[00:02] <lt> and hello and from sony vaio :) jiggawattz
[00:02] <lt> oops I mean jivan:
[00:22] <matsaman> !spam | leftyfb
[00:22] <ubottu> leftyfb: Please don't spam
[00:23] <leftyfb> matsaman: can I help you with something?
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[01:38] <ezzieyguywuf> do I have to install coreutils, or is it installed by default?
[01:38] <ezzieyguywuf> I'm interested in nproc, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/nproc.1.html
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[02:10] <hggdh> ezzieyguywuf: coreutils is installed by default
[02:15] <Rochvellon> hiho. I've got a problem with audio. As a user I cannot use the audio device even though the user is in the group audio. If I run aplay with sudo it's not a problem. As user there is no device listet in settings -> Audio. Running "aplay -l" as a user there is the same output as running with sudo. Using 20.04. Any ideas?
[02:25] <dho> Curious if anyone's familiar with configuring a dual stack router on ubuntu. It seems that netplan.io makes prefix delegation impossible, and I haven't really done much in the way of system configuration/administration in about 15 years. Feeling a bit lost.
[02:29] <foxide> dho: Sure. netplan just isn't suited for those functions. systemd-networkd, however, supports DHCPv6-PD out of the box.
[02:30] <foxide> So basically you're just cutting out the middleman.
[02:42] <dho> Thanks. Is it enough for me to enable forwarding, configure a prefix delegation, and set up radvd? Or am I missing something else?
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[04:01] <prologic> Hi 👋 I have a few production Ubuntu 16.04-LTS servers where apt-get is failing to verify some package repos due to a missing GPG key. I can't get the GPG key from keyserver.ubuntu.com becuase it doesn't appear to be on that keyserve ranymore :/ B7F6840C is the key fingerprint. Where can I get this key from?
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[06:14] <zmagii> Which program is good to use to adjust an external monitor brightness?
[06:14] <zmagii> (Note that xrandr doesn't change the hardware brightness in the way that manually setting it on the screen does.)
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[07:30] <Chr15P_1968> Hi, I need to configure grub2 to ask for a login when you want to edit any of the menu entries, The only guides I could find requires you to use a username and password when the system boots. We are moving from Centos to Ubuntu so I'm a bit new to the Ubuntu way of things, was a simple excersize on grub that ships with Centos to achieve what I
[07:30] <Chr15P_1968> needed. Is there a way in grub2 that ships with Ubuntu 20.04?
[07:36] <guiverc> zmagii, i did some testing a few cycles back on various boxes with lxqt-backlight, lxqt-config-brightness etc and the results varied depending on chipset in use.. ie. it maybe dependent on your hardware being used  (no one solution fits all, at least on the 16 devices I used for tesing); some had no control over external display, same command on different hardware had control..
[08:12] <deki_01> Hi to all!
[08:15] <deki_01> I have aVirtualBox Ubuntu-VM and if I connect to the git someetime it works sometime not, than I have to disable and enable again the network and than it works again do I have to add something to the /etc/network/interface?
[08:22] <SteelRose> deki_01: which network type are you using?
[08:24] <deki_01> SteelRose: NATservice and Bridged
[08:25] <Chr15P_1968> Yeah, looks like I'm buggered with grub2 protecting menuentries, tried a coupe more things and all fails
[08:26] <deki_01> so if i like to connect via ssh to the VM I use the bridged, and if I have to push to the git I have to disable the Bridged and stop/start the the Natservice
[08:26] <SteelRose> deki_01: use NAT or Bridged ...
[08:27] <deki_01> so I can not use both at the same time
[08:27] <SteelRose> deki_01: Bridged should be enough then for your needs: 1. you can ssh into the box, 2. you can access the internet
[08:27] <SteelRose> deki_01: I always use only one type of network and it works well
[08:30] <deki_01> SteelRose: Thanks I will try that, it works somethimes I have to use both so I have to disable the one
[08:37] <SteelRose> Chr15P_1968: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Passwords <-- is this what you are looking for?
[08:57] <Chr15P_1968> @SteelRose  when I add set superusers and password to 00_headers as per the uide, I get the error /etc/grub.d/00_header: 457: password_pbkdf2: not found or /etc/grub.d/00_header: 457: password: not found
[08:57] <Chr15P_1968> when running update-grub
[09:43] <Hamidreza> Hi guys, what is LimitMEMLOCK and the eefect of adjusting it in systemd on service?
[10:26] <SteelRose> Chr15P_1968: apologies... I cannot help you further. Like you, I'm still getting accustomed to the Ubuntu way :-)
[10:33] <ikonia> Chr15P_1968: how did you do it in CentOS ?
