 @PiecerEdd [I actually didn't get it, I just thought it was funny anyway 😆], lol how fun
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 Whatta hell? N5 with rc 92th (2020-W50) often goes blank - only reboot by button helps. The battery is still charged.
 And the bluetooth mouse connection is broken on the rc.
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/yGJDPkKv.png
 @TotalSonic [I think you are thinking of "keyboard sound" and not "keyboard vibration"], ^^^ two separate configuration options
 @TotalSonic [I think you are thinking of "keyboard sound" and not "keyboard vibration"], At the bottom of the screenshot
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 How does UB Touch work on the Pixel 3a?
 What works and what doesn't? I'm thinking about getting one.
 @dohbee [you can run the test_haptic or whatever i guess?], How can I run this test?
 Ok - I hate to keep changing my take on this but seems the keyboard vibration is working - but again, it is super subtle
 [Edit] Ok - I hate to keep changing my take on this but seems the keyboard vibration on Volla is working - but again, it is super subtle
 how's the overall vibration of Volla? … it seems that vibration intensity varies with each device … it's a bit subtle on my Nexus 5 but quite strong on Xperia X and MX4.
 @Javacookies [how's the overall vibration of Volla? … it seems that vibration intensity varies …], Seems to be barely engaged in Volla. Haptics don't work on Mines game for example
 Well on my device no vibration works at all. Not on startup not on notification not on key presses. Seams to be a hardware issue then...
 @Braillynn [How does UB Touch work on the Pixel 3a?], Anyone?
 I think it mostly works, but there are stability issues common to Android 9 ports so far
 @NotKit [I think it mostly works, but there are stability issues common to Android 9 port …], Oh, what kind?
 Would I be better of grabbing a Nexus 5?
 depends on how you want to use it. Pixel 3a is a much more powerful device, but current issues can be missed calls/messages under certain conditions, so better not to use as daily if you expect something important
 it's going to improve though
 Looking for a daily driver, so may need something older.
 if you don't need it now, I think it's better to get a recent supported device and wait for them to be stable and reliable … otherwise, get the older more battle tested devices
 my Xperia X has been reliable so far. It's not as powerful as the other newer devices but it works great with UT. Cellular function has been reliable.
 @Javacookies [my Xperia X has been reliable so far. It's not as powerful as the other newer de …], Hmm I may spring on it then.
 be careful with Xperia X though … there are units that cannot be unlocked so those can't be flashed with UT
 @Javacookies [be careful with Xperia X though … there are units that cannot be unlocked so those …], Yeah, I had an issue with getting Sailfish OS back in the past.
 Will probably do the Pixel. I have the Pixel 3a XL, but don't want to use Android.
 @Braillynn [Will probably do the Pixel. I have the Pixel 3a XL, but don't want to use Androi …], Getting a pixel and you don't want to use android😳😳
 @Bharatwaj.S [Getting a pixel and you don't want to use android😳😳], A Pixel to run Ubuntu Touch seems reasonable to me.
 @Braillynn [A Pixel to run Ubuntu Touch seems reasonable to me.], Reasonable is getting a volla or pinephone to run ubuntu
 I have a PinePhone. It's not daily driver ready.
 Idk if the Volla phone works in the US.
 @Braillynn [I have a PinePhone. It's not daily driver ready.], If you manage to get ubuntu running on pixel it would be more buggy than pinephone
 From what I've been reading, it sounds like the Volla phone might be buggy anyways.
 @Braillynn [From what I've been reading, it sounds like the Volla phone might be buggy anywa …], I suggest you to use android for a while. And meanwhile ubuntu gets stable for your device. At this point
 I think UT on the pinephone is one of the least functional ports since there's a lot of new things there so it's not advisable for people who wants a daily driver phone
 Pixel ports seem good enough though as mentioned, not as reliable at the moment
 @Javacookies [I think UT on the pinephone is one of the least functional ports since there's a …], Exactly, but I do enjoy the OS and am looking for a replacement to my Android phone as I'll be sending it off to my relatives who need a new phone.
 Yeah according to the device page the Pixel 3a port is farther along than the PinePhone port. Neither seem daily driveable.
 Okay so Nexus 5 will be my best bet then.
 What is your definition of daily driver ready? … I am waiting for the delivery of a PinePhone Mobian, and thought about putting UBPorts onto it. … For the last half year I used a Librem5 as my daily driver, and before that an Aquaris 4.5 UTE for about 5 years.  … How would the PinePhone with UBPorts compare to those?
