 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/GJMEM14y.png I supposedly installed Ungoogled Chromium on my Libertine container. How do I use it/try to launch it?
 @JIHP334 [<reply to media>], It will create an icon in the app drawer if actually successfully installed.
 @TotalSonic [It will create an icon in the app drawer if actually successfully installed.], Well there’s nothing there even after refreshing, so I guess the install failed. 🤷🏼‍♂️ … Thanks for your answer.
 Is the 3.2 update of Dekko2 in the Open Store safe for install on Stable channek devices?
 @JIHP334 [Well there’s nothing there even after refreshing, so I guess the install failed. …], try rebooting to be extra sure
 @JIHP334 [Well there’s nothing there even after refreshing, so I guess the install failed. …], You can also check by running `libertine-container-manager list-apps` in Terminal
 [Edit] Is the 3.2 update of Dekko2 in the Open Store safe for install on Stable channel devices?
[01:20] <ubptgbot> Mathew was added by: Mathew
 So a weird thing happened. After I “supposedly” installed Ungoogled Chromium in my Libertine container, I went on to install Firefox, Telegram, and Epiphany Browser. The only ones that showed up in the app drawer where Epiphany and Telegram. None of them opened, and Telegram disappeared from the drawer.
 @JIHP334 [So a weird thing happened. After I “supposedly” installed Ungoogled Chromium in …], what does this command say https://t.me/ubports/323486
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/HkFRieJX.png
 eh? only epiphany seems to be correctly installed
 @Fuseteam [eh? only epiphany seems to be correctly installed], Epiphany is a game - epiphany-browser is the package name in 16.04 for the Gnome Web browser - which will install, and launch, but does not function
 @TotalSonic [Epiphany is a game - epiphany-browser is the package name in 16.04 for the Gnome …], no no i'm saying out of the four application @JIHP334 installed only epiphany appears to be installed correctly
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/zJCIUYu7.png Telegram was also in the drawer. Keyword, was. The only thing that stayed is Gnome Web.
 @TotalSonic [Epiphany is a game - epiphany-browser is the package name in 16.04 for the Gnome …], Yeah it doesn’t work at all. Which is a bummer cause I actually like that browser.
 @JIHP334 [<reply to media>], sounds like an error with the libertine gui; it appears as if, for some reason, only one application is installed correctly at a time
 @Fuseteam [no no i'm saying out of the four application @JIHP334 installed only epiphany ap …], Yes, I have a feeling his container is borked and needs to be deleted and re-installed to actually install any packages into it
 @JIHP334 [Yeah it doesn’t work at all. Which is a bummer cause I actually like that browse …], maybe you could try installing via de libertine-container-manager to see if that works correctly
 @TotalSonic [Yes, I have a feeling his container is borked and needs to be deleted and re-ins …], Well I’ve always had problems making a container. So I wouldn’t be surprised the phone messed up the first one it made.
 @JIHP334 [Yeah it doesn’t work at all. Which is a bummer cause I actually like that browse …], You didn't even actually install it - the package name for Gnome Web browser is `epiphany-browser`
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/BjrNLaEk.png That’s what the deb says I downloaded. 😭
 @JIHP334 [<reply to media>], it is like the correct one
 @JIHP334 [<reply to media>], [Edit] it is likely the correct one
 @JIHP334 [<reply to media>], You are going to have major problems trying to install downloaded debs instead of using the repos. Also you need to install only arm64 debs for arm64 devices, and armhf debs for 32bit arm devices.
 @JIHP334 [<reply to media>], oh hey firefox is arm64 while epiphany is armhf
 then again telegram also appears to be armhf
 Yeah - that ain't going to work
 @JIHP334 [<reply to media>], What device are using?
 but seriously tho @JIHP334. try the commandline method: `libertine-container-manager install-package -p PACKAGE-NAME`
 @TotalSonic [What device are using?], Nexus 5
 you may have more success via the commandline atm
 @JIHP334 [Nexus 5], That is armhf
 @TotalSonic [That is armhf], So that’s why only epiphany and telegram gave me launch icons?
 @Fuseteam [but seriously tho @JIHP334. try the commandline method: libertine-container-mana …], shamelessly copy pasted from https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html#
 @JIHP334 [So that’s why only epiphany and telegram gave me launch icons?], Yes
 @JIHP334 [So that’s why only epiphany and telegram gave me launch icons?], yes but that doesn't explain why telegram disappeared
 also the size for epiphany looks sus
 @Fuseteam [yes but that doesn't explain why telegram disappeared], Well maybe it’s the container, like Steven said.
