superschnellTJ-: hmm, when we ran Kanotix and their forks Aptosid/Siduction, etc. we had a guy running a winery in Australia booting up every one of his workstations from LiveCD with unionfs00:00
sybaritenbummer. Well you cant always expect to make everything work live i guess00:00
superschnellRecently, I booted up a LiveCD to do a security check and I always end up (temporarily) installing so much stuff00:00
sybaritenhehe yeeep00:01
TJ-sybariten: you'll see the overlay settings if you do "mount | grep overlay" and the mention of /cow/upper00:01
sybaritenI've had a development machine running for ...hmmm....00:01
superschnellYou could end up installing some security tool not distributed by default which in turn requires MySQL because they prefer it over SQLite or so00:01
TJ-I generally use throw-away LXC/LXD containers (for non graphical)00:02
superschnellI absolutely *love* the fact that LiveCDs allow you to do all that, it simply blows away Windows in terms of flexibility00:02
superschnellTJ-: perhaps I should try that00:02
sybaritenwell for quite some time   00:02:03 up 114 days, 20:48,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00     i have a web server and some stuff on there.... vs code-server00:02
TJ-"lxc launch ubuntu:1804 my18.04; lxc exec my18.04 bash"00:02
superschnellTJ-: I'm not too familiar with LXD I'm a bit embarrassed to say00:03
superschnellI'm a PHP developer these days00:03
TJ-superschnell: complete OS root file-system including PID 1 init00:03
sybaritensuperschnell: liveCDs are the best invention since the desktop clipboard  :)00:03
superschnellTJ-: ok00:04
superschnellsybariten: :)00:04
TJ-superschnell: when initialised as a 'dir' type storage ("lxd init") then it's simply a tar file extracted to the file-system00:04
TJ-superschnell: meaning you can poke about in it from the host if needed, too00:05
sybaritenit all started with knoppix, didn't it? Thats how it seemed anyhow, from a user perspective00:05
superschnellsybariten: it did. I shook Knopper's hand once, in 200500:05
sybaritenhaha okay00:05
superschnellWe built ours on top of his00:06
TJ-I have a "SourceCode" LVM ... I work on that fromthe host, but when I build I create a build container and 'mount' (map) its mountpoint into the container. That allows me to contain the build-dependencies and I can build on different releases to the host as well00:07
sybaritenThats something to put on the resume i guess. I once asked Ken Perlin a question..  around the same time maybe00:09
superschnellTJ-: I have to honestly admit that between Docker, LXD, chroot, etc. etc. I have difficulty to see the forest for the tree by now. And.. venv, and .. you know. I'm obviously conflating layers of abstraction, but stil00:09
superschnellsybariten: ;-)00:09
TJ-superschnell: yeah. I avoid docker itself although I do use some CRI-O stuff00:10
superschnellsybariten: I don't think Knopper took us very seriously back then, until we became competitors, haha00:11
TJ-superschnell: chroot is only really useful for repairing broken systems or creating an initial installation image00:11
TJ-can be handy to run a different architecture on the host in conjunction with qemu-user-static though00:11
sybaritenOK sooo...     given a machine with a Win install and two ntfs devices, one small for the WIn OS and one bigger for storage .... there's no exotic way to install ubuntu onto the existing partitions without touching them too much, is there? I mean using something like an external bootloader off a USB stick or so00:12
sybaritenstrange idea perhaps00:12
TJ-there was once "wubi" that installed into the NTFS but that was dropped due to problems00:13
sybaritensuperschnell: ah so you were part of Ubuntu takeing shape from the beginning? And he's german right? You too perhaps00:13
superschnellYou can load an ISO with persistent storage00:13
superschnellsybariten: Ubuntu? No certainly not00:13
superschnellsybariten: I'm Dutch, the name is a bit of a joke00:13
superschnellsybariten: I did have words with Linus Torvals once, and Shuttleworth too ;-)00:14
TJ-time for sleep; g'night00:14
sybaritensuperschnell: hmmm is that like one of those easy2boot solutions? I don't necessarily mean booting an actual .iso file, and im not sure that will help me with the mysql issue...00:14
superschnellgoodnight TJ-00:14
sybaritensuperschnell: ah gotcha00:14
superschnellDevelopers are just prickly people00:14
sybaritenTJ-: thanks for the help!00:14
sybaritenI was just looking for, well, the least intrusive method to get ubuntu onto a laptop which already has a Win install, i guess00:15
superschnellsybariten: isn't your mysql issue sort of solved with the solution provided? You could adapt the apparmor profile manually as well?00:15
superschnellsybariten: there are some options00:15
sybaritensuperschnell: hm? I didn't realize there was any solution? You mean doing the apparmor parser thing or what?00:15
sybaritenthought i was screwed with the idea of running mysql off a live OS00:16
superschnell1. Use Windows and a VM. HyperV, VirtualBox, VMWare. 2. CoLinux 3. ISO on NTFS with persistent storage and Grub installed in the MBR00:16
superschnell4. Who knows what else00:16
kk4ewtsybariten, until your persistant layer fills up then you are screwed00:17
superschnellThere's also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Subsystem_for_Linux00:17
superschnellsybariten: you still haven't been able to start it? Why not?00:17
superschnellI thought TJ- had you delete the apparmor profile and successfully install?00:17
superschnellI'm working on this python program at the same time, sorry if I missed anything00:18
superschnellI mean, it's literally only apparmor standing in the way of postinst00:19
superschnellYou could, in theory, modify the .deb and modify the ubuntu live image00:20
superschnellkk4ewt: the same goes for a root partition, no?00:21
superschnellsybariten: https://medium.com/@kasunmaduraeng/how-to-modify-and-repack-deb-package-436f8351af4100:22
superschnellsybariten: can't vouch for what's in there, small things might have changed00:23
superschnellBut it's an adventure isn't it? So hack away! There's also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization00:23
superschnellAdmittedly, LiveCD customisation can be an elaborate process. But changing a single .deb or overriding a repo shouldn't be _too_ hard00:25