[10:35] <Chr15P_1968> @ikona - please see below
[10:36] <Chr15P_1968> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/K3yzDyM8DM/
[10:38] <ikonia> why does that not work in Ubuntu, it looks inline with the standard grub approach https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub/html_node/Authentication-and-authorisation.html
[10:41] <Chr15P_1968> the 01_user file doesn't exist, update-grub doesn't recognize the file either. also the grub2-setpassword doesnt exist
[10:43] <ikonia> create the file ? grub2-setpassword isn't that a link to passwd_pbkdf2
[10:44] <ikonia> (I'm not %100 sure it's been a while since I needed to do this)
[10:46] <Chr15P_1968> grub-mkpasswd-pbkdf2 only generated the password hash, grub2-setpassword (creates /boot/grub2/user.cfg)
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[10:48] <TR1950X> I am getting a dependencies conflicts issue. I have the package opsview-agent (with dpkg --force-all) and nagios-nrpe-server installed. Now I am getting this when I do apt-get install apache2:  opsview-agent : Conflicts: nagios-nrpe-server but 2.12-5ubuntu1.2 is to be installed
[10:48] <TR1950X> is there a way to ignore the depency issues of nagios-nrpe-server and opsview-agent?
[10:49] <TR1950X> I am running the opsview-agent (essentially the same as nagios) and nagios-nrpe-server on the same machine listening on different ports.
[10:50] <ikonia> Chr15P_1968: check if it's in a different grub package
[10:51] <ikonia> it may just be seperated out into multiple grub packages
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[11:10] <TR1950X> no one?
[11:17] <ikonia> no-one what ?
[11:24] <guiverc> TR1950X, the package you provided is from 12.04 LTS which is EOL; 12.04 ESM is supported by Canonical through Ubuntu Advantage, and not here.
[11:44] <zmagii> guiverc: Any idea on Dell monitors...?
[11:48] <ikonia> ideas on what ?
[11:53] <Koopz> alright you guys i'm trying to virtualize a really old server running 10.04.4 LTS
[11:54] <Koopz> so i made a backup of the still living machine and put it on our NAS, now i'm failing at mounting the NAS on the VM
[11:54] <ikonia> ok ?
[11:55] <Koopz> because i need cifs-utils and obviously all repositories are down
[11:56] <ikonia> if you've virtualised the image - it will contain the right packages
[11:56] <ikonia> you won't need anything
[11:56] <ikonia> also look at the old-releases URL
[11:56] <ikonia> see if the repos still exist
[11:57] <Koopz> the backup is not a direct image of the machine
[11:57] <Koopz> we made a fresh install of 10.04.4 and plan to tar -x the backup onto that
[12:00] <Koopz> oh nvm i currently have DNS issues
[12:00] <Koopz> is it normal to have no /etc/resolv.conf?
[12:02] <ikonia> no
[12:02] <ikonia> and you should %1000000000 not tar xvf over the top of a system
[12:02] <ikonia> that would be a terrible solution unless it's just data
[12:03] <Koopz> i'm actually just following internal documentations i'm very aware this is very stupid :D
[12:04] <Koopz> the entirety of /etc/ will be overwritten for example
[12:04] <ikonia> good luck then
[12:22] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[12:28] <zmagii> ikonia: They replied earlier on my question which was to ask how to change brightness on external monitor. Problem is that xrandr doesn't change the hardware (backlight) brightness; it just puts a veil on the screen, of sorts.
[12:43] <isene> Need a cli one-liner to extract text from an MS pptx presentation. Tried Googling around but didn't get a hit.
[12:43] <ikonia> not really an ubuntu problem
[12:45] <isene> Well, I do run Ubuntu - and I would like to add to my question what underlying packages to install to make the one-liner work...
[12:46] <lotuspsychje> !discuss | isene
[12:46] <ubottu> isene: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!
[12:48] <ikonia> isene: I'm not aware of any package that would supply that tool, it will depend what format the ppt is saved in
[13:09] <mra90> how does command "python3" is associated wwith particular python version like 3.5?
[13:10] <mra90> like I see the system has several pythons installed 3.5 3.6 3.9 but somehows shell command python3 returns python3.5
[13:12] <pizzaiolo> mra90 i think that's from whatever version is included in your $PATH
[13:12] <mra90> looks liek there is a symlink in /usr/bin/python3
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[13:57] <rory> What is it about the version of "grep" that ships with Ubuntu that causes it to recurse on the current directory when "grep -r foo" is used?
[13:57] <rory> as opposed to the BSD version that comes with OSX, *or* the GNU version that comes via Brew (what prompted my question as I assumed the GNU version was what Ubuntu shipped)
[13:58] <rory> I mean so you don't have to say "grep -r foo ."
[14:04] <ikonia> it is the gnu version
[14:04] <ikonia> gnu has always been grep string path
[14:05] <rory> Right but on Ubuntu you can omit the path and it assumes PWD
[14:05] <rory> whereas the "GNU Grep" in Brew requires you to explicitly put the path
[14:06] <rory> So I was wondering who deviated, and what the story is
[14:06] <ikonia> rory: same behaviour on all the gnu builds I've got from debian, ubuntu, rhel and centos (not got a suse box to hand)
[14:07] <rory> you're saying when you run "grep -r test" it sits and waits for input rather than recursively grepping whatever directory you're in for "test" ?
