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[15:28] <cpaelzer> hiho
[15:30] <cpaelzer> ok, let us get this started
[15:30] <cpaelzer> #startmeeting Weekly Main Inclusion Requests status
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[15:30] <cpaelzer> doko: ddstreet: sarnold: jamespage: didrocks: hiho - ping for MIR team meeting
[15:30] <didrocks> hey
[15:31] <ddstreet> o/
[15:31] <cpaelzer> #topic Review of previous action items
[15:31] <cpaelzer> didrocks: had the action to convert the discussion on when to subscribe to a mail
[15:32] <cpaelzer> I've not seen anything yet, so this is still open
[15:32] <didrocks> yeah, sorry, was quite busy with too many things and this dropped out
[15:32] <cpaelzer> the rest were bug reivew assignments which I've mostyl seen happen
[15:32] <didrocks> will do it for sure in the coming days
[15:32] <cpaelzer> doko: did the rpi-userland case get reviewed by now ?
[15:32] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/raspberrypi-userland/+bug/1895137 ?
[15:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1895137 in rpi-eeprom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] rpi-eeprom; raspberrypi-userland" [Undecided,In progress]
[15:33] <cpaelzer> you mentioned last week that you forgot but wanted to get to it
[15:33] <cpaelzer> it still is open
[15:33] <cpaelzer> so I thought I ping you again doko
[15:33] <cpaelzer> waveform: ^^ could I ask you to team-internally nudge doko until he gets to it :-) ?
[15:33] <sarnold> good morning
[15:33] <cpaelzer> that was old actions
[15:33] <cpaelzer> let us get to mismatches
[15:33] <doko> sorry, otp
[15:34] <cpaelzer> no doko, reply later when you have time to read the log
[15:34] <cpaelzer> #topic current component mismatches
[15:34] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.svg
[15:34] <cpaelzer> no new cases in here
[15:34] <cpaelzer> #link https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches-proposed.svg
[15:35] <cpaelzer> libmd and libinih got bugs/bug-updates which we will see later
[15:35] <cpaelzer> I did miss one task of last week myself, the clarification of libfcgi
[15:35] <cpaelzer> let me put this back on top of my desk here ...
[15:36] <cpaelzer> didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pipewire/+bug/1802533 is ready right?
[15:36] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1802533 in pipewire (Ubuntu) "[MIR] pipewire" [Low,In progress]
[15:36] <cpaelzer> just waiting for some desktop'ish upload
[15:36] <didrocks> exactly
[15:36] <cpaelzer> and yeah other than that (to me) mismatches seems all like known old cases
[15:37] <cpaelzer> I did myself get three resolved this week
[15:37] <cpaelzer> and have seen others get some completed as well
[15:37] <cpaelzer> so here things are slightly more calm
[15:37] <cpaelzer> bugs are different thou
[15:37] <cpaelzer> going on ...
[15:37] <cpaelzer> #topic New MIRs
[15:37] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=NEW&assignee_option=none&field.assignee=&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:38] <cpaelzer> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libinih/+bug/1883890 looks mostly ready
[15:38] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1883890 in libinih (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libinih" [Undecided,New]
[15:38] <cpaelzer> didrocks: it seems we have a MIR ack and a conditional security ack that is now fulfilled
[15:38] <cpaelzer> didrocks: since it is desktop related, would you take a look if all is indeed in place
[15:38] <cpaelzer> including the subscription ... :-)
[15:38] <cpaelzer> and if so I think you can promote it
[15:38] <didrocks> will do, and ofc the subscription :)
[15:39] <cpaelzer> awesome
[15:39] <cpaelzer> next is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/flashrom/+bug/1912371
[15:39] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1912371 in flashrom (Ubuntu) "[MIR] flashrom" [Undecided,New]
[15:39] <cpaelzer> So to me it seems that is now meant to enter review
[15:39] <cpaelzer> anyone volunteering for some flashrom deep dive?
