[00:42] <today911> hallo there! anyone knows how to set the whole surface of a synaptic touchpad to work the same way (as I can notice it's surface is split to have a left button / right button area and a touch pad area)... the two finger tap should be the right button click, but that only works in the right button area on the touchpad? and the two finger scroll only
[00:42] <today911> works above the buttons area on the touchpad... is this normal?
[01:04] <ruedii> Hey, I finally got my GPU working.  I had to disable DPM.
[01:14] <sarnold> today911: there's a lot of settings you can fiddle with, https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Libinput has some notes
[01:16] <nunya__> Anyone here?
[01:21] <nunya_> just a bunch of lurking?
[01:23] <sarnold> you've got to stay connected to see conversation :)
[01:23] <nunya_> I've got a bunch of processes running all the time. I kill a bunch of them before playing games since I don't have much RAM. Is there a way to keep them from loading in the first place?
[01:24] <sarnold> probably, it depends upon the processes
[01:25] <today911> sarnold: thank you!
[01:26] <today911> nunya_: how much of a ram is not much? :)
4 GB
[01:27] <dbristow> sarnold: So we found a copy of the root cert for that cancelled CA, put in the container, works.
[01:27] <sarnold> dbristow: nice
[01:28] <dbristow> sarnold: band aid until Apple fixes their shit
 csd-wacom, zeitgeist-datah,csd-printer, evolution-alarm
[01:32] <semitones> is sudo -H still a valid way to start, say, synaptic? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[01:32] <sarnold> nunya_: the zeitgeist-datahub .. try deleting /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop and restarting your system, see if it comes back or not
[01:32] <nunya_> u<sarnold>update-notifier if there is a way to run that one manually  would be great instead of loading automatically right in the middle of action games making them lag
update-notifier if there is a way to run that one manually  would be great instead of loading automatically right in the middle of action games making them lag
[01:34] <sarnold> hmm, update-notifier, I don't know how to do that one
 rm - /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop correct?
[01:35] <sarnold> nunya_: it'll require sudo, so sudo rm /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop
[01:35] <nunya_> rm /etc/xdg/autostart/zeitgeist-datahub.desktop correct?
[01:35] <sarnold> yeah
[01:35] <svm_invictvs> Ubuntu uses resolved right?
[01:35] <sarnold> nunya_: and if this causes trouble for some silly reason, you can put it back with sudo apt install --reinstall zeitgeist-datahub
[01:35] <sarnold> svm_invictvs: yes
[01:35] <svm_invictvs> For caching right?
[01:35] <svm_invictvs> Is there an easy way for me to add another DNS server to Resolved?
[01:36] <sarnold> it's a touch complicated :/ I *think* you should be able to just add it to /etc/resolv.conf but be sure the check the long section in systemd-resolved manpage about the four different ways resolv.conf can be used
[01:37] <svm_invictvs> Is there a way for me to just drop a SRV record in there?
[01:37] <sarnold> none that I know of
[01:38] <svm_invictvs> Yeah, I was trying to do something like run dnsmasq on a non-standard port then have resolved try to find it there
[01:38] <svm_invictvs> *(there
[01:39] <sarnold> you may be able to set the new address in dhcp options, if you're using dhcp on your network
[01:39] <svm_invictvs> Oh yeah.
[01:39] <sarnold> though I don't know if that's address only or also includes port
[01:39] <sarnold> I'm going to guess it's address only
[01:39] <sarnold> but I'm sometimes wrong :)
[01:40] <svm_invictvs> Yeah
[01:40] <svm_invictvs> I dont' know
just looked at /etc/xdg/autostart Looks like a lot of the processes I don't want started automatically are there. cinnamon-settings-daemon-wacom.desktop, cinnamon-settings-daemon-print-notifications.desktop (I don't even own a printer) I usually print to pdf file and send via email, cinnamon-settings-daemon-wacom.desktop Safe to rm these too?
[01:42] <sarnold> nunya_: cinnamon may have a settings menu that can fiddle them on and off, but yeah, I'd expect all these to be fine to delete
Thanks. I guess I can rename them to foo.desktop.bak just to be safe
[01:45] <sarnold> nunya_: oh :D that's simpler than removing them entirely, heh
[01:50] <svm_invictvs> sarnold, that's a good idea ... thanks ...
[01:50] <svm_invictvs> sarnold, Just gonna edit my router config.
[01:51] <svm_invictvs> long story short I"m developing an application that uses SRV records for discovery so I need a test setup to debug my code ...
[01:51] <svm_invictvs> And for some reason, the DNS library I'm using doesn't let me specify a non-standard port for testing ><
Nemo wouldn't let me rename them kept adding desktop to the end after bak I guess it determined file type and assumed I wanted .desktop but sudo mv command is doing it in terminal cinnamon-settings-daemon-print-notifications.desktop.bak for example Thanks agin for pointing me in the right direction!
[01:54] <sarnold> svm_invictvs: I don't know much about avahi / mdns services -- do those publish SRV records on a dns-ish thing? is your service expecting an mdns service to be running?
[01:55] <svm_invictvs> sarnold, Long story short, yes.
[01:55] <svm_invictvs> sarnold, Long story long, it's a webapp that runs in Amazon ECS or in Kubernetes ( have deployment configs for each)
[01:56] <svm_invictvs> Both will basically make SRV records in the environment for you. SO if you have a service defined in your deployment config the system will make SRV records and your app can discover each other via SRV
[01:57] <svm_invictvs> It's just that *outside* the environment it's a bit of a pain in the ass.
[01:57] <svm_invictvs> Becuase I gotta reconfigure my network to actually do it.
[01:59] <sarnold> svm_invictvs: oooof. that sounds like a lot of magic infrastructure. maybe it all works great once it's going..
[02:01] <svm_invictvs> sarnold, The SRV stuff in both ECS and K8s is awesome. It greatly has simplified a ton of shit.
[02:02] <sarnold> svm_invictvs: oh! that's nice to hear :)
[02:02] <svm_invictvs> sarnold, For example, when doing MongoDB replica sets. I can just have the clietns point to a SRV record and I can scale up or scale down my replicas as needed and all the IP addresses of each node are automatically scooped up by the database drivers.
[02:02] <svm_invictvs> sarnold, But my app, which is basically a big complicated java app that can run a bunch of "worker nodes" ... I need to write the client code to discover all the nodes on the cluster
[02:32] <ruedii> svm_invictvs From what I've seen researching cloud, Your best bet for maintaining worker node connectivity is to have your initialization micro-server track them.  If they are in a slave only arangement and don't require consistency you don't need to be too worried about delays if you have multiple tracking microservers.
[02:34] <ruedii> Just mirror over the helper module to the other tracking microservers on heartbeats for better utilization.   If there is not one available when requested from a tracking microserver, spawn one from it.  Quite simple.
[02:34] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, hm
[02:35] <ruedii> The bigger concern is purging unused helper modules.  Hence you need to wait until the heartbeat has been confirmed to go from scheduled to decommission to kill.
[02:35] <ruedii> I should say term, don't use kill unless term fails.
[02:35] <ruedii> be clean.
[02:36] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, When a new SRV record pops up, they do a bit of discovery among themselves.
[02:36] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, They don't just immediately talk they exchange a few handshakes and do sync each.
[02:37] <ruedii> Auto-discovery protocol is a good option for small networks, but it can take longer to initialize on larger clusters.
[02:37] <svm_invictvs> Yeah
[02:37] <ruedii> Also it has more overhead on larger networks.
[02:37] <ruedii> and the overhead can't be integrated into heartbeat.
[02:38] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, So you're saying have a microservice that is sort of the master controller and it everyting looks there?
[02:38] <ruedii> Not so much a master controller.  You can have your master controllers basically spawn more controllers, and hand off to each other.  They all declare their existance to edge which deligates to them.
[02:39] <ruedii> Edge handles new sessions, controllers track current sessions, workers handle tasks.
[02:40] <svm_invictvs> I'm not sure I follow 100% but I think I get the gist
[02:40] <ruedii> This is a basic stateful cloud service as opposed to the stateless you described.  There are advantages to each.
[02:41] <ruedii> Your best bet is to see how various open source cloud solutions handle this stuff, and research from there.
[02:42] <ruedii> Sometimes a mix is good too, for instance the session worker controller, can be stateful, but it's workers form a stateless cloud around it.
[02:43] <ruedii> For really small hubs a traditional non-cloud server method is better.  However, that has serious extensibility limitations.
[02:44] <ruedii> This can obviously be hybrided with cloud services for the stuff that gets burdened, such as a cloud database but a conventional app server cluster that reads from it.
[02:44] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, Well the discovery and routing system is swappable. For 90% of the local dev I have a static option where you just feed it the IP addresses of the cluster and it just connects using that.