[14:07] <ikonia> rory: no, when I run grep -r test it start from cwd
[14:08] <rory> So it's more likely the "GNU Grep" in Homebrew has been patched to give behaviour more similar to what OSX users expect
[14:08] <ikonia> no idea, I'm that used to having to do grep string path (like you) that I've never had to not include path so never noticed it
[14:09] <ikonia> but the behaviour is the same all all the gnu linux grep builds I've got to hand
[14:09] <rory> That was my real question tbh. Who is the "real" GNU Grep, and it sounds like it's definitely what Ubuntu ships
[14:09] <Patrick_> redhat
[14:09] <Patrick_> slackware
[14:09] <rory> That anecdotal evidence means a lot too. I have my answer.
[14:09] <Patrick_> im running slackware
[14:09] <Patrick_> jk
[14:09] <rory> well you are named Patrick_ :)
[14:09] <Patrick_> slackware 1997\
[14:09] <ikonia> rory: read the gnu man page
[14:09] <ikonia> it's expected behaviour
[14:10] <ikonia> <quote> Note that if no file operand is given, grep searches the working directory. </quote>
[14:10] <Patrick_> redhat 1.2
[14:11] <rory> ikonia, interesting, the manpage that comes with Homebrew GNU Grep also keeps that line... but the behaviour is different. But it's offtopic now.
[14:12] <ikonia> indeed
[14:12] <rory> tl;dr - OSX is odd
[14:12] <Patrick_> microhard
[14:13] <longshanks> hi. i have a headset for web meetings. I can't seem to get the microphone that is built into it work as an input device in Ubuntu 20.10. Any pointers?
[14:15] <rory> hi longshanks is it a bluetooth headset?
[14:15] <rory> longshanks, go to Sound preferences, go to Hardware tab. Select your headset from the device list. Make sure the Profile dropdown is set to "duplex" and not "output"
[14:16] <longshanks> rory: it's a wired one via 3.5mm jack
[14:16] <longshanks> corsair HS-35
[14:16] <longshanks> rory: Does your advice still apply?
[14:17] <rory> is it a single 3.5mm jack?
[14:17] <longshanks> yes
[14:19] <rory> advice still applies for whatever is in the device list in Hardware tab of Sound preferences. Your on-board sound device.
[14:19] <rory> confirm it's duplex and not output.
[14:20] <rory> Question zero: do you know your computer has a 3.5mm port than works as both an input and output simultaneously?
[14:21] <Patrick_> there is a new os out
[14:21] <Patrick_> microhard
[14:22] <Patrick_> microhard windows 2.3
[14:22] <Patrick_> lame joke?
[14:22] <Patrick_> lol
[14:22] <Patrick_> microharder linux
[14:22] <coredumb1> Hello
[14:22] <Patrick_> there is a new os out
[14:22] <Patrick_> microhard windows 2.3
[14:23] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Patrick_
[14:23] <ubottu> Patrick_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[14:24] <longshanks> rory: it worked OK with the previous O/S before I put Ubuntu on it; so I know the hardware is capable of that. I don't see the device listed in the hardware tab though in Settings->Sound. Though I don't see a hardware tab, I do see hardware in drop-downs.
[14:25] <rory> OK sorry I am on a slightly different version of Ubuntu than you so the GUI is different, but the principle is the same
[14:25] <Patrick_> rory try microharder linux 3
[14:25] <coredumb1> I'm trying to run firefox inside a rootless podman container, and I have an AppArmor denial on the sound access.
[14:25] <coredumb1> apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" info="Failed name lookup - disconnected path" error=-13 profile="firefox" name="run/user/1000/pulse/native" pid=5002 comm=417564696F49504320536572766572 requested_mask="wr" denied_mask="wr" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[14:25] <coredumb1> As you can see the denied path is missing the leading / ... I believe it has something to do with the userns but I can't pinpoint what from the documentation.... Any idea ??
[14:25] <rory> There will be an option to choose if you want "Analogue stereo duplex" and you do want that
[14:26] <Patrick_> rory it always works dude
[14:26]  * Patrick_ wonders if its his old friend rory
[14:26] <rory> Probably is, come to #ubuntu-offtopic and find out
[14:28] <longshanks> rory: I don't see that option. Can you just confirm which app I should be using. I have just used settings->sound.
[14:30] <Patrick_> urartu ubuntu
[14:31] <rory> I don't have a Unity based Ubuntu Desktop in front of me right now, I was using MATE, I've just checked and yeah that option is not there on Ubuntu normal edition
[14:31] <rory> I remember now though: I had to install pavucontrol package and run pavucontrol (Pulseaudio Volume Control) - it contains that setting
[14:31] <rory> But that was a few years ago so someone else might chime in
[14:31] <longshanks> I shall try that. trying now...
[14:33] <herol3oy> hi. how can i create a live usb from my currently installed ubuntu on my laptop?