[15:40] <cpaelzer> we have two more to assign, so everyone will get a share :-)
[15:40] <cpaelzer> I've this week done two that flew by already - I can take one more
[15:40] <cpaelzer> but not the toher two as well
[15:40] <cpaelzer> I'm taking flashrom
[15:40] <cpaelzer> next is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libbsd/+bug/1915009
[15:40] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1915009 in libmd (Ubuntu) "[MIR] libmd (dependency of libbsd)" [High,Incomplete]
[15:41] <cpaelzer> opened by doko
[15:41] <cpaelzer> and having some updates by mclemenceau
[15:41] <cpaelzer> I guess that means foundation wants it
[15:41] <cpaelzer> but the bug is really not complete
[15:41] <didrocks> unsure why 2 tasks on it?
[15:41] <didrocks> yeah, description is missing
[15:41] <cpaelzer> one for the source and one for the actual MIR
[15:42] <cpaelzer> I agree that libbsd has no reason to have a task here
[15:42] <cpaelzer> mclemenceau: or doko: would you make this into a proper state and set it back to new then?
[15:42] <cpaelzer> I've updated the bug states
[15:42] <mclemenceau> will do
[15:42] <ddstreet> i already have iniparser, it looks like mtd-utils is listed in the same bug, but it's already in main
[15:42] <cpaelzer> thanks mdeslaur
[15:42] <ddstreet> i haven't got to iniparser yet but will this week
[15:43] <cpaelzer> thanks ddstreet, yeah I see your assignment
[15:43] <cpaelzer> ok all assigned
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #topic Incomplete bugs / questions
[15:43] <cpaelzer> #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/?field.searchtext=&orderby=-date_last_updated&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.subscriber=ubuntu-mir
[15:44] <didrocks> nothing new it seems?
[15:44] <cpaelzer> Two bugs waiting for input, but nothing new
[15:44] <cpaelzer> #topic Any other business?
[15:44] <sarnold> none from me
[15:44] <didrocks> nothing here
[15:44] <cpaelzer> The time for Feature Freeze closes, I know everyone is even more busy than usual. But pelase try to get a chance to do the reviews
[15:45] <cpaelzer> They are a few hours for you, but might block a Team/Task without them having any chance to do something about the situation
[15:46] <cpaelzer> hmm, yeah that is it then I guess
[15:46] <cpaelzer> anything else?
[15:46] <didrocks> just to thank you for the quick and effective meeting leads :)
[15:46] <sarnold> :)
[15:47] <cpaelzer> Thank you
[15:47] <cpaelzer> Then I'll give all of you 13 minutes back and see you next week ...
[15:47] <sarnold> thanks cpaelzer, all :)
[15:47] <didrocks> o/
[15:47] <cpaelzer> #endmeeting
[15:47] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 15:47:44 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-02-09-15.30.moin.txt
[15:47] <didrocks> have a good week of reviews :)
[15:47] <ddstreet> o/
[16:03] <doko> ddstreet: I'm always addint the package pulling into main as a task. that way it shows up for the owning teams
[16:03] <ddstreet> ah ok thanks
[19:57] <mdeslaur> \o
[20:00] <rbasak> #startmeeting Technical Board
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[20:00] <rbasak> o/
[20:01] <rbasak> Anyone else here?
[20:02] <mdeslaur> o/
[20:02] <rbasak> Apart from mdeslaur :)
[20:02] <mdeslaur> \o
[20:02] <mdeslaur> *crickets*
[20:02] <mdeslaur> cyphermox: wake up
[20:03] <cyphermox> I'm there
[20:04] <cyphermox> nobody sent apologies in advance afaik?
[20:04]  * vorlon waves
[20:04] <rbasak> o/
[20:04] <rbasak> We're quorate then I think?
[20:05] <rbasak> #topic Apologies
[20:05] <rbasak> #info Present: mdeslaur, vorlon, cyphermox
[20:05] <rbasak> #info No apologies in advance received
[20:05] <rbasak> #topic Action review
[20:05] <rbasak> Hmm
[20:05] <rbasak> Does this thing work?
