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xnoxrbasak:  i don't know; my hunch is that it is not majority of Ubuntu Desktop users. and for the vast majority of them did install on generic kernel.01:23
kenvandineItzSwirlz: here is good, but let's chat tomorrow01:26
ItzSwirlzsure02:34
KGB-1mutter signed tags 7b421a0 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.38.3-2ubuntu1 * mutter Debian release 3.38.3-2ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/chCv04:19
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/master 4f348de Marco Trevisan * pushed 27 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3GGMn04:19
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/master c05815f Kai-Heng Feng src/backends/native/meta-renderer-native.c * renderer/native: Refactor modeset boilerplate into new helpers * https://deb.li/3wdGs04:19
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/master ed1ab1e Kai-Heng Feng src/backends/native/ meta-monitor-manager-kms.c meta-renderer-native.c meta-renderer-native.h * monitor-manager-kms: Disable CRTCs if there is no monitor * https://deb.li/itTWU04:19
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/master d29a0f4 Kai-Heng Feng src/backends/x11/meta-monitor-manager-xrandr.c * monitor-manager-xrandr: Disable CRTCs if there is no monitor * https://deb.li/VRA04:20
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/master feb11d9 Marc-Antoine Perennou clutter/clutter/cally/cally-text.c * clutter: Fix build with clang * https://deb.li/3Ox6i04:20
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/master 429491c Carlos Garnacho src/wayland/meta-wayland-pointer-constraints.c * wayland: Ensure pointer constraint region consistency * https://deb.li/bMv004:20
KGB-1mutter signed tags fa18dfa Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.38.3-2ubuntu0.20.10.1 * mutter Debian release 3.38.3-2ubuntu0.20.10.1 * https://deb.li/3vZt204:20
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/groovy 2766d24 Marco Trevisan * pushed 26 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/hZzs04:20
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/groovy fbb9a34 Jonas Ådahl src/tests/ meson.build test-client.c test-runner.c stacking/modals.metatest * tests/stacking: Add test hiding a modal with a not shown parent * https://deb.li/3CVwU04:20
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/groovy c05815f Kai-Heng Feng src/backends/native/meta-renderer-native.c * renderer/native: Refactor modeset boilerplate into new helpers * https://deb.li/3wdGs04:20
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/groovy ed1ab1e Kai-Heng Feng src/backends/native/ meta-monitor-manager-kms.c meta-renderer-native.c meta-renderer-native.h * monitor-manager-kms: Disable CRTCs if there is no monitor * https://deb.li/itTWU04:20
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/groovy d29a0f4 Kai-Heng Feng src/backends/x11/meta-monitor-manager-xrandr.c * monitor-manager-xrandr: Disable CRTCs if there is no monitor * https://deb.li/VRA04:21
KGB-1mutter ubuntu/groovy feb11d9 Marc-Antoine Perennou clutter/clutter/cally/cally-text.c * clutter: Fix build with clang * https://deb.li/3Ox6i04:21
KGB-1gnome-shell signed tags e73f729 Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.38.3-2ubuntu1 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.38.3-2ubuntu1 * https://deb.li/oJsn04:21
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/master 5a2f2d8 Marco Trevisan * pushed 43 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/36Mr704:21
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/master 02af01c Jonas Ådahl js/ui/workspacesView.js * workspacesView: Update scroll position but not workspace on allocate * https://deb.li/Oc3y04:21
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/master 5d2a28e Kjartan Maraas po/nb.po * Update Norwegian Bokmål translation * https://deb.li/3KMc404:22
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/master 6cfd0e3 Mike Gerow js/gdm/loginDialog.js * loginDialog: Make notListedButton accessible * https://deb.li/vVKM04:22
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/master ec30d73 Ivan Molodetskikh js/ui/workspace.js * workspace: Don't unfreeze layout during overview animation * https://deb.li/3oxyj04:22
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/master 0eb273d Florian Müllner (6 files in 5 dirs) * Bump version to 3.38.3 * https://deb.li/SOON04:22
KGB-1gnome-shell signed tags e19bbef Marco Trevisan ubuntu/3.38.3-2ubuntu0.20.10.1 * gnome-shell Debian release 3.38.3-2ubuntu0.20.10.1 * https://deb.li/3bJGx04:22
