[00:07] also, is there a bug in docker from ubuntu/ [00:07] I consistently get a crash [01:24] Hello, I set up a network consisting of three pc's, 1 with CentOS, 1 with latest Ubuntu Desktop, and one with latest Ubuntu Server. I have the ubuntu server running wireless internet. I'm connecting the three computers via a unmanaged switch. I would like to set proxy settings through the ubuntu desktop, using the ubuntu server to get internet, but am having issues. I tried editing the apt.conf tile to test my settings, [01:24] but I keep getting 111 connection refused. Can someone assist me, if available? I am a novice, Linux Essentials cert [01:28] update version f2fs-tols enabling compression https://wiki.debian.org/F2FS [01:29] f2fs-tools 1.11.0 [01:30] !info f2fs-tools [01:30] f2fs-tools (source: f2fs-tools): Tools for Flash-Friendly File System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.11.0-1.1ubuntu1 (focal), package size 150 kB, installed size 451 kB (Only available for linux-any) [01:30] yes? [01:33] "To create a compressed FS, f2fs-tools at version >= 1.14.0-1 is required" [01:33] chev: double-check with ss -p that your proxy software is listening on the interfaces you'd expect [01:33] only in the next Hirsute https://launchpad.net/f2fs-tools/+packages [01:33] sarnold: well thats the other thing i was wondering, am I supposed to download something like squid on my server to accept these requests? [01:33] i know :) [01:34] 1.14 [01:34] qwertuttyty, oh wait, you know that backporting is just a matter of time? [01:34] chev: well, you said proxy, so I went with that :) what *are* you trying to do? [01:34] https://packages.debian.org/unstable/f2fs-tools-udeb [01:35] sarnold: i want my ubuntu desktop to be able to access the internet through my ubuntu server. [01:35] :) [01:35] got it working!! [01:35] whoa [01:35] chev: aha, so something more like NAT then? [01:36] toothe: sweet, what was it? [01:36] with docker-compose, can I create an arbitrary container to use psql on? so I can check how my db is doing? [01:36] im looking up what NAT is, one sec. ^_^; [01:36] sarnold: so...I installed Ubuntu, the docker settings changed the DNS [01:37] sarnold: yes, that sounds like what I am trying to do. [01:38] http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/groovy/man8/mkfs.f2fs.8.html 21.04 = Provided by: f2fs-tools_1.11.0-1.2_amd64 and how long to wait? [01:39] 1.11 = 2018 year [01:41] qwertuttyty, we know [01:41] now wait for the backport nothing we can do here [01:42] or build it yourself :-P [01:43] backportpackage(1) may be useful [01:43] ty looking at it [01:44] chev: sorry, backportpackage might be more useful for qwertuttyty, if he or she needs a newer version of a package on an older release [01:45] chev: 99% of this thing is beyond me https://lartc.org/ -- and probably not all useful for doing NAT, but potentially it has answers to questions :) [01:45] and? We know i know but give me xompression for h2fs. we have a debean package 1.14.0-2 but cannot install, dependency does not allow. [01:45] f2fs [01:46] "and?" [01:47] humor:no problem we have btrfs with compression [01:48] btw, f2fs is available from git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/jaegeuk/f2fs-tools.git. [01:54] Hello! Is there a way to make additional "Library" folders as seen in Nautilus and in save-dialogs? I am using Gnome on 20.04. [01:58] how long to wait for when f2fs-tols 1.14.0-2 will be brought in through the update? The day after tomorrow? [01:59] i use kernel 5.11 [02:02] https://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=F2FS-Compression-Level-Next [02:04] next i instaled ubuntu kernel 5.12 rc [02:05] qwertuttyty: if you want to help migrate fs2fs-tools in hirsute, here's your starting point https://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#f2fs-tools === vlm_ is now known as vlm [02:07] !logs [02:07] Official channel logs can be found at https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too. Meetingology logs at https://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ [02:09] No, I can't help it. [02:12] tomreyn: That is supposed to be an LTS release of ubuntu. I really am up to date regarding system updates and upgrades. I have no clue why the package manager did not update the kernel. Or if it is an unsafe version I am running. [02:13] tharkun: What's the issue? [02:15] Core dump and aptitude failing to update some programes before freezing and doing