[00:35] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> Oneplus one is kind of lazy. Scrolling web browser is not fluid. On the other hand, the nexus 5 is excellently responsive and fast. What are your experiences?
[00:37] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> Does cosmo communicator convergence require the special dock, or does it work with any adapther
[00:37] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> [Edit] Does cosmo communicator convergence require the special dock, or does it work with any adapter
 @Heng Ye [Does cosmo communicator convergence require the special dock, or does it work wi …], nope, any usbc 3.1 *should* work
[00:41] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> it's different for the gemini pda?
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 @Ted Rendol [Oneplus one is kind of lazy. Scrolling web browser is not fluid. On the other ha …], silly question: have you ver remounted your rootfs as readwrite to install things?
 Does anyone know if the following group is officially associated with  ubports : UBports INDIA … https://t.me/UBports_India
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 While trying to flash lineage 16.0 on my redmi note 7 shows no digest file found, updater process ended with error 7..? why..using orange fox recovery
 @Nabeel [While trying to flash lineage 16.0 on my redmi note 7 shows no digest file found …], Anyone know..
 Help me
 @Nabeel [While trying to flash lineage 16.0 on my redmi note 7 shows no digest file found …], try update modem
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/0WC0qXPD.png
 Current screen - appropriate for the season
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/iACQrCY9.png
 I actually really appreciate the almost zen minimalism of the UT "home" - it doesn't get littered with widgets and virtual billboards like Android does
 virtual billboards … I like that term 😄
 @Javacookies [virtual billboards … I like that term 😄], I like that too.
 @Heng Ye [Does cosmo communicator convergence require the special dock, or does it work wi …], special adapter
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 @Sanath [Does anyone know if the following group is officially associated with  ubports : …], it seems the owner is @wayneoutthere, so it should be
 @NotKit [it seems the owner is @wayneoutthere, so it should be], Ok.thanks👍
 hey, does anyoone know how to get xfce or kde or any other ui other than ubuntu touch ui ?
 @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Where did you get that beautiful wallpaper?
 Could someone please test this indicator on the Vollaphone, noting which diagnostics are included (if any) on the menu after installation:
 https://open-store.io/app/indicator.upower.ernesst
 @qwertybyte [hey, does anyoone know how to get xfce or kde or any other ui other than ubuntu …], Currently UT does nit supported xfce or kde. If you are interested there other projects hybris-mobian which uses phosh(gnome phone shell) or postmarket os (supports  phosh,kde)
 Much obliged.
 Basically i am not using my old phone at all(poco f1), I want to use my phone as raspberry pi,I dont even need gui.I did apt upgrade from then the ui stoped showing up but am still able to use it via ssh with cable and i followed a method to reverse tethetter internet to phone from pc and i have installed all my required stuff(apache,j
[09:42] <ubptgbot> ava etc) and everything works fine execpt wifi. Can anyone tell me how to get it working(POCO F1)
 Oh!!! Look at this https://bit.ly/2NkAiII Musk-wiht-Tesla open airdrop!!!🚀🚀
 @Sanath [Currently UT does nit supported xfce or kde. If you are interested there other p …], today i will install postmarket os but i need ubuntu so i am using ubuntu touch
 @qwertybyte [today i will install postmarket os but i need ubuntu so i am using ubuntu touch], Mostly you will have to stick to current UT interface then🙂
 any way to use wifi?
 Which device are you using?
 @qwertybyte [any way to use wifi?], Which device are you using?
 poco f1
 @Sanath [Which device are you using?], wifi is working before apt upgrade,I tried holding all *network* and *connectivity* packages from installing
 @qwertybyte [wifi is working before apt upgrade,I tried holding all *network* and *connectivi …], I too did the same mistake.Updates are not  delivered through apt in Ubuntu touch.OTA are the right way to upgrade.I reinstall UT when i was in a similar situation.There might be a better way  of fixing the issue.
 atleast if i get which package is interfearing with wifi will hold it
 you shouldn't update via apt. There's a big possibility for the system to break … you can refresh your system without losing data by using the UBports installer or switching to another channel
 @Javacookies [you shouldn't update via apt. There's a big possibility for the system to break …], i will give it a try
 @Nabeel [While trying to flash lineage 16.0 on my redmi note 7 shows no digest file found …], please join https://t.me/welcomePlus
 @Sanath [Does anyone know if the following group is officially associated with  ubports : …], https://ubports.com/meet-the-community
 @Fuseteam [https://ubports.com/meet-the-community], Cool thanks.may be we should pin your message?what say?