[14:35] <lotuspsychje> !usb | herol3oy
[14:35] <ubottu> herol3oy: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[14:35] <rory> herol3oy, do you mean to create a live USB in order to install a fresh Ubuntu ? If so then ^
[14:35] <herol3oy> no no
[14:35] <rory> herol3oy, if you want to convert your installation to a persistent live environment, I don't think that's possible nowadays
[14:36] <coredumb1> well not easily at least
[14:36] <herol3oy> create a clone to a usb from my currently installed ubuntu on my laptop and use it as live operating system?
[14:36] <longshanks> rory: on configuration tab in pavucontrol i only see Built-in Audio, not the plugged-in device. the built-in audio is set to analogue stero duplex but i dont see the hardware for the headset to set that identically.
[14:36] <rory> Anything you do find would be very out of date, probably not work, and would involve horrible hacks
[14:37] <rory> It's better to make a new persistent live USB, and try to set it up the same as your current one - possibly by copying your entire home directory (which contains settings for your user)
[14:37] <rory> e.g. if you copied your entire home directory in this way, you'd keep your browser history and everything
[14:38] <herol3oy> rory, thanks ;)
[14:39] <rory> longshanks, that's fine, the only entry will be internal audio.
[14:39] <rory> I was hoping it wouldn't be set to duplex, that makes this a Not So Trivial problem
[14:41] <longshanks> Eek
[14:43] <rory> longshanks, On the Input Devices tab in pavucontrol are there multiple options in the "Port" dropdown?
[14:43] <rory> e.g. to select between integrated mic and 3.5mm jack
[14:44] <longshanks> So in that tab, in that dropdown we have: Line-in (unplugged) or Microphone.
[14:45] <tmm88> heyho
[14:46] <rory> longshanks, can you run this command to show audio hardware: aplay --list-devices
[14:46] <rory> longshanks, share the longest line, it'll look something like: card 0: I82801AAICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH], device 0: Intel ICH [Intel 82801AA-ICH]
[14:46] <rory> if there are more than one "card 0" / "card 1" share all of them
[14:48] <longshanks> rory: card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 0: CS4206 Analog [CS4206 Analog]
[14:49] <longshanks> rory: card 0: MID [HDA Intel MID], device 1: CS4206 Digital [CS4206 Digital]
[14:50] <rory> checking
[14:50] <rory> It's a Macbook right?
[14:51] <longshanks> rory: yes. MacBook 6,2. Running Ubuntu 20.10.
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[14:52] <rory> longshanks, Add the following line to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[14:52] <rory> options snd-hda-intel model=mba6
[14:53] <rory> longshanks, to edit the file use: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
[14:53] <rory> Then reboot. Should be solved.
[14:55] <longshanks> rory: OK. Have done that. going to reboot :) wish me luck!
[14:56] <rory> Edward the 1st of England does not need luck
[14:58] <rory> please tell longshanks I'm afk for 30-60 minutes
[15:01] <longshanks> rory: alas, the input device is still the built-in microphone rather than the one in the headset :(
[15:02] <longshanks> it's actually the only thing I've not managed to get working since wiping the disk and sticking Ubuntu on. which is good! but need the headset for web meetings. the inbuilt mic gets washed out by the noise of the fan.
[15:05] <mtn> longshanks: have you tried using pavucontrol?
[15:06] <longshanks> mtn: yup
[15:07] <mtn> longshanks: is it set to the correct device in the config tab and output tabs?
[15:08] <longshanks> Built-in audio set to Analogue stereo duplex on Configuration tab. on input devices tab i only see under Ports, Microphone (currently selected) or Line in (unplugged)
[15:10] <yates> i am using oracle virtualbox to run an lubuntu 18.04.5 LTS in guest os under fedora 32 and i cannot get the shared clipboard (bidirectional) to work
[15:10] <yates> i've installed guest additions and enabled bidirectional copy/paste
[15:10] <yates> is this a known issue?
[15:12] <longshanks> yates: if you do lsmod do you see all the vbox modules loaded?
[15:13] <yates> longshanks: i only see vboxguest
[15:13] <yates> lsmod | grep -i vbox
[15:13] <yates> did you mean on the host or on the guest?
[15:13] <yates> i meant on the guest
[15:14] <yates> on the host: https://paste.centos.org/view/a692d04
[15:14] <Patrick_> dial up 1997 irc internet linux newbie days efnet
[15:14] <yates> on the host: https://paste.centos.org/view/a692d040
[15:15] <longshanks> yates: yeah. That should be fine. I know *some* features require the non-free guest additions (or used to) so it might be you have to get the additonal (non-free) guest additions too for the bi-directional clipboard integration. Dunno, not used it since Oracle took it over.
[15:16] <Patrick_> shot gunning two 56K modems for extra speeds
[15:16] <longshanks> yates: what version of VirtualBox is it?
