[00:49] I've been running into this problem the last few months (mentioned it here a few times) but its not a big enough issue to really dig into. My external webcam on ubuntu desktop becomes unavailable after something like 24 hours. A restart fixes it, so it's easy enough to deal with. But browsers, zoom, cheese, etc can't see the device after a while. Any ideas how I should try to debug this, in order to even === BrianG61UK__ is now known as BrianG61UK_ [00:49] start a bug report? Is video a certain part of the kernel, or a certain log I should check out? The other issue is I usually notice it is no longer available a good while after it becomes unavailable [00:50] jayjo-: jayjo- https://askubuntu.com/a/1161074 [00:51] oh wow that looks promising === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [01:00] I'm about to restart, and things will work for a bit, but I'll guess we'll find out in a few days :) I'm changing /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend to -1 ... it was 2 before [01:00] jayjo-: btw that file reflects only *runtime* status -- it won't persist across the reboot [01:01] jayjo-: does unplugging and replugging the device work? [01:03] no, unplugging/replugging doesn't seem to help [01:04] what is "2" for usbcore autosuspend? the askubuntu page recommends -1 to disable. Is that in a kernel doc? [01:07] hi [01:07] I'm guessing that '2' means 2 seconds, based on the 'autosuspend=5' part of https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/usb/power-management.txt [01:07] i915.modeset=0 got blank screen [01:07] why? [01:09] 'elo [01:10] I'm _pretty_ sure that my old ass ubuntu 16 machine loses its (wired) connection to my router very regularly, each day in the night. [01:11] I then have to go physically to the machine (which is supposed to be headless) and click among the network connections and chose the wired one and it gets back up on its feet again and everything is copacetic. [01:11] I have other machines running in the same LAN which dont exhibit the same thing (not the exact same ubuntu version though). Whats the first thing i want to investigate to find the reason for this problem? [01:13] sybariten: are there any messages in dmesg or the log files that may report why the link changes state? [01:14] sarnold: yeah i dont know which log files are best to attack to be honest :) [01:15] sybariten: does any of your networking infrastructure have enough logging to let you know if another device on the network is acting oddly? perhaps something else comes up with the same IP address or same MAC address, or perhaps your system sends so many error packets the switch gives up on the port or something? [01:17] Hmmmmmm i wouldn't _think_ so, i have a pretty limited number of devices, they all tend to keep the same IP's although its DHCP. I have a strong feeling this is down to this machine only. I just need to know what to investigate [01:25] sybariten: ip -stats link show [01:27] xamua: https://termbin.com/gakx [01:30] nothing too crazy there. a few dropped packets [01:32] ok [01:38] journalctl -u NetworkManger might give you some hints [01:42] 16.04, probably no systemctl [01:42] err journalctl [01:45] i do have that tool as it seems [01:45] literally like that, or NetworkManager? [01:45] heh does it work? :) [01:45] NetworkManager [01:46] it spits out a lot of stuff from january 22 until today [01:49] if i do 'pip install foobar' I shouldn't run into problems should i? [01:49] as far as pkg conflicts with apt or dependancy resolution or whatever? [01:49] someone told me not to use pip to install python pkgs... that might of been on manjaro though? i cant remember [01:50] will pip install somepkg mess with a ubuntu install ? [01:50] sybariten: journalctl -u NetworkManager --since yesterday [01:51] you can specify a time range using --since and --until as well [01:52] InZaneGamer84: it'd be worth researching a bit more; I don't know python world real well but I think I've heard that a plain pip install will overwrite packaged things, and that it'd be best to stick to using pip from within virtualenvs or something similar [01:54] xamua: aha aha... what am i seeing, more or less? https://pastebin.com/raw/pdBLpYB9 [01:55] sarnold: that's distressing! I'm not familiar with virtualenvs but I guess I'm fixing to be [01:55] dam [01:56] sybariten: so, since it looks like it hasn't dropped recently, you'll want to run that same command after it drops again to see if it offers any hints as to why [01:58] xamua: how do you mean? On the machine when the connection is actually dropped (is out), or just after i have reconnected after the next drop out? [01:59] after the next drop [02:00] alternatively, scroll through all the logs since 22 Jan looking for the last disconnect [02:00] using --since and --until to narrow it down [02:02] xamua: aha aha... thanks === zbenjamin is now known as Guest3976 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin [02:37] any deja dup backup gui experts in here? [02:42] best to ask your specific issue to the channel henry8 so volunteers can think along [02:43] ok... [02:43] looks like deja dup version 42.7 no longer uses duplicity... [02:44] recently upgraded deja dup, sometimes need to use duplicity via command line and it's no longer on my system after upgrading deja dup [02:45] !info deja-dup [02:45] deja-dup (source: deja-dup): Backup utility. In component main, is optional. Version 40.7-0ubuntu1 (focal), package size 263 kB, installed size 1504 kB [02:45] wondering if others have similar experience [02:46] henry8: are you on 20.04 and how did you upgrade deja-dup? [02:46] yeah, 20.04 [02:47] 40.7 is what you should have then henry8 [02:47] my original deja dup software was freezing before finishing restore so i tried uninstalling and reinstalling via app store [02:48] it actually ended up being a snap.io version 42.7 [02:48] ah ok, you're on snap? [02:49] yeah, didn't realize until finished downloading and thought i'd give it a try [02:49] henry8: you can contact the community/dev for issues here; https://discourse.gnome.org/tags/c/applications/7/deja-dup [02:50] thanks, appreciated [02:50] henry8: for non-canonical snaps we cant help much as they are externally maintained [02:50] thinking of trying a different backup option... no totally happy with deja dup... any recommendations? [02:51] sure [02:51] !borg [02:51] borg is a fast backup tool with incremental backups: https://www.borgbackup.org/ (Ubuntu packages: borgbackup, borgbackup-doc, and borgmatic) [02:51] this seems to be popular these days [02:51] nice, thanks, i'll check it out [03:30] Hello everyone. I have a quick question. I upgraded my CPU from an i7-3930k (HEDT) to Xeon, and when I booted up my system, a couple apps stopped working and I am getting an error: "sudo: unable to resolve host *hostname*: Name or service not known" Any ideas on how to fix/reconfigure? [03:34] Qen-Joana: Try this: https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-change-hostname-on-ubuntu-18-04-bionic-beaver-linux . [03:44] I will try that! First, I will restart my PC. I suspect this may be more than just an issue with the hostname, though, likely a problem with machine ID? BRB. [03:45] Qen-Joana: End result we want the system to match up with /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files. [03:46] Qen-Joana: End result we want the system to match up with /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname files. === mIk3_09 is now known as mIk3_08 [03:53] sarnold: is there a proper way to search installed packages [03:54] i want to remove unused packages [03:54] but also want to check for possible dependency issues [03:55] Bashing-om: I seem to have resolved one symptom of the problem by adding in an entry for my supposed-hostname to the hosts file... does this sound like a bad idea? The sudo commands are working now, though. [03:56] pi0: dpkg -l | grep ^ii will show you what's installed [03:56] pi0: apt purge packagename will immediately the purge the package if nothing depends upon it; it'll suggest what else needs to be removed, in case something else depends upon that package [03:57] pi0: the orphaner tool can help you find packages that nothing else depends upon; be careful with this one though [04:02] orphaner i will google that one [04:02] nice [04:02] thank you [04:04] Qen-Joana: I have always done so "manually"; hostnamectl is a systemd thing. [04:07] sarnold: when compiling