 @qwertybyte [Basically i am not using my old phone at all(poco f1), I want to use my phone as …], not sure on the status of the poco f1, but ubuntu touch utilizes ota updates. this means that the rootfs is replace when updates, while user data preserved. … because apt modifies the rootfs, most if not all of that is lost when you do an fu
[11:07] <ubptgbot> ll ota update
 @Sanath [Cool thanks.may be we should pin your message?what say?], uh guess it could be added … to the group description, maybe? i ain't an admin here
 @Fuseteam [not sure on the status of the poco f1, but ubuntu touch utilizes ota updates. th …], do you know any other method to install debian or ubuntu on android other than chroot,ub touch,postmarketos?
 @Fuseteam [uh guess it could be added … to the group description, maybe? i ain't an admin her …], Sorry thought you were one🙂
 and can you install ubuntu rootfs using postmarket method
 @qwertybyte [do you know any other method to install debian or ubuntu on android other than c …], no the chroot is the closest you can get, on ubuntu touch you could try libertine and see if it fits your needs
 @qwertybyte [do you know any other method to install debian or ubuntu on android other than c …], Try this : hybris-mobian … Running Mobian on Android phones … https://t.me/hybris_mobian
 @qwertybyte [and can you install ubuntu rootfs using postmarket method], you can try if you want, lomiri runs on postmarket os too
 mobian is experimental iirc not sure if wifi works on all devices
 it works on my device
 @just_carlod [it works on my device], which device?
 xiaomi mi a2
 even calls worked, but no mobile data
 @just_carlod [xiaomi mi a2], how did you install?,port for your self?
 for now, you need to https://github.com/hybris-mobian-images/rootfs-api28gsi-all/releases/tag/hybris-mobian%2Fbullseye%2F11, move this image to /userdata/rootfs.img on your device and flash halium-boot
 [Edit] for now, you need to https://github.com/hybris-mobian-images/rootfs-api28gsi-all/releases/tag/hybris-mobian%2Fbullseye%2F11 move this image to /userdata/rootfs.img on your device and flash halium-boot
 nice
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[12:48] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @Fuseteam [silly question: have you ver remounted your rootfs as readwrite to install thing …], No, I did a twrp boot,format all data and flash by ubports installer.
 @Ted Rendol [No, I did a twrp boot,format all data and flash by ubports installer.], and the direct result is what you see?
 Anyway we can use microsoft authenticator in ubtouch
 we have two authenticator apps in the store, have … you tried using one of those?
 microsoft authenticator is not really compliant with other usual TOTP generators
 @Fuseteam [we have two authenticator apps in the store, have … you tried using one of those?], I havnt tried it..i am not sure whether it will work..so wanted to check
 @ptrcnull [microsoft authenticator is not really compliant with other usual TOTP generators], ohw it isn't hmmm
 @Praveen7682 [I havnt tried it..i am not sure whether it will work..so wanted to check], but no microsoft hasn't ported their authenticator app to ubtouch, anbox does have camera access so  i doubt that can be set up
 Does UT has a wishlist page similar to this? https://wiki.mobian-project.org/doku.php?id=wishlist . ?
 @Sanath [Does UT has a wishlist page similar to this? https://wiki.mobian-project.org/dok …], we have an issue tracker where feature requests are filed, yes 👀
 @Fuseteam [we have an issue tracker where feature requests are filed, yes 👀], Do you mean this : https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues ?
 @Sanath [Does UT has a wishlist page similar to this? https://wiki.mobian-project.org/dok …], Note that these types of pages usually aren't helpful for the community or the developers. There are always plenty of ideas for what to do, but not enough people to make them happen.
 @Sanath [Do you mean this : https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues ?], yes that :3
 The most effective way to get what you want is to, well, make it happen
 speaking of which i still need to figure out this missing files issue with flick i have 🤔
 @UniversalSuperBox [Note that these types of pages usually aren't helpful for the community or the d …], Yes , but I will help developers find out whats missing.What users are wishing for.
 @Sanath [Yes , but I will help developers find out whats missing.What users are wishing f …], isn't that what the issue tracker are for?
 I appreciate your sentiment, but I try to keep a pretty good handle on what people think is missing, and how many people care enough about that thing to make it a reality.
 @Sanath [Yes , but I will help developers find out whats missing.What users are wishing f …], [Edit] isn't that what the issue trackers are for?