[02:45] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, It's actually fairly simple. Each member of the cluster just mainains a table of all the nodes mapped to their various IDs.
[02:45] <ruedii> Yeah, using the edge server of the cluster like that is ideal.  Don't interface directly with the cloud servlets unless you like chaos the slight improvement of latency is not worth it. Well I'm off if nobody knows about the PPMASK on AMDGPU.   I'm having a pain in the neck with my GPU.  It's working with DPM off.  (Grown, slow.)
[02:45] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, Do you have an article or something that can better describe the architcture you're discussing?
[02:46] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, I would need to see a diagram to fully understand it, though
[02:46] <ruedii> Not particularly, it's a mishmash of various cloud solution articles.  However, if you read the guides for OpenStack and other cloud solutions it can help.
[02:47] <ruedii> OpenStack is nice, and the only really good documentation of cloud theory out there.
[02:48] <ruedii> It is literally the only cloud solution with public documentation that makes sense.    I think most people who use cloud don't understand the concepts.
[02:51] <ruedii> Just remember the basic security, encrypt everything during transit.  Some say everything at edge, but you never know where you are crossing an abstracted edge if you are using a third party data center. If it isn't on the same metal, encrypt.
[02:53] <ruedii> Tunnels are of course nice ways to encrypt.
[02:54] <ruedii> does anyone know if a bad power supply might cause an SMU crash on DPM initialization?   Also, does anyone know the default PP Mask on AMDGPU Navi14 so I can debug which feature is causing the crash?
[02:54] <ruedii> I should say half-bad power supply (i.e. causing downspikes).
[02:56] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, I'd say a bad PSU probably causes issues ... undervolt conditions and what not
[02:56] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, And no I don't encrypt except the edge but that's going to change
[02:56] <sarnold> ruedii: bad power can cause all kinda of crazy problems. one friend ran stressng on some of his systems and found some ran the malloc() test 30% slower. it took ages to figure out that all the machines with slower malloc() runtimes in stressng had a failed powersupply
[02:56] <ruedii> Just tunnel, easy mirricle encrypt.
[02:57] <svm_invictvs> What I'm using has TLS support, I just have to enable it and configure the certificates.
[02:57] <sarnold> (he didn't start with malloc, he managed to find that served as a good proxy for the problem he was *actually* fighting ..)
[02:57] <ruedii> You never know if your cloud bank is across multiple Metal as a Service banks, and your datacenter forgot to tunnel connections leaving them exposed to everyone else using the datacenter.
[02:58] <ruedii> Abstracted edges across metal as a server banks can be a major source of hacks.
[02:59] <ruedii> An attacker can hack one server, listen to the abstracted edge traffic raw, and hack any running unencrypted.
[02:59] <ruedii> Never count on a third party using common sense and encrypting it's clients connections with different keys.
[03:00] <ruedii> Never count on their keys not being compromised either.
[03:03] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, But AWS has never had security issues!
[03:03] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, Jeff Bezos said so.
[03:04] <Hash> Hi
[03:04] <Hash> Anyone arond?
[03:05] <Hash> I am using Ubuntu 20.04 and chromium browser, and randomly some tabs start displaying fonts like this: https://i.imgur.com/pdh1rYV.png
[03:05] <Hash> Anyone has idea what is going on?
[03:06] <sarnold> Hash: I've got a wild guess, but I don't like it much :)
[03:06] <Hash> https://i.imgur.com/cKaQCYF.png this tab looks okay
[03:07] <sarnold> Hash: the guess, which is perhaps too many levels too deep all at once: (a) you've got chromium installed via the snap (b) the snap has been refreshed (c) the security policy no longer lets chromium get to fonts (d) you *might* have some DENIED entries in your logs if I guessed correctly
[03:07] <Hash> Hmm
[03:07] <Hash> Yes, it's a snap.
[03:09] <Hash> I updated,
[03:09] <Hash> ubiquity ubiquity-frontend-kde ubiquity-ubuntu-artwork ubuntu-drivers-common
[03:09] <Hash> These got updated
[03:10] <Hash> Then I reloaded the same tab
[03:10] <Hash> https://i.imgur.com/C3jtBV8.png
[03:10] <Hash> Now it seems ok
[03:11] <Hash> Nope, some tabs are still messed up
[03:11] <ruedii> Hash, do you have webfonts turned off?
[03:11] <ruedii> Also what are your default fonts in Chromium set to?
[03:11] <Hash> What is that?
[03:11] <Hash> It's all default
[03:11] <Hash> Everything is default
[03:12] <ruedii> Webfonts are fonts sent by the web server instead of locally installed on your computer.
[03:13] <Hash> No
[03:13] <Hash> It's all default. So whatever chromium does by default
[03:13] <ruedii> Make sure you have the Noto font set installed.  That is usually my completion font set.  Hopefully it's properly accessing the font substitute handler, though.
[03:13] <Hash> But why only on some tabs and not on others?
[03:13] <ruedii> Only some tabs have characters not in your character set.
[03:14] <ruedii> Additionally you might have a complete sans font, but not a complete serif font or complete monospace font.
[03:14] <ruedii> It will only substitute so far.
[03:14] <Hash> https://i.imgur.com/GAf3ScM.png
[03:14] <Hash> It does this in chrome settings too
[03:15] <Hash> See boxes? Same font displayed, no change
[03:16] <ruedii> Yep, you are missing some characters.  Do you only have the light versions of DejaVu installed and not the complete.  Also do you have Noto installed?   Noto's extended fonts will fill for most others.
[03:16] <ruedii> I recommend against DejaVu it used to be the best, but not anymore.
[03:17] <ruedii> However, double check that you have all the international and dingbat dejavu fonts installed.
[03:17] <Hash> It's not missing characters...
[03:17] <Hash> You're failing to understand what'a happening.
[03:17] <ruedii> The boxes are the sign of the missing characters.
[03:17] <ruedii> I know fonts.
[03:17] <Hash> I grant you
[03:17] <Hash> But slow down.
[03:17] <ruedii> That symbol is "font glyph missing"
[03:18] <Hash> Everything is default, so is ubuntu broken?
[03:18] <Hash> 20.04
[03:18] <Hash> It's not missing... man.
[03:18] <Hash> It's taking the word 'youtube' in www.youtube.com' and replacing it with th elogo
[03:18] <Annoyed> I'm trying to install a package, "beignet-opencl-icd" in a fresh VM installation of server 20.04.2, but it says it can't find the package. It went in on a 20.04.1 VM no poroblems
[03:18] <Hash> Please, look at the screenshot more carefully.
[03:19] <Hash> This is for some odd reason, substuting font awesome tags or something
[03:19] <Hash> All common words found in Font Awesome, are displaying THEIR icons.
[03:19] <Hash> It's not that I'm missing glyphs. That only shows up on the settings page, due to the box you see.
[03:19] <Hash> I grant you.
[03:19] <Hash> Slow down and look at the whole issue.
[03:19] <ruedii> Try this: http://www.madore.org/~david/misc/unitest/
[03:20] <Hash> It will undoubetdly show boxes because it's using the wrong font.
[03:20] <Hash> So it is.
[03:21] <Hash> Same thing in firefox, same machine, same os, ubuntu default firefox package, no problems.
[03:21] <sarnold> Annoyed: try running: apt-add-repository universe -- then try again
[03:21] <Hash> No other issues with font awesome's font substitution in anywhere else in the system
[03:21] <sarnold> Hash: same thing in firefox??
[03:21] <Hash> This happens only in chromium and what it's doing is replacing words like FB or facebook or youtube with fontawesome icons
[03:21] <sarnold> so much for my guess, heh
[03:21] <Hash> No. I literlaly just said NOT the same thing in firefox.
[03:22] <Hash> No problems in firefox.
[03:22] <sarnold> ah this bit confused me "Same thing in firefox, same machine, same os" :)
[03:22] <Hash> Same thing loaded in firefox
[03:22] <Hash> sorry
[03:22] <Hash> I don't know English
[03:22] <Hash> I apologize
[03:22] <sarnold> I didn't make it tot the end of the line, hehe
[03:23] <Hash> So the trick is to find out somehow why chromium is doing a font substitution with fontawesome
[03:23] <sarnold> Hash: wow, that bit with the logos is insane
[03:23] <Hash> Yup.
[03:23] <Hash> I can't find ANYONE else on the web wish this issue so far
[03:23] <sarnold> I just thought it was busted fonts missing glpyhs..
[03:23] <Hash> No search terms bring upu anything useful
[03:23] <ruedii> oh you are getting that fontawesome bug too?
[03:24] <Hash> It's all the same old, missing glypghs stuff, which this isn't.
