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| cpaelzer | hiho | 15:28 |
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| cpaelzer | ok, let us get this started | 15:30 |
| cpaelzer | #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status | 15:30 |
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| cpaelzer | doko: ddstreet: sarnold: jamespage: didrocks: hiho - ping for MIR team meeting | 15:30 |
| didrocks | hey | 15:30 |
| ddstreet | o/ | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Review of previous action items | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: had the action to convert the discussion on when to subscribe to a mail | 15:31 |
| cpaelzer | I've not seen anything yet, so this is still open | 15:32 |
| didrocks | yeah, sorry, was quite busy with too many things and this dropped out | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | the rest were bug reivew assignments which I've mostyl seen happen | 15:32 |
| didrocks | will do it for sure in the coming days | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | doko: did the rpi-userland case get reviewed by now ? | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/raspberrypi-userland/+bug/1895137 ? | 15:32 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1895137 in rpi-eeprom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rpi-eeprom; raspberrypi-userland" [Undecided,In progress] | 15:32 |
| cpaelzer | you mentioned last week that you forgot but wanted to get to it | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | it still is open | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | so I thought I ping you again doko | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | waveform: ^^ could I ask you to team-internally nudge doko until he gets to it :-) ? | 15:33 |
| sarnold | good morning | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | that was old actions | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | let us get to mismatches | 15:33 |
| doko | sorry, otp | 15:33 |
| cpaelzer | no doko, reply later when you have time to read the log | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | #topic current component mismatches | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | no new cases in here | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg | 15:34 |
| cpaelzer | libmd and libinih got bugs/bug-updates which we will see later | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | I did miss one task of last week myself, the clarification of libfcgi | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | let me put this back on top of my desk here ... | 15:35 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pipewire/+bug/1802533 is ready right? | 15:36 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1802533 in pipewire (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pipewire" [Low,In progress] | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | just waiting for some desktop'ish upload | 15:36 |
| didrocks | exactly | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | and yeah other than that (to me) mismatches seems all like known old cases | 15:36 |
| cpaelzer | I did myself get three resolved this week | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | and have seen others get some completed as well | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | so here things are slightly more calm | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | bugs are different thou | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | going on ... | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | #topic New MIRs | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:37 |
| cpaelzer | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinih/+bug/1883890 looks mostly ready | 15:38 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1883890 in libinih (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libinih" [Undecided,New] | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: it seems we have a MIR ack and a conditional security ack that is now fulfilled | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | didrocks: since it is desktop related, would you take a look if all is indeed in place | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | including the subscription ... :-) | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | and if so I think you can promote it | 15:38 |
| didrocks | will do, and ofc the subscription :) | 15:38 |
| cpaelzer | awesome | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | next is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashrom/+bug/1912371 | 15:39 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1912371 in flashrom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flashrom" [Undecided,New] | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | So to me it seems that is now meant to enter review | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | anyone volunteering for some flashrom deep dive? | 15:39 |
| cpaelzer | we have two more to assign, so everyone will get a share :-) | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | I've this week done two that flew by already - I can take one more | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | but not the toher two as well | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | I'm taking flashrom | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | next is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libbsd/+bug/1915009 | 15:40 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1915009 in libmd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmd (dependency of libbsd)" [High,Incomplete] | 15:40 |