 For example... What do you think is missing, Sanath? :)
 ^^
 yeah I think feature requests in github/gitlab will do the same purpose
 @UniversalSuperBox [For example... What do you think is missing, Sanath? :)], perhaps something like shareit.that lest to transfer files between UT phone and and android phone.
 Have you tried Bluetooth File Transfer?
 It still might not be built for arm64. Maybe you would be the one to build it and fix it so everyone can use it?
 Just install Ubuntu touch on Nexus 6p. What email app are people using? Gmail account is what I use..
 @UniversalSuperBox [Have you tried Bluetooth File Transfer?], yes but does in not use bluetooth only?Bluetooth seems to be slower.I am not sure what shareit use wifi direct perhaps.
 It is, but it's a start.
 @UniversalSuperBox [It is, but it's a start.], I know UT team & community has been doing great job.I just felt if we could have recorded in simpler manner perhaps it will be easier.
 There are many forum threads and issue posts which request a wishlist of apps. But generally, new contributors aren't looking at them to decide what they're going to do next.
 At the same time, if you make a post on the forum saying "I'm making <app that you want to make>, here is some code, can someone help me with <specific problem>" you'll probably get a useful response
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 @UniversalSuperBox [There are many forum threads and issue posts which request a wishlist of apps. B …], 👍
 I'm not saying that you shouldn't make feature requests, since well-defined feature requests that make sense are sometimes acted on. But most are not, so I'd like to set your expectations before you try.
 @UniversalSuperBox [I'm not saying that you shouldn't make feature requests, since well-defined feat …], How do i filter for feature request in the list at https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues ? i didn't find a label related to feature request.
 https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Aenhancement
 That is an inappropriate place to request new apps, note
 @UniversalSuperBox [https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+label%3Aen …], Which is the appropriate place? forum.ubuports.com?
 Yes. But I just did a search for app wishlist posts and found looooong threads where... people just wish. And I hope they aren't disappointed by those wishes generally not going anywhere. https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4754/wish-list-which-apps-do-you-need
 @Sanath [yes but does in not use bluetooth only?Bluetooth seems to be slower.I am not sur …], there's a wifi transfer app aswell fwiw
 @UniversalSuperBox [Yes. But I just did a search for app wishlist posts and found looooong threads w …], Hmm UT has a lot work and improvements need to be done
 All software does
 We're never short on ideas to make Ubuntu Touch better. But we are short on time.
 Sure.I will try from my side as well.🙂
 @UniversalSuperBox [We're never short on ideas to make Ubuntu Touch better. But we are short on time …], and hands :3
 @Mark [Just install Ubuntu touch on Nexus 6p. What email app are people using? Gmail ac …], sorry your question got a bit buried, the email client available on ubuntu touch is called dekko
 @UniversalSuperBox [We're never short on ideas to make Ubuntu Touch better. But we are short on time …], 365 days isn't enough? :)
 @H@ñß9ñ [365 days isn't enough? :)], not when you have only 5-ish core devs
 @UniversalSuperBox [We're never short on ideas to make Ubuntu Touch better. But we are short on time …], What can the community do to improve that?
 @Braillynn [What can the community do to improve that?], contribute or interest contributors i would guess
 like the past year there were some cycles that had mostly community submitted PRs
 @Braillynn [What can the community do to improve that?], That's an eternal failure of the human condition, I'm afraid. :P … But on a smaller scale, do whatever it is you do. If you have an audience, tell them about Ubuntu Touch; what you love, what you don't like so much and how people could help fix it. If you're a developer an
[14:33] <ubptgbot> d you say "I hate this," try to fix it. There's plenty of people around to help. If you know multiple languages, translate.
 That kind of thing. Whatever your skills are, there's always something to do
 @Fuseteam [sorry your question got a bit buried, the email client available on ubuntu touch …], Thanks.
 to be fair, it seems like we are gaining more and more contributors in the past years
 We are! But somehow there are still more ideas than time!
 I definitely don't want to knock anything down here. We're going faster than we ever have, and we're accelerating. Three device releases last year, thousands of PRs (hundreds filed right now), there is a lot happening.
