[12:32] <xu-irc67w> When is a plugged in USB stick represented by a USB drive icon and when by a Pendrive icon in the desktop?
[12:33] <xu-irc67w> I am using Xubuntu 20.04, XFCE
[12:36] <xu-irc67w> On what does it depend? I have 2 sticks and their desktop icons differ but I don't know why
[12:41] <xu-irc67w> Anyone?
[12:43] <brainwash> xu-irc67w: got a screenshot?
[12:44] <xu-irc67w> no
[12:44] <xu-irc67w> where are those icons stored i will look them up
[12:45] <brainwash> /usr/share/icons/
[12:45] <xu-irc67w> thx
[12:45] <tomreyn> it may be a matter of how or whether file systems were detected on it
[12:46] <brainwash> maybe doing a simple right-click > Properties could give a hint
[12:49] <xu-irc67w> One stick seems to use drive-removable-media-usb.png
[12:51] <xu-irc67w> The other stick as drive-harddisk-usb.png or gnome-dev-flashkey.png (same icon)
[12:53] <xu-irc67w> Properties are the same
[12:54] <xu-irc67w> both sticks have a single LUKS partition
[12:57] <brainwash> xu-irc67w: my only guess would be that one of the devices has a fstab entry
[12:57] <brainwash> and therefore is identified as hdd
[13:01] <xu-irc67w> noops
[13:02] <diogenes_> xu-irc67w, might depend on the driver deleted.
[13:02] <xu-irc67w> one stick has partion id 7 (HPFS/NTFS/exFAT) the other e8 (LUKS)
[13:03] <brainwash> there you have it
[13:04] <xu-irc67w> but that is also not the cause, i changed the id to 7 and still it is displayed as a disk iso pendrive
[13:06] <xu-irc67w> can you point me to the source code where the decision is made?
[13:11] <brainwash> xu-irc67w: maybe here https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/glib/-/blob/master/gio/gunixmounts.c#L2711
[13:13] <xu-irc67w> thx again, i will have a look
[13:14] <brainwash> looks like xfdesktop specifies the icons too https://gitlab.xfce.org/xfce/xfdesktop/-/blob/master/settings/main.c#L425
[13:16] <brainwash> but that's for the settings dialog it seems
[15:17] <xu-irc67w> Source code doesn't help.Maybe the Product description of the usb device has influence. If I run the script usb-devices, one USB stick shows "Product=Voyager Go" and the misbehaving one shows "Product=Mass Storage Device".
[15:20] <xu-irc67w> I am probably talking nonsense
[15:23] <brainwash> what is your goal though?
[15:24] <xu-irc67w> To understand it. I prefer the pendrive icon because that is more specific
[15:26] <xu-irc67w> I tried some other usb sticks, some have the disk icon and others the pendrive icon
[15:27] <brainwash> changing the type of the device may not be easy/possible
[15:28] <xu-irc67w> I think you are right, I give up :-)
[15:29] <brainwash> you could symlink the unwanted icon to its counterpart, but that is an ugly hack
[15:29] <xu-irc67w> no indeed
[15:30] <xu-irc67w> I just want to understand it, but give up for now
[15:30] <xu-irc67w> thx for your help, cya
[15:30] <brainwash> bye
[16:43] <acagastya> Hi, where is the display server configurations (xinitrc?) located for xubuntu?
[16:44] <acagastya> I have a frozen login screen, and I wondered if I can somehow use a different tool to get in (it also does not let me enter tty)
[16:47] <diogenes_> acagastya, /etc/X11/xinit/
[16:47] <acagastya> All right, looking.
[16:55] <acagastya> Hm it points to /etc/X11/Xsession.
[16:55] <acagastya> And this is how that file looks like: https://dpaste.com/97WGBL2QS
[16:56] <acagastya> I can't seen to figure out which part controls the login window.
[16:57] <diogenes_>  /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[17:01] <acagastya> diogenes_: the problem arose when my colleague tried updating from 18.04 to 20.04 -- said the login screen is frozen and couldn't tty.  Any idea if this is a known problem?
[17:02] <diogenes_> acagastya, a new user?
[17:03] <acagastya> He has been using Xubuntu for years, but doesn't use terminal often.
[17:05] <acagastya> He actually ran the GUI update.  Right now, we are trying to use a live USB, and chrooting to hard drive seeing if we can fix this.
[17:05] <diogenes_> let him use a live usb and move all .dolders and .files from his /home/username to somewhere else.
[17:06] <acagastya> Well that is a way -- asked him to rsync all files he needs to back up.
[17:06] <acagastya> .dolders -- wait, you mean .folders?
[17:07] <diogenes_> yes and no chroot needed.
[17:08] <acagastya> Is a fresh install necessary?
[17:08] <acagastya> If possible, I would rather not have him go through installation again, and moving the files back.
[17:09] <acagastya> But well, `/etc/X11/default-display-manager` points to `/usr/sbin/lightdm`.
[17:17] <acagastya> What the heck.  On my computer, I emptied `/etc/X11/default-display-manager` and it still works fine.