[03:24] <Hash> Oh!
[03:24] <Hash> Please tell me you know something
[03:24] <Hash> OMG!
[03:24]  * Hash looks at ruedii
[03:24] <ruedii> That one is nasty.  you probably have the fontawesome web server script installed.  That does that in chrome and chromium which pull those scripts for some insane reason.
[03:24] <ruedii> Some versions of firefox too.
[03:24] <Hash> the ubuntu packages?
[03:24] <Hash> or how? I don't... I'm not.
[03:24] <Hash> I'm lost a bit man.
[03:24] <Hash> :(
[03:25] <ruedii> It's sometimes installed accidentally, I've done it many times.
[03:25] <Hash> dpkg -l|grep font|grep awesome
[03:25] <Hash> I got nothing
[03:25] <ruedii> Nubers display as in circles, it substitutes all sorts of stuff with icons that shouldn't be substituted with icons.  you know, ugly nonsense.
[03:25] <ruedii> Are you using a proxy?  It might be on the proxy.
[03:25] <Hash> Nope
[03:26] <Hash> \o/
[03:26] <Hash> This is a mystery of the universe!
[03:26] <Annoyed> sarnold: Says universe is already enabled
[03:26] <sarnold> Annoyed: hm. how about apt policy beignet-opencl-icd ?
[03:28] <sarnold> Hash: does chromium have custom css or user css or userscripts or greasemonkey?
[03:29] <Hash> Nope
[03:29] <Hash> Now I've got no glyphs
[03:29] <Hash> I did fc-cache to refresh fons
[03:29] <Hash> now everything everywhere in chromium displays boxes.
[03:30] <Annoyed> sarnold: Duh. Found my problem. Getting old, can't see shiznit anymore. even with 3x glasses. Had a Typo
[03:31] <sarnold> Annoyed: same here. sucks. but hey the other day I helped someone spot the different between an apostrophe and a smart quote :)
[03:31] <Hash> I don't know what happened but chromium is screwed up.
[03:31] <svm_invictvs> ruedii, I'm also not entirely sure why you're advising I not use SRV fo discovery?
[03:32] <Hash> I can't read anything anymore
[03:33] <Annoyed> I kept spelling beignet as beigenet
[03:37] <Hash> Well. Now I can't use chromium.
[03:37] <Hash> :(
[03:38] <sarnold> Annoyed: it's a bit too bad you got it right here on irc, if it had been wrong it would have stood out pretty strong
[03:39] <sarnold> Hash: is there anything funny in dmesg or journalctl?
[03:39] <Annoyed> I can copy/paste here. Oracle's VM won't let me
[03:39] <Annoyed> I'm old. I'm use to cheating
[03:39] <Hash> what would I look for
[03:41] <sarnold> Hash: I'm not sure, really. signs of dying hardware..
[03:41] <Hash> I just made a new pc
[03:42] <Hash> 64gb ram, 5800x cpu
[03:42] <Hash> all the new stuffs
[03:42] <Hash> I see.
[03:42] <Hash> Something stupid is stupid and stpuid and I'm just omg that's just so silly!
[03:42] <sarnold> ooo shiny :)
[03:43] <Hash> I had to kill -9 the pid afer some trouble of chromium
[03:43] <Hash> Finally I restarted chromium
[03:43] <Hash> Because I would close all the windows and try again and no dice
[03:43] <Hash> So I did ps auxf and found the starting chrome pid and killed it and now it is fine after a font cache update
[03:43] <Hash> I removed all the stupid font packages I never would need or use
[03:45] <Hash> My world makes sense again.
[03:45] <Hash> Whew!
[03:45] <Hash> Ubuntu installs too much stuff.
[03:46] <Hash> Too much. There are like almost 10 quidrillion Noto fonts that are installed. Who is ever going to use that?
[03:46] <Annoyed> Oh, well. Scaling the VM display to 120% ought to be helpful. Thanks
[03:46] <Hash> Install less stuff by defaul guys.
[03:47] <Hash> I use like 1-2 fonts, tops. Why thre are like 10 billions of them in my system, I'll never understand.
[03:47] <Hash> And the fonts I use, are not even availble in ubuntu packages.
[03:47] <Hash> Anyway.
[03:48] <Hash> I use the Input font, but no package.
[03:48] <Hash> It's not free
[03:48] <Hash> https://input.fontbureau.com/info/
[03:49] <Hash> https://input.fontbureau.com/license/ it's not any standard license in foss world.
[03:51] <Hash> https://i.imgur.com/nJHBPeq.png looks like this
[03:51] <Hash> https://i.imgur.com/1ZmMr3z.png So. I wonder if I should next time install ubuntu minimal.
[03:52] <Hash> See this font is nice. Narrow. Tall. I also use -2 on the font spacing in urxvt
[03:52] <Hash> So it's even narrower.
[03:54] <sarnold> wow that's narrow :)
[03:54] <Hash> Yessir :D
[03:54] <Hash> You can read a lot more this way.
[03:54] <sarnold> ax562: any chance you can fix your connection?
[03:54] <sarnold> not any more, hehe
[03:54] <Hash> ruedii: sarnold: THANKS for the help
[03:55] <sarnold> Hash: I'm glad you got something sorted out :) that would hav edriven me up the wall
[03:55] <sarnold> have fun with the new machine :)
[03:55] <Hash> It's been randomly happening and I was near the cieling like Marry Poppings but not in lauging but in crying
[03:55] <Hash> haha
[04:11] <wolfram> Hello, my router acts as a bridge between someone else's WiFi network and my local Ethernet connection - this setup works and my PC gets an IP from that WiFi network.
[04:12] <wolfram> However, my Ethernet interface (eno1) does not persist changes to the default gateway, I need to reset it each time I reboot.
[04:12] <wolfram> Naturally, the change is already in /etc/network/interfaces - using Ubuntu 18.04.
[04:12] <wolfram> I am not sure if I need to set an interface's default gateway in another place as well? Thanks.
[04:13] <leftyfb> wolfram: why are you using /etc/network/interfaces on 18.04? You should be using netplan
[04:13] <leftyfb> wolfram: that said, why are you setting a gateway separately from the assigned gateway from your router?
[04:14] <wolfram> leftyfb: I have no idea what you mean by the second question. What is separate from what?
[04:15] <leftyfb> wolfram: did you remove netplan and install ifupdown?
[04:15] <wolfram> leftyfb: As to the first one, I am using what people on the Internet show in examples, I have never heard of netplan.
[04:16] <leftyfb> wolfram: was this a fresh install of ubuntu 18.04 or upgraded from a previous version?
[04:16] <wolfram> leftyfb: I have not installed anything nor have I removed anything.
[04:16] <wolfram> leftyfb: Fresh install a couple of years ago.
[04:16] <leftyfb> wolfram: ok, then you should be using netplan to configure your network, not /etc/network/interfaces
[04:16] <wolfram> Ok, great.
[04:16] <leftyfb> wolfram: should your eno1 be set to static or dhcp?
[04:17] <wolfram> Wait, hold on. At this point it is only about setting the default gateway, everything else works, right?
[04:17] <leftyfb> wolfram: please answer the question
[04:17] <leftyfb> wolfram: are you trying to set your eno1 with a static ip address or one from dhcp?
[04:19] <wolfram> I am not trying to set my eno1 with a static IP or one from DHCP. I am trying to persist changes that I make to the default gateway.
[04:19] <leftyfb> wolfram: what's the point of setting a gateway on an interface if it doesn't have an ip address?
[04:20] <wolfram> I honestly have no idea what you are talking about, leftyfb
[04:21] <leftyfb> wolfram: you're trying to configure network settings for your eno1 interface correct?
[04:21] <wolfram> No leftyfb, I am not, please read what I wrote initially.
[04:22] <leftyfb> wolfram: ok, lets step back a sec, is this a desktop or server?
[04:23] <wolfram> Ok leftyfb, thanks for your time, I understand that you are trying to help but you are not listening to me. Have a great weekend :)
[04:23] <leftyfb> :/
[04:23] <leftyfb> is it just me?
[05:21] <ExcessiveAggro> hello hello!  I've started an app (in terminal) and its locked that session, how do i get a new terminal?  no X involved here.. just command lione
[05:24] <ExcessiveAggro> put another way - I was SSHed in to a remote machine and ran an interactive app from the command line. That app hung... i ended up starting another SSH session and killing it from that one - is there a better way?