 I really want to contribute but I don't have any knowledge
 I highly doubt that. I'm sure there's something that bugs you in Ubuntu Touch that I could help you fix
 he doesn't have a support device yet it seems
 Yeah and my android phone also have bug and the manufacturer company take lot of month before the update
 And now it still bug me with lag slowness and much more that why I want to use different os
 @Fuseteam [he doesn't have a support device yet it seems], he has Redmi 8 which should be fairly trivial to port
 @NotKit [he has Redmi 8 which should be fairly trivial to port], not sure if mixing stuff up, but iirc he doesn't have a desktop computer yet to port
 @NotKit [he has Redmi 8 which should be fairly trivial to port], [Edit] not sure if mixing stuff up, but iirc he doesn't have a desktop computer yet to port with
 Yeah
 Can't do it without a desktop or laptop
 @Javacookies [to be fair, it seems like we are gaining more and more contributors in the past …], What throws off contributors is the fact that UT is a multi-tier, multi-layered stack of tools, some taken from Ubuntu or Debian, some unique just for UT, on top of a ripped-out Android system which is a bit like Frankenstein *cough* :) - Wha
[14:45] <ubptgbot> t I want to say, barely any hobbyist and free-time volunteer has experience with working in so many layers at the same time, even if its only for understanding. … Enter DBus. That´s a thing that normal developers for Apps and small desktop applications hardly ever see. And yet in UT its an integral part of the core system, which you need to underst
[14:45] <ubptgbot> and. Maybe we should offer more training on the basics than trying to teach how UT works. Not sure
 @H@ñß9ñ [Can't do it without a desktop or laptop], look at some places that sell used devices, you can get some basic one that runs Linux rather cheap nowadays
 @NotKit [look at some places that sell used devices, you can get some basic one that runs …], My country seem does not have any knowledge of Ubuntu touch
 @Flohack [What throws off contributors is the fact that UT is a multi-tier, multi-layered …], yes make more videos explaining various components of UT would help.
 @Flohack [What throws off contributors is the fact that UT is a multi-tier, multi-layered …], Sounds like a good idea. Whatever can help people.
 @H@ñß9ñ [My country seem does not have any knowledge of Ubuntu touch], I mean laptops/desktops
 @Flohack [What throws off contributors is the fact that UT is a multi-tier, multi-layered …], a course how it all works does sounds like a plan yeah, this is also something the community could help with
 @NotKit [I mean laptops/desktops], Ohh sorry I don't get you.😂
 @Flohack [What throws off contributors is the fact that UT is a multi-tier, multi-layered …], It's a matter of meeting people where they are. I don't think we'll ever be able to write an exhaustive guide for what's going on inside Ubuntu Touch (unless you sent me away for a couple months and let things run their course). But we
[14:48] <ubptgbot> can help individual people trying to get started, with the specific problem they're having.
 @H@ñß9ñ [Ohh sorry I don't get you.😂], he means an used laptops/desktop in this post https://t.me/ubports/324070
 If you guys can made simple video with explanation and interactive video it would be great but it will take time
 I'm talking about UT components
 @UniversalSuperBox [It's a matter of meeting people where they are. I don't think we'll ever be able …], Writing guides is often exhaustive. A Simple Video could help cover lots of stuff.
 @Fuseteam [he means an used laptops/desktop in this post https://t.me/ubports/324070], I doing it If im going to city
 @Sanath [Writing guides is often exhaustive. A Simple Video could help cover lots of stuf …], If writing is exhausting, video editing kills :)
 @Sanath [Writing guides is often exhaustive. A Simple Video could help cover lots of stuf …], Yes interactive video
 @Sanath [Writing guides is often exhaustive. A Simple Video could help cover lots of stuf …], video editing is even more time intensive
 it often takes a team
 If you're interested in making such content, I can help fill in any knowledge gaps you may have. But it takes me a full workday to do a 1-hour stream. So no, it's not really that quick.
 @UniversalSuperBox [If writing is exhausting, video editing kills :)], I saw some of the videos from a gnome developer.They were mostly unedited recording of youtube live session.They are not crisp & clean but they are very useful.
 if someone want to work on something like that i'm sure with the right questions it could be done 🤔
 @UniversalSuperBox [If you're interested in making such content, I can help fill in any knowledge ga …], i'm honestly interested in editing such content, not sure about the content tho
 @UniversalSuperBox [If you're interested in making such content, I can help fill in any knowledge ga …], Sure.Would be happy join hands.
 where to start with such a content is the first question we need to ask to tho 🤔
 Wherever you're interested.
 It doesn't really need a plan, just do and see where it goes.
 hmmm guess so, guess the explaination of the update system could be start, many people attempt to apt upgrade through
 [Edit] hmmm guess so, the explaination of the update system could be a start, many people attempt to apt upgrade through
 Just as a quick reference, I logged about 100 hours of research leading up to my "Brickless Battery Saving with Ubuntu Touch" talk. Making well-researched video content is possible, just difficult. So start small :)
 hah true that how small would you suggest?