[20:05] <rbasak> ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns.
[20:06] <rbasak> Carry over I guess?
[20:06] <mdeslaur> for now
[20:06] <cyphermox> never much feedback, except maybe topic should have shown something
[20:06] <rbasak> #action Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns.
[20:06] <meetingology> ACTION: Wimpress To follow-up on-list with design review to address MATE Boutique security/consent concerns.
[20:06] <rbasak> ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance.
[20:06] <cyphermox> rbasak: you were missing startmeeting
[20:06] <vorlon> carry over :/
[20:06] <rbasak> #action vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance.
[20:06] <meetingology> ACTION: vorlon to circle around with store, snapcraft, et all, and revise the snap source revision policy to be more clear with regards to rebuildability and GPL compliance.
[20:06] <rbasak> #action ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: ^
[20:06] <meetingology> ACTION: ACTION: formal ratification of third party seeded snap security policy, depends on: ^
[20:06] <cyphermox> nevermind me
[20:07] <rbasak> ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list
[20:07] <vorlon> also carryover
[20:07] <rbasak> #action vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list
[20:07] <meetingology> ACTION: vorlon to reply to seeded snap upload permissions question on list
[20:07] <rbasak> ACTION: xnox to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which vorlon, infinity, and mdeslaur will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step ([2/3 subquorum required if one of us slacks, to avoid holding up the process])
[20:08] <rbasak> Carry over I guess.
[20:08] <mdeslaur> wasn't there a second part to that?
[20:08] <mdeslaur> someone was supposed to follow up on it?
[20:08] <cyphermox> yes
[20:08] <rbasak> Not that I see in the agenda
[20:08] <cyphermox> next item, isn't it?
[20:08] <mdeslaur> yeah, next line of the agenda
[20:09] <rbasak> Ah
[20:09] <rbasak> ACTION: sil2100 to follow up with xnox about OEM archive documentation
[20:09] <rbasak> He's not here, so I guess they both need carrying over
[20:09] <rbasak> I guess I should drop infinity from the action :-(
[20:09] <rbasak> #action xnox to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which vorlon and mdeslaur will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step ([2/3 subquorum required if one of us slacks, to avoid holding up the process])
[20:09] <meetingology> ACTION: xnox to start a draft summarizing the OEM archive portion of the meeting which vorlon and mdeslaur will review, edit, and ratify before we move on to figuring out the next step ([2/3 subquorum required if one of us slacks, to avoid holding up the process])
[20:10] <rbasak> #action ACTION: sil2100 to follow up with xnox about OEM archive documentation
[20:10] <meetingology> ACTION: ACTION: sil2100 to follow up with xnox about OEM archive documentation
[20:10] <mdeslaur> :(
[20:10] <rbasak> (DONE) ACTION: mdeslaur to follow up on xnox's track clarification post to the list from 2020-08-12
[20:10] <rbasak> \o/
[20:10] <rbasak> (DONE) ACTION: cyphermox to respond to Mario's SRU exception request, this is handed back to the SRU team.
[20:10] <rbasak> \o/
[20:10] <cyphermox> yup
[20:10] <rbasak> ACTION: vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22)
[20:10] <vorlon> carryover
[20:10] <rbasak> I wrote to the list, so maybe we could treat that as done, unless vorlon wants to add anything?
[20:10] <vorlon> oh let me re-read quickly
[20:11] <cyphermox> not opposed to it; this was in relation with vorlon's thoughts on thunderbird we agreed on last meeting
[20:11] <vorlon> nah still carry-over
[20:11] <cyphermox> ok
[20:11] <rbasak> #action vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22)
[20:11] <meetingology> ACTION: vorlon to update the list for Thunderbird update (https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2021/01/26/%23ubuntu-meeting.html#t20:22)
[20:11] <rbasak> I did wonder whether to quote the justification you mentioned in the last meeting FWIW, but figured I'd leave that to you if you wanted
[20:11] <rbasak> (DONE) ACTION: teward / community council to update TB mailing list "About" section with agreed upon wording
[20:11] <rbasak> \o/
[20:11] <rbasak> Thanks teward!
