[19:36] <sarnold> cpaelzer: sorry, I lost power; I had hoped the 'not going' link in the calendar entry would have done something useful, bummer :*
[21:13] <cpaelzer> sarnold: ok
[21:13] <cpaelzer> sarnold: don't we all try to ignore calendars :-)
[21:13] <sarnold> cpaelzer: my usual problem is ignoring them when going to bed the night before :)
[21:13] <cpaelzer> sarnold: I hope you are back online and also otherwise ok again
[21:13] <cpaelzer> hehe
[21:13] <sarnold> cpaelzer: yes, all good now, thanks :)
[23:11] <wxl> #startmeeting Community Council meeting
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[23:11] <wxl> welcome everyone to yet another episode of the Community Council meeting
[23:11] <wxl> i'll be your chair today
[23:11] <wxl> unfortunately, i didn't do my job and create an agenda so we'll go off of the minutes from the last meeting
[23:11] <wxl> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/minutes-for-the-2021-02-03-community-council-meeting/20761
[23:12] <wxl> that said…
[23:12] <jose> #chair wxl teward linaporras jose Eickmeyer toddy nhaines
[23:12] <teward> *burps*
[23:12] <meetingology> Current chairs: Eickmeyer, jose, linaporras, nhaines, teward, toddy, wxl
[23:12] <wxl> oh yeah thanks for that. i forget how to work this thing :)
[23:12] <wxl> #topic Local Communities Research Committee
[23:13] <toddy> I have created the vote
[23:13] <wxl> so we have all of our nominations
[23:13] <jose> we have all voted I think
[23:13] <wxl> we didn't get the full representation we wanted globally, but we did pretty good
[23:13] <toddy> yes, but from two regions we have no nominations
[23:14] <wxl> so do we have a tally?
[23:14] <linaporras> Yes we still have that problem, mabe through the research they committee can find active members there...
[23:14] <linaporras> *maybe
[23:15] <jose> I'd say let's give toddy some time to tally and process the votes, and communicate the results via email
[23:15] <toddy> Now, all council members have vote
[23:15] <toddy> I will communicate the results via email
[23:15] <linaporras> cool!
[23:15] <wxl> ok that works
[23:15] <nhaines> yay!
[23:15] <wxl> in any case we're moving forward and that's a good sign
[23:16] <toddy> yes
[23:16] <wxl> outside of informing the members of their new roles, is there anything else we need to do to get them started on the work at hand?
[23:16] <linaporras> I do not know if a meeting with them would be useful...
[23:16] <toddy> should we create a launchpad project for them?
[23:17] <jose> for tracking work items?
[23:17] <jose> that would work
[23:17] <wxl> i think maybe both of those ideas are good ones
[23:17] <toddy> yes
[23:17] <linaporras> 🤔
[23:17] <nhaines> Couldn't hurt.
[23:17] <wxl> maybe we should have them set it up?
[23:19] <jose> either way works for me
[23:19] <toddy> I think we can do it and so we are the owner of the project/group
[23:19] <wxl> ah fair point toddy
[23:19] <wxl> ok so who wants to do that?
[23:19] <toddy> o/
[23:20] <wxl> okie dokie then
[23:20] <wxl> #action toddy to set up a Launchpad project for the LCRC with the CC as owner.
[23:20] <meetingology> ACTION: toddy to set up a Launchpad project for the LCRC with the CC as owner.
[23:20] <wxl> linaporras: do you want to try to set up a meeting? your idea was a good one, i think
[23:21]  * wxl drops a pin
[23:21] <linaporras> Yes
[23:21] <wxl> okie dokie then :)
[23:21]  * nhaines picks up a pin
[23:21] <nhaines> wxl: you dropped this.
[23:21] <wxl> oh!
[23:22] <linaporras> I can do it, we can set the meeting at this channel or do you prefer something like a videocall...
[23:22] <wxl> #acction linaporras to set up a meeting between the LCRC and the CC.
[23:22] <wxl> i kan spel
[23:22] <wxl> #action linaporras to set up a meeting between the LCRC and the CC.
[23:22] <meetingology> ACTION: linaporras to set up a meeting between the LCRC and the CC.
[23:22] <wxl> i don't think it matters too much. whatever works best for the lcrc i think
[23:22] <wxl> anyone else have anything else on the LCRC?
[23:22] <nhaines> That can be their first decision!