 @JIHP334 [Well maybe it’s the container, like Steven said.], can try the command i sent earlier, just to confirm its not a gui issue?
 @JIHP334 [Well maybe it’s the container, like Steven said.], [Edit] can you try the command i sent earlier, just to confirm its not a gui issue?
 @Fuseteam [also the size for epiphany looks sus], I got it from one of Debian’s websites. It was like an archive of their available packages.
 @Fuseteam [can you try the command i sent earlier, just to confirm its not a gui issue?], Yeah I’ll give it a go
 don't dare ask which command :p jk if it got buried i can send it again
 My experience is that Libertine containers are super fragile and easily get borked from a bad app install. Best to delete the entire.container and start back from scratch
 @Fuseteam [don't dare ask which command :p jk if it got buried i can send it again], Don’t worry. It was just a bit above this message.
 I tried the command and it said the package does not exist
 I’ll just delete the container and try again tomorrow
 @JIHP334 [I tried the command and it said the package does not exist], ok try this then:
 libetine-container-manager exec -c "apt update"
 I already deleted it. 😅 … It was erased a lot faster than I thought it would be considering how long it took to make.
 I screenshoted the important bits and I’ll try again tomorrow. Thanks @Fuseteam & @TotalSonic for all your help.
 ohw oof
 guess i'll just hit the hay
[02:28] <ubptgbot> Leo Carpenter was added by: Leo Carpenter
 @TotalSonic [My experience is that Libertine containers are super fragile and easily get bork …], This nuclear option is not always necessary in my experience. Many times I've salvaged a suposedly-borked container by having a backup of the `ContainerConfig.json` file and restoring it. I think this even worked moving between the cont
[02:30] <ubptgbot> ainers of a phone to an M10 and/or vice-versa!
 It is located under: `~/.local/share/libertine/ContainerConfig.json` and an ideal place to back it up to would be the SD card (if the device supports it) which would also be good for using it to recover the container on another device as just mentioned.
 I think this tip was at one point going to be published on the UBPorts wiki but for some reason it fell by the wayside; never too late IMO.
 [Edit] I think this tip was at one point going to be published on the UBPorts wiki but for some reason it fell by the wayside; never too late IMO. It's the easiest of fixes.
 Thanks for the tip!
 With Libertine in general I find it is a bunch of work for very little actual additional functionality. But I do have a short list of apps which expand UT's capabilities a little bit beyond what native UT and webapps can do. People should know it's one of those features that looks better on paper than it actually is in real life. Still
[02:54] <ubptgbot>  - fun to tinker with for those that like this nerd stuff.
[04:16] <ubptgbot> qwertybyte was added by: qwertybyte
 oh, anyone remember the antivirus app for ubuntu touch :)
 @mateosalta [oh, anyone remember the antivirus app for ubuntu touch :)], Ha was a good one "YOU ARE INFECTED"
 https://code.launchpad.net/~hosein-iprogramer/antivirus/trunk
 looks like it isn't really in a working state mostly
 sais ufw is running?
 [Edit] saus ufw is running?
 [Edit] says ufw is running?
 ooo, what will happen if i kill apparmor
 (Photo, 1080x1920) https://irc.ubports.com/yL9Dzz6t.png
[08:29] <ubptgbot> harmoniousavalanche was added by: harmoniousavalanche
[09:55] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> Someone can install anbox on redmi note 7 ?
[09:58] <ubptgbot> Guillaume Gauvin was added by: Guillaume Gauvin
[09:58] <ubptgbot> <Guillaume Gauvin> you're spamming phone code requests
[10:29] <ubptgbot> Sylvain K was added by: Sylvain K
 Hi guys, the new https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io is awesome! Just a suggestion about hammerhead: in the USB section, the "Wired external monitor" is marked as "Working", while there's still this pesky bug, strictly related to it: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/301 … Is it worth to flag the feature as "Partial", to keep trac
[11:11] <ubptgbot> k of that bug?
