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today911hallo there! anyone knows how to set the whole surface of a synaptic touchpad to work the same way (as I can notice it's surface is split to have a left button / right button area and a touch pad area)... the two finger tap should be the right button click, but that only works in the right button area on the touchpad? and the two finger scroll only00:42
today911works above the buttons area on the touchpad... is this normal?00:42
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ruediiHey, I finally got my GPU working.  I had to disable DPM.01:04
sarnoldtoday911: there's a lot of settings you can fiddle with, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput has some notes01:14
nunya__Anyone here?01:16
nunya_just a bunch of lurking?01:21
sarnoldyou've got to stay connected to see conversation :)01:23
nunya_I've got a bunch of processes running all the time. I kill a bunch of them before playing games since I don't have much RAM. Is there a way to keep them from loading in the first place?01:23
sarnoldprobably, it depends upon the processes01:24
today911sarnold: thank you!01:25
today911nunya_: how much of a ram is not much? :)01:26
nunya_<today911>4 GB01:27
dbristowsarnold: So we found a copy of the root cert for that cancelled CA, put in the container, works.01:27
sarnolddbristow: nice01:27
dbristowsarnold: band aid until Apple fixes their shit01:28
nunya_<sarnold> csd-wacom, zeitgeist-datah,csd-printer, evolution-alarm01:30
semitonesis sudo -H still a valid way to start, say, synaptic? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo01:32
sarnoldnunya_: the zeitgeist-datahub .. try deleting /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop and restarting your system, see if it comes back or not01:32
nunya_u<sarnold>update-notifier if there is a way to run that one manually  would be great instead of loading automatically right in the middle of action games making them lag01:32
nunya_<sarnold>update-notifier if there is a way to run that one manually  would be great instead of loading automatically right in the middle of action games making them lag01:33
sarnoldhmm, update-notifier, I don't know how to do that one01:34
nunya_<sarnold> rm - /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop correct?01:34
sarnoldnunya_: it'll require sudo, so sudo rm /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop01:35
nunya_rm /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop correct?01:35
sarnoldyeah01:35
svm_invictvsUbuntu uses resolved right?01:35
sarnoldnunya_: and if this causes trouble for some silly reason, you can put it back with sudo apt install --reinstall zeitgeist-datahub01:35
sarnoldsvm_invictvs: yes01:35
svm_invictvsFor caching right?01:35
svm_invictvsIs there an easy way for me to add another DNS server to Resolved?01:35
sarnoldit's a touch complicated :/ I *think* you should be able to just add it to /etc/resolv.conf but be sure the check the long section in systemd-resolved manpage about the four different ways resolv.conf can be used01:36
svm_invictvsIs there a way for me to just drop a SRV record in there?01:37
sarnoldnone that I know of01:37
svm_invictvsYeah, I was trying to do something like run dnsmasq on a non-standard port then have resolved try to find it there01:38
svm_invictvs*(there01:38
sarnoldyou may be able to set the new address in dhcp options, if you're using dhcp on your network01:39
svm_invictvsOh yeah.01:39
sarnoldthough I don't know if that's address only or also includes port01:39
sarnoldI'm going to guess it's address only01:39
sarnoldbut I'm sometimes wrong :)01:39
svm_invictvsYeah01:40
svm_invictvsI dont' know01:40
nunya_<sarnold>just looked at /etc/xdg/autostart Looks like a lot of the processes I don't want started automatically are there. cinnamon-settings-daemon-wacom.desktop, cinnamon-settings-daemon-print-notifications.desktop (I don't even own a printer) I usually print to pdf file and send via email, cinnamon-settings-daemon-wacom.desktop Safe to rm these too?01:42
sarnoldnunya_: cinnamon may have a settings menu that can fiddle them on and off, but yeah, I'd expect all these to be fine to delete01:42
nunya_<sarnold>Thanks. I guess I can rename them to foo.desktop.bak just to be safe01:44
sarnoldnunya_: oh :D that's simpler than removing them entirely, heh01:45
svm_invictvssarnold, that's a good idea ... thanks ...01:50
svm_invictvssarnold, Just gonna edit my router config.01:50
svm_invictvslong story short I"m developing an application that uses SRV records for discovery so I need a test setup to debug my code ...01:51
svm_invictvsAnd for some reason, the DNS library I'm using doesn't let me specify a non-standard port for testing ><01:51
nunya_<sarnold>Nemo wouldn't let me rename them kept adding desktop to the end after bak I guess it determined file type and assumed I wanted .desktop but sudo mv command is doing it in terminal cinnamon-settings-daemon-print-notifications.desktop.bak for example Thanks agin for pointing me in the right direction!01:53
sarnoldsvm_invictvs: I don't know much about avahi / mdns services -- do those publish SRV records on a dns-ish thing? is your service expecting an mdns service to be running?01:54
svm_invictvssarnold, Long story short, yes.01:55
svm_invictvssarnold, Long story long, it's a webapp that runs in Amazon ECS or in Kubernetes ( have deployment configs for each)01:55
svm_invictvsBoth will basically make SRV records in the environment for you. SO if you have a service defined in your deployment config the system will make SRV records and your app can discover each other via SRV01:56
svm_invictvsIt's just that *outside* the environment it's a bit of a pain in the ass.01:57
svm_invictvsBecuase I gotta reconfigure my network to actually do it.01:57
sarnoldsvm_invictvs: oooof. that sounds like a lot of magic infrastructure. maybe it all works great once it's going..01:59
svm_invictvssarnold, The SRV stuff in both ECS and K8s is awesome. It greatly has simplified a ton of shit.02:01
sarnoldsvm_invictvs: oh! that's nice to hear :)02:02
svm_invictvssarnold, For example, when doing MongoDB replica sets. I can just have the clietns point to a SRV record and I can scale up or scale down my replicas as needed and all the IP addresses of each node are automatically scooped up by the database drivers.02:02
svm_invictvssarnold, But my app, which is basically a big complicated java app that can run a bunch of "worker nodes" ... I need to write the client code to discover all the nodes on the cluster02:02
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ruediisvm_invictvs From what I've seen researching cloud, Your best bet for maintaining worker node connectivity is to have your initialization micro-server track them.  If they are in a slave only arangement and don't require consistency you don't need to be too worried about delays if you have multiple tracking microservers.02:32
ruediiJust mirror over the helper module to the other tracking microservers on heartbeats for better utilization.   If there is not one available when requested from a tracking microserver, spawn one from it.  Quite simple.02:34
svm_invictvsruedii, hm02:34
ruediiThe bigger concern is purging unused helper modules.  Hence you need to wait until the heartbeat has been confirmed to go from scheduled to decommission to kill.02:35
ruediiI should say term, don't use kill unless term fails.02:35
ruediibe clean.02:35
svm_invictvsruedii, When a new SRV record pops up, they do a bit of discovery among themselves.02:36
svm_invictvsruedii, They don't just immediately talk they exchange a few handshakes and do sync each.02:36
ruediiAuto-discovery protocol is a good option for small networks, but it can take longer to initialize on larger clusters.02:37
svm_invictvsYeah02:37
ruediiAlso it has more overhead on larger networks.02:37
ruediiand the overhead can't be integrated into heartbeat.02:37
svm_invictvsruedii, So you're saying have a microservice that is sort of the master controller and it everyting looks there?02:38
ruediiNot so much a master controller.  You can have your master controllers basically spawn more controllers, and hand off to each other.  They all declare their existance to edge which deligates to them.02:38