[20:12] <rbasak> ACTION: rbasak to write up proposal for how to do decision documentation for the future
[20:12] <mdeslaur> hey, for the track clarification post from 2020-08-12, could others +1 it, and I'll make sure someone actually does the change?
[20:12] <rbasak> I've just about finished a draft but haven't posted it yet, so I'll carry this over, but it should be done today
[20:12] <rbasak> #action rbasak to write up proposal for how to do decision documentation for the future
[20:12] <meetingology> ACTION: rbasak to write up proposal for how to do decision documentation for the future
[20:13] <cyphermox> mdeslaur: ack
[20:13] <rbasak> mdeslaur: OK I'll take a look too
[20:13] <rbasak> (DONE) ACTION: cyphermox to pester the release team before next meeting about documentation for the HWE changes in focal.
[20:13] <rbasak> \o/
[20:13] <cyphermox> if I may
[20:13] <rbasak> I saw that land in Discourse. Thank you!
[20:14] <cyphermox> I asked sil2100 and indeed, it's in discourse
[20:14] <cyphermox> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/improvements-for-hardware-support-in-ubuntu-desktop-installation-media/20606
[20:14] <cyphermox> ^ for posterity
[20:14] <rbasak> #info The HWE changes in Focal got documented in Discourse
[20:14] <rbasak> #link https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/improvements-for-hardware-support-in-ubuntu-desktop-installation-media/20606
[20:14] <rbasak> Thanks!
[20:14] <rbasak> That's the end of the action topic.
[20:14] <cyphermox> rbasak with the solid bot game ;)
[20:15] <rbasak> I let the minutes write themselves :-)
[20:15] <rbasak> #topic Scan the mailing list archive for anything we missed (standing item)
[20:15] <rbasak> I don't see anything.
[20:15] <rbasak> #info No missed mailing list posts spotted
[20:16] <rbasak> #topic Check up on community bugs (standing item)
[20:16] <rbasak> #info
[20:16] <rbasak> There are currently no open bugs.
[20:16] <rbasak> #info There are currently no open bugs.
[20:16] <rbasak> #topic Select a chair for the next meeting
[20:17] <rbasak> #info Next chair will be vorlon, with sil2100 as backup
[20:17] <rbasak> #topic AOB
[20:17] <rbasak> Anyone have anything to bring up?
[20:17] <mdeslaur> I have nothing
[20:17] <rbasak> #info Nothing raised
[20:17] <rbasak> #endmeeting
[20:17] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 20:17:55 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-02-09-20.00.moin.txt
[20:18] <rbasak> Thanks all. Quick meeting! :)
[20:18] <mdeslaur> thanks rbasak, thanks everyone
[20:18] <vorlon> thanks!
[20:18] <cyphermox> o/
[20:21] <rbasak> mdeslaur: ah. "mdeslaur to follow up on xnox's track clarification post to the list from 2020-08-12" was listed in the agenda as done. I guess given your comment that's wrong?
[20:23] <xnox> why am i highlight so much.
[20:24] <xnox> rbasak:  re track clarification => there was a nod of approval from mdeslaur on the techboard mailing list, and I edited the seededsnaps wiki page as per wording suggested on the mailing list by me originally. So i think it is done.
[20:24] <xnox> rbasak:  re: oem archive stuff. the emails i sent to the techboard in 2019 still stand as the current implementation. we have enough examples in the archive now to word policy precisely.
[20:25] <xnox> not sure how to best do it, i guess will start a google doc which will end up the wiki page policy.
[20:25] <rbasak> OK, thanks for the update!
[20:26] <rbasak> I'm not sure how to incorporate that. Maybe I'll refer to the log in the next meeting, so we can consult with other TB members then (it's a bit tricky for me because I wasn't paying close enough attention as I wasn't on the TB back then!)
[20:27] <mdeslaur> xnox: oh! cool, thanks
[20:27] <mdeslaur> xnox: we highlight you because we like you