sybaritensuperschnell: OK! Will look into that, thank you for all the help!00:32
sybaritenSPeaking of this subject...  you probably know the ins and outs of remasteringf a live OS. If i have a run-off-the-mill iso of, say, ubuntu... do you know the easiest way to remaster it in a way that every time i boot it up i have access to a certain script perhaps... or even that a tiny scrtipt is run upon every boot00:34
superschnellsybariten: it depends. You have to mount an ISO, copy everything to a folder, change what you want then create a new ISO from the folder. Expect to find e.g. a loop mount squashfs in there as well00:38
superschnellsybariten: some help here https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/80305/mounting-a-squashfs-filesystem-in-read-write00:40
sybaritenOK. sounds doable. cool00:40
superschnellA lot has changed over the years00:40
superschnellThough, mostly for the better00:40
superschnellI had some Windows tools a ways back that could modify an ISO in-place, or, at least, make it seem that way00:41
sybaritenand about your suggestion number 3. some thirty lines up ....   any reading advice to learn how to use an ISO with persistent storage like that? The grub part is easier to find lots of info on i suppose00:41
sybaritenI was kind of hopiong there would be some exotic usb iso that was made only for the purpose of booting stuff off a hard drive but im not sure if that's a thing00:42
superschnellLet me think.. you usually get an option with various flash drive bootable linux creation tools to add persistent storage - if you really aim to use it as some sort of semi-permanent installation you should make the persistent storage sufficiently large, though I haven't done that before (was never necessary) and I don't know if there are hard or practical limits00:43
summonneryou can configure your boot USB to use the HDD as a persistent store - but that's not what you're looking for sybariten it sounds like00:44
superschnellI usually do this with Ubuntu live00:44
superschnellMost other distros, I don't really require persistent storage00:44
superschnellHmm: "There are a few limitations. You can’t modify system files, like the kernel. You can’t perform major system upgrades." .. https://www.howtogeek.com/howto/14912/create-a-persistent-bootable-ubuntu-usb-flash-drive/00:45
superschnellI didn't think about that :(00:45
superschnellThis might be more promising: https://askubuntu.com/questions/55441/install-ubuntu-on-a-ntfs-partition00:46
superschnellIn fact, that might be by far the best solution00:47
sybaritenok, will look at that, thanks! Right now it's abends-essen00:48
superschnellMeaning the second answer00:48
superschnellI'm not sure what the Germans call it, but it should be Abendessen. We have 'avondeten', so it's similar00:49
superschnellIn any case, enjoy00:49
superschnellThat loop mount solution isn't conceptually much different from an ISO with persistent storage, except that in this case, the loop mount *is* the persistent storage00:49
superschnellIt's just ext4 or ext2 instead of ISO966000:49
sybaritenah, he's installing it smack right into a mounted image, interesting00:50
superschnellSo you just create a large file on NTFS the size of the root partition you would have otherwise added00:50
superschnellYou get the picture, it's clever00:50
sybaritenYeah i don't need much space really. Just to play around a little. Cool, will see if i can do that later00:51
superschnellKeep in mind it's now an NTFS file, though. So one particularly bad move with that file and your lose your entire installation00:51
superschnellYeah, enjoy dinner and good luck00:51
superschnellHmm, is there any particular reason why the big file couldn't have an MBR and multiple partitions, I wonder. And perhaps even contain LUKS00:53
superschnellSeems fascinating00:53
sybaritendank u wel!00:54
superschnellGeen dank! ;-)00:54
TazmainianHi all, I am struggling to get WOL working. I have set the BIOS on this msi 970 gaming to allow a pci device to wake it, but if I do a systemctl suspend, the nic turns off. Is this not supported in ubuntu ?01:18
leftyfbTazmainian: WOL (on the target side) is not an ubuntu issue. If the NIC is turning off when suspended or powered off, that is a hardware/BIOS issue01:19
leftyfbTazmainian: WOL should work on the suspended or powered off machine regardless which OS or if an OS is installed01:20
Tazmainianokay so back to the BIOS then, because even the internal NIC is off. But I need to run systemctl suspend right?01:20
Tazmainianeven powered off?01:20
TazmainianWell I think my Crosshair VIII hero the nic is on when the pc is off.01:20
leftyfbTazmainian: WOL should work when powered off as well, yes01:20
Tazmainianlet me check01:20
leftyfbTazmainian: "systemctl suspend" just suspends the machine. It has nothing to do with WOL01:21
oerhekssystemctl status wol.service > https://www.techrepublic.com/article/how-to-enable-wake-on-lan-in-ubuntu-server-18-04/01:23
Tazmainianso I see on my second rig, that it's on board nic , has settings for WOL01:26
Tazmainianoerheks, my NIC already has a pagb or something, but it has that 'g' in the WOL status01:27
TazmainianOkay I see, I think it's the NIC that has an issue, or the motherboard is taking power from it but I can query MSI for this info01:34
Tazmainianon my second pc, the onboard did wake it from being shutdown, but the pci nic, is off when the pc is off01:34
Tazmainianso that is the NIC then ?01:35
Sven_vBhi :) I want to run a program with a custom version of a .so file. if I just LD_PRELOAD it, as I understand it, parts of the system-wide version of the library may "show through". is there a better way (on focal) to run the program with only the new version of the shared library?01:53
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* enyc meows02:20
oerheksCreate a new file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d/ called valentinesday.conf ?02:27
sybaritenHey, does all current ubuntu versions offer help -when installing to a machine that already has windows- to create a dual boot machine?02:37
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot02:38
oerhekscheck if you have legacy or uefi, disable fastboot and have fun02:39