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy f454259 Marco Trevisan * pushed 42 commits (first 5 follow) * https://deb.li/3gZCg04:22
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy bade6b1 LuK1337 src/shell-screenshot.c * screenshot: Grab screenshot during paint on X11 for area type too * https://deb.li/ix8Ml04:22
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy 02af01c Jonas Ådahl js/ui/workspacesView.js * workspacesView: Update scroll position but not workspace on allocate * https://deb.li/Oc3y04:22
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy 5d2a28e Kjartan Maraas po/nb.po * Update Norwegian Bokmål translation * https://deb.li/3KMc404:22
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy 6cfd0e3 Mike Gerow js/gdm/loginDialog.js * loginDialog: Make notListedButton accessible * https://deb.li/vVKM04:23
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/groovy ec30d73 Ivan Molodetskikh js/ui/workspace.js * workspace: Don't unfreeze layout during overview animation * https://deb.li/3oxyj04:23
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/focal cfc861e Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ (7 files) * debian/patches: Correctly handle login cancellation and failures * https://deb.li/fJME05:07
KGB-1gnome-shell ubuntu/focal 83aaf97 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) debian/patches/ (10 files) * debian/patches: Show errors on fingerprint failures and limit retries * https://deb.li/3YMRe05:07
oSoMoNgood morning desktoppers06:47
dufluMorning oSoMoN 06:56
oSoMoNhey duflu 07:02
didrocksgood morning07:22
oSoMoNsalut didrocks 07:24
didrockssalut oSoMoN, ça va ?07:24
dufluMorning didrocks 07:29
oSoMoNdidrocks, c’est le rush comme souvent le matin, mais sinon ça va, et toi?07:31
didrockshey duflu 07:36
didrocksoSoMoN: ça va, vacances d’hiver, mais Martin se gère pas mal tout seul :)07:36
marcustomlinsonmorning oSoMoN duflu didrocks999 08:17
didrocks999hey marcustomlinson 08:17
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dufluHi marcustomlinson 08:26
seb128goood morning desktopers08:38
marcustomlinsonhey seb12808:38
didrockssalut seb128 08:38
dufluHi seb128 08:40
seb128hey marcustomlinson, didrocks, duflu , how are you?08:47
marcustomlinsondoing alright thanks seb128. you?08:47
oSoMoNgood morning marcustomlinson, seb128 08:48
seb128lut oSoMoN, comment ça va ?08:48
dufluseb128, sore but OK. You?08:49
didrocksI’m fine, thanks, and you?08:49
seb128marcustomlinson, doing ok, a bit mentaly exhausted by the lockdown and trying to work with constant noise and interruptions08:49
Laney\o09:02
dufluHi Laney09:02
marcustomlinsonhey Laney, snowy down there?09:04
marcustomlinsonseb128: indeed :/09:05
didrockshey Laney 09:06
Laneyhey duflu marcustomlinson didrocks 09:06
Laneya bit, like an icing sugar dusting09:07
marcustomlinsonyum...09:07
seb128hey Laney, how are you?09:08
ricotzgood morning desktopers09:10
marcustomlinsonhey ricotz09:11
seb128hey ricotz, how are you?09:12
seb128Trevinho, kenvandine, weekly discourse summary!09:12
ricotzhey marcustomlinson seb128 09:13
ricotzseb128, feeling a bit cold ;P09:13
seb128did you get snow at your place?09:13
ricotzyeah a lot in the last days09:14
Laneyhey seb128 ricotz 09:15
Laneyyeah alright, same as all the other days :p09:15
ricotz-20°C isnt required though :P09:16
oSoMoNgood morning Laney, ricotz 09:16
dufluHi ricotz 09:17
dufluseb128, it's possible Marco just went to bed ;)09:18
dufluA few hours ago09:18
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KGB-0gnome-control-center signed tags 5cc11c4 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/1%3.38.3-1ubuntu2 * gnome-control-center Debian release 1:3.38.3-1ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/382El10:47
luna_hey10:47
KGB-0gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 5f1eb14 Sebastien Bacher debian/ changelog patches/series patches/ubuntu_restore_sharing.patch * https://deb.li/H28M10:47
KGB-0* debian/patches/ubuntu_restore_sharing.patch:10:47
KGB-0  - remove the patch bringing back the vino desktop sharing since10:47
KGB-0    gnome-remote-desktop support is enabled in Ubuntu now10:47
KGB-0gnome-control-center ubuntu/master f21fc17 Sebastien Bacher debian/ changelog patches/series patches/git_fingerprint_improvements.patch * backport fingerprint improvements made by Treviño * https://deb.li/3Sblj10:47
KGB-0gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 15b31b9 Sebastien Bacher debian/ (6 files) * Remove user config migration script which was needed until focal * https://deb.li/Nrg410:47