 Seems like a loaded question. Seems like you could explain how to build and install a keyboard PR, though
 oh yeah that's good idea, i'll see how far i can get
 I did this a while ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqWbdPVAns0
 Yes, it took a full workday to prepare
 @Fuseteam [hmmm guess so, the explaination of the update system could be a start, many peop …], Yes that's could be a  good starting point
 @UniversalSuperBox [Yes, it took a full workday to prepare], oh wow that's a big boi
 and why am i not subscibed to you, imma change that now
 The issue is explaining the why behind the how with image-based upgrades. The reason for image-based upgrades basically boils down to "we're making an OS that people don't need to worry about every day". In that discussion you could bring in why apps are confined, why they aren't installed with deb packages, and many more things
[15:08] <ubptgbot> .
 Explaining the philosophy is just as important as the tech itself, since the tech is actually really boring.
 "We put rootfs in tarball"
 @UniversalSuperBox [Yes, it took a full workday to prepare], You don't need to prepare so much.just take a small topic for each video.just say what you know .I am sure you core team wil have some much knowledge.
 You'd think, wouldn't you? But generally I'm looking up most of what I know, too. :)
 @UniversalSuperBox [The issue is explaining the why behind the how with image-based upgrades. The re …], uh well i wasn't going to go into the "why" but rather into the "how", like a "how do updates works? spoiler: not sudo apt upgrade"
 while it may be boring to have lecture about it a short video would be easy to refer to
 but i ain't experienced with video production, so i'll first  need to look into what i need to do for that keyboard pr video
 @Fuseteam [but i ain't experienced with video production, so i'll first  need to look into …], How about be we can start with live sessions?each live session based on some small topic.Initailly we need not focus on editing.If feel the current qa session quality is pretty good in most ways.That way you don't need to spend much time on editi
[15:15] <ubptgbot> ng as well.
 Let's Play Ubuntu Touch, Blind Codethrough Episode 1
 May be a session after every q&a ?
 No, I'm already tired enough after the Q&A
 Someone else could, but not us :P
 Sanath if there is something in particular you want to know, it's probably easier and more realistic to ask and research your way through
 @UniversalSuperBox [No, I'm already tired enough after the Q&A], Ya.i  understand 👍
 @Sanath [May be a session after every q&a ?], A bit more expectation setting: … In this environment (and others like it) everyone is already doing as much as they can and focusing on what they find most important. … Don't expect them to find more time or drop what they are already doing for what you think is important. Just start d
[15:45] <ubptgbot> oing it and reasonable requests for guidance will be respected.
 my god those screenshots of your phones are gorgeous 🤩🤩🤩
 cant wait to try it on oneplus 5t
 @Javacookies [Let's Play Ubuntu Touch, Blind Codethrough Episode 1], I'll make a half broken "hello world app"
 one thing im bothered with (beside boring stuff like making calls etc) is amazfit app for the smart watches
 @alan_griffiths [A bit more expectation setting: … In this environment (and others like it) everyo …], I really admire the work being done by everyone.my request is not drop everything and start working on what i feel is important. Its a request to help people in onboarding through more accessible resources.
 I know the UT has been doing great job. Working super hard.
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 I can't install ubuntu touch on my redmi note 7
 Coz im trying to flash lineage 16.0...thats end with update error 7
 Assertion trustzone verify fails
 @Sanath [How about be we can start with live sessions?each live session based on some sma …], live session is not something for me, i'm not going to show my face on camera :^3
 also just because its a live session doesn't mean it has no preparation :p
 @alan_griffiths [A bit more expectation setting: … In this environment (and others like it) everyo …], this is a good guideline yeah, most people don't realize that
 @Fuseteam [live session is not something for me, i'm not going to show my face on camera :^ …], ya that's true. Please let me know if you need any help.I will try to do what is possible from my end.🙂
 @Sanath [I really admire the work being done by everyone.my request is not drop everythin …], he means most of the existing member do not have time to do more than some guidance
 @Sanath [ya that's true. Please let me know if you need any help.I will try to do what is …], sure if you want i can try and make a script-look-alike and we could work from there
 @Nabeel [Coz im trying to flash lineage 16.0...thats end with update error 7], hmm i feel like i saw this error recently, try searching on telegram, i'm possitive i saw this error in one of our groups
 ya i get that. great work Ubport teams.You are the reason we have UT  running on my phone today🙏
 @Nabeel [Coz im trying to flash lineage 16.0...thats end with update error 7], [Edit] hmm i feel like i saw this error recently, try searching on telegram, i'm possitive i saw this error in one of our groups. are you in https://t.me/welcomeplus?