ruediiEdge handles new sessions, controllers track current sessions, workers handle tasks.02:39
svm_invictvsI'm not sure I follow 100% but I think I get the gist02:40
ruediiThis is a basic stateful cloud service as opposed to the stateless you described.  There are advantages to each.02:40
ruediiYour best bet is to see how various open source cloud solutions handle this stuff, and research from there.02:41
ruediiSometimes a mix is good too, for instance the session worker controller, can be stateful, but it's workers form a stateless cloud around it.02:42
ruediiFor really small hubs a traditional non-cloud server method is better.  However, that has serious extensibility limitations.02:43
ruediiThis can obviously be hybrided with cloud services for the stuff that gets burdened, such as a cloud database but a conventional app server cluster that reads from it.02:44
svm_invictvsruedii, Well the discovery and routing system is swappable. For 90% of the local dev I have a static option where you just feed it the IP addresses of the cluster and it just connects using that.02:44
svm_invictvsruedii, It's actually fairly simple. Each member of the cluster just mainains a table of all the nodes mapped to their various IDs.02:45
ruediiYeah, using the edge server of the cluster like that is ideal.  Don't interface directly with the cloud servlets unless you like chaos the slight improvement of latency is not worth it. Well I'm off if nobody knows about the PPMASK on AMDGPU.   I'm having a pain in the neck with my GPU.  It's working with DPM off.  (Grown, slow.)02:45
svm_invictvsruedii, Do you have an article or something that can better describe the architcture you're discussing?02:45
svm_invictvsruedii, I would need to see a diagram to fully understand it, though02:46
ruediiNot particularly, it's a mishmash of various cloud solution articles.  However, if you read the guides for OpenStack and other cloud solutions it can help.02:46
ruediiOpenStack is nice, and the only really good documentation of cloud theory out there.02:47
ruediiIt is literally the only cloud solution with public documentation that makes sense.    I think most people who use cloud don't understand the concepts.02:48
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ruediiJust remember the basic security, encrypt everything during transit.  Some say everything at edge, but you never know where you are crossing an abstracted edge if you are using a third party data center. If it isn't on the same metal, encrypt.02:51
ruediiTunnels are of course nice ways to encrypt.02:53
ruediidoes anyone know if a bad power supply might cause an SMU crash on DPM initialization?   Also, does anyone know the default PP Mask on AMDGPU Navi14 so I can debug which feature is causing the crash?02:54
ruediiI should say half-bad power supply (i.e. causing downspikes).02:54
svm_invictvsruedii, I'd say a bad PSU probably causes issues ... undervolt conditions and what not02:56
svm_invictvsruedii, And no I don't encrypt except the edge but that's going to change02:56
sarnoldruedii: bad power can cause all kinda of crazy problems. one friend ran stressng on some of his systems and found some ran the malloc() test 30% slower. it took ages to figure out that all the machines with slower malloc() runtimes in stressng had a failed powersupply02:56
ruediiJust tunnel, easy mirricle encrypt.02:56
svm_invictvsWhat I'm using has TLS support, I just have to enable it and configure the certificates.02:57
sarnold(he didn't start with malloc, he managed to find that served as a good proxy for the problem he was *actually* fighting ..)02:57
ruediiYou never know if your cloud bank is across multiple Metal as a Service banks, and your datacenter forgot to tunnel connections leaving them exposed to everyone else using the datacenter.02:57
ruediiAbstracted edges across metal as a server banks can be a major source of hacks.02:58
ruediiAn attacker can hack one server, listen to the abstracted edge traffic raw, and hack any running unencrypted.02:59
ruediiNever count on a third party using common sense and encrypting it's clients connections with different keys.02:59
ruediiNever count on their keys not being compromised either.03:00
svm_invictvsruedii, But AWS has never had security issues!03:03
svm_invictvsruedii, Jeff Bezos said so.03:03
HashHi03:04
HashAnyone arond?03:04
HashI am using Ubuntu 20.04 and chromium browser, and randomly some tabs start displaying fonts like this: https://i.imgur.com/pdh1rYV.png03:05
HashAnyone has idea what is going on?03:05
sarnoldHash: I've got a wild guess, but I don't like it much :)03:06
Hashhttps://i.imgur.com/cKaQCYF.png this tab looks okay03:06
sarnoldHash: the guess, which is perhaps too many levels too deep all at once: (a) you've got chromium installed via the snap (b) the snap has been refreshed (c) the security policy no longer lets chromium get to fonts (d) you *might* have some DENIED entries in your logs if I guessed correctly03:07
HashHmm03:07
HashYes, it's a snap.03:07
HashI updated,03:09
Hashubiquity ubiquity-frontend-kde ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork ubuntu-drivers-common03:09
HashThese got updated03:09
HashThen I reloaded the same tab03:10
Hashhttps://i.imgur.com/C3jtBV8.png03:10
HashNow it seems ok03:10
HashNope, some tabs are still messed up03:11
ruediiHash, do you have webfonts turned off?03:11
ruediiAlso what are your default fonts in Chromium set to?03:11
HashWhat is that?03:11
HashIt's all default03:11
HashEverything is default03:11
ruediiWebfonts are fonts sent by the web server instead of locally installed on your computer.03:12
HashNo03:13
HashIt's all default. So whatever chromium does by default03:13
ruediiMake sure you have the Noto font set installed.  That is usually my completion font set.  Hopefully it's properly accessing the font substitute handler, though.03:13
HashBut why only on some tabs and not on others?03:13
ruediiOnly some tabs have characters not in your character set.03:13
ruediiAdditionally you might have a complete sans font, but not a complete serif font or complete monospace font.03:14
ruediiIt will only substitute so far.03:14
Hashhttps://i.imgur.com/GAf3ScM.png03:14
HashIt does this in chrome settings too03:14
HashSee boxes? Same font displayed, no change03:15
ruediiYep, you are missing some characters.  Do you only have the light versions of DejaVu installed and not the complete.  Also do you have Noto installed?   Noto's extended fonts will fill for most others.03:16
ruediiI recommend against DejaVu it used to be the best, but not anymore.03:16
ruediiHowever, double check that you have all the international and dingbat dejavu fonts installed.03:17
HashIt's not missing characters...03:17
HashYou're failing to understand what'a happening.03:17
ruediiThe boxes are the sign of the missing characters.03:17
ruediiI know fonts.03:17
HashI grant you03:17
HashBut slow down.03:17
ruediiThat symbol is "font glyph missing"03:17
HashEverything is default, so is ubuntu broken?03:18
Hash20.0403:18
HashIt's not missing... man.03:18
HashIt's taking the word 'youtube' in www.youtube.com' and replacing it with th elogo03:18
AnnoyedI'm trying to install a package, "beignet-opencl-icd" in a fresh VM installation of server 20.04.2, but it says it can't find the package. It went in on a 20.04.1 VM no poroblems03:18
HashPlease, look at the screenshot more carefully.03:18
HashThis is for some odd reason, substuting font awesome tags or something03:19
HashAll common words found in Font Awesome, are displaying THEIR icons.03:19
HashIt's not that I'm missing glyphs. That only shows up on the settings page, due to the box you see.03:19
HashI grant you.03:19
HashSlow down and look at the whole issue.03:19
ruediiTry this: http://www.madore.org/~david/misc/unitest/03:19
HashIt will undoubetdly show boxes because it's using the wrong font.03:20
HashSo it is.03:20
HashSame thing in firefox, same machine, same os, ubuntu default firefox package, no problems.03:21
sarnoldAnnoyed: try running: apt-add-repository universe -- then try again03:21
HashNo other issues with font awesome's font substitution in anywhere else in the system03:21
sarnoldHash: same thing in firefox??03:21
HashThis happens only in chromium and what it's doing is replacing words like FB or facebook or youtube with fontawesome icons03:21
