[12:46] <gaochao> hi
[12:46] <gaochao> hello
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[17:28] <dragon2> how do i eject a cd
[17:29] <dragon2> it is a mac with no eject button, lubuntu 20.10
[17:30] <dragon2> daft question, but still real
[17:30] <ripdisk> dragon2
[17:30] <ripdisk> open up terminal
[17:30] <ripdisk> type eject -t
[17:31] <ripdisk> press enter
[17:32] <dragon2> cd-rom trace close command fail
[17:32] <dragon2> input/output error
[17:33] <dragon2> sorry, tray* typo
[17:33] <kc2bez[m]> try eject -r
[17:34] <dragon2> thanks it worked
[17:34] <kc2bez[m]> Cool
[17:34]  * dragon2 looking suprised 
[17:34] <kc2bez[m]> You can make a shortcut key for that https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/3/3.2/3.2.14/shortcut_keys.html
[19:15] <meway> Hello I'm on lubuntu from a usb drive but it wont let me install it to the HDD
[19:16] <meway> This is the latest install btw.
[19:16] <wxl> did you look at the manual on the subject?
[19:19] <meway> It gets to the end and tells me an error. file "usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/calamares/modules/bootloader/main.py line 486
[19:19] <wxl> ^
[19:20] <meway> Would you be kind and link me to the manual please? lol Its been a long time since I've used any linux distro
[19:20] <wxl> manual.lubuntu.me
[19:32] <meway> yes I followed the manual
[19:35] <wxl> so you checked the hashes of the iso?
[19:35] <wxl> and ensured that the check at the beginning of boot succeeded?
[19:38] <kc2bez[m]> meway:  Also, was this a manual partition install, erase disk, install alongside?
[19:38] <meway> yea so when I type sha256sum lubuntu-20.10-desktop-amd64.iso in the terminal I get no such file or directory
[19:39] <meway> probably because I installed the iso on windows
[19:39] <meway> erase disk
[19:39] <wxl> then we have no way to be sure you actually are using the right installation media
[19:40] <meway> I hate it here.
[19:40] <meway> brb lol
[19:41] <kc2bez[m]> You can check file hashes in powershell on windows https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsoft.powershell.utility/get-filehash?view=powershell-7.1#example-2--compute-the-hash-value-for-an-iso-file
[19:46] <meway> hash starts with an 8 so seems not
[19:46] <wxl> then there you go
[19:46] <wxl> download error
[19:47] <wxl> it's not guaranteed that downloads come through perfectly over http
[19:47] <meway> I've been up for 17 hours and am incredibly frustrated x-x
[19:47] <wxl> use torrent
[19:47] <wxl> try sleeping. that's not in the manual but it's wise
[19:47] <meway> :p
[20:00] <meway> ok so whats the torrent link I never use these things
[20:00] <wxl> assuming "latest" means 20.10…
[20:01] <wxl> all of the links are here https://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/20.10/release/
[20:01] <wxl> you'll notice the fourth one down is the torrent file
[20:01] <meway> ok so the hash doesn't match up no matter what I do?
[20:01] <wxl> well i mean you could keep downloading over http. it should eventually succeed in its entirety
[20:02] <wxl> but since torrent is a block by block thing and it's running hashes on each block, if there's a bad block, it just redownloads it until it checks out
[20:02] <wxl> that said, torrents are guaranteed to work out
[20:03] <meway> dc2969e1986633e6fdd1c1d8566895c6191689d2 is what I get with your link for hash
[20:03] <wxl> uh
[20:03] <wxl> huh?
[20:04] <meway> you know what I'll just download it
[20:04] <meway> not like I've been trying for hours lol
[20:06] <wxl> if you can do the above to ensure you actually have the right software, everything should run smoothly
[20:06] <wxl> if you don't do that, you can run into all sorts of weird, unexpected, hard to explain and extremely difficult to resolve problems
[20:06] <meway> I used the manual, got the torrent from your link, hashes don't add up
[20:07] <wxl> what did you download?
[20:07] <kc2bez[m]> I should point out that the microsoft powershell example I pointed to uses SAH384 you would need to change that to SHA256
[20:07] <meway> lubuntu-20.10-desktop-amd64.iso
[20:08] <wxl> then your sha256 (note it has to be THAT algorithm and not sha1, md5, etc.) should be 1a4586a246498fdb08dcdb6eddc13f7ac621ccfb4206e040d010cf6cae716fb4
[20:08] <meway> I'm using emn178.github.io/online-tools/sha256_checksum.html
[20:08] <meway> yes thats what I got
[20:08] <wxl> then you have the right iso
[20:08] <meway> ok
[20:08] <meway> I'll try install again
[20:08] <meway> brb
[20:09] <wxl> make SURE that the check at the beginning of the installation succeeds
[20:09] <wxl> and then we need to discuss partitioning
[20:09] <meway> ok
[20:09] <wxl> you DO NOT want to do manual partitioning unless you totally know what you're doing
[20:09] <meway> I appreciate the help
[20:10] <wxl> yeppers
[20:10] <meway> so what check?