[15:18] <yates> 6.1.18
[15:18] <yates> from the dnf package manager in f32
[15:18] <yates> (actually from RPMFusion)
[15:19] <yates> https://paste.centos.org/view/17fa3744
[15:19] <longshanks> well 6.1.4 had that problem.. i found a bug report.. https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/19336
[15:20] <longshanks> workaround was/is to use test version of guest additions
[15:20] <yates> perhaps i installed the wrong version of ga.
[15:24] <longshanks> rory: I don't find my sound here as mbp6 https://www.kernel.org/doc/html/latest/sound/hd-audio/models.html#cirrus-logic-cs4206-4207
[15:24] <longshanks> cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* | grep Codec
[15:24] <longshanks> shows.. Cirrus Logic CS4206.
[15:25] <longshanks> So just checking that adding options snd-hda-intel model=mba6, to that file was correct?
[15:27] <coredumb1> I'm trying to run firefox inside a rootless podman container, and I have an AppArmor denial on the sound access.
[15:27] <coredumb1> apparmor="DENIED" operation="connect" info="Failed name lookup - disconnected path" error=-13 profile="firefox" name="run/user/1000/pulse/native" pid=5002 comm=417564696F49504320536572766572 requested_mask="wr" denied_mask="wr" fsuid=1000 ouid=1000
[15:27] <coredumb1> As you can see the denied path is missing the leading / ... I believe it has something to do with the userns but I can't pinpoint what from the documentation.... Any idea ??
[15:59] <non_AI> hi guys, one fast question.. find / -name "somefile.log"
[16:00] <non_AI> if nothing is found, file doesn't exist, right?
[16:01] <lotuspsychje> non_AI: try in ##linux
[16:02] <non_AI> ok thanks lotuspsychje
[16:02] <mozzarella> non_AI: it can be somewhere you don't have access to
[16:03] <non_AI> mozzarella, I am root:)
[16:03] <non_AI> i am learning linux, be patient with me
[16:42] <longshanks> rory: if you're still about, do you have anything else to suggest to get the headphone-mic working on this headset ?
[16:52] <remby> does packagekit install the same package apt would?
[16:53] <remby> I installed bison but at the link phase in cannot find liby
[16:53] <zmagii> I have forgotten how much #ubuntu is a waste of time...
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[17:20] <summonner> Books are good though
[17:30] <ivo_cavalcante> someone "versed" on UFW here?
[17:30] <ivo_cavalcante> :)
[17:30] <ivo_cavalcante> does it support "zones", as FirewallD ?
[17:32] <Younder> sudo apt moo.. REALLY ;)
[17:33] <Younder> Not the most useful command
[17:34] <felixi> but it is
[17:35] <Younder> Well we all need our easter-eggs
[17:38] <Younder> Anyhow today was dominated by iMX8-plus with a DNN accelerator capable of 2.3 TOPS with int8
[17:39] <Younder> Coming out in march.
[17:40] <leftyfb> !ot | Younder
[17:40] <ubottu> Younder: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!
[17:42] <Younder> Yes, Ubuntu is just run by the NVIDIA Jetson series of edge devices
[17:47] <leftyfb> Younder: please go to #ubuntu-offtopic to chat about non-support issues
[17:51] <leftyfb> Younder: please do not PM
[17:54] <Younder> fine enjoy your silence
[18:00] <TJ-> Do we have a tool to compare package Depends: between releases and highlight problems on the earlier release (to help identify issues when needing to backport a package) ?
[18:01] <pizzaburger> Hi! I've got an ASUS OS200 USB-C dongle to connect my external monitor. All the ports work except the video ones (HDMI and VGA). Went to the site to get drivers and there's only Windows ones. Is there any way to make this dongle work running Ubuntu 20.10? Thanks!
[18:03] <TJ-> pizzaburger: check the kernel log for clues as to whether the devices are showing up in any way
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[18:10] <ikonia> TJ-: there used to be a tool that could compare the release notes between packages, but I think it was hard to maintain as the release note format/structure changed a few times
[18:10] <ikonia> it was quite a long time ago
[18:10] <ikonia> I'm not sure there is anything current like that
[18:11] <TJ-> rmadison and chdist do the basic package version stuff, but not found a tool to actually compare the Depends as declared in the debian/control file
[18:13] <TJ-> I'm investigating backporting network-manager-gnome from hirsute to focal to add nm-connection-editor support for Wireguard tunnels in the GUI
[18:24] <pizzaburger> TJ-: I ran "tail -f /var/log/kern.log", here's the partial output: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/kcVqGB22Nx/ . The "SerialNumber: 0000051B9A0D25" is the hub in question
[18:27] <TJ-> pizzaburger: problem is likely elated to "pcieport 0000:04:02.0: BAR 15: no space for"
[18:28] <TJ-> pizzaburger: show us "pastebinit <( sudo lspci -vvnnk )" with the hub connected
[18:29] <pizzaburger> TJ-: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/BQ9Wx2cScV/
[18:30] <Rochvellon> I've got a problem with audio. As a user I cannot use the audio device even though the user is in the group audio. If I run "aplay some.wav" with sudo it's not a problem. As user there is no device listet in settings -> Audio. Running "aplay -l" as a user there is the same output as running with sudo. Using 20.04. Any ideas?
