[00:19] <Maik> !discuss | linux-fuer-einst
[00:19] <Maik> #kubuntu-offtopic is also an option
 MPT. Sometimes when I plug in my phone it loads up in Cantata music player with the phone music library and I can click an artist or album and send it to the phone. Sometimes I can access the Android files through Dolphin. I can never do both and it is random on which function will work! argh! I mostly sync music but of course I need Dolphin access at times also. How can I have consistent access to Cantata AND Dolphin?
[05:07] <Guest99291> Hello?
 @Anarchotaoist, The issue seems to be Dolphin will not share! If I close out Dolphin and reboot, I can then open Cantata and sync if I do not mount the phone in Dolphin - and vice versa! There is no unmount option. I am sure you could unmount from either Cantata or Dolphin in the terminal and then load the other instead of rebooting but this REALLY should be a lot simpler!
 @Anarchotaoist, I submitted a bug report.
[06:26] <BlackMouse> Greetings everyone
 https://live.fosdem.org/watch/kfosdem
[08:25] <alessandro_> ciaooo
[08:44] <rainer> Hallo
 Hey
[11:41] <Nobun> I have a problem in kubuntu 20.04. I see a strange icon in the application bar, near to the icon of the application that notifies you have updates
[11:42] <Nobun> It is a terminal-like icon with an esclamation mark and if I put the mouse near it says java. That is quite strange and it seems a malicious thing
[11:42] <Nobun> I'd like to know how to remove it
 @Nobun, provide a screenshot link please
[11:42] <Nobun> IrcsomeBot: sure... wait a moment
[11:44] <Nobun> I am making two shots.... one with normal screenshot and one with phone. I need a bit of time to upload them and I provide links
[11:48] <Nobun> first shot: https://imgur.com/a/QgsBiLw
[11:49] <Nobun> the icon is that one with esclamation mark in the notify bar near to update icon (hour of time etc)... I will upload the phone shot to show that "java" thing (since it is a notify can't be shotted with standard screenshot)
 @Nobun, yes I saw
[11:51] <Nobun> https://imgur.com/a/hPs4414
[11:52] <Nobun> this is where it says "Java, eseguibile" "eseguibile" is an italian word to say "executable"
[11:52] <Nobun> sorry for the bad photo but the notify couldn't be taken with standard screenshot
 @Nobun, is it persistent ?
[11:53] <Nobun> Yeah. I tried to shutdown and re-enter kubuntu and it is still there
[11:53] <Nobun> I noticed tomorrow so it should be a recent thing
[11:53] <Nobun> today *
[11:53] <Nobun> sorry
 @Nobun, what were you doing or something else before this started appearing in your tray.
[12:00] <Nobun> Don't remember because today I noticed this icon as soon as I launched the system. The only thing I can think of is some bad things (a worm, trojan or something similar) comed somehow from the net. But can't figure an actual reason why it happened
[12:04] <Nobun> not sure if it helps but usually I am used to use Firefox and not Chrome, even if Firefox is less suggested in recent days
[12:04] <Nobun> I use chrome only in sites where chrome is actually suggested (like if you need to use google services like meet or you need to join a microsoft teams link)
[12:05] <Nobun> but for standard researches or reading I use Firefox
 @Nobun, yes, I also can't find any answer/solution to your prob 😅🤔
[12:07] <Nobun> IrcsomeBot: I figure it can be solved through KDE but don't know exactly how to access (since I am pretty new on KDE I was used to Ubuntu unity) apptrays. Probably there is a directory where there is a sort of applauncher I can simply remove
[12:16] <Nobun> currently I am trying to profile all *.desktop files in my system and see if there is something strange with "find / -name *.desktop > file.txt"
[12:16] <Nobun> since all the things in trailers should be desktop file I assume...
 @Nobun, trailers ?
[12:17] <Nobun> application tray sorry xD
 @Nobun, I don't why are you saying desktop file in your last message but the that area is called "System Tray" and it is a widget.