within linux, and you will be using the make -j [04:07] were do you obtain the proper numbers? is there a cat /proc/something? [04:14] Bashing-om: Do you mean that I need to go through that linked page again and try to do it correctly? ;) [04:16] Qen-Joana: Naw - if the two files match I would suggest just run 'sudo hostnamectl set-hostname ' for cheap insurance. [04:19] Bashing-om: I just did that command and nothing broke, so thank you! [04:20] Qen-Joana: Glad-it-helps :D [04:33] anyone here? [04:33] ’fraid so [04:35] I am on 20.04.2 [04:37] anyone know how to resolve kernel issues? [04:38] what kernel issue? [04:39] swear000: Depends - what kernel - uname -r - are you running - there remains a few issues with the 5.8 series kernels. [04:40] 5.8.0-43-generic [04:42] !info linux-generic-hwe-20.04 [04:42] They made a lot of changes and there are many bugs. I added some basic parameters to get the kernel to boot. I have a lot of errors that need addressing. [04:42] linux-generic-hwe-20.04 (source: linux-meta-hwe-5.8): Complete Generic Linux kernel and headers. In component main, is optional. Version 5.8.0.43.49~20.04.29 (focal), package size 1 kB, installed size 18 kB (Only available for amd64; armhf; arm64; powerpc; ppc64el; s390x) [04:50] what is tracker miner and why does it say: Unable to get XDG user directory path for special directory [04:52] hey [04:52] hi [04:53] hi [04:54] swear000: some GNOME file indexer [04:54] swear000: it was looking for some freedesktop-specified directory and didn't find it; probably irrelevant to most everything [04:57] true a lot of journal messages are harmless but I want to get as many as I can sorted out quickly. I still have to recompile the kernel after getting the journal log cleared [05:02] I think Xwayland is responsible for a lot of these. I have no idea why they decided to add SNAP packages either. I am running Ubuntu because it is still more stable and secure than Windows and better than most Distributions I have tried [05:03] have used ubuntu on a dev [05:04] dedicated desktop hardware for a couple of years for pms, nas, etc. [05:05] can i achieve this similutanously on Windows 10 with WSL or VituralBox? [05:05] It's a nice distro and more stable than most. I just want to get rid of the journal spam [05:06] swear000: ok I gotta pine in. Ubuntu is not more stable than Debian stable [05:06] some parents are crazy when the kids are sane though.... [05:06] hmmm [05:07] I replaced my Windows 10 with UBUNTU because, although I can run WSL, windows still has too much bloatware [05:07] swear000: preaching to the choir man [05:07] I used Debian in college. [05:08] and it's only going to get worse with win10x [05:08] I though Ubuntu was based on debian [05:08] ms has lost touch with their users [05:08] it is [05:08] it's technically derived from debian [05:08] that makes ubuntu the child and debian the parent [05:09] im using kubuntu which is derived from ubuntu. i love kde plasma. dislike ubuntu's DE [05:09] my introduction to linux was ubuntu 10.10 and I left ubuntu when they switched their DE from gnome 2 to what they have now. [05:10] i don't like gnome 3 [05:10] conr: what are you trying to achieve? [05:10] I am not a big fan of GNOME myself but it is the default. [05:11] thus i defaulted to another distro lol [05:11] kde plasma is nice! win 10 DE is way behind [05:11] UBUNTU is the only one that I can use secure boot with [05:11] turn secure boot off! [05:11] InZaneGamer84: im building a gaming pc with windows10 but would like to move my unbuntu box to virtually run on win10. [05:12] conr: easy. so you wanna run ubuntu inside a vm? [05:12] conr: imo a vm instance will provide a more 'complete' experience than WSL [05:12] correct. just wondering what works best for 24/7. wsl, virtualbox? [05:12] I can toggle off secure boot but then I get an error about no operating system [05:13] conr: are you a developer? dev on linux? [05:13] swear000: do you have more than one hdd? [05:13] InZaneGamer84: yes but i have a mac for that [05:13] no it is a laptop [05:13] conr: then you don't need WSL crap. use virtualbox [05:14] i just want ubuntu for pms, nas, openvpn [05:14] conr: it's a 'premiere' experience [05:14] conr: a vm instance