 anything else we need test built?  :P
[00:00] <wxl> no but if you want to do do all our merges that's fine XD
 Quote: <sitter> a notable example of things we don't care about is the binary-without-manpage warning since 99% of stuff are GUI apps and even the ones we aren't we wouldn't care about since we aren't in the business of writing manpages but rather in the business of making binaries"
 *puts you in a bin and lets it fall into the /dev/urandom pool later* (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> no but if you want to do do all our merges that's fine XD)
[00:02] <wxl>  /nick `head -c 32 /dev/urandom | md5sum | awk '{print $1}'`
[00:02] <wxl> oops
[00:03] <wxl> anywho @HMollerCl i did a test build in my container too
[00:03] <wxl> one thing about containers is you need to keep them updated
 yes, I don't know what happened
 lol
 anyway, @wxl23 remember how to update changelog timestamp?
[00:05] <wxl> `dch -r ""`
[00:06] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rUPDATENOTIFIER0969079731fe: update changelog] hmollercl (Hans P. Möller) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rUPDATENOTIFIER0969079731fe
 thanks I will upload then and create the hirsute branch for update-notifier so we have it ready for hirsute
[00:07] <wxl> sounds good!
[00:13] <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <HMollerCl> thanks I "> Let us know when it is ready and one of us can upload it.
[00:19] <wxl> hahahahah https://popey.com/blog/2021/02/dont-use-proposed/
[00:22] <kc2bez[m]> Lol switch to https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed instead.
 Whoops! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> hahahahah https://popey.com/blog/2021/02/dont-use-proposed/)
 CI feeds to this right? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> Lol switch to https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci-proposed instead.)
 when it doesn't blow up that is :P
[01:05] <kc2bez[m]> yes
[01:06] <kc2bez[m]> right from the tip of the main git branch
[03:29] <wxl[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <teward001> CI feeds "> And then there's stable which is basically what's on phab (right)?
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[08:47] <kc2bez[m]> <wxl[m] "And then there's stable which is"> Yes, that is correct. It builds the version in the changelog. 
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[09:08] <wxl[m]> <kc2bez[m] "Yes, that is correct. It builds "> So one could use that to see what devel (lubuntu+1; hippo now) packages are like on stable release versions? 
[09:17] <kc2bez[m]> <wxl[m] "So one could use that to see wha"> Yeah, essentially. It tracks the hirsute branch and then builds them for hirsute, groovy, and focal.
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 ready (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <HMollerCl> thanks I "> Let us know when it is ready and one of us can upload it.)
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[12:53] <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <HMollerCl> ready (re"> uploaded and building in proposed
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[16:25]  * RyuKurisu[m] hopes dealing with multiple squashfs images in Calamares won't mean recompiling 
[16:25]  * RyuKurisu[m] #TerrifiedByTheBacklog
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[19:55] <kc2bez[m]> New l-u-n in Hirsute release pocket now.
[20:28] <wxl> is Discover supposed to be our default app for debs? i thought we were using something else?
[20:30] <kc2bez[m]> We have `qapt` something or other. 
[20:31] <kc2bez[m]> I think mimeapps are setup for that but I don't remember offhand. 
[20:38] <wxl> doesn't look like it on 20.04
[20:44] <kc2bez[m]> dang
[20:46] <kc2bez[m]> I would imagine groovy and Hirsute are the same then. 
[20:46] <wxl> probably but i feel like this is a regression
[20:46] <kc2bez[m]> I agree
[20:47] <wxl> qapt-deb-installer
[20:49] <kc2bez[m]> Yes, that is it. 
[20:50] <RyuKurisu[m]> On GTK based systems I always fall back to gdebi; blazing fast compared to most software stores.  But qapt-deb-installer is new to me.
[20:50] <wxl> i'm confused /ubuntu%252Ffocal/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/mimeapps.list$62
[20:50] <wxl> uhhh
[20:50] <wxl> https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Ffocal/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/mimeapps.list$62
[20:50] <RyuKurisu[m]> Truth be told I don't install deb packages nowadays 😏🙃
[20:52] <wxl> oic line 11
[21:01] <kc2bez[m]> technically either application should work. 
[21:01] <wxl> i've seen problems with discover so i'm switching to q-d-i
[21:08] <wxl> do you agree @kc2bez[m] ? see These people are fake left, and we are going to close all of their accounts: https://freie-linke.de/kontakt-email-laenderebene
[21:08] <wxl> ugh
[21:08] <wxl> see https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/cant-install-chrome-on-lubuntu-20-04-lts/2202/3 that is
 wxl: it SOUNDS Like Discover doesn't like local files because it originates locally from a non-gpg-signed file / "repository"
[21:13] <wxl> yeah i'm not sure
[21:13] <wxl> but i know we changed from discover to begin with because of other problems discover had
[21:14] <wxl> i've got an upload ready if you are in agreement kc2bez
[21:16] <kc2bez[m]> I am good with that wxl
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[21:29] <wxl> sigh in the process of building it seems i lost translations so the upload is borked. luckily that made it fail
[21:30] <wxl> @teward001 what's the right solution for this? get release to delete it (i asked there but haven't heard anything) or can i `dput --force` an upload with the same version?
[21:31] <wxl> oh well maybe i'll just experiment
[21:32] <kc2bez[m]> let me know how it turns out. 
 you've already burned that version string, so fix the upload, reupload with a newer build number it'll supersede the failed version
 at least I think that's what needs to happen
 been a while since I ran into this ;)
[21:33] <wxl> i think you're right
[21:33] <wxl> --force failed
[21:33] <kc2bez[m]> versions are cheap
 yeah unless it lands in the unapproved queue, you've burned the version
 which I did early on with NGINX uploads when I accidentally'd a ~ppa version into the archives xD
 but that was stuck in the queue because autopkgtests failed hard
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[21:46] <kc2bez[m]> wxl: I think I've seen the signature issue mentioned before with Chrome. `sudo apt PATH/TO/DEB` could work too (it is my goto) then the dependencies get installed at the same time. or right click on the thing from pcmanfm-qt and select qapt-deb-installer to open. There are probably a couple of hundred other ways too.
[21:46] <kc2bez[m]> whoops
[21:47] <kc2bez[m]> `sudo apt install PATH/TO/DEB` would probably work better
[21:50] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS80a760f67675: Make qpt-deb-installer default app for Debian packages.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS80a760f67675
 yes, discover appears to get frozen in small machines (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> but i know we changed from discover to begin with because of other problems discover had)
[23:45] <wxl> @HMollerCl here's one for you :) https://discourse.lubuntu.me/t/different-wallpapers-for-different-desktops/2201