[18:31] <pizzaburger> TJ-: Sorry, I have another hub plugged in too, let me unplug that and repaste
[18:34] <vlm> Any way other than iptables i could setup quotas on network traffic?
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[18:36] <pizzaburger> Back
[18:36] <TJ-> pizzaburger: the lack of address space to map those BARs (Base Address Register) entries is the problem.  Try adding "pci=realloc" to the kernel command line on a reboot
[18:37] <TJ-> pizzaburger: each PCI(e) device has a configuration part of which lists ranges of address space it requires to be mapped into the host address space. That system has run out of sufficient space on the host to map to
[18:38] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: Would a clean reinstall of Ubuntu 20.10 partially solve the issue?
[18:38] <TJ-> pizzaburger: if realloc doesn't help, you might beed to play with "pci=hpmemsize=XXXX" where XXXX is some address-space size e.g. 2G
[18:38] <TJ-> pizzaburger: no
[18:39] <TJ-> pizzaburger: your problem is all those PCIe bridges requiring to map address space and the host has no large enough spaces available when that device is being probed
[18:41] <TJ-> pizzaburger: an option that might help more is "pci=skip_isa_align" which will avoid unused gaps in the address space that are too small for the requested allocations
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[18:45] <pizzaburger> TJ-: Ok rebooting, brb
[18:54] <Simon12345> Anyone handy with basic scripting questions?  Having trouble with environment variables.
[18:55] <Simon12345> Setting an environment variable as a commandline argument which is a path to a file, and it's acting weird.
[18:55] <Simon12345> http://pastie.org/p/0deXg0kbL7iQDokK3PA4Su
[18:55] <Simon12345>  if I do a printenv, it looks exactly as it should when I set it, but I can't pass it as an app launch argument. does the same with nano, so a don't think it's the app.
[18:56] <ikonia> try #bash
[18:56] <ikonia> (I'm assuming you're writing a bash script)
[18:56] <Simon12345> yes
[18:57] <TJ-> Simon12345: does it contain spaces? if so /app/liquidsoap "$LIQUIDSOAP_SCRIPT"
[18:57] <Simon12345> no spaces
[18:58] <TJ-> Simon12345: so what does "line 1" actually contain, since that is where the error appears to be
[18:58] <Simon12345> It does the on the bash console also.
[18:59] <Simon12345> if I just type /app/liquidsoap $LIQUIDSOAP_SCRIPT   I get the same issue.
[18:59] <Simon12345> if I type nano $LIQUIDSOAP_SCRIPT  that also fails and looks like it's trying to edit a directory
[18:59] <TJ-> Simon12345: so is there a syntax error in /music/gm.lic ?
[18:59] <Simon12345> no, nano fails also
[18:59] <TJ-> Simon12345: is gm.lic a file?
[19:00] <Simon12345> yes
[19:00] <Simon12345> in a mounted share called /music
[19:00] <TJ-> Simon12345: so you've a directory /music/ off the root of the file system?
[19:00] <Simon12345> I can type the command literal without environment and it's fine.
[19:00] <TJ-> Simon12345: how is the variable being set? it may contain invisible control codes
[19:01] <TJ-> Simon12345: try "echo $LIQUIDSOAP_SCRIPT | hexdump -C" and look carefully
[19:02] <Simon12345> It's inside a docker container without internet access, and no hexdump command :-(
[19:02] <TJ-> Simon12345: sometimes UTF-8 characters can be mistaken for very similar-looking ASCII characters, and only examining the byte values reveals that
[19:04] <TJ-> Simon12345: I just noticed your pastebin shows a typo - when it works you've got gm.liq but your variable has gm.lic
[19:05] <TJ-> Simon12345: Q vs C
[19:07] <Simon12345> Gutted.  That fixed it.   You won't believe how many times I looked at that code!
[19:07] <Simon12345> the random error message it gave (and not "file not found") threw me.
[19:09] <Simon12345> Many thanks.   A new set of eyes.
[19:56] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: Ok back. So I've done two things - grabbed a spare laptop so I don't have to drop off, and realized I don't know how to access the kernel command line
[19:58] <TJ-> pizzaburger: at boot-time? Get to the GRUB menu and edit the entry, which for BIOS boots means either holding down Shift key as soon as BIOS hands over to GRUB, or for both BIOS and UEFI boot modes, tapping Esc key at that moment (UEFI doesn't have the ability to report toggle-mode keys (shift, ctrl, alt)
[19:58] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: Moreover, I have another USB-C hub which has HDMI working fine, but it "shuts off" pretty frequently, disconnecting everything that's plugged in it. That's the reason behind testing this other new hub which doesn't work via HDMI and VGA ports
[20:00] <TJ-> pizzaburger: once you've got to the GRUB menu, you'll see the 'default' entry first, press 'e' to edit it, navigate down to the line beginning "linux ..." and add the options on the end, space separated, then press Ctrl+X to execute the kernel with those options one-time (they are not saved for subsequent boots)
[20:00] <pizzaburger> TJ-: Furthermore, there's a Linux Firmware Update on GRUB which doesn't work; AND also the 3.5mm audo jack on the laptop emmits a static noise when connected to speakers, but only if there's no sound playing. The sound is gone if I run a Whonix GW/WS setup.
