[13:08] <siso_> /!\ this channel has moved to ##hamradio /!\
[13:12] <AimHerexF> /!\ this channel has moved to #nyymit /!\
[13:14] <r3mUc> /!\ this channel has moved to #nyymit /!\
[18:18] <OvenWerks> Eickmeyer[m], RikMills : plasma in 21.04 clicking on restart in the menu seems to have no effect
[18:18] <OvenWerks> shutdown too
[18:18] <OvenWerks> logout too...
[18:21] <OvenWerks> ok sudo reboot for the win
[18:23] <OvenWerks> Uh oh.... typing this from c-a-F2 It seems I can't log in either The session manager has a place to put password but nothing happens
[18:25] <OvenWerks> How closely wedded to things is pipewire? That may be a my problem. I am building pipewire from git and removed pipewire so I could install the new one.
[18:29]  * OvenWerks will reinstall studio 21.04 :P
[18:47] <MauroGaspari[m]> OvenWerks been testing 21.04 for a while and have not noticed those issues. Later I'll try to run latest updates and see if i can reproduce your problem.
[18:48] <OvenWerks> MauroGaspari[m]: I think it was removing pipewire removed something that depends on it
[18:48] <OvenWerks> I will have to just try installing the new PW over top
[21:05] <RikMills> OvenWerks: kwin-wayland and plasma-workspace would link against the pipewire lib from the archive, so if you messed with that it could be it
[21:06] <OvenWerks> RikMills: so replacing pipewire may also give me trouble?
[21:10] <RikMills> sounds possible, especially if ABI changed
[21:11] <OvenWerks> Hmm, so how does one test newer version of pipewire than the old one ubuntu ships with?
[21:12] <OvenWerks> (Old as in missing all the interesting bits like jack)
[21:13] <RikMills> I thought the one we have has jack support? Just disabled?
[21:13] <OvenWerks> there is no pw-jack
[21:13] <OvenWerks> there is a pw-pulse
[21:14] <OvenWerks> (I think that is what they are called but seeing as I could not login any more I am going to reinstall)
[21:15] <RikMills> Using pipewire as a substitute for JACK
[21:15] <RikMills> ---------------------------------------
[21:15] <RikMills> JACK clients can be configured to output via pipewire instead of JACK.
[21:15] <RikMills> To enable this:
[21:15] <RikMills> * create an empty file /etc/pipewire/media-session.d/with-jack
[21:15] <RikMills> * either run JACK clients using the pw-jack(1) wrapper, or copy
[21:15] <RikMills>   /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/ld.so.conf.d/pipewire-jack-*.conf
[21:15] <RikMills>   into /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ and run ldconfig as root.
[21:15] <RikMills> that is from our pirewire readme
[21:16] <RikMills> but this is not my thing
[21:18] <RikMills> https://salsa.debian.org/utopia-team/pipewire/-/blob/debian/master/debian/pipewire-audio-client-libraries.README.Debian
[21:47] <OvenWerks> RikMills: thank you I will try that. It could also be that pw has been updated since I first installed 21.04
[22:02] <OvenWerks> RikMills: we do not have pw-jack, so I will have to try the other way
[22:14] <OvenWerks> RikMills: just for your info... that does not work. the file /usr/share/doc/pipewire/examples/ld.so.conf.d/pipewire-jack-*.conf does not exist
[22:17] <OvenWerks> maybe it is all devided into little packages