the dump. [02:16] The server is running for the moment but I am uncertain of the stability of it. Will it manage a full reboot? ... [02:16] Nothing fancy. [02:16] foxide: Thanks for asking. [02:16] tharkun: pastebin the error? [02:16] check dmesg? [02:20] sarnold: I pasted it on the channel 3 lines of messages like 3 or 4 days ago. I will admit that looking into dmesg was not done or recorded. [02:20] Mon 15 21:13:25 < tharkun> Good $DAY I just got this from an update FATAL -> Failed to fork. [02:20] that? [02:21] Yes [02:21] that's quite likely out of memory [02:21] how's free -m look? [02:22] IIRC it has like 700MB free I currently cannot log into that particular server. [02:23] apt install -f # usually fixes things [02:24] oerheks: I know what apt install does but I know nothing about the -f switch. [02:25] -f usually fixes things :) heh [02:25] why can't you log in? [02:26] do you have an open session with it somewhere else you can use instead? [02:27] sarnold: An iptables thingy I rolled out. I can only log in through the office connection using a specific gateway. Got tired of overpopulated auth and access logs. [02:28] tharkun: aha [02:28] Works like a charm :) [02:28] tharkun: once you can log in, check how much memory is free. check slabtop output to see if there's a kernel memory leak on the system -- someone ran into that last week in here [02:29] iirc the slab with ridiculous use was kmalloc-128 [02:31] sarnold: assuming that slaptop detects a kernel memory leak, how do I recognize it. I've never used such tool [02:33] tharkun: there's no easy way to convey that kind of intuition :( here's the /proc/slabinfo on my laptop at the moment https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2t5WhNZnBt/ [02:34] tharkun: near the end, the kmalloc- entries shows peaks at 1k, 32, and very few 128 ... [02:35] tharkun: the distribution may vary from machine to machine, based on what the machine does, what kernel datastructures are used, etc, so it's just a guideline.. [02:35] tharkun: but the dude last week had a kmalloc-128 line that stood out by a LOT, iirc it was two digits longer than the surrounding sizes on his system [02:35] I see, I will have to take several snapshots and do a reboot in between them. Thanks very much for your time and knowledge. [02:36] the difference between 1k and 512 on my system is making me slightly suspicious, even, but .. it seems to be fine... [02:36] .. anyway, when I did the math on how large those objects where, and how many his system had in that slab, it was obvious that it was using up nearly all his physical memory [02:37] tharkun: if the system is barely functional at the console, *maybe* an echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches will give you something to work with. but, uh, it might also take away memory from things the system is running, and it might not be able to get those things back. if you've got a kernel memory leak, then a reboot asap is advised anyway [02:37] nice to know, I will rtfm for slabtop and do some time lapse shots to look for moving stuff. [02:38] nice nice [02:38] The reboot can be done remoteley :) One thing I allways thought of when poking at iptables :) [02:39] nice nice [02:40] that's not always easy to do remotely, even thought sometimes it's the most impportant thing to be able to do remotely :) [02:41] I just need to leave a message for the server to read and bingo it just reboots and mails me when it comes back to life. :) [02:42] Anyway I have to go since this laptop's battery is reaching 5% and the power cord is at the office. I will report tomorrow. Thanks for the time and effort. [02:42] gnight [02:43] (leaving the power cord, I like that, limit how much work you'll do at home :) [02:45] Ubuntu with GNOME, feels good [02:46] rdr, install gnome-tweak-tool for more fun and extentions [02:47] oh, i'm well aware [02:47] i've tried to remain mostly stock for this install though [02:48] * kirk781 controls himself from hating on gnome [02:48] it's definitely controversial [02:59] https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/2Vs8xJRcVG/ === zbenjamin is now known as Guest96285 === zbenjamin_ is now known as zbenjamin === newdimension3 is now known as newdimension === popey8 is now known as popey === PonyToast_ is now known as PonyToast === juanonymous_ is now known as juanonymous === SysGh_st is now known as SysGhost === jwheare_ is now known as jwheare === Dude_ is now known as Dude === michagogo__ is now known as michagogo_ === abirkill- is now known as abirkill === Amaranth8 is now known as Amaranth === mycookie6 is now known as mycookie === semitones_tea is now known as semitones [03:55] I'm trying to get help with ubuntu server, would this be the right channel? [03:59] Einder, #ubuntu-server might be more on point [04:00] Einder: Welcome to ask here, But ^ , === benfrancis5 is now known as benfrancis [04:13] I didn't see it intially, ty === ledeni_ is now known as ledeni [04:44] Is there a way to make additional "Library" folders as seen in Nautilus and in save-dialogs? I am using Gnome on 20.04. [04:47] I think recent and starred are the only ones [04:47] you can add bookmarks to a folder, but i dont think that's what you're referring to [04:47] Ahh. [04:47] I will keep looking for an answer! [04:51] I have already played with the user-dirs.dirs file, and changed my library folders to another location, but adding new library folders did not change anything for Nautilus. [04:54] Qen-Joana, that should be actived on next login, not in current session [04:55] I have already relogged. [04:58] The user-dirs.dirs file lists: XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/Desktop" So it is related to XDG? [06:20] hi guys [06:21] please make sure that gcc works fine. i.e. : gcc -lX11 -lm file.c -o file should work on ubuntu. I know, it takes some time, but gcc is core of your system. no C no ubuntu. [06:21] what? [06:43] How's everyone's morning/evening going? [06:44] existing somehow [06:47] somehow? you expect to die soon or something? [06:49] s/expect/hope [06:50] whats wrong [06:51] it doesn't get any better keeping it bottled up.. [07:24] Hi, I am using Ubuntu Budgie 20.04 .... I have created a custom launcher on my Desktop ...I want to change its ICON ... How do I do that ? [07:25] john_rambo: edit it and add Icon=/path/to/icon [07:26] EriC^, SHould I use a capital "I" ? [07:26] yes [07:26] Trying now ... [07:31] EriC^, Done but its showing a "white" icon instead of the Tor launcher icon ... Do I need to logout/login ? [07:33] john_rambo: is it +x? [07:35] chmod +x /file ? [07:36] EriC^, I tried a different method ...I saved a icon from here >>> https://styleguide.torproject.org/brand-assets/ ....Then I provided the full path in the launcher but its still a WHITE icon [07:37] EriC^, this is the line in the launcher >>>> Icon=/home/lubuntu/Downloads/tor-browser_en-US/large_icon.png [07:38] john_rambo: it looks right [07:38] try to run chmod +x /path/to/file.desktop [07:39] EriC^, Already done that. Tor browser is fully functional [07:39] john_rambo: i think tor comes with a .desktop file by default though, why make your own? [07:39] EriC^, Because I am using it inside firejail [07:40] what's the location of the .desktop file? [07:41] EriC^, the original .desktop file is in >>/home/lubuntu/Downloads/tor-browser_en-US/ [07:42] EriC^, the custom one is in >>>/home/lubuntu/Desktop/TOR.desktop [07:43] EriC^, The custom .desktop is linked to a shell script which launches Tor inside firejail [07:46] i see [07:46] john_rambo: it might show up if you log out and back in [07:46] EriC^, Trying now .. [08:18] hi folks, my applications bar (not sure if it is the way to call it) on ubuntu 18 has disappeared [08:18] any clues of how to get it back === EriC^ is now known as EriC^^ === mateen1 is now known as mateen [09:46] do you know any feed reader app with toolbar icon other than feedreader that works in 20.10? === Guest43522 is now known as Dimitris [10:44] gebbione, if you hit Alt-F2 do you still get a Run dialog? If so, run this in it: killall -SIGQUIT gnome-shell [10:44] gebbione, if that does nothing, then do the same with command: gnome-shell [10:49] thank you rory [10:49] i managed to find a simpler way that i guess is similar or runs the same in the background [10:50] after alt-F2 i type r and press enter [10:50] saves calories [10:50] :) [10:50] i have too many of those , happy to burn them when needed === PowerTower_121 is now known as PowerTower_120 === mateen1 is now known as mateen [11:07] Hi there. I've broken my dpkg package system. Any one to help me ? [11:11] Joalland: try sudo apt-get -f install [11:12] Eric^^ Thanks for the help. This command doesn't help. "Correcting dependencies... failed. The following packages have unmet dependencies:" [11:13] This kind of lines, involving the libc6. [11:13] In fact i'm using chroot to rescue my system. [11:14] Joalland: can you pastebin