sybaritenok thanks02:41
InZaneGamer84Do ubuntu installs contain python's pip?02:56
InZaneGamer84Because I have Kubuntu 20.04 installed and pip's not contained within the install. It's not in the repo's either! It's pissed me off!!!!!!02:56
sybariteni think i remember installing it so no i wouldnt guess it is02:58
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InZaneGamer84sybariten: how do I install it? It's not in the repo's02:59
krytarik!info python3-pip03:01
ubottupython3-pip (source: python-pip): Python package installer. In component universe, is optional. Version 20.0.2-5ubuntu1.1 (focal), package size 224 kB, installed size 1022 kB03:01
InZaneGamer84krytarik: thanks!03:01
oerheksalso a ugly script python-is-python303:02
oerheks!info python-is-python303:02
ubottupython-is-python3 (source: what-is-python (4)): symlinks /usr/bin/python to python3. In component main, is optional. Version 3.8.2-4 (focal), package size 2 kB, installed size 10 kB03:02
dluxcruWorking on an issue with a broken grub bootloader (not sure if I'm dealing with v1 or 2). It broke during an attempted upgrade from 18.04LTS to 20.04LTS. Loads into rescue console straight away. I can get into BIOS and try and launch a live cd, but the live cd just products the following screen: https://imgur.com/a/1uYgcnE with a bunch of dashes03:29
dluxcruand dots. If a button is pressed it reboots the system and goes back to GRUB (or BIOS if you're fast enough).03:29
dluxcruI'm not sure what steps to take next; either get the bootloader to work or get the live usb to work. I'd like to get the live usb to work but the lack of an error message makes this one difficult to diagnose.03:31
dluxcruDoes anyone know what would cause the issue in the live usb boot?03:32
Bashing-omdluxcru: Maybe a bug that is now fixed in latest release - but what results booting an older kernel from the grub boot menu ?03:34
dluxcruThe grub boot menu displays the message: `error: symbol `grub_file_filters` not found Entering Rescue mode.03:37
dluxcruAssume I am completely new to grub and just learned what it was last week.03:37
Bashing-omdluxcru: Ouch ! Have not encountered that error ... We can next attempt to boot a live environment. From the screenshot - maybe a graphic's driver issue - what is your graphic's card ? Nvidia ?03:40
dluxcruIt's an integrated one as far as I know. HP laptop.03:42
Bashing-omdluxcru: !nomodeset | dluxcru Try this:03:43
Bashing-om!nomodeset | dluxcru Try this:03:43
ubottudluxcru Try this:: Systems with certain graphics chipsets may not boot properly out of the box. "Temporarily Add a Kernel Boot Parameter for Testing" as discussed at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/KernelBootParameters to add the "nomodeset" parameter there.03:43
dluxcruAs far as I can tell I don't have access to the screen where these parameters are added.03:48
dluxcruI can get to the rescue console or BIOS. That's it.03:49
Bashing-omdluxcru: Sorry - I am at a loss. Perhaps there are those here with HP experience that can guide.03:51
dluxcruThanks for helping nonetheless.03:52
Bashing-omdluxcru: I will be interested in how this plays out. Patience, as we wait for the experienced person.03:55
lotuspsychjedluxcru: recoverymode still can enter?03:56
dluxcruDo you mean the grub rescue console?03:56
lotuspsychjedluxcru: https://www.lifeonnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/recoverymode_2.png03:57
dluxcruNope, don't know a way to load this screen.03:58
lotuspsychjedluxcru: enter grub, and pick an ubuntu(recoverymode)03:58
dluxcruWhat would the grub rescue command for that be?03:59
lotuspsychjedluxcru: your grub is completle broken or?04:01
dluxcruEssentially yes. I don't have access to anything short of the rescue console and BIOS.04:04
ubottuLost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub04:05
lotuspsychjesee if this can help dluxcru04:05
dluxcruAs outlined above I can't seem to get a live CD to boot, so options are looking sparse.04:07
yao_ziyuani'm looking for a safe tool to undelete files from an android phone's internal storage. i know i should use an microSD card in the future - one SanDisk 128G 160MB/s read, 90MB/s write TF card is already on delivery, but what about recovering files from an android internal storage? LifeHack's top pick is FonePaw, which seems to be a hong kong company - you know hong kong is under china control these days...04:08
lotuspsychjeyao_ziyuan: photorec can recover files on ubuntu, but phones are encrypted doesnt work that way, only from external media04:16
lotuspsychjemaybe if some tool would exist to make a phone act like a HD it could work04:17
yao_ziyuanlotuspsychje: yes, for SD/microSD/HDD/SSD drives i use photorec04:24
lotuspsychjedluxcru: another option is to Liveusb your current system, then rescue data from your /home and start fresh 20.0404:25
dluxcruWhen I load the liveUSB from BIOS I get https://imgur.com/a/1uYgcnE04:26
dluxcruMost blank screen with a few dots and dashes.04:26
lotuspsychjedluxcru: try a lubuntu iso perhaps, see if you can bypass that04:32
Patrick_GFX: Intel(R) HD Graphics 4000 2112 Mb, SCREEN: Generic PnP Monitor, 1920 x 1080 @ 32 bit, 60 Hz05:17
Patrick_OS: 64 bit Windows 8 Home (Version 6.2 Build 9200)05:17
yatesdoes anyone know the non-free repo and package name to install the emacs elisp info page?05:26
rfmyates, think you want emacs-common-non-dfsg from multiverse06:03
yatesrfm: i already have multiverse. here's the line from /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bionic-backports main restricted universe multiverse06:04
yatesand "apt install emacs-common-non-dfsg" doesn't work06:05
rfmyates, hmm, doesn't seem to be there for bionic (it is for focal and groovy.)   No idea  then.06:09
yatesrfm: if i wanted to add "non-free", which line should it be added to? or otherwise how to do?06:11
yatesi'm being told in emacs that it's available in non-free06:11
yatesin #emacs06:12
yatessorry, let me paste my sources.list06:13
rfmyates, ah, try emacs25-common-non-dfsg on bionic06:14
rfmyates, I think "non-free" is a Debian section, not ubuntu06:15
yatesrfm: yes, emacs25-common-non-dfsg worked. thanks!06:17
rfmyates, finally occurred to me to search for filename emacs.info.gz on packages.ubuntu.org...06:18