[09:51] <agvantibo> How to make Ubuntu faster? I'm looking for something exotic and explained, also not very hindering
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> agvantibo: sudo apt install preload haveged bleachbit stacer
[09:52] <lotuspsychje> agvantibo: tweak systemd services and startup applications after
[09:53] <agvantibo> thanks, lotuspsychje
[09:53] <agvantibo> By exotic I mean that I've applied the general tips of disabling unneeded startup applications, tweaking the cache settings, installing preload, havaged, stacer and impatience
[09:54] <agvantibo> Also haveged on a server can potentially make it less secure
[09:55] <lotuspsychje> agvantibo: pastebin your systemd-analyze && systemd-analyze blame
[09:58] <agvantibo> https://paste.gnome.org/pu0kiv6qg is blame
[09:59] <agvantibo> https://paste.gnome.org/ps5gmsn13 is analyze
[10:03] <lotuspsychje> agvantibo: not too bad, just your userspace a bit
[10:05] <agvantibo> yeah
[10:06] <agvantibo> lotuspsychje, also plymouth behaving strangely, may it be that it is bugging and causing problems
[10:07] <lotuspsychje> agvantibo: yeah there are some related bugs about that plymouth & networkmanager online
[10:08] <lotuspsychje> agvantibo: is this on plain server, desktop, de's or wm's?
[10:09] <agvantibo> this is ubuntu desktop 20.04 vanilla
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> ok
[10:09] <lotuspsychje> agvantibo: did you also do this to expand your startup items?; sudo sed -i "s/NoDisplay=true/NoDisplay=false/g" /etc/xdg/autostart/*.desktop
[10:10] <agvantibo> Yes
[10:11] <lotuspsychje> agvantibo: you also might wanna try to reverse and when shutdown F1 text, to see if plymouth and network get timeouts aswell
[10:12] <agvantibo> on plymouth you can press up and down arrows to toggle systemd messages
[10:12] <agvantibo> And thanks, I'll try that
[11:13] <dbugger> Hello everyone
[11:13] <EriC^^> hello dbugger
[11:14] <dbugger> I have a small issue. I started a new webserver in DigitalOcean, set up the domain and so on. Everything seems to work fine, the site opens in my laptop and phone.. but in my Desktop PC, in Chrome and Firefox, I get a DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN error message. Any idea what could be going on??
[11:20] <dbugger> no idea what is happening
[11:26] <dbugger> Sorry, got disconnected, and I didnt see any answer, so maybe I missed it?
[11:27] <summonner> i googled that error message and got an answer
[11:28] <dbugger> Me too. I tried changing resolv.conf to use 8.8.8.8 as nameserver, but when i restarted the network manager, the configuration got reverted
[11:28] <summonner> of course
[11:29] <dbugger> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
[11:29] <dbugger> Not sure why
[11:30] <dbugger> But it didnt solve the issue
[11:30] <dbugger> Networking is not really my strong area
[11:31] <summonner> https://core.docs.ubuntu.com/en/stacks/network/network-manager/docs/
[11:32] <dbugger> Im not sure I am capable of navigating that page... I am not really familiar with a ton of concepts for networking..
[11:34] <summonner> this is the thing with Linux. you have to do a lot of reading and learning
[11:34] <summonner> otherwise you might as well stick with windows or mac. The section you're looking for is "edit connections", where it shows you how to change the DNS resolver
[11:34] <dbugger> Yeah, well... I was hoping for someone to give me a hand, without having to learn all linux and networking
[11:35] <summonner> unfortunately you're going to hit this problem with everything you do in Linux
[11:35] <dbugger> Well, usually that problems I have hit have been solved asking more experienced and kind people (usually) for a hand
[11:35] <summonner> one day your graphics will stop working properly. or your sound card, or your mouse and you'll need to dig deep into the bowels of /dev /proc and drivers
[11:39] <dbugger> Anyone else, would know how could I solve this issue?
[11:40] <ruedii> You are changing it in the wrong place. You need to configure it in the network manager, not resolv.conf
[11:40] <ruedii> resolv.conf is generated dynamically.  If you would read the manual you would find that out.
[11:41] <dbugger> I dont even know the command for the network manager
[11:41] <ruedii> BTW, I don't think you need the full core documentation to get that.  The basic manual would cover that.
[11:41] <ruedii> This is a desktop system, right?
[11:41] <dbugger> Yes, correct
[11:41] <ruedii> OK, then the network manager is in the GUI.
[11:41] <ruedii> It's not a command.
[11:42] <ruedii> I mean, there is a command, but it's inconvenient and only used on servers.
[11:42] <ruedii> Do you change your networking on Windows from power shell?  you can, but do you?
[11:42] <dbugger_> I got disconnected trying to find it :P
[11:43] <ruedii> I use Kubuntu, and I am not quite up to date on the network manager GUI for GNOME.
[11:43] <dbugger_> So, it is the configuration of my specific wifi? Or is it a system-wide configuration I am looking for?
[11:43] <ruedii> It's usually specific to your interface.
[11:43] <dbugger_> my interface?
[11:44] <dbugger_> you mean GNOME?
[11:44] <ruedii> network device, your wifi device.
[11:44] <ruedii> Network interface.
[11:44] <dbugger_> ahmm
[11:44] <ruedii> Sorry, jargon.
[11:44] <ruedii> In the context of networking interface refers to either the card of the software simulated multiplexed card.
[11:45] <ruedii> If I meant GNOME, I would say "User Interface."
[11:45] <dbugger_> All I can see in the "netword" tab inside my settings is a "network proxy" which is off. A VPN that is not setup. And a "wired unplugged cable"...
[11:45] <dbugger_> There doesnt seem to be much here to configure
[11:45] <ruedii> it should be listed under your wifi device.
[11:45] <dbugger_> My devices are not listed
[11:46] <dbugger_> Nowhere that I can see
[11:46] <ruedii> under IPv4 there should be select mode.
[11:46] <summonner> i gave dbugger_ the exact page to see the command to make the change
[11:46] <summonner> if dbugger_ doesn't want to read a page of text...
[11:46] <ruedii> If you want to switch to a fixed DNS server, like 8.8.8.8 you need to switch from "automatic" to "Automatic network only"
[11:47] <dbugger_> summonner, i told you i dont understand that page
[11:47] <dbugger_> I also have no idea where this 8.8.8.8 comes from or what it means
[11:47] <ruedii> Then you probably shouldn't be changing your DNS server.
[11:47] <dbugger_> I just read it on some Google result, but honestly I have no clue how it works
[11:47] <summonner> dbugger_, and do you see 8.8.8.8 in the page?
[11:48] <dbugger_> summonner, I see it, but I do not know what it means or what it is for
[11:48] <ruedii> 8.8.8.8 is the google caching DNS server.  If your network works fine there is no need to use it.
[11:48] <ruedii> I need to get to bed anyway, good night.
[11:48] <summonner> dbugger_, okay let's go back to the first problem you mentioned. the DNS_PROBE_FINSIHED_NX_DOMAIN
[11:49] <summonner> when you googled that, what did it explain to you?
[11:49] <dbugger_> It did not really "explain" anything. it just gave steps to solve it
[11:49] <dbugger_> (which would be more than enough for me, if it worked :P)
[11:50] <summonner> so that message says "you're trying to do to a domain that doesn't exist"
[11:51] <summonner> or rather, it exists, but no one has given it an IP address to be found on the Internet
[11:51] <dbugger_> But how come my internet works for every single domain, except that one?
[11:51] <summonner> do you know how you can find a computer on the internet?
[11:52] <dbugger_> To buy one?
[11:52] <dbugger_> o_O
[11:52] <summonner> if you type this into your browser,   172.217.19.110     what pops up?
[11:53] <dbugger_> If it is running a webserver, I guess a web
[11:53] <dbugger_> =P
[11:53] <summonner> sure. give it a try
[11:53] <dbugger_> done
[11:53] <summonner> and what did you get?
[11:53] <dbugger_> google
[11:53] <summonner> so what is easier to remember? google.com or 172.217.19.110?
[11:53] <dbugger_> Stop it please
[11:54] <dbugger_> Now Im getting pissed off
[11:54] <dbugger_> If it is too much work to help me, then dont do it
[11:54] <dbugger_> But save yourself talking to me like a moron
[11:54] <dbugger_> ffs
[11:54] <summonner> i'm trying to teach you something
[11:54] <summonner> do you get annoyed at your school all the time?
[11:55] <dbugger_> Depends on what school you send me. If you send me to college, i probably wont. If you send me to primary school, I probably will get annoyed
[11:56] <summonner> right, so here I am, no knowledge of what you know, so I start at the basics
[11:56] <dbugger_> Just cut it, ok?