the results? also try sudo dpkg --configure -a [11:14] http://paste.debian.net/1185935/ [11:15] Joalland: can you type 'cat /etc/issue /etc/apt/sources.list' and pastebin the results? [11:18] dpkg --configure -a didn't help http://paste.debian.net/1185936/ [11:19] ok and the output of the above 2 commands? [11:20] http://paste.debian.net/1185937/ [11:21] I've chroot the system from a linux mint live usb 19.3 [11:21] Joalland: please join the linuxmint support channel, it seems you have the sources mixed up or some added ppa's i'd guess [11:21] !mint | Joalland [11:21] Joalland: The Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu and its official flavors, since other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. So please use their dedicated support venues, for example: Linux Mint (#linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org), Kali Linux (#kali-linux), and LXLE (#lxle) [11:22] okay thanks... [11:22] np [11:24] Joalland: Open the hexchat program in the program menu, that should take you to the Mint channels, there is a chat listing in the Welcome screen that will work [11:26] yes thanks but the irc protocol is somehow forbiden by my university . I use a web chat irc right now. [11:26] My mouse cannot click or interact with the system anymore. Is there a way to restart the "mouse daemon" (without logging out/rebooting) [11:28] hm... ok... "solved"... apparently the whole xorg got broken :/ [11:33] Joalland: can you use ssh? [11:34] yes, why ? [11:36] Joalland: ssh out to an IRC client on another machine [11:36] Joalland: tmux + irssi + an el-cheapo vps somewhere [11:36] thanks for the tip [12:14] Joalland: I have my irssi-client running in a screen on my home server, so I can SSH in here and continue when I need to. [12:19] Yes, but it don't need it anymore [12:42] Howdy folks === RedNifre_ is now known as RedNifre === mateen1 is now known as mateen === mateen1 is now known as mateen [13:35] why ubuntu remove options to do text only install === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje [13:45] the server installer is definitely "text only" and i doubt that will change [14:05] you can debootstrap from live iso === jelly-home is now known as jelly === pauljw_20 is now known as pauljw [14:43] is mysql pre installed on ubuntu? I'm pretty sure postgresql is, am I correct? [14:46] Left_Turn, maybe mariadb [14:47] kk4ewt, what has mariadb got to do with my question? [14:49] mariadb is the opensource mysql [14:49] Left_Turn: What do you mean, "pre-installed"? [14:49] kk4ewt, really? thanks, I didn't know that [14:49] The packages are available in the default repos, but they are not installed by default [14:50] MySQL is available in the mysql-server package, and MariaDB in mariadb-server [14:50] jivan, I use opensuse and postgresql is already installed... so I just wondered about ubuntu [14:50] ah i see [14:50] thanks [14:50] Left_Turn: Ah right — no, not the case with Ubuntu [14:50] Left_Turn, apt list --installed |grep mysql will answer your question [14:50] It is advised that you run `sudo mysql_secure_installation` after installing [14:51] oh ok... will do. thanks [14:56] Hi. On 20.04, imagemagick's "identify -list format" doesn't list webp. However imagemagick's source package build-depends on libwebp-dev. Is there something I need to install to have webp support with imagemagick? [15:12] Hello! Does Ubuntu One support MFA? [15:20] veryloud: I believe it's still in beta: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSO/2FactorAuthentication [15:22] Is there a way in Ubuntu 20.04 to install (and use on demand) a separate older OpenSSL library? I have to check the health of some older HP machines through the iLO via https, but the interfaces only support old ciphers which are not available anymore in current OpenSSL versions. [15:22] jivan: Thank you, I believe 2FA is a must when deploying packages to the Snap store [15:23] Would probably cause havok if someone cracks an account without 2FA and uploads a malicious version of a Snap [15:23] Doesn't Snap require PGP signatures? [15:23] If not, then I agree, but i'm pretty sure it does [15:23] Maybe popey can chime in on this [15:24] sup? [15:25] Canonical employees *must* use 2fa, non-Canonical can optionally use it for signing into U1, and thus the Snap Store. [15:25] Snaps do not require PGP signatures. They're signed by the store. [15:25] Ahh, good to know [15:26] hm kk [15:27] I believe either PGP or MFA