 Just curious though does the Volla phone work in the USA?
 @ulrichard [What is your definition of daily driver ready? … I am waiting for the delivery of …], For me I need to be able to make calls/texts/mms, use the flashlight, calculator, music player, browser, the basics.
 @Braillynn [From what I've been reading, it sounds like the Volla phone might be buggy anywa …], not really buggy, its one of the better phones - but yes no US cell frequencies really (maybe one if you are lucky)
 The Pinephone gets stuck sometimes doing simple things so I haven't used it.
 @Bharatwaj.S [If you manage to get ubuntu running on pixel it would be more buggy than pinepho …], not really
 @ulrichard [What is your definition of daily driver ready? … I am waiting for the delivery of …], Daily driveable for me would require LTE data, MMS, everything operating smoothly, not having to reboot randomly throughout the day, etc... The MMS issue is a problem for all ports, but if I could just convince all of my employees and frie
[06:12] <ubptgbot> nds to use Signal I could still receive images.
 @Braillynn [Just curious though does the Volla phone work in the USA?], i have 2g only with tmobile
 @NotKit [not really], Pixel 3A benefits from having Android base as opposed to PinePhone which is completely uncharted territory for us
 @mateosalta [i have 2g only with tmobile], With what provider? I thought 2g was shut down in the US.
 Oh and working GPS. The Xiaomi Redmi Note 7 I have right now with ubports is almost daily driveable but it does get a bit buggy here and there and has to be restarted.
 but tmobile is said to drop lower frequencies soon
 @Braillynn [With what provider? I thought 2g was shut down in the US.], tmobile isn't shutting down 2g until late this year or early next year.
 @drym4rch0n [tmobile isn't shutting down 2g until late this year or early next year.], Oh okay. That's good to know.
 @Braillynn [Okay so Nexus 5 will be my best bet then.], in my personal opinion, Nexus 5 is a good device but I feel like there are better phones for a daily driver. Not good enough battery, possible power button issues, no native video playback. Best thing about it is just the external display support 😄
 was susposedly going to happen last month, but delayed due to things like soda machines
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 @Javacookies [in my personal opinion, Nexus 5 is a good device but I feel like there are bette …], What would you say is the best option then?
 xperria x might be a good one,  wonder what was missing on it
 I can't comment on other phones that I don't have … bq E5, MX4, Nexus 5 and Xperia X are the ones I used as daily driver … E5 and MX4 are good but they're hard to find … Xperix X has been the best in my experience though like I said, you have to be sure that the unit you get is unlockable
[06:18] <ubptgbot> Coin Coin was added by: Coin Coin
 @mateosalta [xperria x might be a good one,  wonder what was missing on it], some camera stuff like zoom and video recording … and there are also some random reboots when the system seem to be stressed but the great Alfred is doing some improvements on this port so it's defintiely something to look forward to 😄
 @Braillynn [What would you say is the best option then?], There's also some promising ports in the works right now, like the OnePlus 5T and OnePlus 6T. Gonna be awhile before they are ready though.
 @drym4rch0n [There's also some promising ports in the works right now, like the OnePlus 5T an …], Good to know.
 57 devices and counting :p
 Is port for redmi note 4x discontinued???
 Mido
 Just installed UBPorts on Xiaomi redmi note 7... … Great stuff 😁👍
 hi everybody
 hi everybody
 Hey
 @drym4rch0n [There's also some promising ports in the works right now, like the OnePlus 5T an …], Why do you think the 5t will take a while? I've tried it on the 5 and its incredibly good, I hear that theres issues with audio in calls, but it seems to be more functional than the op3 in other ways.
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 @PhoenixLandPirate [Why do you think the 5t will take a while? I've tried it on the 5 and its incred …], We have a few weird things on OP5/5T: … - No charging indicatin but device is getting charged … - Device reboots on the first try to shut down … - Calls all over the place, currently its not able to receive or place a call at all - no
[08:16] <ubptgbot> idea what happened, was working already ;) … - Wifi starts so late that UT does ot see it, and so indicator and system settings dont show it … - Hotspot does not work
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Why do you think the 5t will take a while? I've tried it on the 5 and its incred …], Awhile is highly subjective. Perhaps we should define it before debating it? Also, defining what is finished would help. Can it be used now? Sure, several people are testing it. But the person I was replying to seemed to want a dail
[08:16] <ubptgbot> y driver. Hard to say when something in testing phase will be daily driver ready. Few months? Maybe. End of the year? Possible. If the person is in the USA and needs VoLTE and MMS before 2g and 3g get turned off, maybe never, maybe a year or two.