[23:23] <wxl> i'll take that apparent silence as a no
[23:23] <linaporras> 😀
[23:23] <wxl> #topic IRC Council
[23:23] <wxl> as i understand nhaines was supposed to report about the IRC Council and the current status of memberships at the last meeting
[23:24] <nhaines> Yes.  I've emailed out (a bit late) and expect to hear back... but by next meeting.
[23:24] <wxl> ok
[23:24] <nhaines> So no updates on that but I'll start harassing people via IRC if I don't hear back in a week.  :)
[23:24] <wxl> #action nhaines to provide status of IRC Council by next meeting.
[23:24] <meetingology> ACTION: nhaines to provide status of IRC Council by next meeting.
[23:24] <nhaines> +1
[23:25] <wxl> i'm going to skip GSOC as it seemed to me like we had generally discounted that idea
[23:25] <wxl> that said
[23:25] <jose> sounds fair
[23:25] <wxl> #topic New business
[23:25] <linaporras> ok
[23:25] <wxl> anything else?
[23:26] <linaporras> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/ANtbzX9s/
[23:26] <linaporras> I saw the e-mail Confusion over ESM and "Standard Support" vs. End of LIfe
[23:26] <linaporras> any news on that?
[23:26] <teward> nothing
[23:26] <linaporras> Sorry by the snippet...
[23:26] <teward> that literally went out last night
[23:26] <teward> so it's very new in the list.
[23:27] <teward> THIS SAID
[23:27] <linaporras> Ok... Guess could be a topic for our next meeting... to see how that evolves... is that ok?
[23:27] <teward> there seems to be consensus among multiple individuals that we need hard definitions made
[23:27] <teward> hence the email going out
[23:27] <teward> (hggdh of the IRCC agreed)
[23:27] <wxl> i agree
[23:27] <wxl> teward: can i assign an item to you to report on your findings next meeting?
[23:27] <teward> message was CC'd to the Community Council and TB, and I have an email to CC responses to for IRCC.
[23:27] <nhaines> I agree, I think the categories are pretty simple, we just need them defined.
[23:28] <teward> wxl: assuming I get any responses, yes.
[23:28] <nhaines> Because they've changed since the beginning.  :)
[23:28] <teward> indeed, not to mention we need a firmer definition of "at what point should the Community Support Options be unsuable?" and generally that'd be "End of Standard Support"
[23:28] <wxl> #topic teward to provide an update by next meeting on the ESM/Standard Support/EoL confusion
[23:29] <wxl> ugh i made that a topic?
[23:29] <teward> namely that ESM as a paid service has Paid Support which is the only way to get extended support via Canonical
[23:29] <wxl> wow help me
[23:29] <teward> wxl: *wags the Finger of Shame at you*
[23:29] <wxl> #action teward to provide an update by next meeting on the ESM/Standard Support/EoL confusion
[23:29] <meetingology> ACTION: teward to provide an update by next meeting on the ESM/Standard Support/EoL confusion
[23:29] <wxl> so moving on
[23:29] <wxl> #topic any other business
[23:29] <wxl> anything else??/
[23:31] <nhaines> I do want to mention that Ubuntu members get ESM, too.  I forget if that's available to the community for a couple machines as well.
[23:31] <wxl> huh i didn't know that
[23:31] <nhaines> But it's similar to the Livepatch situation.
[23:31] <wxl> ok well it sounds like that's it so i'm going to call the meeting in 10 seconds
[23:31] <jose> i do
[23:31] <jose> just wanted to bring you up to speed
[23:31] <nhaines> jose with the last minute.
[23:32] <linaporras> jajajaja
[23:32] <wxl> second, almost
[23:32] <jose> Canonical now has two community representatives, Rhys and Monica. I'll be meeting with them within the month in order to chat about their role and what our priorities are, so they can also help us with moving forward any items that might need an insider push
[23:32] <wxl> nice!
[23:32] <nhaines> \o/
[23:32] <toddy> cool
[23:33] <wxl> #info Canonical now has two community representatives, Rhys and Monica!
[23:33] <madhens> Hello, all :)
[23:33] <nhaines> madhens: hello!  :)
[23:33] <wxl> oh hai
[23:33] <wxl> NICE
[23:33] <madhens> I just wanted to drop in casually but I am so excited about working with all of you, and please, reach out here or at monica.ayhens.madon@canonical.com anytime. :)
[23:34] <linaporras> the benefit... that mention  nhaines, we should put it here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership, right?