should be required for all packages before disaster strikes and a popular package gets compromised [15:28] Or maybe I'm exagerating and the risk is low lol [15:28] Feel free to argue that with the snap store developers :D [15:29] Haha — Isn't lack of MFA what caused issues with NPM several times in the past? [15:29] jivan: Precisely [15:31] https://forum.snapcraft.io/c/store/16 is where I would raise it, if it's a concern for you. [15:32] https://launchpad.net/~sso-2f-testers So I requested to join this group, if anyone here manages it and can approve me that'd be great :) [15:32] popey: thanks, I'll come up with some constructive argument [15:32] Nice one. I am speaking to the admin of that group elsewhere. I'll mention to them. [15:33] Thanks, appreciate it popey! I'm listed as "Maxim Therrien" [15:56] Does multipass on linux create VM or lxd containers? [16:04] how do I get rid of this elasticsearch stuff in my apt-get updates https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/mwMjWwue/ [16:25] relipse: remove the elasticsearch package that you installed? [16:37] rory: Hiya. Remember our convo from yesterday re: the duplex audio port. Well, decided to just buy a USB soundcard. :) [16:37] lol I was going to say, try each of the codecs on that page you linked me [16:37] but yeah nice one [16:38] probably sounds nicer for music too, not sure. [16:38] rory: Oh I did :) === gijoe__ is now known as Eobard_Thawne [16:39] rory: and yes, I'll get to hear what 10 years of progress sounds like. Coulnd't decide to get a splitter (so TRSS to seperate connectors) *OR* USB soundcard. But went for the latter. Was only a couple £ difference. === Patrick_ is now known as Orion === Orion is now known as Guest17773 === Guest17773 is now known as Patrick_ [16:44] rory: yeah i tried them each in turn followed by a reboot. in fairness, it's the only thing that doesn't work. So can't complain. [16:56] Hello, everyone. I need to allow a snap to write to a folder, but AppArmor is blocking it. Ubuntu's tutorial has me create an entire profile, but I see one is already present. Can I just make something in /etc/apparmor.d/local/$AppName and have that add to whatever the snap included? [17:09] iPhone hotspots: Has anyone noticed that Linux doesn't seem to work with USB hotspots, only WiFi? [17:09] Good morning you all! :) [17:10] What is the correct way to stop a Linux box? Halt or shutdown? [17:10] Do you need to power it off, Rexodus? I use the shutdown command. [17:10] Yes [17:10] THanks! :) [17:11] I'm not too familiar with the halt command, but I think it shuts down the OS but leaves the hardware powered on. I could be wrong. I'm working from home so I can't play with it. [17:16] Hi, how can I uninstall an RT Linux patch from Ubuntu? === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow [17:37] > iPhone hotspots: Has anyone noticed that Linux doesn't seem to work with USB hotspots, only WiFi? [17:37] aebraham: Ubuntu 20.10 seems to work fine with a USB hotspot from my LG G8X [17:37] I believe iPhones don't use NDIS for USB ethernet, but don't quote me on that [17:41] For what it's worth, I paired my iPhone with my PC, and it shows up as a Bluetooth hotspot. I haven't tried USB, though. [17:48] HI, I noticed that installing couchdb with apt results in an interactive interface for configuring the installation. Does this interactive mode apply to apt, and if I use apt-get instead, would circumvent the interactive interface? [17:49] shush: https://serverfault.com/a/407358 [17:54] leftyfb: So this interactive interface is not exclusive to `apt` but also something that `apt-get` would present. [17:54] shush: correct [17:54] Just out of curiosity, are there reasons to use apt-get over apt? [17:55] Generally [18:08] I'm trying to write code to shut vlc down after 60 minutes and immediately after poweroff ubuntu, but I don't want both actions to happen simultaneously. I came with this, but I don't believe they will work: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/hXcJTBxrDd/ [18:10] frad: neither of those will work [18:11] frad: "powerfoff" is not a valid systemctl command :) [18:11] veryloud: What's NDIS? [18:12] aebraham: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Driver_Interface_Specification [18:12] aebraham: Network Driver Interface Specification, it's a standard [18:12] thanks leftyfb lol [18:12] leftyfb, im sorry, but you are mistaken, its even in the documentation [18:13] > For what it's