sarnoldso much for my guess, heh03:21
HashNo. I literlaly just said NOT the same thing in firefox.03:21
HashNo problems in firefox.03:22
sarnoldah this bit confused me "Same thing in firefox, same machine, same os" :)03:22
HashSame thing loaded in firefox03:22
Hashsorry03:22
HashI don't know English03:22
HashI apologize03:22
sarnoldI didn't make it tot the end of the line, hehe03:22
HashSo the trick is to find out somehow why chromium is doing a font substitution with fontawesome03:23
sarnoldHash: wow, that bit with the logos is insane03:23
HashYup.03:23
HashI can't find ANYONE else on the web wish this issue so far03:23
sarnoldI just thought it was busted fonts missing glpyhs..03:23
HashNo search terms bring upu anything useful03:23
ruediioh you are getting that fontawesome bug too?03:23
HashIt's all the same old, missing glypghs stuff, which this isn't.03:24
HashOh!03:24
HashPlease tell me you know something03:24
HashOMG!03:24
* Hash looks at ruedii03:24
ruediiThat one is nasty.  you probably have the fontawesome web server script installed.  That does that in chrome and chromium which pull those scripts for some insane reason.03:24
ruediiSome versions of firefox too.03:24
Hashthe ubuntu packages?03:24
Hashor how? I don't... I'm not.03:24
HashI'm lost a bit man.03:24
Hash:(03:24
ruediiIt's sometimes installed accidentally, I've done it many times.03:25
Hashdpkg -l|grep font|grep awesome03:25
HashI got nothing03:25
ruediiNubers display as in circles, it substitutes all sorts of stuff with icons that shouldn't be substituted with icons.  you know, ugly nonsense.03:25
ruediiAre you using a proxy?  It might be on the proxy.03:25
HashNope03:25
Hash\o/03:26
HashThis is a mystery of the universe!03:26
Annoyedsarnold: Says universe is already enabled03:26
sarnoldAnnoyed: hm. how about apt policy beignet-opencl-icd ?03:26
sarnoldHash: does chromium have custom css or user css or userscripts or greasemonkey?03:28
HashNope03:29
HashNow I've got no glyphs03:29
HashI did fc-cache to refresh fons03:29
Hashnow everything everywhere in chromium displays boxes.03:29
Annoyedsarnold: Duh. Found my problem. Getting old, can't see shiznit anymore. even with 3x glasses. Had a Typo03:30
sarnoldAnnoyed: same here. sucks. but hey the other day I helped someone spot the different between an apostrophe and a smart quote :)03:31
HashI don't know what happened but chromium is screwed up.03:31
svm_invictvsruedii, I'm also not entirely sure why you're advising I not use SRV fo discovery?03:31
HashI can't read anything anymore03:32
AnnoyedI kept spelling beignet as beigenet03:33
HashWell. Now I can't use chromium.03:37
Hash:(03:37
sarnoldAnnoyed: it's a bit too bad you got it right here on irc, if it had been wrong it would have stood out pretty strong03:38
sarnoldHash: is there anything funny in dmesg or journalctl?03:39
AnnoyedI can copy/paste here. Oracle's VM won't let me03:39
AnnoyedI'm old. I'm use to cheating03:39
Hashwhat would I look for03:39
sarnoldHash: I'm not sure, really. signs of dying hardware..03:41
HashI just made a new pc03:41
Hash64gb ram, 5800x cpu03:42
Hashall the new stuffs03:42
HashI see.03:42
HashSomething stupid is stupid and stpuid and I'm just omg that's just so silly!03:42
sarnoldooo shiny :)03:42
HashI had to kill -9 the pid afer some trouble of chromium03:43
HashFinally I restarted chromium03:43
HashBecause I would close all the windows and try again and no dice03:43
HashSo I did ps auxf and found the starting chrome pid and killed it and now it is fine after a font cache update03:43
HashI removed all the stupid font packages I never would need or use03:43
HashMy world makes sense again.03:45
HashWhew!03:45
HashUbuntu installs too much stuff.03:45
HashToo much. There are like almost 10 quidrillion Noto fonts that are installed. Who is ever going to use that?03:46
AnnoyedOh, well. Scaling the VM display to 120% ought to be helpful. Thanks03:46
HashInstall less stuff by defaul guys.03:46
HashI use like 1-2 fonts, tops. Why thre are like 10 billions of them in my system, I'll never understand.03:47
HashAnd the fonts I use, are not even availble in ubuntu packages.03:47
HashAnyway.03:47
HashI use the Input font, but no package.03:48
HashIt's not free03:48
Hashhttps://input.fontbureau.com/info/03:48
Hashhttps://input.fontbureau.com/license/ it's not any standard license in foss world.03:49
Hashhttps://i.imgur.com/nJHBPeq.png looks like this03:51
Hashhttps://i.imgur.com/1ZmMr3z.png So. I wonder if I should next time install ubuntu minimal.03:51
HashSee this font is nice. Narrow. Tall. I also use -2 on the font spacing in urxvt03:52
HashSo it's even narrower.03:52
sarnoldwow that's narrow :)03:54
HashYessir :D03:54
HashYou can read a lot more this way.03:54
sarnoldax562: any chance you can fix your connection?03:54
sarnoldnot any more, hehe03:54
Hashruedii: sarnold: THANKS for the help03:54
sarnoldHash: I'm glad you got something sorted out :) that would hav edriven me up the wall03:55
sarnoldhave fun with the new machine :)03:55
HashIt's been randomly happening and I was near the cieling like Marry Poppings but not in lauging but in crying03:55
Hashhaha03:55
wolframHello, my router acts as a bridge between someone else's WiFi network and my local Ethernet connection - this setup works and my PC gets an IP from that WiFi network.04:11
wolframHowever, my Ethernet interface (eno1) does not persist changes to the default gateway, I need to reset it each time I reboot.04:12
wolframNaturally, the change is already in /etc/network/interfaces - using Ubuntu 18.04.04:12
wolframI am not sure if I need to set an interface's default gateway in another place as well? Thanks.04:12
leftyfbwolfram: why are you using /etc/network/interfaces on 18.04? You should be using netplan04:13
leftyfbwolfram: that said, why are you setting a gateway separately from the assigned gateway from your router?04:13
wolframleftyfb: I have no idea what you mean by the second question. What is separate from what?04:14
leftyfbwolfram: did you remove netplan and install ifupdown?04:15
wolframleftyfb: As to the first one, I am using what people on the Internet show in examples, I have never heard of netplan.04:15
leftyfbwolfram: was this a fresh install of ubuntu 18.04 or upgraded from a previous version?04:16
wolframleftyfb: I have not installed anything nor have I removed anything.04:16
wolframleftyfb: Fresh install a couple of years ago.04:16
leftyfbwolfram: ok, then you should be using netplan to configure your network, not /etc/network/interfaces04:16
wolframOk, great.04:16
leftyfbwolfram: should your eno1 be set to static or dhcp?04:16
wolframWait, hold on. At this point it is only about setting the default gateway, everything else works, right?04:17
leftyfbwolfram: please answer the question04:17
leftyfbwolfram: are you trying to set your eno1 with a static ip address or one from dhcp?04:17
wolframI am not trying to set my eno1 with a static IP or one from DHCP. I am trying to persist changes that I make to the default gateway.04:19
leftyfbwolfram: what's the point of setting a gateway on an interface if it doesn't have an ip address?04:19
wolframI honestly have no idea what you are talking about, leftyfb04:20
leftyfbwolfram: you're trying to configure network settings for your eno1 interface correct?04:21
wolframNo leftyfb, I am not, please read what I wrote initially.04:21
leftyfbwolfram: ok, lets step back a sec, is this a desktop or server?04:22
wolframOk leftyfb, thanks for your time, I understand that you are trying to help but you are not listening to me. Have a great weekend :)04:23
leftyfb:/04:23
leftyfbis it just me?04:23
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ExcessiveAggrohello hello!  I've started an app (in terminal) and its locked that session, how do i get a new terminal?  no X involved here.. just command lione05:21
ExcessiveAggroput another way - I was SSHed in to a remote machine and ran an interactive app from the command line. That app hung... i ended up starting another SSH session and killing it from that one - is there a better way?05:24
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agvantiboHow to make Ubuntu faster? I'm looking for something exotic and explained, also not very hindering09:51
lotuspsychjeagvantibo: sudo apt install preload haveged bleachbit stacer09:52