[11:57] <summonner> hold on, just finishing with someone else
[12:00] <dbugger_> My nameservers seem to have updated by themselves. Now I can access the domain. Thank God
[12:01] <summonner> you're welcome
[12:02] <Marr> Hello everyone. Just wanted to check if there's anyone that could help me with this issue: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1314078/ubuntu-boots-only-with-nomodeset-option-not-booting-otherwise-at-all-gpu-error
[12:02] <dbugger_> Not sure for what, but whatever
[12:03] <summonner> dbugger_, you'll go far. I wish you the best
[12:25] <filifunky> hi everyone -- I just downloaded a python version from deadsnakes which supposedly are python versions for ubuntu.  How come after doing a sudo apt-get install python3.3 successfully I don't see it in my usr/bin/???
[12:33] <_pulseaudio_> which flavour of ubuntu is most stable for low end laptops ?
[12:39] <ThinkT510> _pulseaudio_: lubuntu is probably the lightest
[12:40] <_pulseaudio_> well the latest lubuntu is no more light
[12:41] <Marr> If there's anyone that is looking at the issue i posted, I just tried botting with nomodeset and then was able to switch to terminal. I check, and the videocard is loading driver=radeon - so seems to be correct
[12:41] <Marr> still white screen though...
[12:42] <ThinkT510> _pulseaudio_: it is the lightest official full-blown supported ubuntu release. if you want something lighter then you might be better off with a window manager and other complimentary utilities.
[12:43] <Marr> I feel like it's almost 100% the issue is caused by the upgrade packages. Just looked at apt logs, and there's lots of libgl upgraded packages:
[12:43] <Marr> Start-Date: 2021-02-05  09:14:18
[12:43] <Marr> Commandline: aptdaemon role='role-commit-packages' sender=':1.116'
[12:43] <Marr> Upgrade: language-pack-gnome-en:amd64 (1:20.04+20200709, 1:20.04+20210121), update-manager-core:amd64 (1:20.04.10.1, 1:20.04.10.5), libegl-mesa0:amd64 (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), libfprint-2-2:amd64 (1:1.90.2+tod1-0ubuntu1~20.04.2, 1:1.90.2+tod1-0ubuntu1~20.04.4), libglapi-mesa:amd64
[12:43] <Marr> (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), libglapi-mesa:i386 (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), update-manager:amd64 (1:20.04.10.1, 1:20.04.10.5), google-chrome-stable:amd64 (88.0.4324.96-1, 88.0.4324.150-1), docker-ce-rootless-extras:amd64 (5:20.10.2~3-0~ubuntu-focal,
[12:43] <Marr> 5:20.10.3~3-0~ubuntu-focal), python-apt-common:amd64 (2.0.0ubuntu0.20.04.3, 2.0.0ubuntu0.20.04.4), libxatracker2:amd64 (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), libegl1-mesa:amd64 (21.1~git2101280600.0f1a8f~oibaf~f, 21.1~git2102050600.465465~oibaf~f), language-pack-en:amd64 (1:20.04+20200709, 1:20.04+20210121),
[12:43] <_pulseaudio_> but is lubuntu as stable as ubunutu ?
[12:43] <ThinkT510> !paste | Marr
[12:44] <ThinkT510> _pulseaudio_: yes
[12:45] <_pulseaudio_> are liveboots slower that actual installs ?
[12:45] <Marr> right, sorry about the flood. Here's the pasted form: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/pqRKQbKqxb/
[12:45] <ThinkT510> _pulseaudio_: depending on the medium they usually tend to be, yes
[12:46] <ThinkT510> _pulseaudio_: loading from a cd/dvd would probably be slower than loading from usb
[12:46] <_pulseaudio_> well i use usb 2.0 for the liveboots
[12:47] <ThinkT510> _pulseaudio_: and loading from a usb is slower than loading from harddisk (which is slower then loading from ssd (which is slower than loading from RAM))
[12:47] <_pulseaudio_> currently running ubuntu completely from a usb 2.0 device
[12:49] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[13:41] <summonner> BluesKaj, https://www.nohello.com/
[13:46] <LordCyrus> question: Can I have two paralell while loops running in one shell?
[13:46] <LordCyrus> or do I have to use crontab?
[14:12] <filifunky> hi everyone -- I just downloaded a python version from deadsnakes ppa which supposedly are python versions for ubuntu.  How come after doing a sudo apt-get install python3.3 successfully I don't see it in my usr/bin/???
[14:13] <oerheks> really, python 3.3 ??
[14:13] <filifunky> yeah, unfortunately
[14:13] <filifunky> I have 2.7 and 3.8 and both only kind of work
[14:13] <filifunky> wanted to try something in the middle lol
[14:13] <oerheks> and on what ubuntu version??
[14:14] <oerheks> i am not going to support that old python. just curious
[14:14] <filifunky> 20.04
[14:15] <oerheks> sudo update-alternatives --config python # should give a selector...
[14:16] <oerheks> anyway, if you have Focal 20.04, you surely are a troll, there is no python 3.3 for you
[14:16] <oerheks> lolz
[14:16] <oerheks> bye!
[14:16] <filifunky> lol no i'm just an idiot
[14:16] <filifunky> i could only wish i was a troll
[14:17] <filifunky> but that's helpful, i'll try and move up the python tree...but if there's no 3.3 why does my 2.7 work?
[14:18] <oerheks> cruft from upgrade.
[14:18] <oerheks> fresh install does not get 2.7
[14:19] <filifunky> oh I see
[14:20] <oerheks> if you want to force the use of python3, install python-is-python3
[14:20] <oerheks> !info python-is-python3
[14:20] <filifunky> oooh looks like 3.5 works!  you helped me lol  I see it in usr/bin
finally got hexchat running. The answer was waiting for me when I checked my email. Turns out when I created a new password and gave a new email a command was sent to my email address to enter in hexchat to authenticate. I wish there had been a message from irc client to check my email. Whatevs it's done! Have uninstalled xchat and related configs
[14:26] <oerheks> !yay | nunya
 Good thing I only renamed some .desktop files in /etc/xdg/autostart When I rebooted it hung at grub successful message. Luckily I could get terminal with Alt+F4 I entered cd /etc/xdg/autostart then mv all .bak renamed back to original.desktop I would recommend renaming things first, then if nothing breaks rm
[14:33] <nunya> Thanks to all who helped me yesterday no matter how resistent I was!
[14:34] <meway> whats "the white paper" its been a min since I've used ubuntu
[14:34] <meway> is that what I want? the os?
[14:35] <meway> ok how the hell do I get ubuntu
[14:35] <meway> without it asking for all my personal information
[14:35] <meway> the main reason I use ubuntu
[14:36] <Maik> meway: what exactly do you want now...
[14:37] <meway> I want to download the ubuntu ISO and put that onto a USB stick and install it on a fresh drive.
[14:37] <Maik> if you're here to just chat then join -discuss or -offtopic
[14:37] <oerheks> !download
[14:37] <oerheks> !shipit
[14:37] <Maik> meway: you can download the iso from the download page on the ubuntu website
[14:37] <oerheks> oh...
[14:38] <Maik> lol oerheks
[14:38] <Maik> shipit has been dead for years now
[14:39] <Maik> meway: https://ubuntu.com/download/desktop
[14:39] <meway> whats the differences beteween the version on there?
[14:39] <oerheks> too much to type; check out the releasnotes?
[14:39] <meway> ok to Maik
[14:39] <meway> ty *
[14:39] <oerheks> !releasenotes
[14:40] <Maik> 20.04 is a LTS release support for 5 years from the time it came out, 20.10 is a interim release supported for 9 months meway
[14:40] <meway> ok so whats the trick to get it on a usb stick? lol
[14:40] <ThinkT510> nunya: well done for persevering
[14:40] <Maik> read the docs meway
[14:41] <meway> the docs link or the one you provided?
[14:41] <oerheks> sure you can find the tool to write an iso on usb
[14:41] <Maik> meway: https://ubuntu.com/tutorials/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows#1-overview
[14:41] <Maik> just try to look a bit further or search the web
[14:42] <Maik> there are so many tutorials and guides out there
[14:42] <Maik> meway: you use windows at the moment?
[14:43] <meway> @maik yes, I haven't touched ubuntu in years but my fiances pc with windows just crashed and I can't recover the drive. so I got a new drive and figure ubuntu will serve for now until i get hers.
[14:43] <meway> windows*
[14:44] <Maik> i'd check if the drive is still ok
[14:44] <Maik> nvm
[14:45] <Maik> anyway, how to creat a live usb stick is in the link i gave
[14:45] <meway> found it ^_^ thanks for the help.
[14:46] <Maik> yw
If you don't want to give personal information make stuff up. Just put the info you used in an encrypted text file for your own reference later if you need to recall email used, password, etc.. As <Maik>was saying  you can download iso to usb flash drive. Make sure only iso or OS files only thing on it. Might have to go into bios and change boot order to flash drive first Instructions should be on the download page. It's how I
[14:48] <nunya> installed Ubuntu and configured dual boot Ubuntu and Windows.
