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oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:34
zpercussionistgood morning!06:34
dufluMorning oSoMoN and zpercussionist 06:36
oSoMoNhey duflu & zpercussionist 06:42
jibelGood morning all07:05
dufluHi jibel 07:10
jibelHi duflu 07:13
oSoMoNsalut jibel 07:19
jibelSalut oSoMoN 07:51
didrocksgood morning08:02
dufluHi didrocks 08:03
marcustomlinsonmorning oSoMoN zpercussionist duflu jibel didrocks08:03
duflu'lo marcustomlinson 08:03
didrockshey duflu, marcustomlinson 08:04
jibelhi marcustomlinson 08:28
oSoMoNgood morning didrocks & marcustomlinson 08:53
didrockssalut oSoMoN 08:54
Laneyhappy snow morning!09:02
dufluLaney, happy not raining (it did all weekend)09:02
dufluAt least it wasn't a cyclone anymore09:02
didrockshello Laney 09:02
Laneyhey duflu didrocks 09:05
Laneyapparently this is wind and snow from ukraine09:05
seb128goood morning desktopers09:07
oSoMoNsalut seb128 09:07
oSoMoNhappy sleighing Laney 09:07
seb128lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?09:08
dufluHi seb128 09:08
seb128hey duflu 09:08
oSoMoNseb128, à peu près reposé et bien deconnecté, et toi?09:08
didrockssalut seb128 09:09
jibelsalut seb128 09:09
seb128lut didrocks 09:09
seb128lut jibel 09:09
seb128oSoMoN, fatigué mais sinon ça va09:10
Laneyhey seb128 oSoMoN 09:11
marcustomlinsonmorning Laney and seb12809:12
Laneyhey marcustomlinson 09:13
Laneyhow's the snow there?09:13
seb128hey marcustomlinson 09:13
seb128we got snow here as well this night09:14
seb128we were supposed to drive yesterday but delayed our return trip due to the conditions09:14
marcustomlinsonLaney: just a little icing on the top here :)09:14
* duflu assumes Scotland is made of cake09:18
Laneyblack bun yes dundee cake no NO09:24
marcustomlinsonwell my daughter seems to like the way the ground tastes09:24
seb128Laney, I don't have edit rights I think on https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/hirsute-hippo-release-schedule ... could you update it for us to note that GNOME 40 we are only going to get some limited components?10:06
seb128Laney, also we had new glib on january marked, wdyt about syncing 2.67 from experimental?10:06
Laneyok, and go for it10:11
Laneyget popey to add you to that category imho10:11
Laneywork to fix that ticket has been assigned for a couple of months now, no movement yet10:11
Laneywant to put wayland in one of the weeks?10:12
seb128sounds like an idea yes, probably this one? 10:18
seb128Trevinho, what's the status of turning pipewire on in the packages?10:18
Laneyit is in10:27
seb128Laney, speaking about schedule edit or replying to the pipewire question?10:37
seb128I guess editing since I don't see the uploads, thanks :-)10:38
Laneyyes10:40
LaneyI dunno about the upload part10:41
cpaelzer_didrocks: good morning, it would be great if you could discuss https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/marisa/+bug/1914808 in the team before tomorrows MIR meeting10:44
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1914808 in marisa (Ubuntu) "[MIR] marisa" [Undecided,New]10:44
didrockscpaelzer_: will do10:47
didrocksseb128: once you are around ^^10:48
seb128didrocks, I'm around10:49
seb128what needs discussing?10:49
didrocksso, any opinion of taking ownership of marisa?10:49
didrocks(due to opencc dep)10:50
seb128well I don't think we have much of a choice10:53
seb128so yes, we should accept it10:53
seb128do you want me to edit the description to be more 'standard' at least in formating and sections?10:53
didrocksseb128: that would be appreciated10:55
seb128didrocks, k, will do11:00
didrocksthx!11:02
seb128what's the page again that list debian uploads you did for someone?11:33
Laneyseb128: https://udd.debian.org/sponsorstats.cgi ?11:35
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cpaelzer_didrocks: I see you want the package, I'd be able to squeze in a review now - or did you already start on it?12:20
didrockscpaelzer_: oh please grab it away! I was scheduling it for tomorrow, but if you have time, feel free :)12:26
seb128Laney, thanks12:42
Beretxnox, btw, my problem on friday was a network-manager update that recreated the default ethernet device, therefore nuking my configured bridge13:12
