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bdmurray#startmeeting Weekly Ubuntu Foundations team16:01
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bdmurray#topic Lightning Round16:01
bdmurrayecho $(shuf -e vorlon bdmurray xnox tdaitx doko sil2100 rbalint mwhudson juliank waveform slyon jawnsmith dbungert)16:01
bdmurrayrbalint jawnsmith mwhudson sil2100 waveform bdmurray vorlon slyon tdaitx xnox juliank dbungert doko16:01
bdmurrayrbalint:16:02
rbalint* tried to install 20.04 with subiquity with encrypted LVM + swap partition, reported the crash, then did it with the legacy installer16:02
rbalint* partner work16:02
rbalint* helping glibc & systemd to migrate16:02
rbalint(done)16:02
JawnSmith* LP: #1905627 fix bluetooth on raspberry pi16:03
JawnSmith* LP: #1915307 merge sudo from debian16:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1905627 in bluez (Ubuntu Hirsute) "Bluetooth stops working on Raspberry Pi 4 with bluez 5.55-0ubuntu1.1 " [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190562716:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1915307 in sudo (Ubuntu) "Please merge sudo 1.9.5p2-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191530716:03
JawnSmith* LP: #1902025 SRU for groovy and focal16:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1902025 in update-manager (Ubuntu Groovy) "hwe kernel not scoped under "Ubuntu Base"" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190202516:03
JawnSmith* Starting work on raspi GPIO support with new kernel16:03
JawnSmith[done]16:03
sil2100- SRU reviews and releases16:03
sil2100- Released 20.04.2.0!16:03
sil2100  * Usual publishing/preparation tasks16:03
sil2100  * Discussions with certification about risks16:03
sil2100  * Helping out with flavor ISO testing, gathering feedback16:03
sil2100  * Hacks to debian-cd for the point-point release handling16:03
sil2100  * Finalization tasks16:03
sil2100- Some release retrospective discussions16:03
sil2100- Updated and prepared for testing cloud package updates for the CPC team16:03
sil2100- Netplan reviews of the new NM key-file implementation16:03
sil2100- Proof-reading and endorsing Dave's application (about time!)16:03
sil2100- Reading up about Swift and swiftclient bindings16:03
sil2100- More proof-of-concept code preparation for ESM britney, some work on the spec16:03
sil2100- Small fixes for the public security britney16:04
sil2100- Investigating possible fine-grained ACLs for britney PPA runs16:04
sil2100- Security package copies16:04
sil2100- Started looking at merges16:04
sil2100- Prepping some uc18 gadget respins16:04
sil2100(done)16:04
waveform* initramfs-tools merge (LP: #1915966) (lots of clean-up! \o/)16:04
waveform* flash-kernel merge (LP: #1916034)16:04
waveform* Working on u-boot merge16:04
waveform* Working on lgpio/rgpio packaging (needs one more patch for GPIO pulls)16:04
waveform* PPU application written16:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1915966 in initramfs-tools (Ubuntu) "Please merge initramfs-tools 0.139 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191596616:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1916034 in flash-kernel (Ubuntu) "Please merge flash-kernel 3.104 from Debian unstable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191603416:04
waveform* Pi meetings16:04
waveform(done)16:04
bdmurraysponsored the focal, groovy debdiffs fixing LP: #190202516:05
bdmurraysponsored the apport change in LP: #190360516:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1902025 in update-manager (Ubuntu Groovy) "hwe kernel not scoped under "Ubuntu Base"" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190202516:05
bdmurraysubmitted RT regarding a devel environment for the Error Tracker16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1903605 in apport (Ubuntu) "proposed patch: remove dependency on python3-requests" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190360516:05
bdmurrayworked on deploying the devel environment for the Error Tracker16:05
bdmurraymerged lptools16:05
bdmurraysubmitted lptools MP with some lp-grab-attachments changes16:05
bdmurraymerged software-properties change re armhf testing16:05
bdmurrayrelease upgrader bug triage16:05
bdmurrayshort week with a national holiday16:05
bdmurray✔ done16:05
bdmurrayvorlon:16:05
vorlonnothing significant to report this week, skip me :)16:05
slyon- plusone maintenance yesterday & today16:06
slyon  + mergerfs & network-manager FTBFS16:06
slyon  + nm-tray, gnome-pkg-tools, axel, ganeti-instance-debootstrap, lua-dbi merges16:06
slyon  + findutils sponsoring for waveform16:06
slyon  + many autopkgtest triggers adopted for gtk4, snapd, pango1.0 rebuilds16:06