 @Sanath [I really admire the work being done by everyone.my request is not drop everythin …], [Edit] he means most of the existing members do not have time to do more than some guidance
 @Braillynn [Where did you get that beautiful wallpaper?], https://open-store.io/app/wallpapers.eder
 @UniversalSuperBox [For example... What do you think is missing, Sanath? :)], Not Sanath - but the things I most want at the OS level are category based search and viewing for the App Drawer,  VoLTE support, and ability for Morph to use webapps that allow video and audio chat. Those are all big tasks to code though.
 @UniversalSuperBox [It still might not be built for arm64. Maybe you would be the one to build it an …], I have a click for an arm64 build of this that was forwarded to me or that I foind (forget from who though) - it installed and opens fine - but I need to test it
 @Sanath [yes but does in not use bluetooth only?Bluetooth seems to be slower.I am not sur …], There is also the WiFi Transfer app in the Open Store https://open-store.io/app/wifitransfer.sil
 @UniversalSuperBox [It still might not be built for arm64. Maybe you would be the one to build it an …], [Edit] I have a click for an arm64 build of this that was forwarded to me or that I found online (forget from who though) - it installed and opens fine - but I need to test it
 @Sanath [yes but does in not use bluetooth only?Bluetooth seems to be slower.I am not sur …], [Edit] There is also the WiFi Transfer app in the Open Store https://open-store.io/app/wifitransfer.costa
 @TotalSonic [There is also the WiFi Transfer app in the Open Store https://open-store.io/app/ …], I use FTP and SFTP for file transfer between my devices, I can't live without it 😅. Also I use KDE connect, but I can't find some app for UT
 KDE connect would definitely be good to have but for now, I think SSH/SFTP is the best way to transfer files.
 @LGeek [I use FTP and SFTP for file transfer between my devices, I can't live without it …], Yeah - support for KDE and GS Connect would be awesome to have, once again a developer that wants to tackle that task just needs to be found
[17:59] <ubptgbot> abocidra was added by: abocidra
 @TotalSonic [Not Sanath - but the things I most want at the OS level are category based searc …], By category based search do you mean in open-store?
 Thank you UBports team for the update to the camera app! Was not expecting to see that given how much work has had to be focused towards the Qt5.12 upgrade for OTA-16
 @Nabeel [Coz im trying to flash lineage 16.0...thats end with update error 7], why do you need to flash Lineage 16.0? You can flash stock 9.0 instead, then use UT installer
 @TotalSonic [Not Sanath - but the things I most want at the OS level are category based searc …], ehhhh? categories in the drawer will work on unity, so someone familiar with unity could do that, Volte support is complicated as i know you already know, morphs webrtc requires a way for qtwebengine to communicate with the hardware :P
 @LGeek [I use FTP and SFTP for file transfer between my devices, I can't live without it …], ftp and sftp just work afaik, kdeconnect is waiting on the migration to a new qt. it will likely be ported sometime after that migration is battle tested
 @NotKit [why do you need to flash Lineage 16.0? You can flash stock 9.0 instead, then use …], they are probably trying the gsi image, some people seem to be pushing that even tho its outdated
[19:00] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> Does the keyboard work in the cosmo communicator port?
[19:09] <Shadowbird2468> I'd like to learn more about UT dialing software. Oneplus 5, port under development, doesn't have fully functioning phone call abilities yet. Could someone point me towards right direction, where I should start studying and looking into in all that stuff, in order to learn to help with the port development.
 @TotalSonic [Thank you UBports team for the update to the camera app! Was not expecting to se …], camera app update is part of the 5.12 upgrade work too, really :)
 not strictly needed i guess, but we decided we would land the gst-droid work in OTA16 along with 5.12, back at the beginning of the cycle :0
 [Edit] not strictly needed i guess, but we decided we would land the gst-droid work in OTA16 along with 5.12, back at the beginning of the cycle :)
 @Fuseteam [uh well i wasn't going to go into the "why" but rather into the "how", like a "h …], Learn how Ubuntu Touch delivers reliable updates using this one weird trick
 @dohbee [not strictly needed i guess, but we decided we would land the gst-droid work in …], Awesome - thank you for all your hard work on this.
 camera/gst-droid work was Ratchanan. don't give me his credits :)
 @dohbee [camera/gst-droid work was Ratchanan. don't give me his credits :)], Praise to Ratchanan!! Thank you!