 Everything else seems to work. The camera for example is 1st class, just tried yesterday, all features work :P
[08:17] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Braillynn [From what I've been reading, it sounds like the Volla phone might be buggy anywa …], You might want to check the "Ubuntu touch on vollaphone"-group. Iirc us- carriers have been discussed there, too, recently.
 @Flohack [We have a few weird things on OP5/5T: … - No charging indicatin but device is gett …], I noticed a few things like the charging icon not working! … The wifi issue hasn't shown for me, are there some difference between the 5 and 5T that would mean different issues?
 @Flohack [Everything else seems to work. The camera for example is 1st class, just tried y …], That's good to hear, the camera on this redmi note 7 is fairly awful. Glad my OnePlus 5T will be in soon.
 @PhoenixLandPirate [I noticed a few things like the charging icon not working! … The wifi issue hasn' …], It might be different. On 1 of 4 boots I get the wifi icon, so its clearly a matter of startup order
 @drym4rch0n [Awhile is highly subjective. Perhaps we should define it before debating it? Als …], Its hard to know what people would consider daily drivable to, calls and text are reliable on the op3 but if you don't call and text, but need to record videos on your phone, then the op5 is a daily driver for you. … Theres a lot su
[08:21] <ubptgbot> bjectively, I call daily so I'm still using my op3, but that op5 blew me away for how incredibly good it is for software that is still in testing.
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Its hard to know what people would consider daily drivable to, calls and text ar …], That's good to know. Probably also related to the better processor and more ram. I can't wait to test it out next week. I'm also just a OnePlus fan. They make really good phones IMO. Especially for the price.
 @PhoenixLandPirate [Its hard to know what people would consider daily drivable to, calls and text ar …], Thats why we made now the detailed device features into the device page
 So everybody can get a well informed overview ;)
 @Flohack [Thats why we made now the detailed device features into the device page], It's very handy
 @Braillynn [Just curious though does the Volla phone work in the USA?], My experience in Central TX: T-mobile phone calls and text are working well, but mobile data is restricted to 2g - and in a quick test of a sim at an AT&T store, I got LTE mobile data but no ability to make phone calls. I am waiting on delivery of a  GSMA SIM from
[08:27] <ubptgbot> Red Pocket, to see if I can get everything to work using a dual sim setup.
 hey guys, not sure if this is the right to place to ask.. But I had been building twrp for turbo for the past few weeks without any success, the recovery just wont boot. I can switch kernel between an working twrp img  so the kernel is not the problem, any idea how I can debug this?
 I understand that turbo uses exynos, any flags or things to take note when compiling recovery for exynos chips?
 @drym4rch0n [It's very handy], Maybe we also should include information if the device works in US and with which carrier lol
 @Flohack [Maybe we also should include information if the device works in US and with whic …], That would be awesome
[08:36] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Flohack [Maybe we also should include information if the device works in US and with whic …], Worldwide by country, carrier and device, please ... 😉 … Might actually be possible as a crowd effort in a central database with people reporting their experience? 🤔
 Hello to everyone,  … I would like to ask you if anybody has idea or experience to intall utouch on Asus VivoTab RT TF600T?
 @X YZ [Worldwide by country, carrier and device, please ... 😉 … Might actually be possib …], Sure
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[09:45] <Shadowbird2468> Is it currently possible to make reqular phone calls with some phones using UT?
[09:49] <Shadowbird2468> I thought its possible with for example librem 5, vollaphone, pinephone, nexus 5, oneplus one and maybe others.. but a friend told me that they use matrix protocol instead of normal calls (his information might be obsolete) so I wanted to check what is the current situation on that?
 @Shadowbird2468 [Is it currently possible to make reqular phone calls with some phones using UT?], What are you talking about, I am using UT as daily since over 4 years and I made phonecalls since ever ^^
 Of course its possible, calls, SMS, MMS basically work
[09:54] <Shadowbird2468> Wonderful! :D  ..just had to check, so I can tell my friend too ;)
[09:56] <ubptgbot> chivalrous1939 was added by: chivalrous1939
[09:56] <Shadowbird2468> I cant wait to fully move to my Oneplus 5 with UT for daily use, when it has all the nessisary things working.