 [Edit] Hi guys, the new https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io is awesome, thanks a lot! Just a suggestion about hammerhead: in the USB section, the "Wired external monitor" is marked as "Working", while there's still this pesky bug, strictly related to it: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/301 … Is it worth to flag the feature as "P
[11:16] <ubptgbot> artial", to keep track of that bug?
 [Edit] Hi guys, the new https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io is awesome, thanks a lot! Just a suggestion about hammerhead: in the USB section, the "Wired external monitor" is marked as "Working", while there's still this pesky bug, strictly related to it: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/301 … Is it worth to flag the feature as "P
[11:27] <ubptgbot> artial", to keep track of that bug? … @UniversalSuperBox is working on it...
 @fra_gg [Hi guys, the new https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io is awesome, thanks a lot! Just …], Sure, MR it please ^^
 The nice thing is now that all people can "discuss" the maturity via Merge requests and discussions below
 @Flohack [Sure, MR it please ^^], Sure! I'll do it asap
 @Flohack [Sure, MR it please ^^], [Edit] Thanks! I'll do it asap
 @Flohack [The nice thing is now that all people can "discuss" the maturity via Merge reque …], that's nice!
 Does morph browser have a way to save logins and if not is there a password manager app? … Also, has anyone figured out a way to view their robin hood account from the browser? I can use my banks website on it just fine and since I can receive mms via axolotl I'm one step away from being able to daily drive UT.
 @drym4rch0n [Does morph browser have a way to save logins and if not is there a password mana …], not currently no
 @drym4rch0n [Does morph browser have a way to save logins and if not is there a password mana …], [Edit] there is no password management currently no
 there are keepass apps available (well, keeweb)
[12:55] <ubptgbot> Victorbra2u was added by: Victorbra2u
 @PiecerEdd [there are keepass apps available (well, keeweb)], yeah but there's no autofill service
[13:33] <ubptgbot> albertalkishon was added by: albertalkishon
 I'm always reluctant saving my passwords to browsers for auto fill so I never use it. maybe I'm just too paranoid 😅
 maybe, i didn't like it at first either but the convenience won out against my paranoid.....ness
 i think firefox releasing lockwise was the tipping point for me
 lockwise is great
 especially how it works as a system password manager on android
 I just spent the last 30 minutes messing with keeweb, and then keepass2 on my linux desktop. I'm uhh...not a fan... The icing on the cake was that Keepass2 looks like an app on windows 95.
 @drym4rch0n [I just spent the last 30 minutes messing with keeweb, and then keepass2 on my li …], very secure if you never connect it to the internet, then (:
 dont use keepass2
 use keepassXC
 @PiecerEdd [especially how it works as a system password manager on android], ikr, it works seamlessly
 much more 'native' looking and nice!
 @PiecerEdd [much more 'native' looking and nice!], Good to know.
 If I could just get Firefox on UT I would be set.
 @drym4rch0n [If I could just get Firefox on UT I would be set.], time to get porting :^3
[14:13] <ubptgbot> jbriones95 was added by: jbriones95
[14:13] <ubptgbot> NickSin was added by: NickSin
 @Fuseteam [time to get porting :^3], Yeah its at this point in my life that I regret only learning html and css. Trying to learn C right now and then move on to more.
 Hi all I want to add a subForum for Xiaomi Mi A3 at https://forums.ubports.com/category/91/xiaomi .How can i add it?
 Hey everyone, before posting a link to a video I made on OTA 16. I want to ask if that is allowed on the forum. I was referred here from UBPorts Welcome :)
 Thanks for letting me know
 @Sanath [Hi all I want to add a subForum for Xiaomi Mi A3 at https://forums.ubports.com/c …], laurel_sprout?
 @NotKit [laurel_sprout?], yup
 are you the porter for it?
 @drym4rch0n [Yeah its at this point in my life that I regret only learning html and css. Tryi …], if you're learning that's awesome :) packaging doesn't neccesarily require C knowledge fwiw
 @NotKit [are you the porter for it?], no.but have the device.
 yepp, I've packaged all sorts of stuff for distros and I don't know any actual programming languages 😛
 @PiecerEdd [yepp, I've packaged all sorts of stuff for distros and I don't know any actual p …], xD
 @Fuseteam [if you're learning that's awesome :) packaging doesn't neccesarily require C kno …], I'm just using it as a starting point. Going to c++ after that, python, and whatever else I can learn. I want to be able to do more with this stuff.