BeretI guess that's what I get for using a desktop as a pseudo-server, but it was annoying nonetheless13:13
Trevinhoseb128: yeah, sooo... I'm doing some further testing13:58
seb128Trevinho, hey, did you spot any issue or just making sure things are working?14:05
seb128cpaelzer_, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/521448373/buildlog_ubuntu-hirsute-amd64.marisa_0.2.6-3~exp2ubuntu1_BUILDING.txt.gz14:05
Trevinhoseb128: not big problems so far but need to test the remote part14:05
seb128cpaelzer_, if you search for 'make  check-TESTS'14:06
seb128============================================================================14:06
seb128Testsuite summary for marisa 0.2.614:06
seb128============================================================================14:06
seb128# TOTAL: 514:06
seb128# PASS:  514:06
seb128oh, I see GunnarHj comment that on the bug14:06
seb128Trevinho, even if it's not working it's not going to be a regression over not having it so no point delaying enabling?14:07
Trevinhonoted14:07
ItzSwirlzracb: Just noted that LP #1901344 is still sitting around. I remember looking at it from earlier that it applies with groovy (both patches)14:30
ubot5Launchpad bug 1901344 in cinnamon-screensaver (Ubuntu Groovy) "[SRU] Spotify album icon shows optimal CD disk instead of album/cover image" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190134414:30
Trevinhoseb128: there may need few things to do though https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/mutter/-/merge_requests/1406#note_93503314:34
TrevinhoI think daniel already linked that eraly14:35
seb128Trevinho, yes, that's on our trello board and we discussed those in the hangout, I will handle the settings change when you upload14:36
Trevinhoearlier*14:36
Trevinhoyes yes14:36
TrevinhoI was just cross checking in the board we had them all14:36
seb128k, I think we have those14:36
ItzSwirlzwhoops, wrong room14:39
cpaelzer_seb128: I was distracted by the full page of no-tests after dh_auto_test , but you are right14:50
cpaelzer_thanks14:50
seb128cpaelzer_, np!15:02
rbasakIs it intended that all 20.04 desktops move on to the HWE kernel? Because one of mine hasn't, which puzzled me until I realised that it's probably because it was upgraded up to Focal, so hasn't got the different metapackage.19:57
oSoMoNrbasak, according to https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/improvements-for-hardware-support-in-ubuntu-desktop-installation-media/20606 that happens only when you installed 20.04 afresh, not after upgrading20:24
rbasakI'm puzzled by the rationale if it isn't intended to put 18.04 upgraders on the same path.20:26
oerheksone can, with the HWE tutor20:29
xnoxrbasak:  in the past, we did sunset people on the next lts. i.e. installations of 18.04.2+ & 18.10+ would land on generic 20.04. Hence the hwe package was named hwe-18.04 which parks on generic.20:37
xnoxrbasak:  our reasoning was, that this what the contract was when people installed those repsective series.20:37
xnoxrbasak:  with 20.04, generic & hwe-20.04 are everlasting tracks. Hence even 20.10/21.04/21.10 installers install and track hwe-20.04 track. Which will rollover to hwe-22.04 in 22.04 and stay hwe.20:38
xnoxrbasak:  hence yes, there is difference between desktop fresh install of 20.04 or later; vs upgrade to 20.04 or later. But that is the last barrier.20:39
xnoxfrom now on, there shouldn't be any different.20:39
xnoxrbasak:  does above sound reasonable?20:39
xnoxrbasak:  ie. when upgrading from xenial -> bionic; if one had hwe, one ends up with bionic. Effectively no kernel change as latest hwe in xenial is the bionic kernel.20:40
xnoxrbasak: and if one wanted to keep hwe, one had to switch to hwe track after every lts jump.20:41
xnoxrbasak:  22.04 lts will be the first time where turning hwe on again will not be needed.20:41
xnox(if one already was on hwe prior to the upgrade to 22.04)20:41
rbasakxnox: I think I follow, but as you say, "last barrier". Isn't that the majority of Ubuntu users though, who keep upgrading up through releases?21:01
ItzSwirlzhey kenvandine, question about yaru.dart, want to move to dms, or would you prefer here?22:11
ItzSwirlz(its about yaru theme branch for cinnamon de)22:11

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