lotuspsychjeagvantibo: tweak systemd services and startup applications after09:52
agvantibothanks, lotuspsychje09:53
agvantiboBy exotic I mean that I've applied the general tips of disabling unneeded startup applications, tweaking the cache settings, installing preload, havaged, stacer and impatience09:53
agvantiboAlso haveged on a server can potentially make it less secure09:54
lotuspsychjeagvantibo: pastebin your systemd-analyze && systemd-analyze blame09:55
agvantibohttps://paste.gnome.org/pu0kiv6qg is blame09:58
agvantibohttps://paste.gnome.org/ps5gmsn13 is analyze09:59
lotuspsychjeagvantibo: not too bad, just your userspace a bit10:03
agvantiboyeah10:05
agvantibolotuspsychje, also plymouth behaving strangely, may it be that it is bugging and causing problems10:06
lotuspsychjeagvantibo: yeah there are some related bugs about that plymouth & networkmanager online10:07
lotuspsychjeagvantibo: is this on plain server, desktop, de's or wm's?10:08
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agvantibothis is ubuntu desktop 20.04 vanilla10:09
lotuspsychjeok10:09
lotuspsychjeagvantibo: did you also do this to expand your startup items?; sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop10:09
agvantiboYes10:10
lotuspsychjeagvantibo: you also might wanna try to reverse and when shutdown F1 text, to see if plymouth and network get timeouts aswell10:11
agvantiboon plymouth you can press up and down arrows to toggle systemd messages10:12
agvantiboAnd thanks, I'll try that10:12
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dbuggerHello everyone11:13
EriC^^hello dbugger11:13
dbuggerI have a small issue. I started a new webserver in DigitalOcean, set up the domain and so on. Everything seems to work fine, the site opens in my laptop and phone.. but in my Desktop PC, in Chrome and Firefox, I get a DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN error message. Any idea what could be going on??11:14
dbuggerno idea what is happening11:20
dbuggerSorry, got disconnected, and I didnt see any answer, so maybe I missed it?11:26
summonneri googled that error message and got an answer11:27
dbuggerMe too. I tried changing resolv.conf to use 8.8.8.8 as nameserver, but when i restarted the network manager, the configuration got reverted11:28
summonnerof course11:28
dbugger¯\_(ツ)_/¯11:29
dbuggerNot sure why11:29
dbuggerBut it didnt solve the issue11:30
dbuggerNetworking is not really my strong area11:30
summonnerhttps://core.docs.ubuntu.com/en/stacks/network/network-manager/docs/11:31
dbuggerIm not sure I am capable of navigating that page... I am not really familiar with a ton of concepts for networking..11:32
summonnerthis is the thing with Linux. you have to do a lot of reading and learning11:34
summonnerotherwise you might as well stick with windows or mac. The section you're looking for is "edit connections", where it shows you how to change the DNS resolver11:34
dbuggerYeah, well... I was hoping for someone to give me a hand, without having to learn all linux and networking11:34
summonnerunfortunately you're going to hit this problem with everything you do in Linux11:35
dbuggerWell, usually that problems I have hit have been solved asking more experienced and kind people (usually) for a hand11:35
summonnerone day your graphics will stop working properly. or your sound card, or your mouse and you'll need to dig deep into the bowels of /dev /proc and drivers11:35
dbuggerAnyone else, would know how could I solve this issue?11:39
ruediiYou are changing it in the wrong place. You need to configure it in the network manager, not resolv.conf11:40
ruediiresolv.conf is generated dynamically.  If you would read the manual you would find that out.11:40
dbuggerI dont even know the command for the network manager11:41
ruediiBTW, I don't think you need the full core documentation to get that.  The basic manual would cover that.11:41
ruediiThis is a desktop system, right?11:41
dbuggerYes, correct11:41
ruediiOK, then the network manager is in the GUI.11:41
ruediiIt's not a command.11:41
ruediiI mean, there is a command, but it's inconvenient and only used on servers.11:42
ruediiDo you change your networking on Windows from power shell?  you can, but do you?11:42
dbugger_I got disconnected trying to find it :P11:42
ruediiI use Kubuntu, and I am not quite up to date on the network manager GUI for GNOME.11:43
dbugger_So, it is the configuration of my specific wifi? Or is it a system-wide configuration I am looking for?11:43
ruediiIt's usually specific to your interface.11:43
dbugger_my interface?11:43
dbugger_you mean GNOME?11:44
ruediinetwork device, your wifi device.11:44
ruediiNetwork interface.11:44
dbugger_ahmm11:44
ruediiSorry, jargon.11:44
ruediiIn the context of networking interface refers to either the card of the software simulated multiplexed card.11:44
ruediiIf I meant GNOME, I would say "User Interface."11:45
dbugger_All I can see in the "netword" tab inside my settings is a "network proxy" which is off. A VPN that is not setup. And a "wired unplugged cable"...11:45
dbugger_There doesnt seem to be much here to configure11:45
ruediiit should be listed under your wifi device.11:45
dbugger_My devices are not listed11:45
dbugger_Nowhere that I can see11:46
ruediiunder IPv4 there should be select mode.11:46
summonneri gave dbugger_ the exact page to see the command to make the change11:46
summonnerif dbugger_ doesn't want to read a page of text...11:46
ruediiIf you want to switch to a fixed DNS server, like 8.8.8.8 you need to switch from "automatic" to "Automatic network only"11:46
dbugger_summonner, i told you i dont understand that page11:47
dbugger_I also have no idea where this 8.8.8.8 comes from or what it means11:47
ruediiThen you probably shouldn't be changing your DNS server.11:47
dbugger_I just read it on some Google result, but honestly I have no clue how it works11:47
summonnerdbugger_, and do you see 8.8.8.8 in the page?11:47
dbugger_summonner, I see it, but I do not know what it means or what it is for11:48
ruedii8.8.8.8 is the google caching DNS server.  If your network works fine there is no need to use it.11:48
ruediiI need to get to bed anyway, good night.11:48
summonnerdbugger_, okay let's go back to the first problem you mentioned. the DNS_PROBE_FINSIHED_NX_DOMAIN11:48
summonnerwhen you googled that, what did it explain to you?11:49
dbugger_It did not really "explain" anything. it just gave steps to solve it11:49
dbugger_(which would be more than enough for me, if it worked :P)11:49
summonnerso that message says "you're trying to do to a domain that doesn't exist"11:50
summonneror rather, it exists, but no one has given it an IP address to be found on the Internet11:51
dbugger_But how come my internet works for every single domain, except that one?11:51
summonnerdo you know how you can find a computer on the internet?11:51
dbugger_To buy one?11:52
dbugger_o_O11:52
summonnerif you type this into your browser,   172.217.19.110     what pops up?11:52
dbugger_If it is running a webserver, I guess a web11:53
dbugger_=P11:53
summonnersure. give it a try11:53
dbugger_done11:53
summonnerand what did you get?11:53
dbugger_google11:53
summonnerso what is easier to remember? google.com or 172.217.19.110?11:53
dbugger_Stop it please11:53
dbugger_Now Im getting pissed off11:54
dbugger_If it is too much work to help me, then dont do it11:54
dbugger_But save yourself talking to me like a moron11:54
dbugger_ffs11:54
summonneri'm trying to teach you something11:54
summonnerdo you get annoyed at your school all the time?11:54
dbugger_Depends on what school you send me. If you send me to college, i probably wont. If you send me to primary school, I probably will get annoyed11:55
summonnerright, so here I am, no knowledge of what you know, so I start at the basics11:56
dbugger_Just cut it, ok?11:56
summonnerhold on, just finishing with someone else11:57
dbugger_My nameservers seem to have updated by themselves. Now I can access the domain. Thank God12:00
summonneryou're welcome12:01
MarrHello everyone. Just wanted to check if there's anyone that could help me with this issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1314078/ubuntu-boots-only-with-nomodeset-option-not-booting-otherwise-at-all-gpu-error12:02