yatesi'm still learning ubuntu and its package management. i come from fedora/dnf06:19
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i-garrisonhello hello anyone willing to test this pulseaudio change https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/-/merge_requests/491 which should fix bug 1576559 please let me know - I'm not an ubuntu user and testing would require building pulseaudio from sources06:49
ubottubug 1576559 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu) "Refused to switch profile to headset_head_unit: Not connected" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/157655906:49
EtherManUmm so I'm a bit confused here. I'm trying to run kopano-server on 20.04. I've set logging to debug level. When running, according to the log, it starts with no errors, but it doesn't stay running. It connects to the db successfully and then just exits for some reason but even debug logging doesn't say why it would do that. Anyone with any idea how I can get more info to find the issue?06:50
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tripelbHello 20.04 keeps getting so slow it's frozen. I decided that 55 tabs of chrome must be too much for it and I can't even get to a terminal window prompt. I can get the terminal window but no prompt just stay square contrasting box where the prompt would go. Has anyone else had this problem with chrome?07:59
ThinkT510tripelb: do you really need 55 tabs open? can't you use bookmarks?08:31
pagioshi all, do you recommend any 'Direct Server Return', or DSR that works on RTMP? I am looking to implement load balancinh on RTMP protocol09:20
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summonnertripelb, actually, and I'm just talking about me, I found 20.x unworkable and stuck with 18.x and 19.x - not helpful for you though, sorry10:49
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tomreynEtherMan: according to https://forum.kopano.io/topic/3553/kopano-core-8-7-17-final Ubuntu 20.04 is only supported since Kopano Groupware Core version 8.7.17, but the packages which landed in Ubuntu 20.04 (via universe, so probably just copied from Debian) are lower than that version.11:36
tomreyns/probably/possibly/ - have not checked11:36
tomreyntripelb: what'S the hardware specs of this system? are you using chrome, or chromium? does it happen with the latter? does it also happen with firefox?11:39
superschnellsybariten: let me know if it worked, I'm curious to see how the story ends :)12:20
Blu3Grim21xhi guys I just installed ubuntu coming from windows 10 pro because I was having some issues I messed with the system user privledges and a clean instal would not work12:38
Blu3Grim21xubuntu usb fixed it but......12:38
Blu3Grim21xthe letters are so small! and where is C? and why does the trash can icon look so small? also why cant I install chrome12:38
tomreynthe default C compiler is gcc (GNU C), but there are others12:39
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: sounds like you're using a hi-DPI display12:39
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: On a QWERTY keyboard C is next to the V12:40
Blu3Grim21xis there a more sleek looking version of linux distro?12:41
Blu3Grim21xI mean it works great and all but it has a mac feel to it12:41
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours12:41
TJ-That's the Gnome desktop - there are plenty more you can install and use12:41
Blu3Grim21xDo I have to do the whole install to usb thing ???12:43
Blu3Grim21xplease no...lol12:43
tomreynhttps://www.muo.com/tag/ubuntu-flavors-comparison-guide/ is a bit dated, but provides the general idea of what different ubuntu flavors look like12:43
TJ-They can be installed alongside the default Ubuntu/Gnome, so for example Xubuntu/XFCE4 = "sudo apt install xubuntu-desktop" on subsequent starts/log-ins the Greeter will have a gear/config icon with a menu that allows you to choose an alternate 'session' (desktop flavour)12:43
Blu3Grim21xoh shoot this sounds confusing af12:44
Blu3Grim21xdoes it not have a theme or something lol12:44
Blu3Grim21xwhere do I type that at12:45
ubottuThe linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. In Unity or GNOME, search the dash for "terminal" and press ENTER. Other desktops: Applications -> System Tools -> Terminal (MATE), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal12:46
tomreynbut you'll probably be better off seeking the web for screenshots before you start doing this12:47
Blu3Grim21xwell at least it looks better on my curved monitor12:47
Blu3Grim21xshoot these letters are so small12:47
tomreynthere's also distrotest.net12:47
Blu3Grim21xoh wait theres a zoom button there we go12:47
Blu3Grim21xthank you guys Im reading as fast as I can lol12:47
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: sounds like you're likely on a 4K display and need to increase the GUI scaling factor12:47
Blu3Grim21xyeah its a 32inch12:48
Blu3Grim21xlaptop but im using the gaming monitor as the laptop screen is smaller12:48
Blu3Grim21xI have stigmatism but I refuse to wear glasses just yet12:48
Blu3Grim21xok I found the terminal12:49
Blu3Grim21xok downloading root frame work12:50
Blu3Grim21xI have a bachelors in software development so hopefully I can manage some coding12:51
BluesKajHowdy folks12:52
Blu3Grim21xwhere do I see all my system files12:52
Blu3Grim21xand thanks again for the help guys ill get it slowly but surely12:52
TJ-tomreyn: re update-usbids apparently since 2016, according to the changelog12:53
ograBlu3Grim21x, https://www.howtogeek.com/117435/htg-explains-the-linux-directory-structure-explained/12:53
TJ-usbutils (1:008-1) experimental; urgency=medium  "  * Uses the systemd database, therefore drops usb.ids and related utilities.  Closes: #544503"  Aurelien Jarno <aurel32@debian.org>  Tue, 31 May 2016 23:17:53 +020012:54
Blu3Grim21xoh wow it looks beautiful once you change the background I like this desktop better its more roomy12:54
Blu3Grim21xwhats usbids ?12:54
superschnellI take it that the Wayland dpi scaling differences have not been implemented yet for people who have both full HD and 4K monitors?12:55
Blu3Grim21xidk lol12:55
jeremy31Blu3Grim21x: It is the database that gives the descriptions to the devices in lsusb12:55
Blu3Grim21xI hope warzone runs fine on here12:55
Blu3Grim21xoh thanks12:56