worth, I paired my iPhone with my PC, and it shows up as a Bluetooth hotspot. I haven't tried USB, though. [18:13] Bluetooth internet is sooo slow it's not even worth considering [18:13] It's good for your smartwatch to fetch the occasional news or notification, but nothing much [18:13] frad: sorry, but I am not mistaken. There is no "powerfoff" command in the systemctl documentation. [18:13] this is iseless [18:13] u* [18:14] frad: please copy this and search the documentation for it: powerfoff [18:14] I wonder if frad is telling the truth and the documentation has a typo [18:14] veryloud: I doubt that very much [18:14] I doubt it too lol [18:14] https://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/man/systemd-halt.service.html [18:15] veryloud: So if iPhones don't use NDIS, is that something I can fix on the phone or a setting I need to change on Ubuntu? [18:15] I typed systemctl --help, there is a 'poweroff' option listed there [18:15] aebraham: could require a driver [18:15] frad: yes, poweroff is there, not powerfoff [18:15] a lol [18:15] ;) [18:16] you could have pointed that out though [18:16] I did, I said it was an invalid command :) [18:17] corrected: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/9MBhzkjbBH/ [18:17] frad: I'm also helping to reinforce some attention to detail. That will go a long way :) [18:17] that's true [18:17] frad: is there any downside to just testing those out? [18:17] I don't want to log off [18:17] I see nothing damaging about either one of them [18:18] first one will power off the machine, regardeless of how many apps are being used. If vls is the only app being used, how bad is that for the machine long term? [18:19] I meant vlc* [18:21] alternatively, would this work? sleep 60m && vlc://quit && sleep 61m && systemctl poweroff === ijohnson is now known as ijohnson|lunch [18:24] frad: I'm not sure I understand the problem. Closing the app, waiting a few seconds and shutting down is just fine [18:28] well, if the second command works, then all will be fine [18:29] you really should test things like this [18:29] I only have one computer. will give it a try in 5 hours [18:29] frad: you could test with a container and a different app other than vlc === Rochvellon is now known as Guest24558 [18:34] Hi [18:35] I'm using focal-server-cloudimg-amd64-disk-kvm.img, but it cls_bpf module is missing, do you know if it's possible to install and using it? [18:35] it's available inside linux-modules-5.4.0-58-generic but not inside linux-modules-5.4.0-1031-kvm [18:40] hi all - i just upgrade my ubuntu 18 to ubuntu 20 (server), and now my networking seems to be MIA, systctl restart networking results in unit networking.service not found [18:41] daum: networking has been replaced with systemd-networkd, usually using netplan. [18:43] foxide, ah yes, i recall that, google led me astray with that being first result. Will have to see why my previous netplan isn't being picked up correctly [18:44] daum: If you're willing, pastebin your current netplan configuration, and I'll see if I can help. [18:44] Please ONLY censor public IPs and such. MAC addresses, private IPs, etc. aren't sensitive. [18:44] yep one sec [18:50] Im using a docker contianer that needs to bind to the ubuntu $DISPLAY but this environment var isnt set for me. is this var set for you guys [18:50] ah did networks cards get changed back to eno1/2 ? i have for example enp65s0f0 but now it looks like it's got ensf0/ens3f1 and then eno1/eno2 [18:51] devslash: yeah, are you using xorg or wayland? [18:51] oh I just realized osmething... [18:51] nm but thanks [18:57] @foxide, fyi https://i.imgur.com/mGiz8rt.png is the netplan which is the same as before it hink it has to do with the network card possibly [19:01] veryloud: A lot of people are got my problem after iOS 14, looks like there's some work going on to fix it: https://github.com/libimobiledevice/libimobiledevice/issues/1038 [19:01] *have got [19:01] @foxide, yeah that's it my enp65s0fX card got renamed to ens3fX any idea what that would happen [19:12] Hi all. I have kernel 5.8.0-43-generic, and was wondering if there's an easy way to use an older, or even LTS kernel. I had a look with apt-cache search linux* but didn't see any [19:14] I'm having a problem with the mouse wheel on my external mouse. I don't see a setting for it in the o/s settings. I have to scroll the wheel several times before it makes the window scroll. https://imgur.com/a/O8bq4Yo [19:14] Does