is perfect for u [05:14] swear000: dual booting on uefi secure boot is doable but .... complex? [05:14] InZaneGamer84: ive used vbox before on mac. nice. its it pretty stable? [05:15] conr: lol indeed. rock solid [05:15] conr: you need to configure the vm correctly though for a linux guest [05:15] InZaneGamer84: should i use debian instead of ubuntu? [05:15] I tried dual booting but it is pointless. I either need to run Windows or a Linux that supports my hardware [05:16] conr: it won't matter really. try both [05:16] conr: use ubuntu or debian stable [05:16] swear000: what kind of laptop do you have? [05:16] InZaneGamer84: does vbox have access to networking or file drives? [05:16] conr: of course! [05:16] Acer aspire v 15 [05:17] swear000: you have to properly partition your hdd. GPT UEFI [05:17] swear000: do you want to dual boot or give the whole hdd to ubuntu? [05:17] conr: virtualbox has good documentation. peruse it [05:18] The whole drive is UBUNTU and it is LUKS encrypted [05:18] swear000: and why are you using encryption? are you going to have sensitive data on the drive? [05:18] swear000: that just adds another layer of complexity to properly setting up the disk so it will boot [05:18] yes I am in healthcare [05:18] oh [05:19] swear000: one min i will find you a good page [05:19] swear000: me too [05:19] nice [05:19] it healthcare [05:19] good place to be [05:21] * InZaneGamer84 bows [05:21] thank you for your service! [05:21] swear000: https://askubuntu.com/questions/927924/how-to-install-ubuntu-in-uefi-mode [05:22] swear000: you must create an EFI 100MB partition for uefi boot [05:22] yes I know. I am running it now. [05:24] I am just getting messages like: Getting invalid resource scale property [05:24] , error in livepatch check state: check-failed, reference to undefined property "MetaWindowXwayland" [05:24] , gkr-pam: unable to locate daemon control file [05:24] , etc. [05:24] swear000: where is that coming from? [05:25] InZaneGamer84: can you explain what linux guests are! [05:25] ? [05:25] conr: yes [05:25] you have a 'host' which is the OS that is running the VM. Or running the virtual box program. In your case the host is windows [05:25] the 'guest' is the VM [05:26] in your case, a linux 'guest' [05:26] the 'guest' is what's being emulated [05:26] journalctl -b -0 shows the errors mostly from init scripts and Wayland and GNOME [05:26] ok simple [05:27] conr: yup [05:27] swear000: what kind of gpu chipset is in your laptop? [05:27] Intel HD Graphics 5500 [05:27] swear000: is hardware acceleration enabled for your DE? it's not running in software mode is it [05:27] swear000: no issues with drivers? [05:30] i2c_hid: probe of i2c-ELAN0501:00 failed with error -22 from touchpad and thermalzone error from iwlwifi but it does work [05:31] swear000: run this 'sudo apt-get install inxi' then 'inxi -D' and paste output [05:31] swear000: inxi -G not D [05:31] sorry [05:31] Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel [05:31] Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.9 driver: fbdev unloaded: modesetting,vesa [05:31] resolution: 1366x768~60Hz [05:31] OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.2.6 [05:32] swear000: one min [05:32] swear000: which version of ubuntu are you running? [05:33] 20.04.2 [05:33] k hold on [05:33] you're good [05:33] driver is loaded as i915 [05:34] yes the system works but it there are just small technical issues to iron out [05:34] swear000: is there any lag when you drag windows around? [05:36] not really. A few glitches sometimes. The system hung earlier today but the kernel just got updated [05:37] swear000: i'm not so sure you firmware is loaded for that gpu [05:37] swear000: run 'lsmod | grep 'intel' paste output [05:38] btintel 28672 1 btusb [05:38] bluetooth 577536 11 btrtl,btintel,btbcm,bnep,btusb [05:38] intel_rapl_msr 20480 0 [05:38] intel_rapl_common 28672 1 intel_rapl_msr [05:38] intel_powerclamp 20480 0 [05:38] snd_hda_intel 53248 4 [05:38] don't flood [05:38] you're gonna get kicked [05:38] paste to a pastie [05:38] a site [05:39] any good site? [05:39] bpaste.org [05:40] i don't see the gpu firmware loaded [05:40] you know the 'additional drivers' app or whatever? [05:40] ya [05:41] open that up and paste a screenshot [05:41] ill give u a link [05:41] It says no additional drivers available [05:41] hmm [05:41] one sec [05:42] I don't think it is like NVIDIA or AMD [05:43] I would probably have to work with xorg or the framebuffer [05:43] do 'sudo prime-select intel' [05:43] yeah it's different [05:43] bpaste.org [05:43] bpaste.net i mean [05:43] its late im sleepy [05:44] prime-select command not found [05:45] type 'intel' and hit tab. what comes up [05:46] intel-virtual-output [05:46] i still don't think your desktop is in hardware acceleration mode [05:46] im looking [05:49] open up system settings and go to software and updates [05:49] you see a drivers tab? [05:50] on second thought i think the intel drivers are in the kernel [05:50] you said you updated the kernel? [05:50] the new kernel has bugs in it im hearing [05:50] so idk [05:52] yes the new kernel is buggy. Once I clear the journal of errors, I will recompile and be able to use some features. Get some rest and thanks for checking [05:53] np === LabMonkey is now known as Mechanismus === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 [08:17] Kiwis and Australians of #ubuntu [08:18] If i'm logging in remotely with ssh, should I be creating just one keypair for myself and reusing it, or making one keypair for each device like i've been doing [08:18] literally awakened in the middle of the night by this thought [08:33] I regularly lose connection to my BT speaker and when I do (usually after leaving my laptop on for the night), Ubuntu loses the abilty to see any devices in a scan [08:33] How can I fix this? === tnewman4 is now known as tnewman [09:07] Hi how to check Moherboard board chipset series and chipset number are exists in my system? theoritically I have Intel B 365 [09:09] couldn't login just now, login password box showed a spinning wheel next to it forever [09:14] Good Morning [09:34] Hi, I'm getting this error (corrupted cache) when running apt update. I tried apt clean and deleting /var/lib/apt/lists/* but it's still there. How can I fix? The error: https://dpaste.org/pnqg [09:35] I also tried deleting the mentioned file (/var/lib/dpkg/status) but got an error so I put it back. [09:35] an error that the file was missing, that is. [10:02] Am I doing anything wrong when i try to mount this samba share or is it really a permission error ? https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9qQVFxMkND/ === bettencb1 is now known as bettencb [10:22] when I leave chromium over night and come back it decides it can't connect to the internet. chromium is currently in that state [10:22] is this a known problem and what I can I do? [10:38] anyone have/use a lenovo ultra dock? [11:04] lesshaste, use chrome [11:05] gebbione, hmm [11:20] does firefox release a damn update every other day? [11:20] they need to stop [11:22] InZaneGamer84: this is the ubuntu support channel, not the complaints channel [11:22] lotuspsychje: indeed! [11:23] !discuss [11:23] Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks! [11:23] #firefox [11:23] whoops === msalvatore_ is now known as msalvatore [11:40] can someone help me understand why I've lost WRITE access on all my disks? drive topology > https://bpa.st/LW5Q === calcmandan_ is now known as calcmandan [12:45] with scp, can I copy a remote directory into an existing local directory without it creating a sub-directory? e.g. something like; scp -r remote:/foo/bar ./output without it creating output/bar? [12:48] Hi folks [12:49] Hello [12:49] I am trying to downgrade the kernel but I cant [12:49] I did sudo apt remove linux-image-5.4.0-65-generic linux-headers-5.4.0-65 [12:50] but on reboot uname -a is sitll 5.4.0-65-generic [12:54] masterkorp, try sudo apt-get remove --purge 5.4.0-65, if that's your real issue. [12:55] tried, aftter a reboot it sill boots onto 5.4.0-65 [12:55] or sudo apt remove --purge 5.4.0-65 [13:04] masterkorp, first of all why are you trying to downgrade? [13:05] chilversc: maybe if "output" doesnt exist, havent tried it though [13:14] BluesKaj amdgpu pro drivers wont work [13:14] I need to bot to an older kernel [13:18] the xserver-xorg-video-amdgpu driver is the probly the correct driver if the gpu is one of these