[14:17] <ubptgbot> Pi_Ra was added by: Pi_Ra
 @PiecerEdd [yepp, I've packaged all sorts of stuff for distros and I don't know any actual p …], [Edit] eyyyy the perfect guy who could package traditional linux applications for ubuntu touch xD
 Wait you can port firebox to UT without programming? Surely it would have been done by now.
 @Fuseteam [eyyyy the perfect guy who could package traditional linux applications for ubunt …], maaaaaaybe, I've never seen how to do .clicks... maybe I should have a bash
 I can think of few issues that prevent it fro being usable. It can be built just fine, but to use Wayland or XWayland at least there are fixes needed in Mir/Lomiri. Then also need to deal with Maliit plugin for VKB support
 [Edit] I can think of few issues that prevent it from being usable. It can be built just fine, but to use Wayland or XWayland at least there are fixes needed in Mir/Lomiri. Then also need to deal with Maliit plugin for VKB support
 @PiecerEdd [maaaaaaybe, I've never seen how to do .clicks... maybe I should have a bash], nice one 😆you can check my repos if you want at https://gitlab.com/xiaofuse i have a bunch of app packaged but not published the secret is in the gitlab-ci file :p most gitlab projects that package clicks have those
 must resist packaging OpenRCT2
 can't have that on my mobile or I'd never ever work again
 @drym4rch0n [Wait you can port firebox to UT without programming? Surely it would have been d …], yes you but its is more complicated due to dependencies and what not, i've tried packaging surf but i landed in a dependency hell
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/6N5zc02o.webp
 you can probably do some cunning tricks to use never libs from focal and ship them in click
 @NotKit [I can think of few issues that prevent it from being usable. It can be built jus …], yeah at least vkb and wayland support will need to be fixed in mir
 [Edit] you can probably do some cunning tricks to use newer libs from focal and ship them in click
 @NotKit [you can probably do some cunning tricks to use newer libs from focal and ship th …], probably i would if i knew how
 the issue i had was more multi arch related i think
 Everyone that likes Firefox should chip in to a pool of money and the first person that makes it happen gets the pool. Nothing against morph, I just like have all of my bookmarks and logins synced on all devices.
 @drym4rch0n [Everyone that likes Firefox should chip in to a pool of money and the first pers …], wellllllll here: https://github.com/ubports/morph-browser/issues/24
 https://youtu.be/ile_QCx7umQ
 @Fuseteam [wellllllll here: https://github.com/ubports/morph-browser/issues/24], Oh that would be nice.
 Mods please remove if inappropriate :)
 @Fuseteam [wellllllll here: https://github.com/ubports/morph-browser/issues/24], this would make me happy! Gnome web can do this as well
 GNOME web is former Epiphany?
 yeah
 @jbriones95 [https://youtu.be/ile_QCx7umQ], nice 👍 I think about porting Halium for my Yandex Phone)
[14:40] <ubptgbot> NilhEx was added by: NilhEx
 @jbriones95 [https://youtu.be/ile_QCx7umQ], Nice Video👍
 Thanks Sanath
 Hope you are able to @NickSin The more devices the better :)
 @jbriones95 [Hope you are able to @NickSin The more devices the better :)], thanks. But I guess, firstly, it will GSI port(
[15:18] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @jbriones95 [https://youtu.be/ile_QCx7umQ], Nice:)
 do firefox also support syncing tabs? … when I read about people looking for bookmarks syncing, I realize I almost don't use bookmarks. I think I'd rather sync my tabs 😄
 yeah firefox does that across its desktop/phone version
 dunno if gnome web supports that too
 @Guillaume Gauvin [you're spamming phone code requests], What?
 *** No Signal - Volla Phone + UT *** … Has anyone noticed that celular signal disappears? Usually fixed by switching between 2G/3G/4G networks.