anyone know what might be causing it? [19:15] longshanks: what version of ubuntu? [19:17] I've tried turning on natural scrolling and increasing the mouse speed but that doesn't change anything. Strangely, I get no scrolling action from the wheel at all in the settings window itself (no matter how many times I turn the wheel). [19:19] leftyfb: 20.10 [19:29] T minus 1h15min for splashdown at mars [19:30] !ot | Apachez [19:30] Apachez: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [19:30] Apachez: already watching the livestream [19:31] any ideas on how to install an older kernel on 20.10 ? [19:39] greetings [19:42] does nobody talk on here? [19:42] RayzrShrp: this is a support channel. Feel free to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic [19:51] !ot | leftyfb [19:51] leftyfb: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! === SneakyNick_ is now known as SneakyNick [20:18] Hello. Got an unusual question. I suspect I am unable to access BIOS-setup because of Secure Boot. I believe the list of trusted software has been updated because of some stuff, and that my bios version ain't trusted because CA choose to include the updated version, ie not mine. Is there any way I can access the list CA trusts? [20:19] I want to check whether CA include only the most recent bios on its list, i.e. excluding mine. [20:20] SneakyNick: that *is* an unusual question; what on earth hardware is this that it's so awkwardly constrained? [20:20] Did I express myself clearly? My computer contains a list of trusted software. Can I check/review the list? I need to see if my bios version is on it. [20:21] lenovo laptop, ideapad. [20:22] I know next to nothing about the ideapad line but I expected something far more exotic [20:23] well, the question seems generic to me. Shouldn't depend on which computer it is. [20:23] Do anyone have the opportunity to check the list from CA? [20:24] its stored on the motherboard as far as i understand. [20:24] SneakyNick: well, uh, what is "list from CA"? [20:24] SneakyNick: if this is a *standard* consumer machine with nothing strange in it, then there's nothing in the uefi setup that could restrict you from running the uefi setup [20:24] SneakyNick: "My computer contains a list of trusted software." — No, that's not how Secure Boot works [20:25] Your machine contains a public key that belongs to the manufacturer, and they sign the UEFI releases with the corresponding private key, allowing your mention to verify whether the UEFI you're running was signed by the manufacturer [20:26] SneakyNick: you can't access your BIOS? [20:26] I'd first assume that (a) perhaps whatever key you're pressing is the wrong key (b) perhaps that key is dead, if it's the right key (c) *maybe* there's a way the OS can request the next boot not allow entering UEFI setup, eg perhaps firmware updates, but that's a big guess [20:26] So there is no list that you can refer to; you can only ask the question: "I *have* this version of the software, is it signed?" [20:26] Releases cannot be "unsigned" retrospectively, so if you were ever able to get into the UEFI, you should still be able to [20:27] Are you dual-booting with Windows, perchance? [20:28] jivan: those keys are in this context utilized for verifying software integrity, to check if they are allowed to run. For practical purposes, functionally its a list. [20:29] There is no list. To construct a list, one would need to exhaustively look at every piece of UEFI softare that has ever been created and check to see whether it was signed by the manufacturer [20:29] leftyfb: bios-setup. bios itself is working fine, of course. [20:29] Anyway, so you're mashing F2 on boot but it's not going into the settings? [20:30] SneakyNick: what is "bios-setup"? [20:30] Hello. I have postgres 13 installed and also have some docker conatiners. postgres is not running inside container. I modified postgres cond file to listen on docker0 interface. The problem is that on reboot docker0 is not available when postgres service starts. I can add "After=docker.service" to /lib/systemd/system/postgresql.service to make this work. [20:31] But I am afraid that this is not best solution since another postgres upgrade might overide this file. [20:31] Guma: what errors do you get inthe logs? [20:31] @sarnold which specific log? [20:32] sarnold: i understand you assume this is a normal case. Let me show you a video. It shows me trying to access bios-setup in what should be the most reliable way, the 'novo'-button. It's a pin-hole button which brings up an emergency menu. I have of course tried all the usual approaches. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKRM8FbFshU [20:36] SneakyNick: ugh :( it might be time to call lenovo on this one [20:37] Guma: wherever postgres logs to :) maybe that's journalctl -u postgresql or maybe that's /var/log/postgres or somewhere else.. [20:39] back, sorry for the disconnect [20:42] SneakyNick: I've not seen that novo menu before [20:42] SneakyNick: it feels like it's time to call lenovo support, I'd certainly expect that thing to get you into the uefi setup [20:43] jivan: yes, its dualboot with windows. Whether there is an actual list or if its merely components storing their own certificate. At any rate, the bios is either white or blacklisted by a CA. [20:44] Fonts: I've installed `fonts-senamirmir-washra`, the only apt-search hit for "jiret", and still `mktextfm` says "! I can't find file `jiret12'.". What do? [20:45] sarnold: lenovo wants me to reset the laptop to factory defaults and update the bios. I don't want to. I'd like to know if my bios is okay by CA or not. [20:45] update the bios can be risky. I also want to know what went wrong here. [20:45] SneakyNick: Lenovo will not ask you to reset/wipe your OS since it's not relevant [20:46] leftyfb: those helplines tend to be algorithmic. [20:47] SneakyNick: at this point, this is not an Ubuntu issue. You need to contact Lenovo for support [20:47] leftfb: sure, its not a ubuntu issue. [20:47] unsure what type of issue it is. [20:47] SneakyNick: it's a Lenovo issue [20:49] SneakyNick: "At any rate, the bios is either white or blacklisted by a CA." — Sure, point taken there [20:49] Anyway, re Windows, you may need to disable fastboot in Windows [20:50] Since you have Windows installed, you should be able to get into the UEFI by holding SHIFT when clicking Restart in Windows, which will boot you back into Windows' boot options, one of which should be "UEFI Firmware Settings" [20:50] anyway, wanted to ask if anyone here knew a way to check what input secure boot is getting, i.e what SB thinks is okay.. [20:50] Otherwise, the documented way to do it on an Ideapad is to mash F2 on boot, or hold FN and mash F2 on boot [20:51] I have lxd installed as a snap on raspbian and I try to import a qcow2 image using `lxc image import `, but it fails... Error: exec: "qemu-img": executable file not found in $PATH [20:51] I have qemu and qemu-utils installed as regular packages [20:51] Here's what Lenovo says, anyway: https://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/solutions/ht500216-recommended-way-to-enter-bios-ideapad [20:51] lord4163: you might want to ask for support in #raspberrypi or #snappy [20:51] lord4163: we can only support Ubuntu here [20:52] jivan: the system behaves as if bios-setup isn't allowed to run. It doesn't matter how I try to access setup. The video I shared clearly demonstrate it. [20:52] leftyfb: ok, well, both LXD and snap are Ubuntu products, so I thought I would have the most luck here. [20:52] SneakyNick: contact Lenovo support [20:52] Sorry, didn't see the video, was AFK for a bit [20:52] I'll take a look now [20:53] for your amusement: if I repeatedly hit f2, the system pauses. Its as if it tries to load setup, but aborts. When I press f2 many times, its as if there is a process repeating itself many times, as many as f2 is pressed. [20:53] parachute deployed woho! [20:54] SneakyNick: From the video, it seems like a firmware bug [20:54] lord4163: is qemu-img on your user's path? or root's path? I'm not sure if I'd expect it to be vendored into the snap or supplied by the system.. [20:54] I can only suggest that you get Lenovo to repair it, they should be able to physically reflash the UEFI or replace the chip [20:54] !ot | Apachez [20:54] Apachez: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please register with NickServ (see /msg ubottu !register) and use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks! [20:54] Apachez: please stop. There's plenty of other channels to chat about non-ubuntu support topics [20:55] sarnold: it is in my user's path and in the one of root [20:55] lord4163: hmm https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/qnqMP8BcNH/ [20:55] Apachez: feel free to join $ubuntu-offtopic [20:55] SneakyNick: Out of curiosity, what's the behaviour if you hold SHIFT when clicking Restart in Windows? [20:55]