TJ-tomreyn: apparently now done via systemd-hwdb-update.service12:56
Blu3Grim21xdoes hexchat run good on ubuntu12:56
Blu3Grim21xyeah I signed up for the ubuntu one update link login12:57
superschnellTry It And See12:57
tomreynTJ-: oh you found it first :)12:59
Blu3Grim21xhey why cant I download warzone12:59
Blu3Grim21xdo I have to go to the app store?12:59
tomreynBlu3Grim21x: we don't know why you can't download 'warzone', do you see an error message, what are you doing exactly?13:00
tomreynalso, what is 'warzone'?13:00
Blu3Grim21xit says an error occured while loading the archive13:01
Blu3Grim21xwarzone is an activision game through blizzards battlenet13:01
ograBlu3Grim21x, https://snapcraft.io/warzone210013:03
Blu3Grim21xthats not it I seen it also13:03
Blu3Grim21xok this is going to be a problem13:03
Blu3Grim21xim a have to partition this laptop to windows and ubuntu13:04
TJ-tomreyn: seems Blu3Grim21x's 'C' is what MS Windows designates as the C: drive !13:04
Blu3Grim21xstop looking at ##programming13:06
Blu3Grim21xok well my digital storm pc is coming in a few days ill keep that one on windows and my laptop on linux13:07
Blu3Grim21xbut Im a have to find a way to install warzone13:07
Blu3Grim21xthanks guys you are really alot of help13:07
BluesKajBlu3Grim21x, if you install steam installer warzone is available to play, https://store.steampowered.com/search13:08
Blu3Grim21xis that right?13:09
Blu3Grim21xthanks your a life saver13:10
Blu3Grim21x"failed to install file not supported"13:11
cixxwhen i choose "Xterm R6" instead of "ESC[n~" on PuTTY's "Function keys and keypad" option, i solve my numpad problem.13:11
cixxhow can i make the same change on gnome terminal?13:11
Blu3Grim21xok it seems everything installed has to be done on the software store13:13
Blu3Grim21xthat worked13:13
Blu3Grim21xis this like a security thing or something? or its more like mac where it has a store designated for this13:14
BluesKajsoftware store?13:14
Blu3Grim21xwhere do I go to update my drivers for hp?13:16
BluesKajpackage manager should do it13:16
Blu3Grim21xyeah the big A13:16
Blu3Grim21xwhere do I find that?13:16
Blu3Grim21xthe more im messing with the desktop the more im liking it lol13:17
BluesKajtime to learn about apt https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-manage-packages-ubuntu-debian-apt-get13:18
Blu3Grim21xok thanks13:19
Blu3Grim21xubuntu is seeming more like visual studio lol13:19
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: what "hp" requires drivers? headphone? Hewlett Packard device (printer, PC, scanner, etc.) ?13:20
Blu3Grim21xwell hewelett packard laptops come with drivers on windows and an updater13:20
Blu3Grim21xwhy do I feel like im learning from you and your learning from me lol13:20
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: "software store" is just a wrapper around access to the archives but with some additional links to proprietary and other snapcraft images13:20
Blu3Grim21xbro I dont know what snapcraft means13:21
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: this is Linux - all drivers are generally included13:21
TJ-!snap | Blu3Grim21x13:21
ubottuBlu3Grim21x: Snaps are containerised software packages similar to flatpaks or appimage. For more info, see https://snapcraft.io13:21
Blu3Grim21xso its like a faster way of installing apps13:22
Blu3Grim21xthats great13:22
Blu3Grim21xno click wait click... loading bar wait and wait13:22
TJ-'app image' means generally it includes the kitchen sink and therefore is much larger than a traditional install from archive13:23
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: for HP printers/scanners you'd install the "hplip" package for example13:24
Blu3Grim21xoh ok tnx13:25
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: generally all printers now use IPP (Internet Printing Protocol) and we have a single tool for discovering and using printers, called CUPS13:25
TJ-Blu3Grim21x: it runs a local web-server at http://localhost:631/  where you can administer every little facet13:25
BluesKajthink getting into snaps this early in the game may cause confusion IMO13:29
Blu3Grim21xok fun fact warzone is not free on steam13:33
Blu3Grim21xhave to find a work around for battlenet13:33
Blu3Grim21xnot ported13:39
Blu3Grim21xgood night guys13:51
DonovonFarganGreetings friends, how are you all doing? I recently did a fresh install of Ubuntu 20.10 desktop with ZFS and I must say I am loving every bit of it. However, I don't know how to manually remove the automatic snapshots. Any recommendations? You feedback would be greatly appreciated.13:55
cbreakzfs destroy can do it14:26
cbreakbut I think there's also something in that zsys thing14:26
jckfrstis there even much of a difference between 20.04 and 20.10?14:34
today911hey! Is there a way to download source code of let's say dd via apt-get, please?14:50
today911(I read that I can enable source-code from the GUI of Software & updates, but I only need this to happen now or just once, and not for each download)14:51
TechPupcan i run/install ubuntu to my laptop14:54
TechPup HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.56 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5270  @ 1.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.5GiB, 90.4% free ** Disk: Total: 115.9GiB, 89.4% free ** VGA: 10de:0427 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: 14e4:170c ** Uptime: 1h 35m 49s **14:55
TechPupcan i run/install ubuntu to my laptop14:56
TechPup HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.56 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5270  @ 1.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.5GiB, 90.4% free ** Disk: Total: 115.9GiB, 89.4% free ** VGA: 10de:0427 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: 14e4:170c ** Uptime: 1h 37m 10s **14:56
EriC^^today911: you have to enable sources as you read, then do apt-get source <package>, i wont download for new packages unless you run apt-get source15:00
jckfrstTechPup... maybe consider linux mint - based off of ubuntu i believe- uses less resources.15:01
today911EriC^^: thank you!15:01
EriC^^no problem today91115:01
TechPupcan i run ubuntu on my laptop15:01
TechPupheres my specs15:01