[14:49] <ripper> hello everybody
[14:49] <Maik> !hi | ripper
[14:49] <ripper> i wanted to install the nvidia driver on my system but unforunately couldn't do it.in the way of installation
[14:50] <ripper> i had to disable/blacklist my nouveau driver
[14:50] <ripper> so now i can't reach it and want to get it back to work again
[14:51] <ripper> i searched a lot but couldn't find a proper help to do that .Could you please help me?
[14:51] <ripper> Maik: hi
[14:52] <nunya> Yes I still have Windows. Have stripped it down to almost nothing with no internet access, windows update deactivated, only a couple of programs that I couldn't get WINE to run. So many files in .acd format that I couldn't start over in Fruity Loops or whatever. I'm still hoping for the day when WINE will run Acid or Sony Music Studio Pro.
[14:53] <Maik> !discuss | nunya
[14:55] <nunya> OK, the sun's coming up. Going for a sunrise surf in Northern California cold water! Thanks again!
Was thanking some people here for their help and kind of got on a rant sorry. See ya.
[15:05] <shinobi> I installed gnome-chess, but I cannot see an icon for it, nor can I find a terminal command for it. Is this an issue with 20.04?
[15:07] <Maik> shinobi: dunno, did you search for bug reports yet?
[15:07] <Maik> maybe log out and back in again
[15:07] <shinobi> Maik: I found the issue. I installed gnuchess, not gnome-chess
[15:07] <shinobi> I guess I need more coffee
[15:07] <Maik> ouch
[15:07] <Maik> can happen
[15:08] <shinobi> Easy fix at least
[15:09] <LordCyrus> how do I make variables persist between crontab executions?
[15:10] <LordCyrus> I've read around but not getting much wiser atm... :S
[15:13] <ripper> nobody knows about my broblem solution?
[15:14] <Maik> ripper: i guess not
[15:14] <ripper> thanks Maik
[15:15] <oerheks> ripper, one needs to give more info...
[15:15] <oerheks> what ubuntu version what nvidia driver, what nvidia card....
[15:15] <ripper> 20.04.2
[15:17] <ripper> nvidia G72 GeForce 7200 GS / 7300 SE
[15:18] <ripper> when i want to install it , get this error
[15:19] <oerheks> oh, that old GPU GeForce 7200 GS is below the specs for Nvidia 340 , minimum is 8800 ?
[15:20] <oerheks> yes, https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/156163/en-us
[15:20] <ripper> ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module
[15:21] <ripper> i got the exact and proper version of my system
[15:22] <oerheks> use the nouveau driver.
[15:23] <ripper> oerheks: yeah too old but need that graphic card to install .i think first i need to build it according to my kernal version
[15:23] <oerheks> good luck, i tell you to use nouveau.
[15:24] <ripper> oerheks:by the way i even can not to enable it
[15:25] <ripper> in the installation of another driver first you need to disable the nouveau so did i.but now i can not enable the nouveau driver again
[15:26] <ripper> so i did *
[15:26] <ripper> Do you know a way to enable it again?
[15:29] <ripper> according to this command  i have it installed on my computer (apt search nouveau)
[15:30] <ripper> can't reach ther graphic card by graphical interface because it doesn't load them
[15:31] <ThinkT510> ripper: is it in the list of loaded kernel modules?: lsmod
[15:31] <ripper> yes it is
[15:31] <ThinkT510> then you are using the driver
[15:32] <ripper> no wait
[15:32] <ripper> sorry i didn't use this command before
[15:32] <ThinkT510> ripper: lsmod shows you the currently loaded kernel modules
[15:33] <ripper> ok then Which word i should look for now? in the list of answer of that command?
[15:34] <ThinkT510> ripper: the module is called nouveau
[15:35] <ripper> could not find it in the list
[15:35] <ripper> seems i don't have it running
[15:35] <ThinkT510> ripper: then you need to load it: sudo modprobe nouveau
[15:36] <ripper> ok did. then i need to reboot my system?
[15:37] <ThinkT510> just log out and back in
[15:37] <ripper> thanks i'm in safe mode of ubuntu now
[15:38] <ThinkT510> if you've blacklisted the driver then it wouldn't load the next time you boot
[15:38] <LordCyrus> how do I make variables persist between crontab executions?
[15:38] <LordCyrus> i.e. how should I declare a variable that persists between executions of crontab command
[15:38] <LordCyrus> any ideas?
[15:40] <ripper> i've blacklisted the nouveau driver
[15:41] <ripper> Do you think if it comes up again?
[15:41] <ThinkT510> ripper: then you'll need to remove it from the blacklist
[15:41] <ripper> but how?
[15:41] <ThinkT510> ripper: how did you blacklist it?
[15:43] <ripper> https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-the-nvidia-drivers-on-ubuntu-20-04-focal-fossa-linux
[15:43] <ripper> by following the commands in that site
[15:44] <ThinkT510> ripper: did you first check that your card is supported by any of the nvidia drivers?
[15:45] <ripper> yes idid
[15:45] <ThinkT510> ripper: which one supports it and which one did you install?
[15:45] <ripper> i've found the right version from the original nvidia webpage
[15:46] <ripper> unfortunately i couldn't install it but before any installation i've blacklisted the nouveau driver
[15:47] <ripper> now i have two problem.first i don't have the nouveau running on my system. and second one is couldn't install nvidia
[15:48] <ThinkT510> ripper: what does the following output?: cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf
[15:48] <ripper> uveau.conf
[15:48] <ripper> blacklist nouveau
[15:48] <ripper> options nouveau modeset=0
[15:49] <ThinkT510> ripper: you can just simply remove that file and reboot: sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf
[15:50] <ripper> ok i did
[16:06] <ripper> back
[16:07] <ripper> i did remove the config file simply by this command sudo rm /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf and did reboot it but unfortunately the graphical mode didn't start
[16:09] <ripper> by this command (cat /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf)
[16:09] <ripper> it says : cat: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nvidia-nouveau.conf: No such file or directory
[16:10] <Cann0n> any solid fix for dummy output?
[16:10] <ThinkT510> ripper: it isn't there any more because you removed it
[16:11] <ThinkT510> ripper: does nouveau appear in lsmod?
[16:12] <ripper> no it doesn't
[16:12] <ThinkT510> ripper: sudo modprobe nouveau
[16:15] <ripper> i ran that command and then ran lsmod
[16:15] <ripper> the answer is
[16:15] <ripper> nouveau              1949696  0
[16:15] <meway> yea so it failed to install and booted up desktop mode to investigate?
[16:15] <meway> idk whats happening...
[16:16] <ThinkT510> ripper: great, now the module is loaded
[16:16] <ripper> now the reboot time bbs
[16:17] <meway> ubi-partman failed with exit code 10. Further information may be found in /var/log/syslog. do you want to try running this step again before continuing? if you do not your installation may fail entirely or may be broken...
[16:26] <ripper> still the graphical mode doesn't work
[16:26] <ripper> i'm talking to you in recovery mode of my system now
[16:27] <ThinkT510> ripper: when you are booting are you using nomodeset?
[16:27] <Shariff> Hi there
[16:28] <ripper> again by commans lsmod the nouveau doesn't appear in the answer list
[16:28] <ripper> ThinkT510:don't know
[16:29] <ripper> i just run it normally
[16:29] <ripper> and wait but the graphical mode doesn't come up
[16:30] <ThinkT510> ripper: if you are using nomodeset then you need to unset it. the nouveau driver uses kernel mode setting so using nomodeset would cause it not to work. usually with the nvidia drivers they tell you to use nomodeset to disable kernel mode setting
[16:31] <ThinkT510> !nomodeset | ripper
[16:31] <ioria> ripper, cat /proc/cmdline (you can paste here)
[16:34] <ripper> ioria:BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-65-generic root=UUID=3e7705a3-c0d1-41ed-a77c-4f37463fcbc7 ro recovery nomodeset dis_ucode_ldr
[16:35] <ioria> here you are
[16:35] <ripper> so what should i do?
[16:35] <ioria> ripper, cat /etc/default/grub | nc gtermbin.com 9999
[16:36] <ioria> ripper, cat /etc/default/grub | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:36] <ripper> i have to use both of them?
[16:36] <ThinkT510> top one was a typo
[16:36] <ioria> ripper, just the 2°, sorry
[16:36] <ripper> ok
[16:37] <ripper> i did
[16:38] <ThinkT510> you'll need to paste the link so we can see
[16:38] <ioria> ripper, paste the link you got, pls
[16:38] <ripper> what is that llink?