families, Bonaire, Hawaii, Kaveri, Kabini Mullins, Iceland, Tonga, Carrizo, Fiji, Stoney. [13:19] yeah, opencl is broken on those, all I want is to downgrade now [13:23] masterkorp, it doesn't matter what you want, it's what you need that will work, downgrading a kernel is rather drastic [13:24] yes it is, i've been wat this for 2 days [13:24] https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/can-t-install-amdgpu-drivers-on-ubuntu-20-04-1-5-4-0-56-generic/td-p/426676/page/8 [13:24] here is proof [13:26] https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/amdgpu-20-40-fails-on-fresh-install-of-ubuntu-20-04-1/m-p/439978 [13:26] more proff [13:27] https://community.amd.com/t5/drivers-software/amdgpu-20-40-fails-on-fresh-install-of-ubuntu-20-04-1/m-p/439978 [13:34] whynot install one of kernels that will work rather than removing the current one, then remove it after you're sure the new one works === billybigrigger0 is now known as billybigrigger [13:54] System fails to notice speakers plugged in, how to fix? [13:58] EriC^^: yeah, if it doesn't exist it works fine, I just wanted it to be easily repeatable without needing to delete the output folder first [14:01] chilversc: you could always use rsync, rsync -av /dir/ /output would copy the contents only (because of the trailing "/" after dir) [14:12] Will 20.10 ever get this commit backported to it's NM? https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/NetworkManager/NetworkManager/-/commit/4ddfc5c14b6f82d802988332d92a7e05b18d1ff0 This breaks VPN clients that set their DNS directly via systemd-resolved. [14:14] emilsp: do you have an ubuntu bug ID about this? [14:32] lotuspsychje: I do not, and I think I can't find a relevant one, should I create one? [14:33] emilsp: if you want the devs to debug something, i would consider find en existing ID and affect yourself, or create a new one [14:34] emilsp: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager browse here for the existing ones [14:34] I'm already looking at those :) [14:34] great [14:46] emilsp: thank you to file bug #1915153 [14:46] bug 1915153 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "NetworkManager will change DNS config via systemd-resolved of unmanaged interfaces" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1915153 [14:46] I was troubleshooting a problem with mail until I tried the same on centos/arch with no problem. Basically, the mail/mailx packages from mailutils have slightly changed (ie -A instead of -a for attachement -a is now append header). Problem is mail delivery works but when I include an attachment although it gets there fine I lose the body. I can't find anything about that. [14:46] I get the body just fine if I remove the attachment [14:46] emilsp: could you also run: apport-collect 1915153 from a terminal please [14:46] in both cases mail delivery occurs successfully [14:49] lotuspsychje: will do, thanks for the tip :) [14:51] emilsp: thank you, the devs will be able to debug better with all logs pulled into the bug [15:04] emilsp: if you find a second user to affect your bug, it will get auto confirmed and get more attention, tnx for the apport collect [15:07] can someone tell me what is round robin chain? [15:08] newlinux^: in what context? [15:08] proxychains [15:44] lotuspsychje: lots of our users have been complaining about this, but I'm not entirely sure if it'd be right to direct them to this bug. [15:46] emilsp: well im sure the devs will also look upstream, see whats next to proceed, the user heat cant do much harm [15:46] fair, will do. [16:05] Greetings... Is there something with the 20.04.2 server installer that won't install as EFI? This is a machine that had 18.04 on it, in EFI mode.. but the 20.04.2 installer seems to want a BIOS boot partition [16:25] Annoyed, maybe this is relevant, https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PTPdwFhk6H/ [16:27] BluesKaj: they said it was only for the desktop flavors, no mention of the servers [16:28] Maik, ok [16:29] yeah, doesn't seem relevant... It installs and boots, but in BIOS mode, not EFI [16:29] do you have secure boot or fast boot enabled? [16:30] I just created a new installer USB using Rufus, rather than pendrive linux.. something I read says that works better [16:31] rufus isn't recommended afaik. BalenaEtcher is used often though. [16:33] must be a setting missed, rufus.. i don't like it either https://rufus.ie/pics/rufus_en.png [16:33] 2 settings actually [16:33] 2nd as shown, bios or uefi [16:34] hi I installaed a snap package, I want to stop a running snap program how do I do it? [16:34] Fast boot is off, don't know about secure.. will look at that if this attempt fails [16:35] ennozdd, can you explain what snap you want to stop? [16:35] is systemctl stop snapd.nextcloud.