KGB-0gnome-control-center ubuntu/master 008abc5 Sebastien Bacher debian/changelog * upload to ubuntu * https://deb.li/igBID10:47
luna_will miss the meeting today as i have another colliding meeting11:46
ItzSwirlz 13:14
ItzSwirlzseb128, marcustomlinson, ricotz \o/13:34
ItzSwirlzIs snowing in NYC metro.13:34
seb128hey ItzSwirlz!13:34
ItzSwirlzkenvandine: So soon I will apply for PPU to maybe get Ubuntu Cinnamon Remix to flavor status, and I want to do a yaru theme branch. While the yaru repo is huge, the yaru.dart repo is much smaller and I was wondering instead of hosting an individual repo to merge later, just create a branch I can push to for cinnamon, although I'm not an official Ubuntu member and this in Canonical repo and until I'm a member Canonic13:36
ItzSwirlzal won't care about me.,13:36
ItzSwirlzI think for now I'll keep it hosted at https://github.com/Ubuntu-Cinnamon-Remix/yarucinnamon.dart because of this, but thoughts?13:37
marcustomlinsonItzSwirlz: noice :)13:38
kenvandineItzSwirlz: cool!  Yeah, I think it makes more sense to publish it separately14:12
ItzSwirlzand then merge it later ofc14:13
kenvandineItzSwirlz: well, i think you would want to publish it to pub.dev as a separate package14:13
ItzSwirlzhm.. good point14:14
kenvandinethis isn't exactly a theme... the app developer has to opt into using it14:14
ItzSwirlz🤔️14:14
ItzSwirlzI'll look into uploading to pub14:14
ItzSwirlz(you may have to do this again with Wimpress so.. wink wink)14:14
KGB-0gnome-settings-daemon signed tags 5b49e19 Sebastien Bacher ubuntu/3.38.1-3ubuntu2 * gnome-settings-daemon Debian release 3.38.1-3ubuntu2 * https://deb.li/3HHa714:27
KGB-0gnome-settings-daemon ubuntu/master 9723f6c Sebastien Bacher debian/ changelog patches/series patches/ubuntu_vino_handling.patch * https://deb.li/VwJU14:27
KGB-0* debian/patches/ubuntu_vino_handling.patch:14:27
KGB-0  - remove the patch bringing back the vino desktop sharing since14:27
KGB-0    gnome-remote-desktop support is enabled in Ubuntu now14:27
KGB-0gnome-settings-daemon ubuntu/master dbdbd49 Sebastien Bacher debian/changelog * upload to ubuntu * https://deb.li/3NIpF14:27
seb128kenvandine, meeting? ;-)14:31
kenvandineoh hey, sorry :)14:31
kenvandinemeeting time!14:31
seb128hey! :-)14:31
didrocks999hey14:31
kenvandinegive me 1 minute :)14:31
oSoMoNgood morning kenvandine14:31
kenvandine#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2021-02-0914:32
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kenvandine#startmeeting Desktop Team Weekly Meeting - 2020-09-0114:33
kenvandineRoll call:  didrocks, duflu (out), jamesh (out), jibel, kenvandine, laney, marcustomlinson, oSoMoN, seb128 (out), tkamppeter, trevinho, robert_ancell (out), hellsworth (out)14:33
seb128_o/14:33
marcustomlinson\o14:33
kenvandinewhoops, seb wasn't out :)14:33
oSoMoN\o14:33
jibel_o_14:34
seb128how dare you! :p14:34
kenvandinecopy and paste bug :)14:34
kenvandineDo we want to start with hh or bb?14:34
jibelI propose a vote14:35
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seb128we usually start by oldest, are you suggesting we change the order?14:35
seb128you are in charge so a call you can make :-)14:35
kenvandinemy template starts with hh :)14:35
kenvandinebut i know we usually start with the older14:35
kenvandineoldest14:35
seb128either is fine14:35
kenvandinei prefer current devel first :)14:35
kenvandineok :)14:35
seb128let's do that then :)14:36
didrocksmaybe use a random map like Go is enforcing in the runtime? :)14:36
kenvandinelol14:36
kenvandine#topic rls-hh-bugs14:36
seb128or pick one in each section rotating?14:36
kenvandinehttp://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html14:36
seb128(is it troll friday yet?)14:36
didrocks(looks like it :p)14:36
oSoMoNI'm tired like a Friday, so it's plausible14:37
kenvandinei guess bug 1861006 is on here because it's champagne?14:37
ubot5bug 1861006 in pidgin (Ubuntu) "After upgrade to 20.04, notifications not working as expected" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/186100614:38
seb128yes14:38
seb128that's an old one though, you are picking outside our section :-)14:38
kenvandinehasn't been touched in ages... 14:38
kenvandineyeah, i was skimming the unknown14:38
kenvandinenothing else to worry about on incoming14:39
kenvandinetracking seems fine too14:40
kenvandine#topic rls-gg-bugs14:40
kenvandinenot in our section, but we might care14:41
kenvandinebug 189796514:41