[23:34] <nhaines> After we confirm it, yes.
[23:34] <wxl> OH WAIT IT'S YOU, MONICA???? oh man, this is great!
[23:34] <linaporras> Hi, nice to meet u
[23:34] <jose> I would delegate that item to the RMBs since they own the membership process
[23:34] <madhens> wxl: Hahahahaha!!!
[23:35] <jose> welcome to the party :)
[23:35] <linaporras> I found this: https://ubuntu.com/blog/ua-services-deployed-from-the-command-line-with-ua-client but yes we can confirm and delegate...
[23:35] <madhens> jose: Thank you! Next time I'll bring snacks. :)
[23:35] <nhaines> linaporras: yes, I thought I remembered that.  Thanks! :)
[23:36] <wxl> don't forget the tea!
[23:36] <madhens> lina: Very nice to meet you too!
[23:36] <jose> that's all I had, I'll share more news as I have them. It's going to be a long working cycle, I'm sure :)
[23:36] <madhens> wxl: Oh, I never forget the tea. :)
[23:36] <nhaines> madhens: Welcome! :)
[23:36] <linaporras> cool!
[23:36] <wxl> ditto that :)
[23:37] <madhens> nhaines: Hello, and thank you!
[23:37] <linaporras> so for the benefit jose... for the delegation an update of that item... can you write to them or ?
[23:39] <jose> would you be able to take that action item, please? I'm a bit busy with work so can't make a commitment at this point
[23:39] <linaporras> ok i'll do it
[23:39] <linaporras> no problem
[23:39] <jose> thank you :)
[23:39] <wxl> this is updating the membership thingy?
[23:39] <wxl> with esm?
[23:40] <linaporras> yes
[23:40] <wxl> ok
[23:40] <linaporras> confirm the benefit and updated
[23:40] <linaporras> update it
[23:40] <linaporras> jaja
[23:40] <wxl> #action linaporras to confirm that Ubuntu members get ESM as a benefit and update the wiki accordingly.
[23:40] <meetingology> ACTION: linaporras to confirm that Ubuntu members get ESM as a benefit and update the wiki accordingly.
[23:41] <wxl> ok we done now?
[23:41] <jose> no
[23:41] <jose> we have to choose a chair for the next meeting
[23:41] <linaporras> me
[23:42] <linaporras> i told u the previous meeting
[23:42] <jose> oh okay, I forgot
[23:42] <jose> there, problem solved
[23:42] <jose> now we done
[23:42] <linaporras> I will do my first chair here jeje
[23:42] <nhaines> That was easy!
[23:42] <nhaines> Thanks linaporras  :)
[23:42] <wxl> #action linaporras is our next meeting chair!
[23:42] <meetingology> ACTION: linaporras is our next meeting chair!
[23:42] <wxl> ok now we're done? :)
[23:42] <linaporras>  👍
[23:43] <wxl> ok shutting it down then
[23:43] <wxl> thanks everyone
[23:43] <wxl> #endmeeting
[23:43] <meetingology> Meeting ended at 23:43:10 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-02-17-23.11.moin.txt
[23:43] <toddy> thanks wxl for chairing
[23:43] <wxl> np
[23:43] <linaporras> ☕
[23:44] <madhens> Great to see you all, and jose, just let Rhys and I know whenever you'd like to meet!
[23:44] <jose> Rhys will be setting up some time soon - I'll ping him otherwise :) I poked him yesterday, tried to reach you but it seems like you were still being onboarded
[23:46] <madhens> Yuuuuup. Yesterday was my first day!
[23:46] <wxl> many congrats madhens, seriously. and so glad to see you in particular filling that role. you'll do great!
[23:47] <nhaines> madhens: congrats!  :)
[23:47] <madhens> wxl thank you so much. That really means a lot, and I'm really excited to get in and to start helping in a role that really can help. :)
[23:48] <toddy> madhens: congrats and welcome to the show :)
[23:48] <madhens> toddy: Thanks! Good thing I pop my own popcorn. :D
[23:48] <toddy> :D
[23:49] <linaporras> 🍿
[23:50] <madhens> Speaking of food, I am going to go poke around my friends for something I can turn into dinner! But have a good night/late afternoon, wherever everyone is, and I'll see you all in two weeks, if not sooner!
[23:50] <madhens> My fridge, even.
[23:50] <wxl> night be well!
[23:51] <toddy> Oh yes, it is time for the bed. good night!
[23:55] <linaporras> see u