slyon  + some update-excuse bugs, LP: #1915926, LP: #190374816:06
slyon- alpha merge party; vim 2:8.2.2434-1ubuntu116:06
slyon- Working on binutils/bionic SRU for IBM, bug #190381416:06
slyon- Working on NetworkManager YAML backend16:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1915926 in rmatrix (Ubuntu) "Make R packages migrate" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191592616:06
slyon  + passes full NM test-suite (make check) & manual testing16:06
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1903748 in mergerfs (Ubuntu) "unknown DWARF DW_OP_0" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190374816:06
ubottuError: Could not gather data from Launchpad for bug #1903814 (https://launchpad.net/bugs/1903814). The error has been logged16:06
bdmurrayon to another on$16:06
slyon  + needs some more adoptions for the API functions16:06
slyon=== Netplan ===16:06
slyon- Bug triage16:06
slyon  + netplan snap, bug #190374816:06
slyon  + cloud-init; NM unmanaged interfaces, bug #191478416:06
slyon- NM snap + legacy nms-netplan-plugin, MP #39621316:06
slyon- Implemented feedback for PR#187, merged16:06
ubottubug 1914784 in cloud-init "cloud-init does not support ignoring a network interface with NetworkManager" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191478416:06
slyon- Prepared new PR#191 for YAML backend API changes16:06
slyon- Working on PR#189 feedback16:06
bdmurraytdaitx:16:06
slyon(done)16:06
tdaitxShort week: out Mon/Tue (holiday)16:06
tdaitx* jck 1116:06
tdaitx  - reviewed jck documentation, found some bits I should be doing differently (native lib location mosly)16:06
tdaitx  - created cloud-init configs for the jck-server and jck-agent; it captures dependencies, settings through debconf, some required conf files, and some 'run-once' commands16:06
tdaitx  - moved away from snap, it was nice in theory but private snaps are not practical (no automated installs, no way to build from private repo)16:06
tdaitx  - moving all code and config into a single repo16:06
tdaitx  - single jck-server (amd64) lxd container per network + 1 test agent container for each release/arch16:06
tdaitx  - cleaned up a few more failures from the runtime testsuite16:06
tdaitx  - fixing agent setup for compiler testsuite (bloody thing needs a shared folder between jck server and agent)16:06
tdaitx* looked over some fixes needed before next openjdk-8 security update16:06
tdaitx(done)16:06
bdmurrayxnox:16:07
xnoxrustc rebootstrap complete on riscv64, all tests passed, should migrate soon.16:07
xnoxlots of fakeroot fixes and rebuilds16:07
xnoxworking on one-grub patches16:07
xnoxworking on noudeb build profile by default in dpkg / britney / kernel16:07
xnoxdone16:07
bdmurrayCan that bug be closed now?16:07
bdmurraythat one being bug 191525016:07
ubottubug 1915250 in fakeroot (Ubuntu) "buildd file owner/group for shared libraries " [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191525016:07
bdmurrayjuliank:16:08
juliank* back home after the snow last week, snow's melting now at +10C or so too :D16:08
juliank* merged dput16:08
juliank* merged wpa -1716:08
juliank* synced wpa -20 (yay! the only patch left was session ticket, which was patched differently upstream)16:08
juliank* reviewed irssi merge from JawnSmith16:08
juliank* triaging apt bugs for stable updates. whoa there's some stuff for targetted focal in LP I forgot about16:08
juliank* discussing whether to backport the new kernel autoremoval helper in apt, or just write a smaller patch that only protects the current kernel in addition to what the shell script protects.16:08
juliank(done)16:08
dbungert* LP: #1915558 - irssi merge, done via Server team git process.16:08
dbungert* LP: #1913321 - moved to security team, MIR team generally approving. They filed a related LP for fix16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1915558 in irssi (Ubuntu) "Please merge 1.2.2-2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191555816:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1913321 in mtd-utils (Ubuntu Hirsute) "[MIR] iniparser (dependency of mtd-utils)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191332116:08
dbungert* LP: #1915866 - run the tests during libiniparser1 build.  That part is fine, but tests don't yet fail the build.16:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1915866 in iniparser (Ubuntu) "build does not run tests in test/ directory" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191586616:08
dbungert* autoinstall-generator - setup github actions, be able to handle settings that are dependent on one another16:08
dbungert(done)16:08
juliankOh did I mix the mergers up?16:08
juliankSorry dbungert16:09
bdmurraydoko:16:09
dbungertjuliank: no worries16:09