[20:10] <meway> I didn't see it check anything
[20:10] <meway> booting form usb
[20:10] <meway> from*
[20:11] <kc2bez[m]> It should run when you boot
[20:12] <meway> problem with .509 all I caught
[20:12] <wxl> so it failed
[20:12] <meway> checking md5sums: ect ect ect
[20:13] <meway> that was before these checks
[20:13] <meway> no errors found
[20:14] <wxl> ok so there you go
[20:14] <meway> initframs unpacking failed decoding failed
[20:14] <wxl> ok something's not right here
[20:14] <wxl> i'm suspecting you have a copy error
[20:14] <wxl> meaning that i think that one or more bits on the image that is on the usb doesn't match the iso
[20:14] <kc2bez[m]> Maybe an issue with the USB drive?
[20:14] <wxl> so re-copy it over to the usb
[20:15] <meway> I'll try the new torrent
[20:15] <wxl> otherwise, yeah, could be a hardware issue
[20:15] <wxl> don't re-download!
[20:15] <wxl> you already confirmed you got the download right
[20:15] <meway> right
[20:15] <meway> just going to format the usb and use the confirmed file
[20:15] <wxl> so that leaves only one possibility: something to do with the usb
[20:15] <wxl> yeah that's good
[20:17] <meway> use mbr right?
[20:18] <kc2bez[m]> Erase disk should do that automatically.
[20:18] <wxl> what are you using for this?
[20:18] <meway> I have the iso on a windows machine and using rufus
[20:18] <wxl> i would use etcher personally
[20:18] <wxl> oh man not rufus sighhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[20:18] <meway> link to etcher ? lol
[20:19] <wxl> https://www.balena.io/etcher/
[20:19] <wxl> that said if you want to use rufus the defaults SHOULD be right last i heard
[20:20] <wxl> i've just never heard of people having problems with etcher
[20:21] <kc2bez[m]> It should be in DD mode wherever that is found. There are too many knobs and levers to mis-configure with Rufus.
[20:21] <meway> etcher be attaching itself to reg files and doing thing automagically
[20:23] <meway> trying to install this on a walmart lenovo thinkpad btw
[20:23] <wxl> well that's probably not an issue but i'll just tell you one of my favorite mottos
[20:23] <wxl> linux can do a lot of things, but it can't fix broken XD
[20:26] <meway> Ive zombiefied so many old hand me down pc's with linux lol
[20:27] <meway> maybe zombiefied isn't the word. I've necrod?
[20:27] <wxl> sometimes hand me downs have their own inherient problems
[20:28] <wxl> like i'm sure you could get any number of old powerpc macs with ease and little in the way of cost, but getting them set up sucks
[20:29] <meway> alright so etcher didn't do it in dd mode I think
[20:30] <meway> but it be doing some things a lot quicker
[20:30] <meway> as far as load times on the device
[20:30]  * meway crosses fingers
[20:31] <kc2bez[m]> etcher doesn't have many options. I think it always uses dd mode.
[20:31] <wxl> the one problem you will find in the linux world is few folks bother with windows
[20:31] <meway> so after using etcher I get " Powered by Lubuntu." doesn't move past xD
[20:32] <wxl> i'd probably boot a linux iso on one usb and use it to create the second one over actually using windows and windows tools
[20:32] <kc2bez[m]> press "esc"
[20:32] <meway> and den?
[20:32] <kc2bez[m]> Did it show the text mode?
[20:33] <meway> yes
[20:33] <meway> 16+0 records in 16+0 records out
[20:33] <kc2bez[m]> sounds like it is still working on it.
[20:33] <meway> Initramfs unpacking failed: decoding failed
[20:33] <meway> integrity: problem loading x.509 certificate -65
[20:35] <wxl> well assuming everything we have is valid…
[20:35] <wxl> …we may have a thorny issue on our hands https://askubuntu.com/questions/1269855/usb-installer-initramfs-unpacking-failed-decoding-failed
[20:35] <meway> I rebooted to try again
[20:35] <meway> now its doing the checking
[20:35] <meway> odd hangup
[20:40] <meway> So assuming everything is correct I want to "Erase disk" yes?
[20:40] <wxl> yes
[20:44] <meway> and now I wait for catastrophic failure.
[20:48] <meway> Installation Failed
[20:48] <meway> Boost.Python error in job "bootloader".
[20:49] <meway> Command 'grub-install --target=x86_64-efi--efi-directory=/boot/efi--bootloader-id=ubuntu--force' returned non-zero exit status 1.
[20:54] <meway> I'm guessing I skipped or missed something.
[20:59] <meway> the silence is not good
[21:02] <kc2bez[m]> Sorry was AFK
[21:03] <kc2bez[m]> That is weird. Was there more to the error?
[21:08] <wxl> there should be a log in ~/.cache/Calamares/session.log (if i remember correctly)
[21:09] <kc2bez[m]> It might be a lowercase C in calamares, not sure.
[21:09] <kc2bez[m]> If you find it you can paste it.
[21:10] <kc2bez[m]> !paste | meway
[21:13] <meway> Its not like this is happening in a vm
[21:18] <meway> trying another HDD
[21:21] <meway> nope
[21:21] <meway> fml
[21:22] <meway> I know you guys tried your hardest. I'll be back at it again some time. I'm throwing in the white flag for now.
[21:23] <meway> Thank you.
[21:23] <kc2bez[m]> Ok, come back when you have some time to work on it.
[21:24] <wxl> meway: you can always start a new post with that log on discourse.lubuntu.me, btw
[22:21] <guiverc> 'lxsession-default' that is legacy LXDE & not found in a clean LXQt install isn't it?
[23:35] <kc2bez[m]> It shouldn't be.