ubot5bug 1897965 in pipewire (Ubuntu) "PulseAudio doesn't work when pipewire is installed (ie. KDE)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189796514:41
kenvandinei wonder if that effects gnome on hh14:41
kenvandinei guess we'll wait and see if it effects a broader user base14:44
seb128could be fixed with https://salsa.debian.org/utopia-team/pipewire/-/commit/e9d1bbdc14:44
seb128which is in hirsute14:44
seb128but yeah, we should check and we will probably hear about it if it's an issue14:46
kenvandinetracking looks fine 14:46
kenvandine#topic rls-ff-bugs14:46
kenvandinebug 191486814:47
ubot5bug 1914868 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "gnome-software-dev doesn't contain all the header files in /usr/include/gnome-software" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191486814:47
kenvandineprobably an easy fix14:48
kenvandineany takers?14:48
oSoMoNlooks like it, I can give it a go14:48
kenvandinethanks14:48
kenvandinei think that's it for ff-incoming14:49
seb128oSoMoN, kenvandine, I would vote -1 for that being a rls issue14:50
seb128just for the record14:50
kenvandinewell, it effects users wanting to build plugins14:50
seb128being able to build out of source gnome-software plugins isn't really something going to hit users14:50
kenvandinebut yeah, it won't effect many people14:50
seb128well, rls is important no?14:51
kenvandinetrue14:51
oSoMoNseb128, I'm fine with that, I can put it on my list of non-urgent things to look at later14:51
* kenvandine still thinks it's worth fixing if we can easily14:51
kenvandinetkamppeter_: can you handle the SRUs for bug 189796514:51
ubot5bug 1897965 in pipewire (Ubuntu) "PulseAudio doesn't work when pipewire is installed (ie. KDE)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189796514:51
seb128it seems fixed in H at least14:51
seb128gnome-software-dev:amd64: /usr/include/gnome-software/gs-app-collation.h14:51
kenvandinewhoops14:51
kenvandinewrong bug14:52
kenvandinetkamppeter_: can you handle the SRUs for bug 188337014:52
ubot5bug 1883370 in system-config-printer (Ubuntu Groovy) "system-config-printer hangs when trying to change driver" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/188337014:52
seb128oSoMoN, k, I personally wouldn't go through SRU for that change only but if you feel like it's worth the effort on you and the SRU team I will not stop you14:52
oSoMoNseb128, if it's an easy fix it's probably worth it, but with low priority and no pressure on the SRU team of course14:53
kenvandinei think everything else on ff-tracking seems fine14:53
kenvandine#topic rls-bb-bugs14:54
kenvandinenothing on bb-incoming14:54
kenvandinebb-tracking seems good as well14:55
kenvandine#topic update_excuses_by_team.html#desktop-packages14:55
kenvandineLaney: anything to raise?14:56
Laneysorry I've not looked yet, busy with a little fire14:57
Laneymaybe seb128 has14:57
seb128let me check14:57
kenvandineglade seems to be holding some things up14:57
seb128but it's currently not a manageable list due to the new glibc and i386 being borken for some reason14:57
seb128glade is down to the transition oSoMoN is trying to get through14:58
oSoMoNglade should be migrating soon14:58
kenvandinegreat14:58
LaneyI think I saw a glibc that was meant to fix that14:58
kenvandinethat will get libhandy and some others moving14:58
Laneynot sure how it showed up though14:58
Laneylike if things need retrying or what14:58
seb128I will retry one and see if that fixes things, thanks for the hint14:59
kenvandinecool, thanks14:59
kenvandine#topic aob14:59
seb128nothing from me15:00
didrocksnothing either15:00
oSoMoNnothing here15:00
Laneyget ready to test ISOs is all I can say15:00
Laney;-)15:00
kenvandineyeah, i think everyone needs to spend some time on ISO testing :)15:01
kenvandineok, that's a wrap then.  thanks all!15:01
kenvandine#endmeeting15:01
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oSoMoNthanks!15:02
didrocksthx15:02
seb128thanks kenvandine !15:03
marcustomlinsonthanks15:03
seb128didrocks, I'm not really familiar with -fprofile-use, how problematic is it that some profiles are not available (context of libdeflate)15:55
seb128didrocks, it sounds like some functions are just missing from the optimization profile which should be a no-op, just no optimization applied?15:57
seb128didrocks, I reported the warning to Debian but I'm unsure if that's expected if that function didn't collect data and normal or if it's a bug...15:57
didrocksseb128: correct (in addition that I think as it’s a lib, it impact any binary that links at build-dep against it), reporting is enough IMHO for that one15:58