* a good idea? [16:35] it's nextcloud [16:35] Ahh! it seems to have been the pendrive / Rufus.. Rufus seems to be doing it with the EFI bootg [16:38] heh.. but the installer seems to choke on adding a GPT partition to the RAID 0 array [16:39] oerheks: oh shit, "snap stop nextcloud" did the trick :) [16:40] good find, i was reading sudo systemctl stop/disable snap.nextcloud.apache [16:40] yeah, dont use systemctl with snaps directly [16:41] snap stop/start/logs/etc [16:41] ogra, agreed, not easy to find with nextcloud manual [16:41] (see "snap help" for more) [16:42] https://github.com/nextcloud/nextcloud-snap has some nextcloud specific info too [16:42] * oerheks bookmarks [16:42] Oh, well, I can set up the RAID later.. If I can get the thing installed and booting correctly [16:44] ogra: can I ask you a question, I need help with deployment of two programs [16:44] ogra: I want to set up tiny tiny rss and nextcloud on my 1gb ram vps, but each program wants to listen on port 80 [16:45] should I look for docker containers or snap packages? or maybe reverse proxy? [16:46] reverse proxy, edge reverse proxy like traefik [16:46] Anyone got an idea about long time (2 min+) network setup? "A start job is running for Wait for Network" seems to be no time limit? Takes 2 min, 7 seconds [16:46] Get that during bootup [16:46] ennozdd, the previous message was for you [16:48] ennozdd, well, docker wont help you, tere is only one port 80 on the host ... cant you just chnage the app config to listen on 81 or some such ? [16:50] ennozdd, i.e. see the link that i posted above, it tells you you can change the default port of nextcloud with: sudo snap set nextcloud ports.http=81 [16:50] ogra: I just checked for ttrss snap but it doesn't even exists unfortunately [16:50] ennozdd, https://github.com/nextcloud/nextcloud-snap for completeness ... [16:53] Yep, that was it.. Gotta use Rufus to create the installer USB [17:04] ogra: that's a good workaround but there will be 3 web servers running. port numbers can be confusing. I'd prefer something like cloud/adguard/ttrss.example.com/ so I guess I'll go docker way and set up a reverse proxy [17:05] I hope docker won't eat up all the ram I got [17:09] How can you check the status of an apt update/upgrade running in the background? [17:09] ie the automatic ones started by the os itself [17:09] not a manually started apt [17:10] pikapika: tail -f /var/log/dpkg.log [17:10] ennozdd, good luck ! [17:11] How can you check the status of an apt update/upgrade running in the background? [17:11] ie the automatic ones started by the os itself [17:11] not a manually started apt [17:11] (I think my last messages hadn't reached) [17:11] pikapika: leftyfb answered you: tail -f /var/log/dpkg.log [17:13] tail /var/log/unattended-upgrades/unattended-upgrades-dpkg.log , but leftyfb's answer should do too [17:13] leftyfb, already checked that file [17:13] Seems it hasn't flushed the present logs to disk yet [17:13] ThinkT510, yes thank you [17:13] pikapika: that's not how it works. It's realtime. [17:14] pikapika: if you don't see something in that log, then the package hasn't been upgraded yet [17:14] But as I said, I think it hasn't flushed the new entries yet [17:14] Because the last entry it shows is from a few days ago [17:14] pikapika: as I said, that's not how it works, it's realime [17:15] pikapika: then nothing has been installed or upgraded in a few days [17:15] pikapika: or your system is broken or not ubuntu [17:15] Ok [17:22] /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/unattended-upgrade --download-only [17:22] This is the script thats running [17:22] pikapika: ok? [17:23]