[04:44] <bluesabre> thanks JackFrost, will explore that
[04:44] <bluesabre> ochosi, JackFrost, any idea what might be happening here? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1910872
[04:44] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1910872 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "Xubuntu default settings are not applied" [Undecided, Confirmed]
[04:45] <JackFrost> I don't think much to explore, just perhaps noteworthy that Ubuntu *may* be switching to the Ayatana fork too.
[04:45] <JackFrost> bluesabre: dpkg -l | grep dbus
[04:47] <bluesabre> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/7FnZf42ZQq/
[04:47] <JackFrost> Install dbus-x11, it'll be fixed.
[04:48] <JackFrost> ....Well the problem will be fixed, you may still need to rm -rf .config/xfce in order to fix your session.
[04:49] <bluesabre> Sure enough, that does it
[04:50] <bluesabre> I'll add that to the core packageset then, unless you think there's a better place for it
[04:50] <JackFrost> xfce4-session, don't add it to the packageset.
[04:51] <bluesabre> Ah, perfect.
[04:51] <JackFrost> ...Well, I mean.  It's an undeclared rec/dep of -session, thus it's not exactly correct to add it to the packageset, though that too would fix it.  I can give details if you desire (though I think I have done so for this issue before.)
[04:52] <bluesabre> Yeah, I remember you mentioning it now on the debian side.
[04:52] <JackFrost> https://salsa.debian.org/xfce-team/desktop/xfce4-session/-/commit/443386b0cf2ae1a62f54952c9b9b9c96f08a83b9
[04:52] <ubot3> Commit 443386b in xfce-team/desktop/xfce4-session "d/control: Revert recommends change from dbus-x11 to default-dbus-session-bus as #836061 needs to be addressed first. (Reopens: #836062)"
[04:52] <bluesabre> I'll add it to -session in the morning. Thanks for your help JackFrost!
[04:52] <JackFrost> Happy to be of help!
[08:25] <ochosi> oh, you guys already figured it out - great :)
[08:26] <ochosi> better to wait for problems to resolve on their own :p