[19:34] <ubptgbot> azubieta was added by: azubieta
 The only core default apps without an updated splash image are Media Player and File Manager now. We're getting closer to cohesive theming on that.
 Hello folks! … I've been working on a repack of a click app (the Dekko mail client) as an AppImage. Now I have working binaries that would like you to help me test on your phones :).  … The binaries can be found at: https://www.pling.com/p/1480604/ … And the source code at: https://www.opencode.net/azubieta/dekko-appimage … Thanks
 @azubieta [Hello folks! … I've been working on a repack of a click app (the Dekko mail client …], Installing appimages is not supported on UT devices as far as I am aware of.
 Not rn
 @Heng Ye [Does the keyboard work in the cosmo communicator port?], yes, like normal HW keyboard
 well, tbf you don't "install" appimages anyway
 Maybe pinphone devices with other OS ?
 [Edit] @TotalSonic Maybe pinphone devices with other OS ?
 @azubieta [@TotalSonic Maybe pinphone devices with other OS ?], i guess you can ask in the pine64 pinephone group on matrix, or in their forum perhaps?
 are you contributing the changes back to the upstream at https://gitlab.com/dekkan/dekko  too?
 can also forward to @hybris_mobian
 oof, 182MB for amd64
 Standard appimage
 sure
 Etcher is 90MB and it only really has one job :)
 @dohbee [oof, 182MB for amd64], we had to pack half of UT there
 Lmao oof
 @dohbee [well, tbf you don't "install" appimages anyway], True - better semantics would be "use" instead of "install"
 hmm. not sure if it's broken, but i don't get any window when i run it on my pc
 @dohbee [hmm. not sure if it's broken, but i don't get any window when i run it on my pc], it may take a while to load,
 @dohbee [hmm. not sure if it's broken, but i don't get any window when i run it on my pc], [Edit] it may take a while to load, if it doesn't kill it, run it again from the cli and please send me the logs :)
 Hey @Javacookies, do you still have an MX4? Does it have wireless display?
 hmm, i should figure out how to build flatpak of authenticator-ng in gitlab ci
 does UT support flatpack and snaps ?
 Flatpak... installation is possible at least on Android 9 devices, but things like virtual keyboard will be missing
 *need Maliit plugin compiled in a similar way to https://github.com/flathub/org.kde.PlatformInputContexts.MaliitSailfishOS)
 [Edit] (need Maliit plugin compiled in a similar way to https://github.com/flathub/org.kde.PlatformInputContexts.MaliitSailfishOS)
 @azubieta [does UT support flatpack and snaps ?], No it does not. It supports click, and arm64 or armhf deb via Libertine containers
 @NotKit [Flatpak... installation is possible at least on Android 9 devices, but things li …], If you answer a question like this in this group, please add "...without changiny anything" to it and then say just "no" 😆
 "yes, you can replace the ubuntu touch UI with something else by building your own custom images and maintaining your own distro, which is not called ubuntu touch"
 I just feel that this group considers too many things impossible when they aren't, just require some effort
 [Edit] I just feel that this group considers too many things impossible when they aren't, but require some effort
 nah. anything is possible at zombo com
 and welcome
 the only limit is yourself
[20:02] <ubptgbot> blacksuperman1 was added by: blacksuperman1
 @NotKit [I just feel that this group considers too many things impossible when they aren' …], The group has 3600 people here of all colors of dev experience, but mostly people that wont tinker so much to dive immediately into hacking. Please think about target audience, you can always invite tech-savy people to a developer group. I am not
[20:02] <ubptgbot>  limiting people with such answers but try to make conversation efficient and realistic for what I feel is okay for the other party
 @azubieta [does UT support flatpack and snaps ?], [Edit] No it does not. It supports click, and arm64 or armhf deb built for Xenial 16.04 via Libertine containers
 well, see the context, that question was from a person who compiled AppImages, so I don't think answer was out of place
 Or, even better, ask the other: "Do you want to get your hands dirty?" if the answer is yes, continue.
 [Edit] well, see the context, that question was from a person who compiled AppImages, so I don't think the answer was out of place
 @NotKit [well, see the context, that question was from a person who compiled AppImages, s …], Making AppImages and hacking our keyboard and other connectivity parts inside is still a big gap I would say
 Because, it wont stop at the keyboard.