[20:00] <TJ-> pizzaburger: the other way to do it is boot to Ubuntu, edit the file /etc/default/grub and add the options to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="..." string, save, then do "update-grub"
[20:01] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: A year or so ago you've also mentioned that I might have some thermal issues too...
[20:01] <TJ-> pizzaburger: did I? I struggle to recall what I was doing yesterday!
[20:02] <TJ-> pizzaburger: did you ever try the acpi_osi= workaround?  https://iam.tj/prototype/enhancements/Windows-acpi_osi.html
[20:08] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: No I haven't, thanks! Gimme a sec to do those kernel commands
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[20:18] <oerheks> oh .. https://status.imgur.com/
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[20:20] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: Can't get into the cmmand line from this screen https://i.stack.imgur.com/43sXt.jpg
[20:22] <TJ-> pizzaburger: no, that is the UEFI (motherboard) manual boot menu... GRUB would be loaded by that when you boot Ubuntu but that doesn't show an Ubuntu install
[20:23] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: sorry that's not my screencap
[20:23] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: ok got it now
[20:23] <TJ-> :)
[20:30] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: So I'm doing setparams 'Ubuntu' and "linux /vmlinuz-5.8.0-43-generic root=/dev/mapper/vgubuntu-root ro     quiet splash $vt_handoff pci=skip_isa_align"
[20:31] <TJ-> pizzaburger: yes :)
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[20:32] <TJ-> pizzaburger: I'm not sure that'll help but it ought to cause the other address space users to cuddle up leaving more large spaces for the thunderbolt-usbc hub
[20:32] <TJ-> pizzaburger: this is a classic case of anti-social distancing :)
[20:33] <pizzaburger> TJ-: Didn't work ;\
[20:34] <TJ-> pizzaburger: try the pci=realloc next
[20:34] <TJ-> pizzaburger: in fact use them both!
[20:34] <TJ-> pci=realloc,skip_isa_align
[20:34] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: just to confirm, I have the hub plugged in at all times, right?
[20:35] <TJ-> pizzaburger: it shouldn't matter when it is connected
[20:35] <TJ-> pizzaburger: after each boot check the kernel log, see if those same BAR errors are reported - we could be swapping one error for a different one
[20:42] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: Could you please remind me where to see the chat's logs? Trying to grab that tails -F log command I was using earlier, haha
[20:42] <TJ-> pizzaburger: on the web?
[20:42] <TJ-> !logs
[20:42] <ubottu> Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/
[20:45] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: I unplug and then plug back in the hub while the command is running, yes?
[20:45] <TJ-> pizzaburger: yes, you can do that :)
[20:46] <pizzaburger> TJ-: Seems no errors: paste.ubuntu.com/p/RTV2h7xvMh
[20:49] <BWhitten> hi, I'm hunting down a lack of performance writing to my SD card in Linux vs Windows and I am digging into trace points http://codepad.org/3KpUy9JA what other tools might help finding out where the throughput is going. For context with a freshly formatted, and fresh out of the packet SD card in SDR104 mode I get 67MB/s for sequential 1MiB blocks of random data for 1GiB total. On Linux I get 29MB/s
[20:50] <BWhitten> *writes
[21:03] <Rochvellon> I've got a problem with audio. As a user I cannot use the audio device even though the user is in the group audio. If I run "aplay some.wav" with sudo it's not a problem. As user there is no device listet in settings -> Audio. Running "aplay -l" as a user there is the same output as running with sudo. Using 20.04. Any ideas?
[21:05] <sarnold> Rochvellon: usually running pavucontrol is enough to spot whatever is going on
[21:12] <Rochvellon> sarnold: running pavucontrol as user shows me only a dummy interface. as root it seems, that PulseAudio isn't working)
[21:13] <sarnold> Rochvellon: systemctl --user status pulseaudio   -- this might help spot something there?
[21:18] <Rochvellon> Dbus error: no reply. The message bus security policy blocked the reply
[21:19] <Rochvellon> sarnold ∆
[21:19] <SynfulAck> My CPU shows it running at 798 MHz through this gnome extension called cpufreq. Any idea whats going on? https://imgur.com/a/FXguC2s
[21:21] <sarnold> Rochvellon: oh my.
[21:21] <sarnold> SynfulAck: probably just power saving of a bored cpu with nothing to do :)
[21:22] <SynfulAck> sarnold, it does this even when starting up the laptop, I dont ever see it go beyond.