dbugger_Not sure for what, but whatever12:02
summonnerdbugger_, you'll go far. I wish you the best12:03
filifunkyhi everyone -- I just downloaded a python version from deadsnakes which supposedly are python versions for ubuntu.  How come after doing a sudo apt-get install python3.3 successfully I don't see it in my usr/bin/???12:25
_pulseaudio_which flavour of ubuntu is most stable for low end laptops ?12:33
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ThinkT510_pulseaudio_: lubuntu is probably the lightest12:39
_pulseaudio_well the latest lubuntu is no more light12:40
MarrIf there's anyone that is looking at the issue i posted, I just tried botting with nomodeset and then was able to switch to terminal. I check, and the videocard is loading driver=radeon - so seems to be correct12:41
Marrstill white screen though...12:41
ThinkT510_pulseaudio_: it is the lightest official full-blown supported ubuntu release. if you want something lighter then you might be better off with a window manager and other complimentary utilities.12:42
MarrI feel like it's almost 100% the issue is caused by the upgrade packages. Just looked at apt logs, and there's lots of libgl upgraded packages:12:43
MarrStart-Date: 2021-02-05  09:14:1812:43
MarrCommandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.116'12:43
MarrUpgrade: language-pack-gnome-en:amd64 (1:20.04+20200709, 1:20.04+20210121), update-manager-core:amd64 (1:20.04.10.1, 1:20.04.10.5), libegl-mesa0:amd64 (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), libfprint-2-2:amd64 (1:1.90.2+tod1-0ubuntu1~20.04.2, 1:1.90.2+tod1-0ubuntu1~20.04.4), libglapi-mesa:amd6412:43
Marr(21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), libglapi-mesa:i386 (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), update-manager:amd64 (1:20.04.10.1, 1:20.04.10.5), google-chrome-stable:amd64 (88.0.4324.96-1, 88.0.4324.150-1), docker-ce-rootless-extras:amd64 (5:20.10.2~3-0~ubuntu-focal,12:43
Marr5:20.10.3~3-0~ubuntu-focal), python-apt-common:amd64 (2.0.0ubuntu0.20.04.3, 2.0.0ubuntu0.20.04.4), libxatracker2:amd64 (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), libegl1-mesa:amd64 (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), language-pack-en:amd64 (1:20.04+20200709, 1:20.04+20210121),12:43
_pulseaudio_but is lubuntu as stable as ubunutu ?12:43
ThinkT510!paste | Marr12:43
ubottuMarr: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use https://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use https://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:43
ThinkT510_pulseaudio_: yes12:44
_pulseaudio_are liveboots slower that actual installs ?12:45
Marrright, sorry about the flood. Here's the pasted form: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pqRKQbKqxb/12:45
ThinkT510_pulseaudio_: depending on the medium they usually tend to be, yes12:45
ThinkT510_pulseaudio_: loading from a cd/dvd would probably be slower than loading from usb12:46
_pulseaudio_well i use usb 2.0 for the liveboots12:46
ThinkT510_pulseaudio_: and loading from a usb is slower than loading from harddisk (which is slower then loading from ssd (which is slower than loading from RAM))12:47
_pulseaudio_currently running ubuntu completely from a usb 2.0 device12:47
BluesKajhowdy all12:49
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summonnerBluesKaj, https://www.nohello.com/13:41
LordCyrusquestion: Can I have two paralell while loops running in one shell?13:46
LordCyrusor do I have to use crontab?13:46
filifunkyhi everyone -- I just downloaded a python version from deadsnakes ppa which supposedly are python versions for ubuntu.  How come after doing a sudo apt-get install python3.3 successfully I don't see it in my usr/bin/???14:12
oerheksreally, python 3.3 ??14:13
filifunkyyeah, unfortunately14:13
filifunkyI have 2.7 and 3.8 and both only kind of work14:13
filifunkywanted to try something in the middle lol14:13
oerheksand on what ubuntu version??14:13
oerheksi am not going to support that old python. just curious14:14
filifunky20.0414:14
oerhekssudo update-alternatives --config python # should give a selector...14:15
oerheksanyway, if you have Focal 20.04, you surely are a troll, there is no python 3.3 for you14:16
oerhekslolz14:16
oerheksbye!14:16
filifunkylol no i'm just an idiot14:16
filifunkyi could only wish i was a troll14:16
filifunkybut that's helpful, i'll try and move up the python tree...but if there's no 3.3 why does my 2.7 work?14:17
oerhekscruft from upgrade.14:18
oerheksfresh install does not get 2.714:18
filifunkyoh I see14:19
oerheksif you want to force the use of python3, install python-is-python314:20
oerheks!info python-is-python314:20
ubottupython-is-python3 (source: what-is-python (4)): symlinks /usr/bin/python to python3. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.2-4 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 10 kB14:20
filifunkyoooh looks like 3.5 works!  you helped me lol  I see it in usr/bin14:20
nunya<oerheks>finally got hexchat running. The answer was waiting for me when I checked my email. Turns out when I created a new password and gave a new email a command was sent to my email address to enter in hexchat to authenticate. I wish there had been a message from irc client to check my email. Whatevs it's done! Have uninstalled xchat and related configs14:25
oerheks!yay | nunya14:26
ubottununya: Glad you made it! :-)14:26
nunya<sarnold> Good thing I only renamed some .desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart When I rebooted it hung at grub successful message. Luckily I could get terminal with Alt+F4 I entered cd /etc/xdg/autostart then mv all .bak renamed back to original.desktop I would recommend renaming things first, then if nothing breaks rm14:32
nunyaThanks to all who helped me yesterday no matter how resistent I was!14:33
mewaywhats "the white paper" its been a min since I've used ubuntu14:34
mewayis that what I want? the os?14:34
mewayok how the hell do I get ubuntu14:35
mewaywithout it asking for all my personal information14:35
mewaythe main reason I use ubuntu14:35
Maikmeway: what exactly do you want now...14:36
mewayI want to download the ubuntu ISO and put that onto a USB stick and install it on a fresh drive.14:37
Maikif you're here to just chat then join -discuss or -offtopic14:37
oerheks!download14:37
ubottuUbuntu installation CDs can be downloaded from http://releases.ubuntu.com - Mirrors can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors - PLEASE use the !torrents to download !Groovy, and help keeping the servers' load low!14:37
oerheks!shipit14:37
ubottuCanonical is no longer sending free Ubuntu CDs to individuals through its ShipIt program.  For more information please see http://blog.canonical.com/?p=551 !LoCo teams can request CDs through this link https://forms.canonical.com/lococd/14:37
Maikmeway: you can download the iso from the download page on the ubuntu website14:37
oerheksoh...14:37
Maiklol oerheks14:38
Maikshipit has been dead for years now14:38
Maikmeway: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop14:39
mewaywhats the differences beteween the version on there?14:39
oerhekstoo much to type; check out the releasnotes?14:39
mewayok to Maik14:39
mewayty *14:39
oerheks!releasenotes14:39
ubottuFor release notes of a given Ubuntu release, please refer to the 'Docs' column on the 'List of releases' table at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases14:39
Maik20.04 is a LTS release support for 5 years from the time it came out, 20.10 is a interim release supported for 9 months meway14:40
mewayok so whats the trick to get it on a usb stick? lol14:40
ThinkT510nunya: well done for persevering14:40
Maikread the docs meway14:40
mewaythe docs link or the one you provided?14:41
oerhekssure you can find the tool to write an iso on usb14:41
Maikmeway: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview14:41
Maikjust try to look a bit further or search the web14:41
Maikthere are so many tutorials and guides out there14:42
Maikmeway: you use windows at the moment?14:42
meway@maik yes, I haven't touched ubuntu in years but my fiances pc with windows just crashed and I can't recover the drive. so I got a new drive and figure ubuntu will serve for now until i get hers.14:43
mewaywindows*14:43
Maiki'd check if the drive is still ok14:44