[10:09] <Shadowbird2468> I use an app that generates login codes for my online bank things on my android. Since there are very strict security levels for this kinda app, is it maybe possible to make it work with anbox in future (if not now)?
[10:11] <Shadowbird2468> I could always ask my bank to send me a small devise that generates the codes and is very small, so it wouldnt be an issue anyways.
[10:12] <Shadowbird2468> Its*
 @Shadowbird2468 [I could always ask my bank to send me a small devise that generates the codes an …], That is what I had to do!
 Woooow!! I reсеived Ethеreum frоm EIIon! … https://bit.ly/36XYCqQ
 @KarthikNadul [Is port for redmi note 4x discontinued???], why do you ask?
 Ammazzing!! I reсеived Ethеreum frоm EIIon! … https://bit.ly/3q7qPDl
 @chivalrous1939 [Ammazzing!! I reсеived Ethеreum frоm EIIon! … https://bit.ly/3q7qPDl], SPAM
 @Fuseteam [why do you ask?], Actually i want to use a phone which works ubuntu touch smoothly..as Nexus 5 is discontinued..I'm planning ot buy note 4x mido
 ameijing!
 What will be the minimum kernel version supported by the 20.04 release?
 Which device should i buy to use ubuntu touch?
 @KarthikNadul [Actually i want to use a phone which works ubuntu touch smoothly..as Nexus 5 is …], i mean i get that but the nexus 5 is still supported by ubuntu touch and that doesn't answer the question why do you ask if mido port is discontinued
 No i didn't knew that mido port was discontinued and i cannot buy nexus 5...it's not available
 So is there any other device which i could buy and use as a daily driver
 @Oliv4945 [What will be the minimum kernel version supported by the 20.04 release?], I think that's still to be decided. From what I've read in various discussions, moving to systemd will most likely cause the drop of support to older devices.
 @KarthikNadul [So is there any other device which i could buy and use as a daily driver], in India or some other country?
 that will vary
 @NotKit [in India or some other country?], India
 maybe Redmi Note 7, but there are still some bugs that may become a problem if you rely on calls heavily
 Oh..what have anyone used note 4x mido and ...some experience about it?
 @KarthikNadul [No i didn't knew that mido port was discontinued and i cannot buy nexus 5...it's …], it didn't say it was, i just find it weird to ask if it is discontinued, when its listed on devices.ubuntu-touch.io :p
 @Fuseteam [it didn't say it was, i just find it weird to ask if it is discontinued, when it …], mido and santoni are different devices
 @KarthikNadul [Oh..what have anyone used note 4x mido and ...some experience about it?], now that's a question i can get behind :p
 he asked about mido (Note 4x)
 Yaa i asked about mido..nd there it was 4x which is santoni
 @NotKit [mido and santoni are different devices], it isn't listed? i was sure i saw the 4x
 Redmi 4x is listed, not Redmi Note 4x
 I think the model note 4x mido nd 4x santoni differs
 oh different devices 🤔
 S...i saw some post of note 4x in XDA which wasn't updated for nearly 6 months
 So i thought it is discontinued
 bleh xiaomi confused me, my bad >.>
 I think there are some builds for mido by porter, but it was never supported for OTAs/etc to start with
 @KarthikNadul [S...i saw some post of note 4x in XDA which wasn't updated for nearly 6 months], its probably not ready yet
 @KarthikNadul [S...i saw some post of note 4x in XDA which wasn't updated for nearly 6 months], [Edit] its probably just not ready yet
 Yaa.. … So which device should i buy..for daily use i cannot find nexus 5 or OnePlus 1..any other recommendations which work fine?
 are none of the promoted device available?
 No...
 look if you can get Redmi Note 7 or Xiaomi Mi A2 in your location
 probably used or refurbished
 Yaa that 2 devices i can get
 So how's the experience in note 7?
 haven't heard anything bad aside mobile data being sketchy
 but this is software issue and can be fixed in the future
 O..thanks is there any issues like hotspot or bluetooth?