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[21:23] <sarnold> SynfulAck: one or more of these governors is usually considered to be absolute garbage, I can't recall which one though
[21:31] <SynfulAck> sarnold, is there a way to just turn it off?
[21:31] <sarnold> SynfulAck: you can switch to performance, that'll run at full clock all the time
[21:31] <SynfulAck> What does the default 2004 ubuntu do? sarnold
[21:32] <SynfulAck> You wouldnt want to run at full clock all the time.
[21:32] <leftyfb> SynfulAck: do you mean 20.04?
[21:32] <SynfulAck> leftyfb, ya
[21:34] <SynfulAck> sarnold, leftyfb when i set it at performance cpufreq reports 798 MHz
[21:34] <SynfulAck> unless some sort of restart is required or something
[21:35] <leftyfb> SynfulAck: are you having issues with your pc?
[21:36] <SynfulAck> leftyfb, not that I am aware of. I just noticed the cpu capped at 798 then started questioning if things where running slowly.
[21:36] <leftyfb> SynfulAck: do you notice things running slowly?
[21:37] <sarnold> SynfulAck: i think it's a bit complicated; many systems try to use intel's pstate governor, other systems get other governors ..
[21:37] <SynfulAck> leftyfb, maybe, its not something i paid much attention to until i switched over to firefox and cycling through all the tabs to load them.
[21:38] <sarnold> cpupower frequency-info may report something intersting
[21:38] <ruedii> Running at full speed all the time means  you just hit thermal throttling.  This isn't 10 years ago, don't do that.
[21:38] <SynfulAck> sarnold, what utility?
[21:39] <sarnold> linux-tools-common: /usr/bin/cpupower
[21:42] <SynfulAck> leftyfb, sarnold only thing that sticks out is current policy says 500 MHz https://pastebin.com/tf3Hqb9J
[21:43] <sarnold> SynfulAck: well now *that* is curious
[21:46] <sarnold> SynfulAck: arch forums (I know I know..) suggest either (a) need to apply firmware updates (b) it's possible TLP is misconfigured
[21:46] <sarnold> alas they're a bit vague on the second point
[21:46] <SynfulAck> sarnold, how do i do a firmwire update?
[21:47] <sarnold> SynfulAck: hopefully, just "sudo fwupdmgr update"
[21:47] <sarnold> not all vendors participate though :(
[21:47] <SynfulAck> man thats weird, figured ubuntu software update would of taken care of everything
[21:48] <SynfulAck> did know that was a thing
[21:48] <SynfulAck> sarnold, just says system firmware and uefi device firmware has no avail updates.
[21:50] <sarnold> hmm. I don't know if that's good news or not :) hehe
[21:50] <sarnold> I *think* the gui software update thingy will offer to install updates, I'm not sure, I've not go that installed
[22:07] <SynfulAck> sarnold, Did or anyone ping me after you sent the "I think the gui" message?
[22:08] <sarnold> SynfulAck: no
[22:10] <SynfulAck> sarnold, ok well. I booted into windows after i broke my internet connection trying to connect to my openvpn access server and couldnt kill it. Windows had a range of cpu speeds. And now after i logged back into ubuntu my cpu isnt stuck at 798 anymore
[22:10] <SynfulAck> dunno wtf is up with that. Maybe setting the govenor requires a restart
[22:10] <sarnold> SynfulAck: *very* curious
[22:10] <sarnold> SynfulAck: I'm glad you're not stuck there, but I hate not knowing *why* things are broken
[22:10] <SynfulAck> sarnold, yeah, not a fan of curious. I just want things to work. OpenVPN Access server and configurations are already annoying enough.
[22:11] <SynfulAck> ya, reminds me of windows.
[22:11] <SynfulAck> thx
[22:11] <sarnold> "not a fan of curious" :D
[22:16] <SynfulAck> sarnold, :D
[22:26] <pizzaburger> @TJ-: Hey, thanks for the help today. I'm jumping off, will do a clean install tomorrow and can hopefully catch you again!
[22:44] <qwertuttyty> https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/wzskqWS7Gh/
[22:51] <qwertuttyty> Humor:help me
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[23:24] <kevr> why did you paste that
[23:24] <kevr> lol
[23:48] <Maik> qwertuttyty: either ask you're question in a proper way in a appropriate channel or don't. At least not that way. Plus, it isn't a Ubuntu related support question either. If you want to poke fun then there's #ubuntu-offtopic where you are most welcome to join.
[23:48] <Maik> you're/your
[23:50] <toothe> I installed docker as a snap. Does anyone know where the configuration files are set?
[23:54] <oerheks> in /var/snap/docker/current/etc/docker/daemon.json ?
[23:54] <oerheks> and aftr edit; sudo snap restart docker
[23:54] <toothe> new-file. I just removed and reinstalled it
[23:55] <toothe> I stepped away from Linux for years and now I don't understand things like snaps heh
[23:55] <oerheks> oh oke, docker is not really my thingy