[16:38] <ioria> it's a link
[16:38] <ioria> ripper, it's the cmd output
[16:39] <Shariff> DOes anyone have an idea what is wrong when I try to use a share on my NAS and I can use it with a windows10 box, but when I use the same credentials on an unbutu system, I get permissions denied for that same user...?
[16:39] <Shariff> NAS is a QNAP TS-431P
[16:40] <ripper> https://termbin.com/nork
[16:42] <ioria> ripper, nope; must be something else
[16:42] <ripper> just that link
[16:42] <ripper> nothing else
[16:42] <ioria> ripper, did you try to install nvidia with the .RUN file ?
[16:42] <ripper> yes i did
[16:42] <ripper> but i got an error
[16:43] <ioria> ripper, what error ?
[16:44] <ripper> ERROR: Unable to build the NVIDIA kernel module
[16:45] <ioria> ripper, try to remove it : sudo bash NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-XXX.XX.run --uninstall  (or similar)
[16:46] <ripper> let's see
[16:47] <ripper> unrecognized option: "--uninstal"
[16:48] <ripper> ERROR: Invalid commandline, please run `./nvidia-installer --help` for
[16:48] <ripper>        usage information.
[16:48] <ioria> ripper, see what options you have for unistall
[16:48] <ripper> by help?  ./nvidia-installer --hel
[16:49] <ioria> ofc
[16:49] <Shariff> What does it mean to "squash users" for an nfs share?
[16:50] <ripper> bash: ./nvidia-installer: No such file or directory
[16:51] <ioria> ripper, btw, it's  --uninstall not --uninstal
[16:51] <ioria> ripper, double 'l'
[16:52] <ripper> worked
[16:52] <ripper> it says : There is no NVIDIA driver currently installed
[16:52] <ioria> ripper,  ok;  dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:53] <ripper> https://termbin.com/9o7j
[16:54] <ioria> ripper,  ok;  dpkg -l | grep -i nouveau | nc termbin.com 9999
[16:54] <Cann0n> if nvidia is giving you a hassle, might consider heading over to system76's Pop_OS. use their driver repo
[16:55] <Cann0n> just a thought.
[16:55] <ThinkT510> Cann0n: then you'd need to get support from them
[16:55] <Sbur3> I am running Ubuntu 20.10. When I try to access "audio" in System Settings, it crashes. Any counsel as to what I'm doing wrong and how to fix it?  Or is this more something to send to the developers?
[16:56] <ripper> https://termbin.com/9kah
[16:57] <ioria> ripper,  grep blacklist /lib/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouv
[16:57] <meway> I'm trying to install not online and see if that makes a difference
[16:57] <Cann0n> ThinkT510, to use their repo?
[16:58] <ripper> /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau
[16:58] <ThinkT510> Cann0n: this channel can only support official ubuntu releases. PopOS is not an official ubuntu release. any issues would need to go to them.
[16:58] <ioria> ripper, mv or backup that file
[16:59] <ripper> which file?
[16:59] <Sbur3> "Executable: systemsettings5 PID: 4906 Signal: Segmentation fault (11) Time: 2/6/21 5:58:34 PM CET"
[16:59] <ripper> it's just an answer
[16:59] <ioria> ripper, /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf
[16:59] <Cann0n> ThinkT510, I was more so suggesting if someone is having trouble with nivida drivers, simply putting their repo on your computer and apt getting them... nvm...
[16:59] <ioria> ripper, do you see it ?
[17:00] <ioria> ripper, move it somewhere else
[17:00] <ripper> no wait
[17:00] <ThinkT510> Cann0n: they are free to do that but if anything goes wrong using PopOS repos then it is a PopOS issue so we are unable to support it here
[17:00] <ripper>  need to go to that directory first
[17:00] <ioria> nope
[17:01] <ripper> then what?
[17:01] <ioria> ripper, ls /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf
[17:01] <ThinkT510> ripper: you already have the full path to the file
[17:02] <ioria> ripper, e.g.   sudo mv  /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf  /home/$USER
[17:02] <ripper> by this command (ls /lib/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf)  i see two files
[17:02] <ioria> nope, you just see one
[17:03] <ripper> ok i did
[17:03] <ioria> ripper, are we sure of that ?
[17:03] <ripper> and now i have it in my /home directory
[17:03] <ioria> ok
[17:04] <ioria> ripper,  now:   grep blacklist /lib/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nvidia
[17:04] <ripper> did
[17:04] <ioria> and ?
[17:04] <ripper> nothing
[17:04] <ioria> ok
[17:05] <ioria> ripper,  now:   grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouveau
[17:05] <ripper> shows a new command to write in
[17:05] <ioria> ripper,  now:   grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouveau
[17:05] <ripper> both?
[17:05] <ioria> just one
[17:05] <ripper> the last one?
[17:05] <ioria> yes
[17:06] <ripper> yeah both are the same :)
[17:06] <ioria> yep, and ?
[17:06] <ripper> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau
[17:06] <ripper> /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau
[17:07] <ioria> ripper,  you need to move also those files in your home; is it clear ?
[17:07] <ripper> yes
[17:07] <ioria> do it
[17:08] <ripper> wait a bit please
[17:08] <ThinkT510> ripper: make sure you are moving them and not just copying them. you don't want them staying in /etc/modprobe.d/
[17:08] <ioria> that's a good advice ? ripper
[17:08] <ripper> so i need to use mv command?
[17:08] <ioria> yes
[17:11] <ripper> Do i need to use this(/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf:blacklist nouveau) in my command or just use (/etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf)
[17:11] <ioria> ripper, sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-nouveau.conf  /home/$USER
[17:12] <ioria> ripper, then,  sudo mv /etc/modprobe.d/nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf /home/$USER
[17:12] <ripper> ok wait to move both of them
[17:14] <ripper> done
[17:14] <ioria> ripper,  then check again :   grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouveau
[17:14] <ioria> should be empty
[17:15] <ripper> wait
[17:15] <ripper> before that
[17:15] <ripper> i move a conf file to my home directory
[17:15] <ripper> and then move two file again to that directory
[17:15] <ripper> files*
[17:16] <ioria> yes
[17:16] <ripper> but now i have just two files there
[17:16] <ioria> one is the same
[17:16] <ioria> nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf
[17:16] <ripper> yeah same  .but now you told me to back it up there
[17:17] <ioria> ripper, and ?
[17:17] <ripper> and now ithink it was resaved there
[17:17] <ioria> and ?
[17:17] <ioria> it'a a copy
[17:17] <ripper> ok it's ok if you say :)
[17:17] <ioria> ripper, that's not your problem
[17:18] <ioria> your problem is a borked (not supported) nvidia install
[17:18] <ripper> ok let's run this command grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nouveau
[17:18] <ripper> yes
[17:18] <ripper> nothing happened
[17:19] <ioria> ripper,    grep blacklist /etc/modprobe.d/* | grep -i nvidia
[17:19] <ripper> /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf:blacklist nvidiafb
[17:20] <ioria> ripper, that's ok; what's your release , focal  20.04 ? cat /etc/issue
[17:21] <ripper> Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
[17:22] <ioria> ripper, sudo apt update && sudo apt full-upgrade
[17:22] <ripper> upgrade to 20.10?
[17:22] <ioria> nope
[17:23] <ripper> done
[17:23] <ioria> nothing running ?
[17:23] <ripper> nothing
[17:23] <ripper> just updated
[17:24] <pytorch> can anyone help me with installing lustre on ubuntu?
[17:24] <ioria> ripper, what's your kernel ?  uname -r
[17:24] <ripper> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded
[17:24] <LiveWire> When I build my own kernel, then just do a make install. dkms kicks in and builds a few packages ive installed, but not nvidia. I cant find where this setting might be
[17:25] <ripper> 5.4.0-65-generic
[17:25] <ripper> (it's because i'm using the recovery mode)
[17:25] <ioria> ripper, meaning ?
[17:25] <ioria> ripper,  ls /boot | nc termbin.com 9999
[17:25] <ripper> i think it's not the right number of my kernel version
[17:26] <ioria> it should
[17:26] <ioria> !info linux-generic focal
[17:27] <ripper> https://termbin.com/g6xq
[17:27] <ioria> ripper, it's ok;  sudo apt install --reinstall linux-generic
[17:28] <aiena> does anyone know if we can remove audio latency on a KVM host
[17:28] <ripper> done
[17:28] <aiena> err kvm guest
[17:28] <ripper> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 reinstalled, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[17:28] <ioria> ripper, sudo update-initramfs -u -k all
[17:32] <ripper> done
[17:32] <ioria> ripper, reboot
[17:33] <ioria> afk
[17:33] <ripper> ok bbs
[17:35] <ThinkT510> !cookie | ioria
[17:39] <ripper> ioria:Thank you very much ioria
[17:39] <ripper> works fine
[17:40] <ripper> ThinkT510:Thank you very much ThinkT510
[17:40] <ThinkT510> ripper: well done
[17:43] <ioria> ripper, you're welcome
[17:43] <ioria> ThinkT510, tx
[18:22] <meway> yea so I cant seem to get ubuntu to install from a thumb drive
[18:22] <meway> Would this issue here cause this ^
[18:22] <meway> https://askubuntu.com/questions/1241795/xdg-runtime-dir-is-not-owned-by-us-uid-0
[19:42] <swear000> hi
[19:45] <codeguru> hello
[19:50] <gurde> hi, i updated to 20.04.02 on a pi4, and at boot i get failed to load '//uboot/ubuntu/boot.sel', any ideas why?
