[20:51] <valorie> RikMills: I saw your question about installer in -devel and wondered if the discussion would be easier in here?
[20:52] <valorie> since you are sort of alone in devel/packaging altho possibly erich would help with Cala
[20:52] <valorie> since they are using it now in -studio
[20:52] <valorie> it's sort of up to you to choose, right?
[20:52] <valorie> which one is more work for you?
 Hi
 I didn't see the message in Devel, I'll see if I can find it
[20:55] <valorie>  <IrcsomeBot> <RikMills> I guess the question is for the future: calamares, or the new Ubuntu installer ???
[20:55] <valorie> my vote is cala but I'm not doing the work
 I think we need to have an understanding about features, and the OEM functions of the new Ubuntu Installer. For me I think Calamares should be very seriously considered,  it has ongoing support and dedicated community, which is a very valuable asset.
[21:56] <valorie> indeed
[21:56] <valorie> I think that erich is working on the OEM stuff since it is needed for his job
[21:56] <valorie> and for the Focus
[21:57] <valorie> I was hoping that Sys76 would go that way but they wrote their own installer
 I did read some posts in the Calamares release notes, they have some functionality for OEM
[21:57] <valorie> I wonder what slimbook etc. use?
[21:58] <valorie> the neon team surely know
 Hmmm good point.
[22:04] <valorie> I get why there are multiple installers but goodness
[22:04] <valorie> instead of multiplying , why not collaborate?
[22:05] <valorie> and iterate
 Completely agree, I think that's the way to go
[22:24] <valorie> should I invite erich in here?
[22:24] <valorie> I'll wait for @RikMills to speak up
[22:25] <valorie> and I think it's beer o'clock for him
[22:25] <valorie> :-)
 Oooo Beers O'Clock what a good idea
[22:25] <valorie> @tsimonq2 speak up if you wanna
[22:25] <valorie> lol
[22:26] <valorie> ttyl @Sick_Rimmit
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[22:26] <tsimonq2> Nothing to really say, Cala us a solid choice and I will help if I can.
[22:26] <tsimonq2> *is
 {{hugs}} see you @Valoriez
[22:27] <valorie> how are you, tsimonq2?
[22:27] <valorie> frozen like a popsicle?
[22:28] <tsimonq2> Oh for sure heh :) otherwise I'm doing well, thanks. I'm trying a beard out again and it's actually looking decent this time
[22:28] <valorie> nice
[22:28] <valorie> BeardySimon
[22:29] <tsimonq2> One of my friends told me today that I look like Tony Stark from a distance. No complaints here ;)
[22:29] <valorie> HA!
[22:29] <valorie> wouldn't it be fun to have his toys?
[22:29] <tsimonq2> (The weight loss contributes to that, I'm 70 lbs down from when you saw me last.)
[22:29] <valorie> wow
[22:29] <tsimonq2> Oh yes. Definitely.
[22:29] <valorie> you've been active
[22:30] <tsimonq2> Diet is everything, exercise just keeps me happy :)
[22:30] <valorie> how's college going?
[22:30] <valorie> completely sick of the online?
[22:30] <tsimonq2> 100x over.
[22:31] <valorie> february is the hardest month every year
[22:31] <valorie> good damn thing it's the shortest one
[22:32] <valorie> flowers blooming here; snowdrops
[22:32] <valorie> but also primroses and Christmas rose
[22:33] <valorie> spring is coming!
 I have almost got Daffs, maybe another week
 YaY!
[22:33] <valorie> and people are getting vaccinated
[22:33] <tsimonq2> Right!
[22:33] <tsimonq2> And yes
[22:33] <valorie> so I think we're moving ahead
[22:33] <valorie> I hope we soon begin shipping vaccines to poor countries
[22:34] <valorie> and sort of right the ship
[22:34] <valorie> very much hope
[22:34] <valorie> it's been a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooong yer
 @valorie, perhaps, but not tonight 😴