[12:06] <Laney> argh I accidentally left hirsute-proposed enabled and dist-upgraded
[12:06] <Laney> give me that NotAutomatic /o\/o\/o\
[12:42] <ed_> hello, why would rust-pam fail to find librust-pam-sys on arm64? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/505374532/buildlog_ubuntu-hirsute-arm64.rust-pam_0.7.0-1_BUILDING.txt.gz
[12:47] <cjwatson> It doesn't fail to find it - it says it's not installable, which is probably about one of its dependencies
[12:47] <cjwatson> Or a coinstallability issue or something
[12:48] <cjwatson> However that package's build-deps seem installable at the moment, so I've retried that build
[12:52] <cjwatson> ed_: Yep, that's worked now on a retry (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rust-pam/0.7.0-1/+build/20213797)
[13:01] <ed_> hey, thanks cjwatson!
[14:36] <RikMills> Laney: https://popey.com/blog/2021/02/dont-use-proposed/
[14:37] <Laney> gee thanks :p
[14:37] <Laney> we've been discussing a plan to make this better on ubuntu-devel@
[14:38] <RikMills> yeah, it needs 'something'
[15:11] <xnox> popey++
[16:42] <rbasak> If NotAutomatic gets set to yes as proposed, then ironically the advice will be the reverse though; that it's fine to have proposed enabled.
[16:42] <rbasak> (and that would become the default then, too)
[16:45] <xnox> rbasak:  we would change ubuntu-release-upgrader to enable it, once it is safe.
[16:46] <xnox> and will also need to change the testing from proposed documentation maybe.
[16:47] <Laney> not maybe, definitely