[19:50] <Twilighttony> What packages does Ubuntu use to get the apple trackpad 2 usb trackpad working? I am trying to get another distro going and the drivers seem to be missing
[19:52] <oerheks> apple trackpad 2 usb ? they all are BlueTooth, i got mine trackpad1 working fine
[19:52] <Twilighttony> oerheks, I use mine with the lightning connector connected directly to my computer's usb port
[19:55] <oerheks> oh oke, i am reading about that now
[19:56] <oerheks> seems to be in the kernel since 4.20 ?
[19:57] <gurde> any ideas about the boot error?
[20:03] <gurde> what does the '//uboot/ubuntu/boot.sel' file do?
[20:08] <pavlos> gurde: are you booting from an sd or an ssd ?
[20:13] <gurde> from an sd card
[20:13] <gurde> it boots, but i get that error at boot
[20:14] <gurde> pavlos :)
[20:24] <gurde> pavlos is it because i'm booting from an sd card?
[20:41] <pavlos> gurde: no, I keep reading articles, there may be an issue that the kernel is not in the /boot partition but I dont have a pi4 to verify
[20:41] <pavlos> gurde: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=270854
[20:48] <gurde> I don't have that issues, my pi boots
[20:48] <gurde> the issues is with 20.04.02, and that was released recently
[20:50] <gurde> i also opened a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/u-boot/+bug/1914878
[20:50] <Maik> did you use 20.04.1 before and  reflash it with 20.04.2?
[20:51] <gurde> i updated
[20:51] <Maik> i'm running ubuntu 20.04 server on a Pi 4 completely up to date and didn't have any issues
[20:52] <gurde> check your boot messages
[20:54] <gurde> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EHZYnMwLUgpwDqEx6
[20:54] <gurde> see video
[20:57] <gurde> i just flashed a fresh img onto another sd card, same error
[20:59] <javi404> any idea? Errors were encountered while processing:
[20:59] <javi404>  linux-image-unsigned-5.10.13-051013-generic
[20:59] <javi404> using this guide: https://sypalo.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu
[20:59] <javi404> also, i figured out my gpu problems, It was the bios settings.
[20:59] <oerheks> maybe you need a signed kernel for uefi?
[20:59] <javi404> some bug, who cares, won't change settings again.
[21:00] <javi404> old hardware oerheks
[21:00] <javi404> 10 years old
[21:00] <oerheks> old hardware,,,,, why a mainline kernel?
[21:00] <oerheks> those are for testing, and unsupported
[21:00] <oerheks> !mainline
[21:01] <oerheks> use the 5.4 or 5.8 kernel
[21:01] <javi404> oerheks: I guess I can revert, but why not make 5.10 work?
[21:01] <javi404> it boots ok
[21:01] <javi404> just wondering about thoes errors
[21:11] <semitones> Would `sudo -H synaptic` be equivalent to opening synaptic through the gui?
[21:13] <oerheks> yes, depending on the policy, this may be the default behavior
[21:14] <semitones> I ask this question because sometimes I can't find where the shortcut is, and it would be easier to invoke synaptic or other programs from the gui
[21:14] <semitones> but I can never remember the safe way to do that
[21:18] <Maik> javi404: as said before that kernel isn't supported here and thus not a Ubuntu support question, maybe you have better luck in ##linux or a kernel related channel.
[21:19] <javi404> Maik: the kernel is from kernel.ubuntu.org
[21:19] <Maik> as oerheks said it's for testing not supported here
[21:19] <oerheks> oh, not even from mainline?
[21:20] <javi404> it's mainline stable
[21:20] <Maik> ask the ubuntu kernel devs
[21:20] <javi404> for testing i know, and it works fine, i think there is a bug in the headers .deb
[21:20] <javi404> Maik: where can I find them?
[21:20] <javi404> https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v5.10.13/amd64/ is where the files are if anyone is interested
[21:21] <Maik> javi404: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[21:21] <javi404> thanks
[21:21] <Maik> yw
[21:35] <trupsalms> hello room, i'm looking for a little help as to why i'm getting this error: curl --doh-url https://dns-server.example.com https://www.example.com
[21:35] <trupsalms> curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host name
[21:36] <trupsalms> i can ping all day, google yahoo abc cbs etc
[21:37] <trupsalms> i'm using ubuntu 20.04
[22:00] <summonner> https://serverfault.com/questions/903478/couldnt-resolve-host-name-could-not-resolve-host-in-zabbix
[22:11] <[n3p]> Is there a Ubuntu desktop friendly to low resolution LCD (1366x768)?  Devs must be using 4K displays and destroy pixels and space with a lot of crap and non-sense
[22:14] <Maik> nag nag nag... and you know there are many other desktop flavors ;)
[22:15] <[n3p]> That is what i'm asking. If somebody knows a good alternative
[22:16] <[n3p]> Unity used to be the most sensible desktop for WXGA. It's incredible that LXQt, Xfce waste so many pixels in nonsense
[22:18] <krytarik> Define "nonsense"
[22:18] <Maik> [n3p]: then use ubuntu unity, we just released 20.04.2. Not a official flavor yet but we're working on that.
[22:19] <Maik> also this debate belongs in either offtopic or maybe better -discuss
[22:19] <[n3p]> nonsense = waste of space without a reason
[22:19] <Maik> !discuss
[22:20] <[n3p]> But Unity is dead!! You kill it.
[22:21] <Maik> clown elsewhere
[22:22] <[n3p]> arrogant
[22:25] <[n3p]> better close this channel if you don't want to help users. You are damaging the image of a company/project smartasses
[22:29] <derpadmin> is it considered bad to take the irc #ubuntu log history and post it on my site?
[22:29] <derpadmin> they are public...
[22:29] <Maik> wrong channel to ask in imho
[22:29] <derpadmin> just trying to make some cheap DIY SEO
[22:30] <derpadmin> Maik how so?
[22:30] <Maik> it's not a ubuntu related support question
[22:30] <Maik> ask in #ubuntu-irc
[22:30] <derpadmin> ack
[23:09] <zealsham> say i have a list of subdomains like
[23:09] <zealsham> ```
[23:09] <zealsham> dev.paypal.com
[23:09] <zealsham> svc-beta.paypal.com
[23:09] <zealsham> tes.dev1.paypal.com
[23:09] <zealsham> stage.qt.paypal.com
[23:11] <zealsham> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/SkQXjXZNsk/ here is a paste of everything
[23:13] <foxide> zealsham: In general, you won't, because not all TLDs are one blob. '.co.uk' is a TLD, for example.
[23:15] <foxide> To give a sense for the problem, if you try to match a domain name, you wind up using regexes, and this: ^(([a-zA-Z]{1})|([a-zA-Z]{1}[a-zA-Z]{1})|([a-zA-Z]{1}[0-9]{1})|([0-9]{1}[a-zA-Z]{1})|([a-zA-Z0-9][a-zA-Z0-9-_]{1,61}[a-zA-Z0-9]))\.([a-zA-Z]{2,}|[a-zA-Z0-9-]{2,30}\.[a-zA-Z]{2,3})$
[23:25] <semitones> Maybe it would be better to start with a list of all the allowed top level domains in the world and go from there
[23:28] <nunya> Any way to have my Windows partition automatically mounted when I login to Ubuntu instead of having to open it through Nemo?
[23:29] <leftyfb> zealsham: awk -F. '{print $(NF-2)"."$(NF-1)"."$NF}' <path-to-file>
[23:29] <zealsham> letfyfb , checking that out
[23:30] <leftyfb> nunya: https://csetutorials.com/auto-mount-ntfs-partitions-startup-ubuntu-linux.html
 Thanks I'll check it out. Probably would slow down my already 2 minute boot time. Maybe I won't automount it but good to have the link for reference.
[23:33] <zealsham> thank you leftyfb
[23:34] <leftyfb> zealsham: I think there's a bash substitution you can do as well but I don't know it off the top of my head. You might try asking in #bash