[12:22] <Nobun> IrcsomeBot: as far as I know in system tray resides (like Kde menu) desktop files wich works as launchers of applications
[12:23] <Nobun> now I will try to reboot system. I found a strange thing at: /home/user/.config/autostart/teams.desktop
[12:24] <Nobun> I tried teams but I removed it uninstalling it. And it is strange since I did several time ago. So I don't think it is the issue, but I will try to reboot after removing it
[12:25] <Nobun> IrcsomeBot: obliouvsly if you have a better idea to track the problem I am glad to hear you. For the moment this is the only thing I could think of
[12:25] <Nobun> I will return soon... trying reboot
[12:30] <Nobun> I confirm that doesn't solve anything, but since I had no other idea it worth a try
[12:49] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:10] <rainer> Hi
[13:12] <allon-M> Hi everybody, my name is Emmanuel, I am one of the developper of GCompris and before yesterday I broke my Kubuntu development environment, so for now I can not develop anymore
[13:12] <allon-M> The problem lies with xserver-xorg-legacy
[13:13] <allon-M> it tells me that it can not create regular file XWrapper.config.dpkg-new. I tryed to purge everything I could purge
[13:14] <allon-M> reinstalled kubuntu-desktop, but always bump on this  xserver-xorg-legacy  problem
[13:15] <allon-M> is this canal the place to discuss a solution or should I rather see with xorg forums?
[13:28] <BluesKaj> allon-M, try the #kubuntu-devel chat
[13:29] <allon-M> thanks a lot
[13:29] <BluesKaj> np
 can a root Partition be logical ?
[13:34] <BluesKaj> yes if you're in legacy bios mode then you're restricted to 4 primary partitions
[13:36] <BluesKaj> @ri5h46h, https://askubuntu.com/questions/464402/choosing-partition-types-for-swap-and-root-and-choosing-device-for-bootloader-in
 @BluesKaj, BluesKaj, is it necessary that we need to use mbr disk only with Legacy systems ?  … as I read somewhere that we can create a bios-mbr Partition on a gpt and select that for installating bootloader ?
[13:58] <kmart> hi
[13:58] <kmart> can someone tell me if there is a chance latest amdgpu drivers could work on kubuntu?
[13:59] <kmart> like some drivers _are_ installed already, came with 20.04LTS I guess
[13:59] <kmart> but those drivers dont work with VMWare
[13:59] <kmart> so I either need to downgrade or update
 @kmart, did you try 20.10 ?
[14:09] <kmart> no, but isnt 20.04 supposed to be the stable one
 @kmart, yes, but 20.10 is also stable
[14:10] <kmart> i cant risk damaging this workstation by upgrading to non LTS version
[14:12] <kmart> i'd rather jsut try to downgrade the drivers
[14:12] <BluesKaj> @ri5h46h, https://superuser.com/questions/1245299/if-my-motherboard-does-not-support-uefi-bios-can-i-still-use-gpt-for-non-boot-d
[14:13] <BluesKaj> kmart, amd gpu is supported on kubuntu, justn make sure you use the correct driver by checking in driver manager
[14:19] <Nobun> IrcsomeBot: one of the most important thing is that the /boot partition will be NOT a lxc container, but a real partition (logical or phisical not important)
[14:20] <Nobun> if you plan to use lvm (sorry not lxc I said wrong) it is suggested to have an extra partition for /boot
[14:20] <Nobun> in order to avoid problems with grub or similar boot managers
[14:21] <Nobun> so if you plan to use lvm you can do it, but make sure to save an actual (not-lvm) partition for /boot
[14:21] <kmart> BluesKaj, one would think that a driver "Radeon™ Software for Linux® version 20.20 for Ubuntu 20.04" released in June last year, specifically for the Ubuntu 20.04, which is the counterpart for kubuntu 20.04, would work
[14:21] <kmart> but it does not even install
[14:22] <Nobun> kmart: probably you could need some gtk components? As far as I know the main difference from kubuntu and ubuntu is having KDE instead of Gtk
[14:23] <Nobun> strange that depencies are not tracked in .deb package however
[14:23] <kmart> https://pastebin.com/aVhmx3Tf
 @Nobun, thank you.