 @arthurabdulin [*** No Signal - Volla Phone + UT *** … Has anyone noticed that celular signal dis …], Maybe the issue described here: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1629
 @TartanSpartan [Not sure if the fact that this issue was closed with no feedback as to why is go …], I must apologise for this comment, I read the issue on WebTelegram on my M10. It looked like there were no comments on it there. Looking at it again on my laptop, I see the comments loaded and rendered. My bad! :P
 @stkalb [Maybe the issue described here: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1 …], Spot on! Thanks 😊
 Hey UBports team. What livestreaming software are you using for the Q&As?
 iirc they are using streamyard
 Yep, that's the one. https://streamyard.com/
 @dohbee [iirc they are using streamyard], Thank you!
 np
[20:03] <ubptgbot> Adam Sz was added by: Adam Sz
 @Flohack [Sure, MR it please ^^], Done ✌️
[21:11] <ubptgbot> Mark was added by: Mark
 Is there a way to test the vibration motor on the volla phone? Doesnt work on mine or I'm missing something...
 @theBest3000 [Is there a way to test the vibration motor on the volla phone? Doesnt work on mi …], turn on keyboard vibration in keyboard settings. Not sure maybe there are regressions though, we use a new sensor framework
 Could be its a global Halium 9 issue
 Already have. Does not work. Got the phone by mail today. Could be a hardware issue too!? Don't know how to rule this out.
 @theBest3000 [Already have. Does not work. Got the phone by mail today. Could be a hardware is …], well without installing smth else that vibrates (like VollaOS maybe ^^) it wont be conclusive
 you can run the `test_haptic` or whatever i guess?
 ah yes maybe there was a test that should work but best is we get another Vollaphone user here to confirm if vibrator should work ^^
 i mean, i recall someone recently saying the test worked but keyboard press didn't
 @dohbee [i mean, i recall someone recently saying the test worked but keyboard press didn …], Thats clear, keyboard uses usensord and thats not being useful in Android 9 devices
 @TotalSonic can vouch for whether or not it vibrates for VollaOS.
 We did not port it to hfd-service ^^
 Also no virbation on incoming notifications
 @Flohack [Thats clear, keyboard uses usensord and thats not being useful in Android 9 devi …], i guess you have the answer then :P
 I have to excuse ourselves that we dont have the best regression tests on the planet ;)
 Confirmed No keyboard vibration on Volla Phone.
 So vibration should work in QML/Qt apps when you press the back key on upper left
 Only once per app per start though ^^
 @TotalSonic [Confirmed No keyboard vibration on Volla Phone.], Vibrates on mine
 @Flohack [I have to excuse ourselves that we dont have the best regression tests on the pl …], well this would be integration tests we need, really
 Was annoying and I had to turn it off
 @arthurabdulin [Vibrates on mine], Oh, wait, it is pretty subtle - you are correct
 Ok then idk why it works ^^
 It doesnt on other Halium 9 devices
[22:13] <ubptgbot> <Leo Carpenter> Wооw guуs, ТеsІа рumр сrурtо,  Іоок! - https://bit.ly/3p7n9zY
 [Edit] EDIT: Confirmed keyboard vibration.working on Volla Phone.
 Volla is awesome is why ;)
[22:14] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> Maybe to clarify: Vibration works on Vollaphone, but not keyboard vibration... (Just tested right now)
 Very subtle though on this - didn't notice it when typing with some noise going on
 We can extend the vibration time by a setting, and see if we can improve it
 Some devices need that
 @Flohack [Could be its a global Halium 9 issue], text: Global … my mind: Global Menu
 don't be saying that, there'll be posts about how UBPorts is bringing it back thanks to you
 global menu is already there
 @PiecerEdd [don't be saying that, there'll be posts about how UBPorts is bringing it back th …], eh?
 it's already there yeah 👀
 we already brought that back
 just not many, if any apps are using it yet
 [Edit] just not many, if any, apps are using it yet
 it should theoretically work for legacy apps in libertine
 but probably some fixes still needed to ensure that
 probably
 [Edit] probably yeah
 oh well, thanks for ruining my rubbish joke 😛
 :P
 HAH! a rootfs refresh made morph and teleports a lot more snappy
 that should teach me not to mess with the rootfs
 narrator:he's lying he hasn't learn a squat or to squat for that matter
 eyy
 cool someone got the reference
 I take it back - Volla is NOT vibrating on keyboard.
 @Fuseteam [cool someone got the reference], I actually didn't get it, I just thought it was funny anyway 😆
 @arthurabdulin [Was annoying and I had to turn it off], I think you are thinking of "keyboard sound" and not "keyboard vibration"
 [Edit] @FloHack - I take it back - Volla is NOT vibrating on keyboard.
 [Edit] @Flohack - I take it back - Volla is NOT vibrating on keyboard.