| cpaelzer | opened by doko | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | and having some updates by mclemenceau | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | I guess that means foundation wants it | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | but the bug is really not complete | 15:41 |
| didrocks | unsure why 2 tasks on it? | 15:41 |
| didrocks | yeah, description is missing | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | one for the source and one for the actual MIR | 15:41 |
| cpaelzer | I agree that libbsd has no reason to have a task here | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | mclemenceau: or doko: would you make this into a proper state and set it back to new then? | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | I've updated the bug states | 15:42 |
| mclemenceau | will do | 15:42 |
| ddstreet | i already have iniparser, it looks like mtd-utils is listed in the same bug, but it's already in main | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | thanks mdeslaur | 15:42 |
| ddstreet | i haven't got to iniparser yet but will this week | 15:42 |
| cpaelzer | thanks ddstreet, yeah I see your assignment | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | ok all assigned | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Incomplete bugs / questions | 15:43 |
| cpaelzer | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir | 15:43 |
| didrocks | nothing new it seems? | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | Two bugs waiting for input, but nothing new | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | #topic Any other business? | 15:44 |
| sarnold | none from me | 15:44 |
| didrocks | nothing here | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | The time for Feature Freeze closes, I know everyone is even more busy than usual. But pelase try to get a chance to do the reviews | 15:44 |
| cpaelzer | They are a few hours for you, but might block a Team/Task without them having any chance to do something about the situation | 15:45 |
| cpaelzer | hmm, yeah that is it then I guess | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | anything else? | 15:46 |
| didrocks | just to thank you for the quick and effective meeting leads :) | 15:46 |
| sarnold | :) | 15:46 |
| cpaelzer | Thank you | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | Then I'll give all of you 13 minutes back and see you next week ... | 15:47 |
| sarnold | thanks cpaelzer, all :) | 15:47 |
| didrocks | o/ | 15:47 |
| cpaelzer | #endmeeting | 15:47 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 15:47:44 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-02-09-15.30.moin.txt | 15:47 |
| didrocks | have a good week of reviews :) | 15:47 |
| ddstreet | o/ | 15:47 |
| doko | ddstreet: I'm always addint the package pulling into main as a task. that way it shows up for the owning teams | 16:03 |
| ddstreet | ah ok thanks | 16:03 |
| mdeslaur | \o | 19:57 |
| rbasak | #startmeeting Technical Board | 20:00 |
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| rbasak | o/ | 20:00 |
| rbasak | Anyone else here? | 20:01 |
| mdeslaur | o/ | 20:02 |
| rbasak | Apart from mdeslaur :) | 20:02 |
| mdeslaur | \o | 20:02 |
| mdeslaur | *crickets* | 20:02 |
| mdeslaur | cyphermox: wake up | 20:02 |
| cyphermox | I'm there | 20:03 |
| cyphermox | nobody sent apologies in advance afaik? | 20:04 |
| * vorlon waves | 20:04 | |
| rbasak | o/ | 20:04 |
| rbasak | We're quorate then I think? | 20:04 |
| rbasak | #topic Apologies | 20:05 |
| rbasak | #info Present: mdeslaur, vorlon, cyphermox | 20:05 |
| rbasak | #info No apologies in advance received | 20:05 |
| rbasak | #topic Action review | 20:05 |
| rbasak | Hmm | 20:05 |
| rbasak | Does this thing work? | 20:05 |
| rbasak | ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. | 20:05 |
| rbasak | Carry over I guess? | 20:06 |
| mdeslaur | for now | 20:06 |
| cyphermox | never much feedback, except maybe topic should have shown something | 20:06 |
| rbasak | #action Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. | 20:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns. | 20:06 |
| rbasak | ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. | 20:06 |
| cyphermox | rbasak: you were missing startmeeting | 20:06 |
| vorlon | carry over :/ | 20:06 |
| rbasak | #action vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. | 20:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance. | 20:06 |
| rbasak | #action ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: ^ | 20:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: ^ | 20:06 |
| cyphermox | nevermind me | 20:06 |
| rbasak | ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list | 20:07 |
| vorlon | also carryover | 20:07 |
| rbasak | #action vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list | 20:07 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list | 20:07 |
| rbasak | ACTION: xnox to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which vorlon, infinity, and mdeslaur will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step ([2/3 subquorum required if one of us slacks, to avoid holding up the process]) | 20:07 |
| rbasak | Carry over I guess. | 20:08 |
| mdeslaur | wasn't there a second part to that? | 20:08 |
| mdeslaur | someone was supposed to follow up on it? | 20:08 |
| cyphermox | yes | 20:08 |
| rbasak | Not that I see in the agenda | 20:08 |
| cyphermox | next item, isn't it? | 20:08 |
| mdeslaur | yeah, next line of the agenda | 20:08 |
| rbasak | Ah | 20:09 |
| rbasak | ACTION: sil2100 to follow up with xnox about OEM archive documentation | 20:09 |
| rbasak | He's not here, so I guess they both need carrying over | 20:09 |
| rbasak | I guess I should drop infinity from the action :-( | 20:09 |
| rbasak | #action xnox to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which vorlon and mdeslaur will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step ([2/3 subquorum required if one of us slacks, to avoid holding up the process]) | 20:09 |
