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[05:59] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[b]: I have not tried it, Paul Davis has and seems to think it is ok. I think somemother people have tried it too.
[06:00] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[b]: it is designed for less than wonderfull networks where things like aes67, avb, dante can't work
[06:00] <OvenWerks> as well as a lan
[06:01] <OvenWerks> so it can do pcm direct but also compressed (OPUS) low latency
[06:02] <sakrecoer[b]> yes they state on rhe frontpage that etherner makes a huge difference from WiFi
[06:02] <OvenWerks> I do not know if it interfaces with jack well or not because I have not tried it.
[06:02] <sakrecoer[b]> i will try! sometime this weekend
[06:02] <OvenWerks> I do  not think even OPUS can do lowlatency with wireless
[06:04] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[b]: wifi has to deal with colisions followed by a rndom delay followed by a retry with a possible second colision.
[06:04] <OvenWerks>  sakrecoer[b]:  wifi not only has to worry about colisions within you own wifi, but everyone elses on the block using the same channel
[06:05] <sakrecoer[b]> it's quite amazing wifi can be as fast as it is lol
[06:05] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[b]: typical latency using wifi is 500ms for sability
[06:05] <sakrecoer[b]> would be so neat to get some jaming going on again. probably what i miss the most about the restricitions
[06:05] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[b]: speed and latency are not the same thing
[06:06] <sakrecoer[b]> aha, yes of course
[06:08] <sakrecoer[b]> but wouldn't it eventually affect speed too in the case of wifi? if those 500ms run out, wouldn't it neee to... add a new ... "lookahead"?
[06:21] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[b]: the newer wifi just uses bigger packet sizes for more throughput
[06:21] <OvenWerks> sakrecoer[b]: and higher bitrates too of course
[06:22] <OvenWerks> so there is not guarentee when they will get there, but they can move faster
[06:29] <sakrecoer[b]> thanks for elaborating OvenWerks
[15:53] <SADe_> Hi everyone, I'm asking here again
[15:54] <SADe_> Is there a plan for new TASCAM US-4X4HR will be support by Linux ans UbuntuStudio ?
[15:55] <SADe_> and*
[16:02] <OvenWerks> Is the the unit USB? if so is it class compliant?
[16:02] <OvenWerks> Does it work on a MAC?)
[16:06] <OvenWerks> Basically, the mac requires USB devices to be class complient as it does not allow installing drivers. Linux should just work with any USB class complient device.
[16:07] <OvenWerks> SADe_: this page: https://tascam.com/us/product/us-4x4hr/spec seems to indicate it should work.
[16:10] <OvenWerks> however, the downloads page does have a "settings panel" for the mac (but not iOS) so it is best to check if ALSA can see it's controls.
[16:11] <OvenWerks> Actually, it looks like everything is knobs, not sure what a settings panel would do.
[18:38] <SADe_> i've install studio 20.4 on a iMac late 2009
[18:39] <SADe_> with a dual boot on high sierra, my tascam work on mac but not under ubuntu studio
[18:40] <SADe_> OvenWerks, on jack i can start with the integrated sound card but not the tascam ..
[18:46] <SADe_> Is there a place to open and an issue and report jack logs
[18:47] <SADe_> -and
[19:06] <OvenWerks> SADe_: if the device does not work in ALSA it will not work in jack. So check that it works with ALSA first
[19:08] <OvenWerks> If ALSA sees it... arecord -l and aplay -l both show it and something like firefox can send sound to it.... the next thing is to find out what sample rates/buffer sizes it can use
[19:11] <OvenWerks> SADe_: It could be you are trying to get jack to use the device with a sample rate or buffer size the device does not support. Both windows a macOS hide this from you, using SRC to give you what you ask for regardless.
[19:12] <OvenWerks> for example, many devices will only run at 48000 and not 44100 or vise versa
[20:26] <SADe_> Thank you for your advices OvenWerks 'ill give a try tomorow
[23:43] <sirriffsalot> Yo guys, I've been trying the Auburn Sounds-plugins... they're amazing
[23:44] <sirriffsalot> I hope you'll consider adding them to the next Ubuntu Studio release, if that's something you're allowed to do with the free versions. These plugins are astounding
[23:51] <oerheks> sirriffsalot, this Renegate ?
[23:52] <oerheks> https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2020/08/25/auburn-sounds-renegate-free/
[23:52] <sirriffsalot> oerheks: yeah https://www.auburnsounds.com/products/Panagement.html
[23:52] <oerheks> cool
[23:53] <sirriffsalot> oerheks: yeah I dunno, it's not opensource even, but they had free versions.. so I thought I'd mention it
[23:53] <sirriffsalot> They're truly something