TechPup HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.56 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5270  @ 1.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.5GiB, 94.1% free ** Disk: Total: 130.2GiB, 89.9% free ** VGA: 10de:0427 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: 14e4:170c ** Uptime: 1h 42m 52s **15:02
jckfrsttechpup. you should be okay with ubuntu but you may want to consider linux mint. i believe mint is based off of ubuntu but uses less resources.15:03
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BluesKajTechPup, 4GB of RAM is almost minimum required for ubuntu, it will with 2.5 but it'll be somewhat slow15:03
TechPuppuppy linux is based off ubuntu15:04
TechPupi want ubuntu itself15:04
TechPupeven if it will somewhat slow.15:04
jckfrstwait, what?15:04
ThinkT510TechPup: you can run ubuntu but it may be slow with the default gnome desktop15:04
TechPupare you gys lying to me?15:19
TechPupDesktop image15:20
TechPupThe desktop image allows you to try Ubuntu without changing your computer at all, and at your option to install it permanently later. This type of image is what most people will want to use. You will need at least 384MiB of RAM to install from this image15:20
ThinkT510TechPup: accusing people of lying isn't the best way to ask for help15:22
TechPupyou say that i need 4 gb15:23
TechPupbut it says 384 mb ram needed15:23
ThinkT510TechPup: I did not say that, I said it would run slowly based on your 2.5GB ram15:24
krytarikAlso, "install" being the keyword there..15:24
ThinkT510TechPup: have fun15:29
TechPupi downloaded a ubuntu iso on my usb flash drive15:29
TechPupim going to reboot and boot from usb15:30
arooniis there a way to force grayscale via command line on ubuntu 20.04?  i know theres a gnome extension that does it but i want to initiate via cron15:55
leftyfbarooni: you can manage extensions via CLI16:33
lotuspsychjewelcome TechPup17:03
TechPupi cant boot from usb17:03
TechPupit says that file idlinux.c13 missing or something17:04
TechPupThinkT510 hi17:05
lotuspsychjeTechPup: how did you create your usb, with wich ubuntu iso release on what kind of system?17:05
TechPupi just downloaded the ubuntu iso from the ubuntu web site and transfered it to my usb17:06
TechPupsystem used is tahrpup 6.0.517:06
TechPuplet me find the release..17:07
TechPupubuntu 16.04.6 desktop i38617:09
TechPuplotuspsychje are you there?17:10
ThinkT510TechPup: 16.04 will be end of life next month17:14
TechPupand what sould i do17:15
TechPupis the only one that is 32 bit17:15
ThinkT510TechPup: are you sure your system is 32bit only?17:15
TechPupdo you want my specs?17:15
ThinkT510go ahead17:16
TechPup HexChat: 2.10.2 ** OS: Linux 3.14.56 i686 ** Distro: Unknown Distro ** CPU: 2 x Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     T5270  @ 1.40GHz (GenuineIntel) @ 800MHz ** RAM: Physical: 2.5GiB, 92.5% free ** Disk: Total: 115.9GiB, 89.4% free ** VGA: 10de:0427 ** Sound: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel1: PC-Speaker - pcsp ** Ethernet: 14e4:170c ** Uptime: 21m 21s **17:16
pavlosTechPup: the intel T5270 is a 64-bit chipset17:17
TechPupi didnt know that17:17
pavlosTechPup: see Instruction Set in https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/33096/intel-core-2-duo-processor-t5270-2m-cache-1-40-ghz-800-mhz-fsb.html17:18
TechPupare you greek?17:18
TechPuppavlos i dont have a amd prosessor17:20
coconutTechPup, you don't need an amd to go 64bit, intel is fine17:20
TechPupubuntu 16.04.6 desktop i386  is the only one i found that it was intel17:20
TechPupso if i downloaded a amd64 ubuntu iso it will work?17:21
ThinkT510TechPup: amd64 is just the informal name for the 86_64 instruction set, both intel and amd support it17:21
coconutyeah will just work17:21
TechPupthank you17:21
TechPupbut what about idlinux.c13 file17:21
TechPuperror said that file was missing17:22
coconutdunno never heard off17:22
ThinkT510TechPup: one step at a time, get 20.04 and try to boot it, you probably won't get that error17:22
TechPup20.04 sounds modern i dont think that my shitty CPU will handle it17:23
ThinkT510TechPup: the cpu will handle it fine, its your lack of ram that will make it slow17:24
coconutits not a fast cpu indeed, you might want to consider a lighter DE then?17:24
TechPupoh ok17:26
TechPupwhat do you suqqest coconut i want toplay minecraft17:27
metbsdhow do i change grub timeout17:28
ubottuGRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub217:28
metbsdi edit /etc/default/grub default timeout but ti's ignoring17:28
oerhekssee the manual metbsd17:28
pavlosmetbsd: edit /etc/default/grub17:28
oerheksand updat grub aftr that17:28
metbsdi did17:28
jeremy31metbsd: don't set it to 017:30
metbsdit stops at the selection for whole 30 seconds17:30
metbsdi set it to 317:30
jeremy31metbsd: GRUB_TIMEOUT=317:31
metbsddid that. and then sudo update-grub17:31
metbsdi reboot, still it waits 30sec17:31
jeremy31metbsd: encrypted?17:31
jeremy31metbsd: try adding this and see if it works>  GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=517:33
pavlosmetbsd: grep timeout= /boot/grub/grub.cfg           do you see the value of 5 you set up?17:38
EriC^^+1 on the grub record fail17:42
TechPuphey guys17:45
TechPupi am downloading ubuntu on my flash drive17:46
oerheksdownloading the iso on your flashdrive? that does not boot...17:49
ubottuFor information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent17:49
coconutTechPup, i would try either mate, xfce, or lxde, those are the most popular... ## i only like mate myself, and dunno which is the lightest.17:50
ubottuRecognized Ubuntu flavors build on Ubuntu and provide a different user experience out of the box. They are supported both in #ubuntu and in their flavor channel. For a list, see https://www.ubuntu.com/download/ubuntu-flavours17:50
TechPupcoconut5 is ubuntu mate ubuntu but lighter?17:51
coconutTechPup, it is lighter although i dunno that for a scale really if you ask17:51
TechPuplemme google it17:52
coconuti would just try it, it is old gnome version and it is lighter17:52
TechPuphey is lubuntu ubuntu based?17:55
oerheks... see !flavors17:55
coconuthere you can find all iso's TechPup -> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/18:00
TechPupthanks coconut18:01
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jckfrstYep. Mate, Mint, xfce, Lxde are all lighter workloads for hardware than say ubuntu or kubuntu19:20