 @Nobun, Qt you should say instead of LDE
[14:25] <Nobun> @ri5h46h actually KDE is an extension of Qt so imho is more correct saying KDE
[14:25] <Nobun> or better a derived library
[14:26] <Nobun> so having installed KDE means you have qt installed. But the Gui is KDE
[14:26] <Nobun> while Gtk is both libraries and Gui
 @Nobun, what ? Extension?
[14:26] <Nobun> ri5: yeah I said in improper word
[14:27] <Nobun> but it is like talking about ubuntu vs debian. Ubuntu is devian derived. Kde derives from qt
[14:27] <kmart> https://pastebin.com/LtBQE3Ni
[14:27] <Nobun> Ubuntu is debian derived *
[14:27] <Nobun> but KDE extends Qt with other things that are kde-specific
[14:28] <Nobun> for exmample KImageIO extends QImage
 @Nobun, KDE Plasma is a desktop environment made using the Qt framework
[14:28] <Nobun> esactly that is why I say KDE and not Qt
[14:29] <Nobun> KDE implies having qt but not vice versa
[14:29] <Nobun> kde is a framework that extends qt in a lot of things
 @Nobun, so that way you should say GNOME instead of GTK here
[14:30] <Nobun> ri5: yeah good point.
[14:32] <Nobun> however probably the requirements he can need to Radeon software could be (but it is a speculation) gtk libraries not the entire gnome desktop
[14:33] <Nobun> kmart: are you compling from source?
[14:34] <Nobun> this error is tied to -Werror linker flag which could be omitted (but i would suggest not)
[14:35] <Nobun> probably there is a bug or you are using a different c/c++ standard then expected one?
[14:35] <kmart> i read that recent dkms changes made the drivers incompatible with the system
[14:35] <kmart> so i should update kernel to mainline
[14:35] <kmart> is that safe to do on kubuntu?
[14:36] <kmart> i ahve 5.4.x and it has to be 5.6.x or higher
[14:36] <Nobun> kmart: unfortunately I am not so expert, so wait for a more informed person.
[14:37] <Nobun> I think you could update kernel safetly, but it is an assumption I can't give you gurantees since I don't know how to configure kernel
[14:38] <Nobun> perhaps the most simplier solution is to try to update from Kubuntu LTS to Kubuntu 20.10 that should be released (6 monts releases usually has more recent things)
[14:39] <Nobun> but wait for a person who can help you more. I can't provide you actual help to this particular problem. Sorry
[14:40] <BluesKaj> afaik the latest kernel is 5.8 for 20,04 LTS, https://9to5linux.com/ubuntu-20-04-2-lts-released-with-linux-kernel-5-8-from-ubuntu-20-10-download-now
[14:41] <Nobun> BluesKaj: also my system has kernel 5.4 but my last update was some made some weeks ago
[14:43] <BluesKaj> Nobun, there have been a few problems with 5,8 kernel a while back, but it seems fine now, since I haven't seen any complaints for the last week or so.
[14:45] <Nobun> I simply apt update + apt dist-upgrade... so I let upgrade kernels when the system says so xD
[20:22] <viewer|46> hello
[20:23] <viewer|46> any Kubuntu developers in here now?
[20:26] <viewer|46> I have a question about iso download
[23:21] <mparillo> Getting late on a weekend, but you can simply ask. If anybody knows, you will get an answer, but you may need to hang around.
[23:52] <krytarik> I quite regularly see wasted effort here in trying to help somebody who in this case left already 3 hours ago and 2 minutes after indicating they got a question.. >_<