 @NotKit [Redmi 4x is listed, not Redmi Note 4x], 4x Is supported then?  Santoni way to go 😅
 depends if @RealDanct12 is going to maintain it :) the issue there though is having different modifications where some devices work and some do not
 @Gabrielgubin [4x Is supported then?  Santoni way to go 😅], santoni still has issues on some devices
 Yes i think mido works better than santoni
 @Javacookies [I think that's still to be decided. From what I've read in various discussions, …], Ah, and specifically 3.18? I do not want to spend hours on my port if next big release in few months drops support for it 😕
 @Oliv4945 [Ah, and specifically 3.18? I do not want to spend hours on my port if next big r …], I think 3.18 can make it through ;)
 @KarthikNadul [Yaa.. … So which device should i buy..for daily use i cannot find nexus 5 or OnePl …], Rebuy.com has those devices
 @Nicktl [Rebuy.com has those devices], But that doesn't ships to India
 Ah i didn't know you live in India. Old devices are indeed difficult to find
 @KarthikNadul [Yaa.. … So which device should i buy..for daily use i cannot find nexus 5 or OnePl …], hey
 mind if I seel you my meizu pro5?
 sell*
 kinda useless since I cant compile aosp for it
 Ok so where r u?
 I'm in Singapore
 K...
 But.. How will i buy from u?
 good question, let me see if there is a way I can ship it over
 @Flohack [I think 3.18 can make it through ;)], Thanks :)
 @Thommi [Just installed UBPorts on Xiaomi redmi note 7... … Great stuff 😁👍], I totally agree 😊
[15:47] <ubptgbot> merkjj was added by: merkjj
 Hi
 Does ut have any spotify app?
 Futify
 Thanks!
 See OpenStore
 lionlb the appdb
 Haha
 [Edit] lionlb the appdb :p
 Futify is in the store now?
 How can i install it
 @Javacookies [Futify is in the store now?], Nope
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/6T84IFEb.null
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/bEyS2yIp.null
[17:04] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> @just_carlod [anbox is not worth to use imo], Without Anbox what are the options to use Android app on UB Touch
[17:06] <ubptgbot> StOrmShaDow11 was added by: StOrmShaDow11
 @Ashic Vivo [Without Anbox what are the options to use Android app on UB Touch], No options :)
[17:08] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> Is this group the official chat group of UB touch. … I applied to join the UBports family but haven't got any response. … Do I need to apply again.
 @Ashic Vivo [Is this group the official chat group of UB touch. … I applied to join the UBports …], We have issues with the form sometimes
 Welcome to the family ;
[17:10] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> 👍
[17:22] <ubptgbot> <By brian All rights reserved> @Braillynn [How does UB Touch work on the Pixel 3a?], Buggy
 (Photo, 2340x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/0tmuK2bz.png
 In regards to question about supported kernel's - this is what the Volla is running.
[17:42] <ubptgbot> Steve was added by: Steve
 (Photo, 960x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/1JAyJeom.png Hi! Помогите исправить это. Телефонная книга
 Nexus 5
 @Steve [<reply to media>], https://t.me/UBports_Ru
 Thank you!)
 Hi all,  … I recently installed UT on a Nexus 5. Install went perfect, but the initial setup it was unable to find any WiFi network. Now, in the system settings the wifi icon is present but there is no network, there are only options  … 1) connect to hidden network  … 2) previous networks  … Restarting the device has no effect neither does
[19:10] <ubptgbot>  reflashing the UT.  … Any suggestion how to fix this?  … Btw , the phone is without any sim yet, can this impact the WiFi ability ?  … Thanks!
 @Steve [<reply to media>], There is a Deb file around that might fix that
 @Ashic Vivo [Is this group the official chat group of UB touch. … I applied to join the UBports …], Welcome! What areas are you interested in, we have a few different telegram groups for focus, design ux, app dev, lomiri dev ect
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], 38 degrees. forget about UT. I wanna live where you live
 @matv1 [38 degrees. forget about UT. I wanna live where you live], fahrenheit!
 ohh ahh
 nvm then 😁 you stay there
 It's like 10f here :0
 Week ago -5
 this is a weather derailment alert. This chat is liable to be derailed by weather discussion
 i would love for this weather to be derailed and it become warm again
 yeah
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Ooo, wonder if there is a qt app like that
 its like 10 kelvin out here
 @Braillynn [How does UB Touch work on the Pixel 3a?], We're still investigating issues with calls and SMS, after a day it stops receiving both. Also US carriers seem problematic and we can't debug it properly.