 We want sound, location, sensors all of that goodness. Ah and please why not apt install
 Can you please be more like Mobian? Its so cool ^^
 sound should work out-of-box already with Pulse
 @Flohack [Can you please be more like Mobian? Its so cool ^^], A little over-the-top. Could leave it at "yes, if you want to get your hands dirty"
 location/sensors are a separate issue, true, but can be solved by compiling corresponding Qt plugins :)
 Warranty's void
 Obviously most people are installing from the OpenStore anyway
 @NotKit [location/sensors are a separate issue, true, but can be solved by compiling corr …], Well if I cannot install a snap or an AppImage as-is, there is no point in doing so. Better make a new fork and click it
 GTK+ apps mostly
 at least until we move to focal and have something more recent
 Snaps, appimages, flatpaks are still nice for apps like dekko (or other click apps) for people who cannot use click on their system.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hey @Javacookies, do you still have an MX4? Does it have wireless display?], My MX4's USB port has been dead for many months but AFAIK it never had wireless display. In fact dissatisfaction with that was the primary reason the eBay seller did business with me (I didn't mind it's absence). I ordered a new USB port
[21:33] <ubptgbot>  (fixing three different Meizu devices is now a long-term project for me) for it and can definitively confirm once that's done and the device is fully updated.
 No wired or wireless external display, then?
 Is this correct? https://deploy-preview-71--ubports-ubuntu-touch-devices.netlify.app/device/arale/
 The original file: https://gitlab.com/ubports/infrastructure/devices.ubuntu-touch.io/-/blob/8502a28813db7eba8068a99d909026fd02610399/data/devices/arale.md
 SD card, wireless charging, wireless external monitor, fingerprint, NFC, and wired external monitor are set as unsupported by hardware.
 @UniversalSuperBox [No wired or wireless external display, then?], Neither.
 @UniversalSuperBox [No wired or wireless external display, then?], iirc, aethercast was not enabled on it, and it definitely didn't have wired video support
 i don't know if the wifi on arale can actually support miracast or not
 but the property was never set to enable it afaik
 And with the battery percentage only at "partial", as in it is a Schrodinger's Cat whereby you can only know when it cuts out and then the switched-off battery reports the true percentage, I'm dubious about the `Endurance` categories.
 But perhaps @Javacookies and others with currently operational models can interject with their experiences.
 [Edit] And with the battery percentage only at "partial", as in it is a Schrodinger's Cat whereby you can only know when it cuts out and then the switched-off-and-charging battery reports the true percentage, I'm dubious about the `Endurance` categories.
 @UniversalSuperBox [SD card, wireless charging, wireless external monitor, fingerprint, NFC, and wir …], Yes, they all seem self-evidently unsupported.
 @UniversalSuperBox [Hey @Javacookies, do you still have an MX4? Does it have wireless display?], [Edit] My MX4's USB port has been dead for many months but AFAIK it never had wireless display. In fact dissatisfaction with that was the primary reason the eBay seller did business with me (I didn't mind it's absence). I just ordered a
[21:41] <ubptgbot> new USB port (fixing three different Meizu devices is now a long-term project for me) for it and can definitively confirm once that's done and the device is fully updated.
 (Photo, 800x281) https://irc.ubports.com/Et9xwkjr.png My life right now!
 (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/9Glw4lRJ.png
 (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/AO2bttzw.png
 (Photo, 1280x768) https://irc.ubports.com/VxSzOZzi.png The protective gear arrived yesterday, and earlier, the best-reviewed wireless charger Amazon could offer.
 (Photo, 768x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/zVz1byZV.png
[22:02] <ubptgbot> commander1832 was added by: commander1832
 @Fuseteam [he means most of the existing members do not have time to do more than some guid …], Exactly. What we need is new people. Volunteers. Not stretching those are already very occupied with UT. If we collapse in exhaustion it won't do the project any good
 Yeeeaahhh!!! Look at thiss https://bit.ly/375MlAS Mussk-with-Tesla pumping crypto🚀🚀🚀🚀
 Does the Bq M10 have a notification LED?
[22:50] <ubptgbot> fxwzaan was added by: fxwzaan
 ^It does, it blinks green for notifications and red when (I believe) powered off and charging.
 marks as working
 Or at least I can vouch that it works on Vivid ;)
 I want to try and force install Ubuntu touch on my galaxy a50 ,is it possible
 @fxwzaan [I want to try and force install Ubuntu touch on my galaxy a50 ,is it possible], Probably not the way that you think. You can't just take Ubuntu Touch for a different device and install it on yours. You'll need to see our porting documentation: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/index.html