doko- looking at perl triggered autopkg tests, addressed three, one left which should be ignored. xnox lookged at freersum/s390x16:09
doko- two +1 maitenance days, see report on the u-d ML16:09
doko- worked on the wrong user/group in deb's issues16:09
doko- make debhelper robust against objcopy/strip not keeping file attributes16:09
doko(done)16:09
bdmurrayAre there any more questions on status other than the state of bug 1915250? xnox16:10
ubottubug 1915250 in fakeroot (Ubuntu) "buildd file owner/group for shared libraries " [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191525016:10
dokosetting these to committed16:10
juliankI think I forgot to look at failing autopkgtests from last week :(16:10
bdmurrayjuliank: I'll go slow so you can16:11
bdmurray#topic Release Incoming Bugs16:11
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-hh-incoming-bug-tasks.html#foundations-bugs16:11
bdmurraySo is there additional work that we should card bug 1915250 for?16:12
ubottubug 1915250 in fakeroot (Ubuntu) "buildd file owner/group for shared libraries " [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191525016:12
doko<doko> setting these to committed16:12
bdmurrayAlright no then16:12
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-gg-incoming-bug-tasks.html16:12
bdmurrayWe talked about the tzdata bug last week16:13
bdmurray#link http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-ff-incoming-bug-tasks.html16:13
bdmurraybug 1914827 I found and recreated this week16:13
ubottubug 1914827 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "18.04 to 20.04 upgrade failed until -dbg packages removed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191482716:13
juliankfun16:14
bdmurraythe python is python2 stuff has a list of packages and depending on how they are ordered the upgrade can succeed or fail16:14
juliankI always worry fixing one bug unfixes another one :D16:14
bdmurrayYeah16:14
juliankBut sounds right16:14
bdmurraySo it sorted out the upgrade in bug 1914827 but didn't fix bug 191534616:15
ubottubug 1914827 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "18.04 to 20.04 upgrade failed until -dbg packages removed" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191482716:15
ubottubug 1915346 in ubuntu-release-upgrader (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to LTS 20.04 fails" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191534616:15
juliankThe right fix obviously is to make order not matter, but that's harder with the way the code is written (though we have the card for that :D)16:15
bdmurrayjuliank: so do you suggest trying to reorder it in a way that works for most cases?16:16
juliankShould we try to fix individual bugs or move the rework higher up in priority?16:16
juliankbdmurray: Hard question we can't really know we really ought to collect test cases so we can see if changes cause regressions16:17
juliankbdmurray: Arguably minimal first should be right I guess16:17
juliankSo it's something we probably should od16:17
bdmurrayjuliank: okay, that's trivial so lets do that first and see what we are left with.16:17
bdmurraylet's target and card that then16:17
bdmurraythen we have a couple of hwe-support-status bugs16:18
mclemenceaudone then: carded!16:18
bdmurraybug 190879416:18
ubottubug 1908794 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "update-manager-core: hwe-support-status recommends 18.04 on 20.04" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190879416:18
bdmurraybug 190708316:18
ubottubug 1907083 in update-manager (Ubuntu) "hwe-support-status fails without displaying unsupported packages" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/190708316:18
bdmurrayIt looks like hwe-support-status didn't get updated for focal :-(16:19
bdmurrayOh hey that one is already carded -sorry16:19
bdmurraysame with the other16:19
xnoxdoko:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/RustUpdates updated16:19
bdmurrayso then bug 191592316:20
ubottubug 1915923 in pciutils (Ubuntu) "update-pciids in pciutils fails to create hard link" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191592316:20
bdmurrayThey've identified the fix but how important is update-pciids?16:20
xnoxbdmurray:  makes shiny new hardware work16:21
bdmurrayLike when does it get used?16:21
xnoxbdmurray:  if no shiny, no need.16:21
bdmurrayso let's target and card that16:22
mclemenceauok then.16:23
bdmurrayso then bug 1915887 paride has set to incomplete but if there's a systemd expert who could chime in that might help.16:24
ubottubug 1915887 in xl2tpd (Ubuntu) "systemd spams the syslog about lack of native systemd unit file" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/191588716:24
bdmurraythat's that16:24