Maiknvm14:44
Maikanyway, how to creat a live usb stick is in the link i gave14:45
mewayfound it ^_^ thanks for the help.14:45
Maikyw14:46
nunya<meway>If you don't want to give personal information make stuff up. Just put the info you used in an encrypted text file for your own reference later if you need to recall email used, password, etc.. As <Maik>was saying  you can download iso to usb flash drive. Make sure only iso or OS files only thing on it. Might have to go into bios and change boot order to flash drive first Instructions should be on the download page. It's how I14:48
nunyainstalled Ubuntu and configured dual boot Ubuntu and Windows.14:48
ripperhello everybody14:49
Maik!hi | ripper14:49
ripperi wanted to install the nvidia driver on my system but unforunately couldn't do it.in the way of installation14:49
ripperi had to disable/blacklist my nouveau driver14:50
ripperso now i can't reach it and want to get it back to work again14:50
ripperi searched a lot but couldn't find a proper help to do that .Could you please help me?14:51
ripperMaik: hi14:51
nunyaYes I still have Windows. Have stripped it down to almost nothing with no internet access, windows update deactivated, only a couple of programs that I couldn't get WINE to run. So many files in .acd format that I couldn't start over in Fruity Loops or whatever. I'm still hoping for the day when WINE will run Acid or Sony Music Studio Pro.14:52
Maik!discuss | nunya14:53
ubottununya: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!14:53
nunyaOK, the sun's coming up. Going for a sunrise surf in Northern California cold water! Thanks again!14:55
nunya<ubottu>Was thanking some people here for their help and kind of got on a rant sorry. See ya.14:56
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shinobiI installed gnome-chess, but I cannot see an icon for it, nor can I find a terminal command for it. Is this an issue with 20.04?15:05
Maikshinobi: dunno, did you search for bug reports yet?15:07
Maikmaybe log out and back in again15:07
shinobiMaik: I found the issue. I installed gnuchess, not gnome-chess15:07
shinobiI guess I need more coffee15:07
Maikouch15:07
Maikcan happen15:07
shinobiEasy fix at least15:08
LordCyrushow do I make variables persist between crontab executions?15:09
LordCyrusI've read around but not getting much wiser atm... :S15:10
rippernobody knows about my broblem solution?15:13
Maikripper: i guess not15:14
ripperthanks Maik15:14
oerheksripper, one needs to give more info...15:15
oerhekswhat ubuntu version what nvidia driver, what nvidia card....15:15
ripper20.04.215:15
rippernvidia G72 GeForce 7200 GS / 7300 SE15:17
ripperwhen i want to install it , get this error15:18
oerheksoh, that old GPU GeForce 7200 GS is below the specs for Nvidia 340 , minimum is 8800 ?15:19
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oerheksyes, https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/156163/en-us15:20
ripperERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module15:20
ripperi got the exact and proper version of my system15:21
oerheksuse the nouveau driver.15:22
ripperoerheks: yeah too old but need that graphic card to install .i think first i need to build it according to my kernal version15:23
oerheksgood luck, i tell you to use nouveau.15:23
ripperoerheks:by the way i even can not to enable it15:24
ripperin the installation of another driver first you need to disable the nouveau so did i.but now i can not enable the nouveau driver again15:25
ripperso i did *15:26
ripperDo you know a way to enable it again?15:26
ripperaccording to this command  i have it installed on my computer (apt search nouveau)15:29
rippercan't reach ther graphic card by graphical interface because it doesn't load them15:30
ThinkT510ripper: is it in the list of loaded kernel modules?: lsmod15:31
ripperyes it is15:31
ThinkT510then you are using the driver15:31
ripperno wait15:32
rippersorry i didn't use this command before15:32
ThinkT510ripper: lsmod shows you the currently loaded kernel modules15:32
ripperok then Which word i should look for now? in the list of answer of that command?15:33
ThinkT510ripper: the module is called nouveau15:34
rippercould not find it in the list15:35
ripperseems i don't have it running15:35
ThinkT510ripper: then you need to load it: sudo modprobe nouveau15:35
ripperok did. then i need to reboot my system?15:36
ThinkT510just log out and back in15:37
ripperthanks i'm in safe mode of ubuntu now15:37
ThinkT510if you've blacklisted the driver then it wouldn't load the next time you boot15:38
LordCyrushow do I make variables persist between crontab executions?15:38
LordCyrusi.e. how should I declare a variable that persists between executions of crontab command15:38
LordCyrusany ideas?15:38
ripperi've blacklisted the nouveau driver15:40
ripperDo you think if it comes up again?15:41
ThinkT510ripper: then you'll need to remove it from the blacklist15:41
ripperbut how?15:41
ThinkT510ripper: how did you blacklist it?15:41
ripperhttps://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux15:43
ripperby following the commands in that site15:43
ThinkT510ripper: did you first check that your card is supported by any of the nvidia drivers?15:44
ripperyes idid15:45
ThinkT510ripper: which one supports it and which one did you install?15:45
ripperi've found the right version from the original nvidia webpage15:45
ripperunfortunately i couldn't install it but before any installation i've blacklisted the nouveau driver15:46
rippernow i have two problem.first i don't have the nouveau running on my system. and second one is couldn't install nvidia15:47
ThinkT510ripper: what does the following output?: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf15:48
ripperuveau.conf15:48
ripperblacklist nouveau15:48
ripperoptions nouveau modeset=015:48
ThinkT510ripper: you can just simply remove that file and reboot: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf15:49
ripperok i did15:50
ripperback16:06
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ripperi did remove the config file simply by this command sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf and did reboot it but unfortunately the graphical mode didn't start16:07
ripperby this command (cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf)16:09
ripperit says : cat: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf: No such file or directory16:09
Cann0nany solid fix for dummy output?16:10
ThinkT510ripper: it isn't there any more because you removed it16:10
ThinkT510ripper: does nouveau appear in lsmod?16:11
ripperno it doesn't16:12
ThinkT510ripper: sudo modprobe nouveau16:12
ripperi ran that command and then ran lsmod16:15
ripperthe answer is16:15
rippernouveau              1949696  016:15
mewayyea so it failed to install and booted up desktop mode to investigate?16:15
mewayidk whats happening...16:15
ThinkT510ripper: great, now the module is loaded16:16
rippernow the reboot time bbs16:16
mewayubi-partman failed with exit code 10. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. do you want to try running this step again before continuing? if you do not your installation may fail entirely or may be broken...16:17
ripperstill the graphical mode doesn't work16:26
ripperi'm talking to you in recovery mode of my system now16:26
ThinkT510ripper: when you are booting are you using nomodeset?16:27
ShariffHi there16:27
ripperagain by commans lsmod the nouveau doesn't appear in the answer list16:28
ripperThinkT510:don't know16:28
ripperi just run it normally16:29
ripperand wait but the graphical mode doesn't come up16:29
ThinkT510ripper: if you are using nomodeset then you need to unset it. the nouveau driver uses kernel mode setting so using nomodeset would cause it not to work. usually with the nvidia drivers they tell you to use nomodeset to disable kernel mode setting16:30
ThinkT510!nomodeset | ripper16:31
ubotturipper: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there.16:31
ioriaripper, cat /proc/cmdline (you can paste here)16:31
ripperioria:BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-65-generic root=UUID=3e7705a3-c0d1-41ed-a77c-4f37463fcbc7 ro recovery nomodeset dis_ucode_ldr16:34
ioriahere you are16:35
ripperso what should i do?16:35
ioriaripper, cat /etc/default/grub | nc gtermbin.com 999916:35