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zerobaudSorry it seems offtopic but I am writing technical documentation... "Anybody knows a good word (maybe slightly offensive) for saying something which was not factually correct, and probably was said as a result of making a quick decision?"19:31
jeremy31Pull your head out of your mask19:31
ptx0i installed a snap and removed it, then installed the deb equivalent but kde keeps trying to use the snap binary which it cannot find19:33
ptx0where does the .application file live for these guys? can't find any of them19:33
ptx0ah got it, /usr/local/share/applications/slack.desktop19:35
ptx0needed to manually delete that file... what a crappy thing the Snaps are.19:35
metbsdcan i auto create a fstab according to my /mnt folders19:40
oerheksptx0, so, you installed the deb from 3rd party sources ... and complain about the 3rd party snap? which should be the same version?19:42
pagios: hello, i have users streaming to my server, and i would like to balance that uplink to multiple servers so that the user stream gets uplinked to one of the servers instead of only to one. The user uploading the stream needs to go directly to one of the servers and not pass by a load balance. This is mainly to remove the need to scale a Load balancer. I thought of dns load balancing where the user streams to a given a-record19:45
pagios and19:45
pagios then this gets some kind of loadbalancing and resolves each time to an ip of the servers. is this a good way to start?19:45
matsamanpagios: I mean you just said you don't want a load balancer, and then that you want a load balancer19:48
TJ-pagios: seem my comment in ##nteworking about ECMP19:48
matsamanif your load balancer is failing in some aspect, perhaps just fixing that aspect alone is the path forward, instead of trying to load balance without a load balancer19:48
TJ-pagios: we use that to deterministically distribute incoming streams to anycast hosts19:49
pagiosmatsaman: idea is to have a way to forward the DATA from client to backend without passing through an LB19:50
pagiosLB acts as an orchestrator only19:50
TJ-(ECMP with 5-tuple)19:51
pagiosTJ-: does it work on linux ?19:51
ptx0oerheks: i know it's hard to read and comprehend fully but i installed third party snap and then removed it before installing third party deb, and there was a file left behind from the snap, outside of /snap... in /usr/local/share/applications19:51
pagiosor requries special hardware19:51
TJ-pagios: of course!19:52
ptx0so, Snap, doesn't remove files fully when a snap is removed19:52
ptx0this is the complaint.19:52
ptx0there's no "purge" option like there is with apt-get19:52
TJ-pagios: we use it with pure IPv6 but it works with IPv4 too19:52
pagiosTJ-: does it meet this requirement? client is sending big data to LB, LB in someway redirects that traffic to a given backedn server from a pool of backend servers, LB does not process the big data, the client sends data DIRECTLY to backend , backend replies to client directly, no LB involvment19:53
TJ-pagios: ECMP is pure network in-kernel level routing19:53
pagiosTJ-: ok, so the client needs to be configured in some special way ?19:54
ptx0well you can use Multicast with IGMP too19:54
pagiosor only the backend and LBs19:54
TJ-pagios: you'd have a single router doing ECMP in front of the backends that have a shared anycast address as well as unique addresses19:54
pagiosTJ-: but the trafficwill flow through that router too right?19:56
TJ-pagios: if it helps I can share a couple of test shell scripts that set-up and respectively test ECMP using network namespaces that you can use as a template for what you want to do in your environment19:56
TJ-pagios: well of course, that's the point of a router.19:56
pagiosthats not scalable in my case19:57
TJ-pagios: you could have multiple routers19:57
pagioscoz i will be bound by the b/w of that router19:57
pagiosi want peer to peer from client to backend to use the backend b/w fully19:57
pi0hi all! happy vday19:57
TJ-pagios: then you'd need to use the ECMP 5-tuple principle client-side to choose a target19:58
ptx0use a WebSocket proxy :D19:58
ptx0application level load balancing can be used, return a websocket address depending on which backend is best19:58
pagiosthat means the client needs to talk websocket which is not my case19:59
pi0not sure if this is the place for this, but i want to setup a ubunut server for live streaming, i would like to capture from my phone and use ubuntu with ngrok19:59
pi0as the server19:59
unixbsdplease a fix asap in current kubuntu. there is an huge bug into gcc, please the reportbug :   links termbin.com/3uss20:04
TJ-unixbsd: no bug there20:05
unixbsdgcc cannot find /usr/lib.. .clang can.20:15
TJ-unixbsd: -Idir is for header file paths, not linker paths.20:25
TJ-unixbsd: headers are in /usr/include/ e.g. libfltk1.3-dev: /usr/include/FL/Fl_Browser.H20:26
TJ-unixbsd: but your issue is that the linker isn't finding libfltk, presumably this? libfltk1.3-dev: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfltk.so20:27
TJ-unixbsd: the system library path should already be set but maybe you need -L /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu  ?20:29
TJ-unixbsd: I wonder if there's some non-default change to rpath?20:34
TJ-unixbsd: actually, I suspect the issue is the order you've given the linker libraries, try " c++ flpackage.cxx -lfltk -lX11"20:38
unixbsdI can give a try20:38
unixbsdah true20:40
unixbsdc++ fails with -lfltk20:40
unixbsddoes not matter, g++ should work anyhow.20:40
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monstercocan anyone guess how fast xvfb + vnc can be from the time image is created to the time is projected to a remote machine? (excluding the network travel time which I am assuming is TCP or UDP)21:34
ThinkT510I'm sure they can guess21:35
summonnerdepends on your color density (4,8,16,24bit) and network speed between your endpoints, and if there is any encryption21:36
today911Hi all! :)  I'm trying to download the source and all the included .c & .h files for dd, but I do not know how to do it? I already enabled Source code in Software & Updates, but running apt-get source dd does not work21:38