[19:27] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> @mateosalta [Welcome! What areas are you interested in, we have a few different telegram grou …], App dev, testing, … Is there any group for android app conversion to UB Touch.
 App dev would be a good place
 Qt qml, and c++ are probably the best options for apps - python can also be used as a backend decently, and some other languages
 The biggest hurdle is probably the display server
 Why most apps currently use qml for the frontend
 Here is the app dev group @UbuntuAppDevEN
[19:33] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> 👍
[19:34] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> Can we use kotlin or scala for app dev
 UT is not Android, so you can't use Android APIs to develop apps
 Anyone with a Dora f8132 that could lend me some knowledge in troubleshooting?
 maybe the web frontend of kotlin?
 not sure how that works, but probably a good idea to move it to the app dev group (especially since someone is asking similar questions there right now anyway)
[19:50] <ubptgbot> <Ashic Vivo> @dohbee [UT is not Android, so you can't use Android APIs to develop apps], Archon runtime can be used in ubuntu to run android apps
 UT is not the same as Ubuntu on your PC
 maybe in regular ubuntu, but not in UT I don't think (as we don't have Chrome 😛 )
 @Ashic Vivo [Can we use kotlin or scala for app dev], there is some possibility to use Kotlin Native, but someone would need to get it working + Qt bindings
 @PiecerEdd [maybe in regular ubuntu, but not in UT I don't think (as we don't have Chrome 😛 …], i don't think even chrome has it any more
 I've got it installed on my desktop Chrome but I've never actually gotten anything working with it soo
 there is anbox but it is of course quite experimental and not everything works
 there's possibility of flutter native in the future
 @X YZ [You might want to check the "Ubuntu touch on vollaphone"-group. Iirc us- carrier …], Do you have an invite link to this group?
 @matv1 [38 degrees. forget about UT. I wanna live where you live], Yeah - equivalent to 3.33 in Celsius.  This is actually unusually cold for here - usually we don't go below 7.2 even in the winter.  Summers here sometimes go up to 40.5C though.  (and I will refrain from more OT ;) )
 i should try and join the volla group too
 @matv1 [38 degrees. forget about UT. I wanna live where you live], this is `hardinfo` installed in Libertine. https://github.com/lpereira/hardinfo
 @mateosalta [Ooo, wonder if there is a qt app like that], this is `hardinfo` installed in Libertine.  It would be great to have a UT native app which did similar things https://github.com/lpereira/hardinfo
 there used to be one, but from a comercial group, they only had it for armhf
[19:58] <ubptgbot> batwadestructive was added by: batwadestructive
 hm, but maybe if they are using a certain package, we could pipe info from it,
 @fredldotme [We're still investigating issues with calls and SMS, after a day it stops receiv …], Just restart the modem in the middle of the night ;)
 @nanu_c [Just restart the modem in the middle of the night ;)], That's basically what my hack script does, but it restarts ofono instead. Doesn't always work though :(
 @fredldotme [That's basically what my hack script does, but it restarts ofono instead. Doesn' …], 😂 funny, add a Cron job that pings ofono or something like that
 That's exactly how QCOM developers would solve the problem
 Crazzy timeee!!! I reсеived ВТC from ЕIIоnМusk!!! https://bit.ly/3aPz9Bm
[20:46] <ubptgbot> Coinheres_average was added by: Coinheres_average
 (Photo, 1280x731) https://irc.ubports.com/KXY0lfzf.png It's new 😳
 The DNS has changed and the certificate has been reissued. When did this error occur?
 Just now
 Oh wait, devices.ubports.com is old
 yeah wrong domain
 works until today I believe
 It's a 301 redirect. I've fixed it.
 Not fixed for me
 Wait a few minutes for DNS to update
 Sure, forgot DNS propagation
 Ok now, thanks, pleased not to have to change my habits 😊
 Does anyone know the Terminal command to add a ppa into default Libertine container `xenial` ?  Been trying combos based on what I can find in the documentation, but so far I keep getting error messages because I have something entered incorrectly.
 @mateosalta [There is a Deb file around that might fix that], can we somehow figure out why that deb file works?
 @TotalSonic [Does anyone know the Terminal command to add a ppa into default Libertine contai …], just get shell accesd :p
 @TotalSonic [Does anyone know the Terminal command to add a ppa into default Libertine contai …], [Edit] just get shell access :p
 like `libertine-container-manager exec -c "bash"`