ioriaripper, cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 999916:36
ripperi have to use both of them?16:36
ThinkT510top one was a typo16:36
ioriaripper, just the 2°, sorry16:36
ripperok16:36
ripperi did16:37
ThinkT510you'll need to paste the link so we can see16:38
ioriaripper, paste the link you got, pls16:38
ripperwhat is that llink?16:38
ioriait's a link16:38
ioriaripper, it's the cmd output16:38
ShariffDOes anyone have an idea what is wrong when I try to use a share on my NAS and I can use it with a windows10 box, but when I use the same credentials on an unbutu system, I get permissions denied for that same user...?16:39
ShariffNAS is a QNAP TS-431P16:39
ripperhttps://termbin.com/nork16:40
ioriaripper, nope; must be something else16:42
ripperjust that link16:42
rippernothing else16:42
ioriaripper, did you try to install nvidia with the .RUN file ?16:42
ripperyes i did16:42
ripperbut i got an error16:42
ioriaripper, what error ?16:43
ripperERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module16:44
ioriaripper, try to remove it : sudo bash NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-XXX.XX.run --uninstall  (or similar)16:45
ripperlet's see16:46
ripperunrecognized option: "--uninstal"16:47
ripperERROR: Invalid commandline, please run `./nvidia-installer --help` for16:48
ripper       usage information.16:48
ioriaripper, see what options you have for unistall16:48
ripperby help?  ./nvidia-installer --hel16:48
ioriaofc16:49
ShariffWhat does it mean to "squash users" for an nfs share?16:49
ripperbash: ./nvidia-installer: No such file or directory16:50
ioriaripper, btw, it's  --uninstall not --uninstal16:51
ioriaripper, double 'l'16:51
ripperworked16:52
ripperit says : There is no NVIDIA driver currently installed16:52
ioriaripper,  ok;  dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | nc termbin.com 999916:52
ripperhttps://termbin.com/9o7j16:53
ioriaripper,  ok;  dpkg -l | grep -i nouveau | nc termbin.com 999916:54
Cann0nif nvidia is giving you a hassle, might consider heading over to system76's Pop_OS. use their driver repo16:54
Cann0njust a thought.16:55
ThinkT510Cann0n: then you'd need to get support from them16:55
Sbur3I am running Ubuntu 20.10. When I try to access "audio" in System Settings, it crashes. Any counsel as to what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it?  Or is this more something to send to the developers?16:55
ripperhttps://termbin.com/9kah16:56
ioriaripper,  grep blacklist /lib/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouv16:57
mewayI'm trying to install not online and see if that makes a difference16:57
Cann0nThinkT510, to use their repo?16:57
ripper/lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau16:58
ThinkT510Cann0n: this channel can only support official ubuntu releases. PopOS is not an official ubuntu release. any issues would need to go to them.16:58
ioriaripper, mv or backup that file16:58
ripperwhich file?16:59
Sbur3"Executable: systemsettings5 PID: 4906 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 2/6/21 5:58:34 PM CET"16:59
ripperit's just an answer16:59
ioriaripper, /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf16:59
Cann0nThinkT510, I was more so suggesting if someone is having trouble with nivida drivers, simply putting their repo on your computer and apt getting them... nvm...16:59
ioriaripper, do you see it ?16:59
ioriaripper, move it somewhere else17:00
ripperno wait17:00
ThinkT510Cann0n: they are free to do that but if anything goes wrong using PopOS repos then it is a PopOS issue so we are unable to support it here17:00
ripper need to go to that directory first17:00
iorianope17:00
ripperthen what?17:01
ioriaripper, ls /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf17:01
ThinkT510ripper: you already have the full path to the file17:01
ioriaripper, e.g.   sudo mv  /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf  /home/$USER17:02
ripperby this command (ls /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf)  i see two files17:02
iorianope, you just see one17:02
ripperok i did17:03
ioriaripper, are we sure of that ?17:03
ripperand now i have it in my /home directory17:03
ioriaok17:03
ioriaripper,  now:   grep blacklist /lib/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nvidia17:04
ripperdid17:04
ioriaand ?17:04
rippernothing17:04
ioriaok17:04
ioriaripper,  now:   grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouveau17:05
rippershows a new command to write in17:05
ioriaripper,  now:   grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouveau17:05
ripperboth?17:05
ioriajust one17:05
ripperthe last one?17:05
ioriayes17:05
ripperyeah both are the same :)17:06
ioriayep, and ?17:06
ripper/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau17:06
ripper/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau17:06
ioriaripper,  you need to move also those files in your home; is it clear ?17:07
ripperyes17:07
ioriado it17:07
ripperwait a bit please17:08
ThinkT510ripper: make sure you are moving them and not just copying them. you don't want them staying in /etc/modprobe.d/17:08
ioriathat's a good advice ? ripper17:08
ripperso i need to use mv command?17:08
ioriayes17:08
ripperDo i need to use this(/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau) in my command or just use (/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf)17:11
ioriaripper, sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf  /home/$USER17:11
ioriaripper, then,  sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf /home/$USER17:12
ripperok wait to move both of them17:12
ripperdone17:14
ioriaripper,  then check again :   grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouveau17:14
ioriashould be empty17:14
ripperwait17:15
ripperbefore that17:15
ripperi move a conf file to my home directory17:15
ripperand then move two file again to that directory17:15
ripperfiles*17:15
ioriayes17:16
ripperbut now i have just two files there17:16
ioriaone is the same17:16
iorianvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf17:16
ripperyeah same  .but now you told me to back it up there17:16
ioriaripper, and ?17:17
ripperand now ithink it was resaved there17:17
ioriaand ?17:17
ioriait'a a copy17:17
ripperok it's ok if you say :)17:17
ioriaripper, that's not your problem17:17
ioriayour problem is a borked (not supported) nvidia install17:18
ripperok let's run this command grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouveau17:18
ripperyes17:18
rippernothing happened17:18
ioriaripper,    grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nvidia17:19
ripper/etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf:blacklist nvidiafb17:19
ioriaripper, that's ok; what's your release , focal  20.04 ? cat /etc/issue17:20
ripperUbuntu 20.04.2 LTS17:21
ioriaripper, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade17:22
ripperupgrade to 20.10?17:22
iorianope17:22
ripperdone17:23
iorianothing running ?17:23
rippernothing17:23
ripperjust updated17:23
pytorchcan anyone help me with installing lustre on ubuntu?17:24
ioriaripper, what's your kernel ?  uname -r17:24
ripper0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded17:24
LiveWireWhen I build my own kernel, then just do a make install. dkms kicks in and builds a few packages ive installed, but not nvidia. I cant find where this setting might be17:24
ripper5.4.0-65-generic17:25
ripper(it's because i'm using the recovery mode)17:25
ioriaripper, meaning ?17:25
ioriaripper,  ls /boot | nc termbin.com 999917:25
ripperi think it's not the right number of my kernel version17:25
ioriait should17:26
ioria!info linux-generic focal17:26
ubottulinux-generic (source: linux-meta): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.4.0.65.68 (focal), package size 1 kB, installed size 18 kB (Only available for riscv64)17:26
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ripperhttps://termbin.com/g6xq17:27
ioriaripper, it's ok;  sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic17:27
aienadoes anyone know if we can remove audio latency on a KVM host17:28
ripperdone17:28
aienaerr kvm guest17:28
ripper0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.17:28
ioriaripper, sudo update-initramfs -u -k all17:28
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ripperdone17:32