bdmurray#topic Team proposed-migration report16:24
bdmurrayvorlon:16:24
vorlonaaand my browser chooses this moment to have a fit16:24
dbungertjust feed it more ram16:25
vorlonok here we go16:25
paride👀16:25
vorlonwell that made me look, and why is matterhorn taking 2.8G16:25
vorlonanyway16:25
vorlonpexpect: tdaitx, any progress?16:26
bdmurraysomebody's emojis I'm sure16:26
tdaitxvorlon: none16:26
vorlontdaitx: are you ok to carry it over?16:27
xnoxi mean we were frozen for a while.16:27
vorlonxnox: doesn't prevent reproducing and fixing source bugs :)16:27
tdaitxvorlon: sure =)16:27
vorlonok16:27
vorlonmtd-utils/iniparser, I know dbungert is working on16:27
vorlone2fsprogs is me, carrying over16:28
vorlonsystemd vs iproute2 is me, carrying over16:28
vorlonxfsprogs is blocked on the libnih MIR16:28
vorlonJawnSmith: any movement on acl?  still showing systemd autopkgtest regressions on amd64 and ppc64el16:28
JawnSmithI had thought the new systemd would resolve that but it doesn't seem to have so I started digging deeper yesterday16:29
JawnSmithwill carry over16:29
vorlonmight be as simple as a retry with different hints?16:29
vorlonok16:29
vorlonperl: doko?16:30
dokojust asked ubuntu-release to badtest16:30
vorlonok16:30
dokothe others are all fixed16:30
vorloniputils is also JawnSmith, amd64+ppc64el systemd failures16:30
vorlonjuliank: setuptools?16:30
juliankyep, I should give it an actual try this week16:31
vorlonok16:31
JawnSmithcarded iputils so it doesn't slip through the cracks16:32
vorlonsbuild vs qemu, likely just flakiness, I'll retry16:32
vorlonsystemd vs qemu, hasn't been tried with a recent systemd, I'll retry16:32
vorlonsocat: bdmurray?16:33
vorlondh-autoreconf: xnox?16:33
bdmurray+1 socat16:33
vorlonsystemd blocking policykit-1, I'll retry with recent systemd16:34
vorlonerlang: sil2100?16:34
sil2100On it o/16:35
vorlonpython3.9: slyon?16:35
slyonyes!16:35
vorlonglibc I'm pretty sure is rbalint16:35
vorlonlibtype-tiny-perl: waveform?16:36
rbalint:-)16:36
waveformvorlon, ok16:36
vorlonthen a whole bunch of stuff that is blocked on either glibc or perl which we'll ignore16:36
vorloncross-toolchain-base: dbungert?16:37
xnoxvorlon:  ok.16:37
dbungert+1 cross-toolchain-base16:37
vorlondbungert: or rather, elfutils which is blocked by cross-toolchain-base + others16:37
dbungertOK16:37
vorlonso unfortunately the queue is growing but I don't necessarily want to assign out a whole second round today.  Hopefully a lot of these just clear up once glibc is unstuck and we can have a better look next week16:38
dokodbungert, vorlon: c-t-b is a timeout. just needs more time16:38
juliankI can give it more time, I suppose16:38
vorlonwhy does it need more time now than before?16:38
juliankah arm?16:39
juliankWe get new faster hardware, so hesitant16:39
vorlonwell, having a longer timeout that doesn't get used doesn't hurt much16:40
vorlonand we're not live on the new hardware yet16:40
vorlonanyway, stopping there16:40
vorlonbdmurray:16:40
bdmurray#topic AOB16:40
bdmurrayAnything else going on / worth sharing?16:41
slyonI'll be out on Monday16:41
dbungertjuliank: so if I understand correctly, I should leave c-t-b alone and you'll extend the timeout?16:41
juliankI need to talk to La_ney and see wrt hardware changes if it needs a longer timeout or will be good16:42
dbungertvorlon: if you like you can give me a different one16:42
juliankAh but I think it jumps forth and back16:42
vorlondbungert: libselinux, then16:42
dbungert+1 libselinux16:42
juliankvorlon: We are live on armhf fwiw, at least with 1/316:43
juliank:D16:43
juliankSo I guess some arm64 pick up new HW too?16:43
juliank(same openstack cloud, no way to specify which one you get)16:44
vorlonso it's live in bos02 but I haven't raised an RT yet to increase our quota16:44
vorlonyes, we'll get some faster nodes in there, some slower16:44
juliankvorlon: ok Laney is migrating armhf runners to fast nodes only basically16:45
vorlonmazel tov16:45
juliankOptimally we'd prefer run long tests on fast nodes, and others on slower nodes16:46
juliankbut probably too hard :D16:46
vorlonwell, spinning instances up and down until you get one on the node you prefer is not a good idea16:47
juliankyeah, maybe they can have tags or something one could use16:48
juliankanyhow, more ubuntu - release business16:49
bdmurray#endmeeting16:50
meetingologyMeeting ended at 16:50:15 UTC.  Minutes at https://new.ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-meeting/2021/ubuntu-meeting.2021-02-18-16.01.moin.txt16:50
juliankIn other news, Debian is (soft) frozen16:50
juliankin case people didn't notice, since 5 days16:50
* rbalint is out from Friday to Tuesday16:54

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