today911May I get a hint please?21:38
ThinkT510what is the output?21:39
today911it says "E: Unable to find a source package for dd" (I read somewhere that dd is included into the Ubuntu core packages?)21:40
ThinkT510!find dd21:40
ubottuFound: adduser, libcdio-cdda2, libmaxminddb-dev, libmaxminddb0, libmdds-dev, libnetaddr-ip-perl, python-bsddb3-doc, python-ddt-doc, python-keystonemiddleware-doc, python-maxminddb-doc (and 12279 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=dd&searchon=names&suite=focal&section=all21:40
oerhekswhy do you want to build dd yourself?21:41
oerheksand the rest21:41
today911I'd like to learn from the code :)21:41
oerheksthen understand the self explaining error?21:42
today911and after the sources are downloaded, where can I find them?21:42
ThinkT510today911: you don't really need to download the source to read it. most projects host it somewhere so you can just browse their repository to read the source21:44
ubottuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)21:44
today911ThinkT510: I already found dd.c but then, it includes other files that I do not know how to reach?21:44
unixbsdyou can use my bsd unix dd.c, it works on linux21:49
unixbsdtoday911: here is dd.c , portable and using clang only: https://termbin.com/8w4k21:49
oerhekssure, but we are not going to support a disaster :-)21:50
unixbsdwith clang dd.c -o dd  * have fun *21:51
today911unixbsd: thank you :)  that was fast!21:51
unixbsdand unique experience.21:51
unixbsdoerheks: without perl and python ;)21:52
abesabIs modifying the ISO the only way to have an unattended installation?22:04
oerheksabesab, no, preseed is the most used route22:05
abesaboerheks: Not exactly trivial it seems :)22:07
abesaboerheks: Based on some reading it looks like there are different methods for desktop and server. I'm still not sure which one is pre-seeding (or if they both are)22:13
abesabAnd also server 20 is different than earlier versions apparently. https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/autoinstall22:14
tomreynabesab: ubuntu server' default (since at least 18.04 LTS) 'server live' installer uses autoinstall.22:15
tomreyndesktops use preseeding, and the page you pointed to disucsses the difference22:15
abesabtomreyn: Thanks. I am getting the impressions that autoinstall is much easier than preseeding (with d-i). I think I'll use a server ISO and just install the desktop package on it.22:19
today911just a thought crossed my mind... what kind of smartphones do you guys use in here? :)  Since it's Ubuntu channel, I am curious... as Android is sometimes a bit weird, has to be rooted... youtube does not allow screen to be off unless one pays for it, and so on...22:26
oerhekstoday911, there is a phone project, #ubports .. else polling about smartphone use is useless.22:28
today911oerheks: I know about ubports, unfortunately Samsung Galaxy A8 is not supported :(22:29
Maik!discuss | today91122:35
ubottutoday911: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!22:35
Maiktalk about smartphones is not a ubunu support question22:35
unixbsdfor my samsung, I use : apt-get install adb; adb devices ; adb mount ; adb pull /sdcard        <-- using developer trick (enabled), and the system is backuped on linux.22:37
oerheksunixbsd, nobody asked that, and is interested?22:38
today911Maik: sure, thank you22:38
Maiktake it either to #ubuntu-discuss or offtopic please unixbsd22:38
oerhekstoo much noise..22:39
Maikalways the same after throwing in a !discuss trigger some people tend to continue with unrelated offtopic talk22:40
unixbsdAh, I misread then,...22:40
Maikor just bring it up anyway22:40
tomreynabesab: you may want to switch from cloud-init/netplan/systemd-networkd to network-manager for network configuration management then.22:41
abesabtomreyn: Thanks. What I ended up doing (still running the install now) is using the "vboxmanage unattended install" command. If this works for my purposes then I won't have to worry about preseed/autoinstall/using a server install of Ubuntu22:54
sybaritenhey'all, and superschnell in particular: just wanted to give some followup on what i did. So I had some live systems running as i said, and couldnt get mysql installed because of this rather intricate technical reason "by design", as i understood it.23:34
sybaritenI was too tired to learn how to do the apparmor/deb thing to make it work, cause as i udnerstood it i would need to make new deb packages or something. I had a win machine, a laptop with a couple of harddrives in it but i just wasn't keen on reformatting or changing the drives too much at this point. So ideally i'd like to get a real *nix install on there anyhow, in some way23:35
sybaritenTurns out this wubi thing _does_ actually still exist after all, there is some wubiuefi fork which seems rather up to date, i did that from Win with a DL:ed iso and it worked like a charm (on the third attempt) ! So now i have a boot menu, which looks very "win native" but which lets me boot Win or Xubuntu.  :)23:37
sybaritenAnd from within that one (xubuntu on a 32gb image) there was no problem getting mysql installed with apt-get.23:38
kevrcan i launch a terminal while installing?23:44
kevri chose the Install button instead of the "Try" or whatever, I need to look at some disk things to make sure i'm doing the right thing, but i can't find the launcher23:44
kevr(i'm on 20.10 live desktop disk)23:44
kevrtomreyn: thank you!23:45
tomreynyou're welcome :)23:45
kevri love the face you guys have on the background23:53
kevrWhen I'm installing, if I want to setup LVM and Luks, does the installer give me that option through the normal "easy" steps, or should i choose the "Something else" installation type and configure it myself through parted?23:55
kevrand perhaps luks with ctrl+alt+t terminal?23:55
kevri guess i'm wondering if ubuntu has an out of the box way to add a cryptdevice and unlocked cryptdevice to kernel cmdline, to unlock it23:56
kevror if that needs to be crafted by myself?23:56
tomreynthere's some advanced tickbox where you can choose between encryption and zfs-alpha23:57
tomreynencryption would provide lvm on top of dmcrypt-luks, but /boot remains unencrypted.23:58
kevrmakes sense!23:59
kevrThank you!23:59

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