ioriaripper, reboot17:32
ioriaafk17:33
ripperok bbs17:33
ThinkT510!cookie | ioria17:35
ubottuioria: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!17:35
ripperioria:Thank you very much ioria17:39
ripperworks fine17:39
ripperThinkT510:Thank you very much ThinkT51017:40
ThinkT510ripper: well done17:40
ioriaripper, you're welcome17:43
ioriaThinkT510, tx17:43
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mewayyea so I cant seem to get ubuntu to install from a thumb drive18:22
mewayWould this issue here cause this ^18:22
mewayhttps://askubuntu.com/questions/1241795/xdg-runtime-dir-is-not-owned-by-us-uid-018:22
swear000hi19:42
codeguruhello19:45
gurdehi, i updated to 20.04.02 on a pi4, and at boot i get failed to load '//uboot/ubuntu/boot.sel', any ideas why?19:50
TwilighttonyWhat packages does Ubuntu use to get the apple trackpad 2 usb trackpad working? I am trying to get another distro going and the drivers seem to be missing19:50
oerheksapple trackpad 2 usb ? they all are BlueTooth, i got mine trackpad1 working fine19:52
Twilighttonyoerheks, I use mine with the lightning connector connected directly to my computer's usb port19:52
oerheksoh oke, i am reading about that now19:55
oerheksseems to be in the kernel since 4.20 ?19:56
gurdeany ideas about the boot error?19:57
gurdewhat does the '//uboot/ubuntu/boot.sel' file do?20:03
pavlosgurde: are you booting from an sd or an ssd ?20:08
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gurdefrom an sd card20:13
gurdeit boots, but i get that error at boot20:13
gurdepavlos :)20:14
gurdepavlos is it because i'm booting from an sd card?20:24
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pavlosgurde: no, I keep reading articles, there may be an issue that the kernel is not in the /boot partition but I dont have a pi4 to verify20:41
pavlosgurde: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=27085420:41
gurdeI don't have that issues, my pi boots20:48
gurdethe issues is with 20.04.02, and that was released recently20:48
gurdei also opened a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot/+bug/191487820:50
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1914878 in u-boot (Ubuntu) "At boot on Pi4 with 20.04.02 i get: Failed to load '//uboot/ubuntu/boot.sel'" [Undecided,New]20:50
Maikdid you use 20.04.1 before and  reflash it with 20.04.2?20:50
gurdei updated20:51
Maiki'm running ubuntu 20.04 server on a Pi 4 completely up to date and didn't have any issues20:51
gurdecheck your boot messages20:52
gurdehttps://photos.app.goo.gl/EHZYnMwLUgpwDqEx620:54
gurdesee video20:54
gurdei just flashed a fresh img onto another sd card, same error20:57
javi404any idea? Errors were encountered while processing:20:59
javi404 linux-image-unsigned-5.10.13-051013-generic20:59
javi404using this guide: https://sypalo.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu20:59
javi404also, i figured out my gpu problems, It was the bios settings.20:59
oerheksmaybe you need a signed kernel for uefi?20:59
javi404some bug, who cares, won't change settings again.20:59
javi404old hardware oerheks21:00
javi40410 years old21:00
oerheksold hardware,,,,, why a mainline kernel?21:00
oerheksthose are for testing, and unsupported21:00
oerheks!mainline21:00
ubottuThe kernel team supply continuous mainline kernel builds which can be useful for tracking down issues or testing recent changes in the Linux kernel. More information is available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds21:00
oerheksuse the 5.4 or 5.8 kernel21:01
javi404oerheks: I guess I can revert, but why not make 5.10 work?21:01
javi404it boots ok21:01
javi404just wondering about thoes errors21:01
semitonesWould `sudo -H synaptic` be equivalent to opening synaptic through the gui?21:11
oerheksyes, depending on the policy, this may be the default behavior21:13
semitonesI ask this question because sometimes I can't find where the shortcut is, and it would be easier to invoke synaptic or other programs from the gui21:14
semitonesbut I can never remember the safe way to do that21:14
Maikjavi404: as said before that kernel isn't supported here and thus not a Ubuntu support question, maybe you have better luck in ##linux or a kernel related channel.21:18
javi404Maik: the kernel is from kernel.ubuntu.org21:19
Maikas oerheks said it's for testing not supported here21:19
oerheksoh, not even from mainline?21:19
javi404it's mainline stable21:20
Maikask the ubuntu kernel devs21:20
javi404for testing i know, and it works fine, i think there is a bug in the headers .deb21:20
javi404Maik: where can I find them?21:20
javi404https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.10.13/amd64/ is where the files are if anyone is interested21:20
Maikjavi404: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList21:21
javi404thanks21:21
Maikyw21:21
trupsalmshello room, i'm looking for a little help as to why i'm getting this error: curl --doh-url https://dns-server.example.com https://www.example.com21:35
trupsalmscurl: (6) Couldn't resolve host name21:35
trupsalmsi can ping all day, google yahoo abc cbs etc21:36
trupsalmsi'm using ubuntu 20.0421:37
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summonnerhttps://serverfault.com/questions/903478/couldnt-resolve-host-name-could-not-resolve-host-in-zabbix22:00
[n3p]Is there a Ubuntu desktop friendly to low resolution LCD (1366x768)?  Devs must be using 4K displays and destroy pixels and space with a lot of crap and non-sense22:11
Maiknag nag nag... and you know there are many other desktop flavors ;)22:14
[n3p]That is what i'm asking. If somebody knows a good alternative22:15
[n3p]Unity used to be the most sensible desktop for WXGA. It's incredible that LXQt, Xfce waste so many pixels in nonsense22:16
krytarikDefine "nonsense"22:18
Maik[n3p]: then use ubuntu unity, we just released 20.04.2. Not a official flavor yet but we're working on that.22:18
Maikalso this debate belongs in either offtopic or maybe better -discuss22:19
[n3p]nonsense = waste of space without a reason22:19
Maik!discuss22:19
ubottuWant to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!22:19
[n3p]But Unity is dead!! You kill it.22:20
Maikclown elsewhere22:21
[n3p]arrogant22:22
[n3p]better close this channel if you don't want to help users. You are damaging the image of a company/project smartasses22:25
derpadminis it considered bad to take the irc #ubuntu log history and post it on my site?22:29
derpadminthey are public...22:29
Maikwrong channel to ask in imho22:29
derpadminjust trying to make some cheap DIY SEO22:29
derpadminMaik how so?22:30
Maikit's not a ubuntu related support question22:30
Maikask in #ubuntu-irc22:30
derpadminack22:30
zealshamsay i have a list of subdomains like23:09
zealsham```23:09
zealshamdev.paypal.com23:09
zealshamsvc-beta.paypal.com23:09
zealshamtes.dev1.paypal.com23:09
zealshamstage.qt.paypal.com23:09
zealshamhttps://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SkQXjXZNsk/ here is a paste of everything23:11
foxidezealsham: In general, you won't, because not all TLDs are one blob. '.co.uk' is a TLD, for example.23:13
foxideTo give a sense for the problem, if you try to match a domain name, you wind up using regexes, and this: ^(([a-zA-Z]{1})|([a-zA-Z]{1}[a-zA-Z]{1})|([a-zA-Z]{1}[0-9]{1})|([0-9]{1}[a-zA-Z]{1})|([a-zA-Z0-9][a-zA-Z0-9-_]{1,61}[a-zA-Z0-9]))\.([a-zA-Z]{2,}|[a-zA-Z0-9-]{2,30}\.[a-zA-Z]{2,3})$23:15
semitonesMaybe it would be better to start with a list of all the allowed top level domains in the world and go from there23:25
nunyaAny way to have my Windows partition automatically mounted when I login to Ubuntu instead of having to open it through Nemo?23:28
leftyfbzealsham: awk -F. '{print $(NF-2)"."$(NF-1)"."$NF}' <path-to-file>23:29
zealshamletfyfb , checking that out23:29
leftyfbnunya: https://csetutorials.com/auto-mount-ntfs-partitions-startup-ubuntu-linux.html23:30
nunya<leftyfb> Thanks I'll check it out. Probably would slow down my already 2 minute boot time. Maybe I won't automount it but good to have the link for reference.23:32
zealshamthank you leftyfb23:33
leftyfbzealsham: I think there's a bash substitution you can do as well but I don't know it off the top of my head. You might try asking in #bash23:34

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