seb128didrocks, I'm not familiar with that option, I was just reading a bit about it, isnt it just optimization applied to the code when compiling?15:59
seb128I'm not sure to understand how it bubble down to binaries using the lib?15:59
didrocksthe tests are reporting it, but it can be that it just statically compiled the lib15:59
didrocksI didn’t check how they are linked against it15:59
didrocksbut you are probably right15:59
didrocks(the other things that always concerns me with those warnings and that any new warnings won’t get noticed when building)16:00
seb128right16:01
seb128well I reported it to Debian, since they are the ones adding those flags to debian/rules16:01
seb128let's see what they say16:01
didrocksand the MIR time is the best time to got those fixed, because you know how it goes later on… (same than debian/copyright)16:01
didrocksyeah16:01
jibelLaney, I added you for a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~jibel/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity-1/+merge/397742. It's something wanted before FF.16:29
Laneyjibel: cheers, will review!16:33
seb128jibel, Laney, speaking about ubiquity review, could one of you see what needs to be done on https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/+git/ubiquity/+merge/376777 ? do we need to ping Mario about it? (we have a trello card untouched for almost a year)16:37
seb128xnox, ^ or you, seems you proposed to fix and merge for him on the MP, does that still stand?16:38
Laneylooks like pipewire stuff needs promoting for gnome-shell / mutter17:43
Laneylemme do this17:43
LaneyTrevinho: it is done, hopefully will go soon18:03
Trevinhonice18:03
luna_https://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apt/news/20210209T104825Z.html new apt18:04
KGB-2gnome-control-center ubuntu/master Marco Trevisan * [open] merge request !20: display: Better KMS backend fractional scaling handling * https://deb.li/iQnlE19:17
Trevinhoseb128: ^19:17
seb128Trevinho, thanks20:01
TrevinhoLaney: wondering..... by dropping ubuntu-wayland session not sure we should actually have a settings migration? Or the settings for such session would be lost...20:10
Laneywhat settings?20:16
TrevinhoLaney: well some settings are per user session no?20:16
LaneyTrevinho: Can't think of any20:17
Trevinhogsettings mostly are... Like I noticed I had disabled extensions in my wayland g-s while they were not in the ubuntu session...20:17
LaneyI think that's20:17
Laneyorg.gnome.shell enabled-extensions ['clock-override@gnomeshell.kryogenix.org', 'blyr@yozoon.dev.gmail.com', 'user-theme@gnome-shell-extensions.gcampax.github.com', 'word-clock@emmanuelebassi.name', 'BingWallpaper@ineffable-gmail.com', 'desktop-icons@csoriano']20:17
Laneybtw we should ship word-clock by default20:18
Trevinho:)20:18
Trevinhobtw I had only changed the global toggle20:19
Trevinhonot the list of extensions20:19
TrevinhoXDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP should matter for gsettings, isn't it?20:19
LaneyI don't know how it can be per session20:19
Laneyyou can have defaults like that20:20
Laneybut once changed, I think they become global20:20
Laneyalso the xdg current desktop won't change20:20
Laneydata/ubuntu-wayland.desktop.in.in:DesktopNames=ubuntu:GNOME20:21
Laneydata/ubuntu.desktop.in.in:DesktopNames=ubuntu:GNOME20:21
Trevinhomhmh, oook maybe I had only compared gnome session vs ubuntu?20:21
Trevinhoyeah, fair enough20:22
TrevinhoI might have just compared that with a gnome session then... 20:22
Laneybut in general, I think we should preserve settings as far as possible yeah20:22
LaneyI just expect most of that to already happen :>20:22
Trevinhobetter...20:22
TrevinhoI will push g-s later if I've time20:22
Laneyyay20:23
Laneyexciting isn't it!20:23
Trevinhoyep :D20:26
TrevinhoLaney: this https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-session/-/blob/debian/master/debian/patches/debian/Make-sure-to-pass-systemd-when-we-re-managing-the-user-se.patch could be dropped no?20:26
TrevinhoLaney: and also the upstart case can die on https://salsa.debian.org/gnome-team/gnome-session/-/blob/ubuntu/master/debian/patches/ubuntu/add_sessionmigration.patch I assume20:29
chef_tripgreetings everyone. i'm having trouble getting to a GUI after installing proprietary graphics drivers(ubuntu 20.10). is this a good place to seek help for this problem? googling hasn't helped23:05
guivercchef_trip, try the #ubuntu support room, this room isn't for support23:18
chef_tripok thanks23:30

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