| meetingology | ACTION: xnox to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which vorlon and mdeslaur will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step ([2/3 subquorum required if one of us slacks, to avoid holding up the process]) | 20:09 |
| rbasak | #action ACTION: sil2100 to follow up with xnox about OEM archive documentation | 20:10 |
| meetingology | ACTION: ACTION: sil2100 to follow up with xnox about OEM archive documentation | 20:10 |
| mdeslaur | :( | 20:10 |
| rbasak | (DONE) ACTION: mdeslaur to follow up on xnox's track clarification post to the list from 2020-08-12 | 20:10 |
| rbasak | \o/ | 20:10 |
| rbasak | (DONE) ACTION: cyphermox to respond to Mario's SRU exception request, this is handed back to the SRU team. | 20:10 |
| rbasak | \o/ | 20:10 |
| cyphermox | yup | 20:10 |
| rbasak | ACTION: vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22) | 20:10 |
| vorlon | carryover | 20:10 |
| rbasak | I wrote to the list, so maybe we could treat that as done, unless vorlon wants to add anything? | 20:10 |
| vorlon | oh let me re-read quickly | 20:10 |
| cyphermox | not opposed to it; this was in relation with vorlon's thoughts on thunderbird we agreed on last meeting | 20:11 |
| vorlon | nah still carry-over | 20:11 |
| cyphermox | ok | 20:11 |
| rbasak | #action vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22) | 20:11 |
| meetingology | ACTION: vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22) | 20:11 |
| rbasak | I did wonder whether to quote the justification you mentioned in the last meeting FWIW, but figured I'd leave that to you if you wanted | 20:11 |
| rbasak | (DONE) ACTION: teward / community council to update TB mailing list "About" section with agreed upon wording | 20:11 |
| rbasak | \o/ | 20:11 |
| rbasak | Thanks teward! | 20:11 |
| rbasak | ACTION: rbasak to write up proposal for how to do decision documentation for the future | 20:12 |
| mdeslaur | hey, for the track clarification post from 2020-08-12, could others +1 it, and I'll make sure someone actually does the change? | 20:12 |
| rbasak | I've just about finished a draft but haven't posted it yet, so I'll carry this over, but it should be done today | 20:12 |
| rbasak | #action rbasak to write up proposal for how to do decision documentation for the future | 20:12 |
| meetingology | ACTION: rbasak to write up proposal for how to do decision documentation for the future | 20:12 |
| cyphermox | mdeslaur: ack | 20:13 |
| rbasak | mdeslaur: OK I'll take a look too | 20:13 |
| rbasak | (DONE) ACTION: cyphermox to pester the release team before next meeting about documentation for the HWE changes in focal. | 20:13 |
| rbasak | \o/ | 20:13 |
| cyphermox | if I may | 20:13 |
| rbasak | I saw that land in Discourse. Thank you! | 20:13 |
| cyphermox | I asked sil2100 and indeed, it's in discourse | 20:14 |
| cyphermox | https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/improvements-for-hardware-support-in-ubuntu-desktop-installation-media/20606 | 20:14 |
| cyphermox | ^ for posterity | 20:14 |
| rbasak | #info The HWE changes in Focal got documented in Discourse | 20:14 |
| rbasak | #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/improvements-for-hardware-support-in-ubuntu-desktop-installation-media/20606 | 20:14 |
| rbasak | Thanks! | 20:14 |
| rbasak | That's the end of the action topic. | 20:14 |
| cyphermox | rbasak with the solid bot game ;) | 20:14 |
| rbasak | I let the minutes write themselves :-) | 20:15 |
| rbasak | #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item) | 20:15 |
| rbasak | I don't see anything. | 20:15 |
| rbasak | #info No missed mailing list posts spotted | 20:15 |
| rbasak | #topic Check up on community bugs (standing item) | 20:16 |
| rbasak | #info | 20:16 |
| rbasak | There are currently no open bugs. | 20:16 |
| rbasak | #info There are currently no open bugs. | 20:16 |
| rbasak | #topic Select a chair for the next meeting | 20:16 |
| rbasak | #info Next chair will be vorlon, with sil2100 as backup | 20:17 |
| rbasak | #topic AOB | 20:17 |
| rbasak | Anyone have anything to bring up? | 20:17 |
| mdeslaur | I have nothing | 20:17 |
| rbasak | #info Nothing raised | 20:17 |
| rbasak | #endmeeting | 20:17 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended at 20:17:55 UTC. Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-02-09-20.00.moin.txt | 20:17 |
| rbasak | Thanks all. Quick meeting! :) | 20:18 |
| mdeslaur | thanks rbasak, thanks everyone | 20:18 |
| vorlon | thanks! | 20:18 |
| cyphermox | o/ | 20:18 |
| rbasak | mdeslaur: ah. "mdeslaur to follow up on xnox's track clarification post to the list from 2020-08-12" was listed in the agenda as done. I guess given your comment that's wrong? | 20:21 |
| xnox | why am i highlight so much. | 20:23 |
| xnox | rbasak: re track clarification => there was a nod of approval from mdeslaur on the techboard mailing list, and I edited the seededsnaps wiki page as per wording suggested on the mailing list by me originally. So i think it is done. | 20:24 |
| xnox | rbasak: re: oem archive stuff. the emails i sent to the techboard in 2019 still stand as the current implementation. we have enough examples in the archive now to word policy precisely. | 20:24 |
| xnox | not sure how to best do it, i guess will start a google doc which will end up the wiki page policy. | 20:25 |
| rbasak | OK, thanks for the update! | 20:25 |
| rbasak | I'm not sure how to incorporate that. Maybe I'll refer to the log in the next meeting, so we can consult with other TB members then (it's a bit tricky for me because I wasn't paying close enough attention as I wasn't on the TB back then!) | 20:26 |
| mdeslaur | xnox: oh! cool, thanks | 20:27 |
| mdeslaur | xnox: we highlight you because we like you | 20:27 |
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