[00:14] <JackFrost> bluesabre: Sorry to ask, but thoughts on calamares?
[00:21] <JackFrost> Oh, well nevermind.  I forgot.
[00:26] <JackFrost> I forgot it was Qt, but the problems with ubiquity can be really annoying..
[01:12] <bluesabre> JackFrost: never used calamares, so no opinion there :)
[01:13] <JackFrost> bluesabre: Emery is having issues with Ubiquity, we've been having them since 20.10 really.  My thought was "Another installer option, sounds great", but Qt/QML sooo...
[01:14] <JackFrost> Some people have the issues, some don't.  It's complicated..
[01:17] <bluesabre> I'm not opposed to using it if it makes our installation more reliable. Having QT just on live isn't the worst experience.
[01:17] <bluesabre> Though, the new installer might exist by 21.10
[01:20] <JackFrost> It'd be nice if we can create the initial bit, then forget about it.
[01:21] <JackFrost> https://git.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares-settings-ubuntu/tree/ubuntustudio
[01:23] <bluesabre> Looks like it shouldn't be too hard to implement
[01:24] <JackFrost> Also, I can maybe try a build of it in Core if you want?  Pre-upload/merge too.
[01:25] <bluesabre> Go for it, happy to help where I can if I can
[01:25] <bluesabre> :)
[01:30] <JackFrost> https://thumbs.gfycat.com/GenuineGoldenBelugawhale-size_restricted.gif :3
[01:35] <bluesabre> JackFrost:, jphilips, where's the bug report / meh fix for gnome-software replacing itself with a snap?
[01:41] <JackFrost> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-software/+bug/1879318 well that's fun...
[01:41] <ubot3> Launchpad bug 1879318 in gnome-software (Ubuntu) "Removing gnome software snap plugin breaks gnome software storefront on Xubuntu 20.04" [Low, Confirmed]
[01:47] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Merge pull request #9 from philipzae/settings-manager-sound @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/d3c7297ea55092d200c5e9b94917f63d97cb8e26 (by bluesabre)
[01:49] <JackFrost> ↑ could be confusing if pavucontrol isn't installed.
[01:49] <bluesabre> Oh good point
[01:49] <JackFrost> Also, haha!  calamares would install vlc. :P
[01:49] <bluesabre> Should add TryExec to that
[01:50] <bluesabre> :D
[01:50] <JackFrost> No idea how Xfce treats tryexec, just figured I'd point it out.  We likely seed it in both Desktop and Core.
[01:50] <JackFrost> Ouch....That's a *lot* of Qt...
[01:57] -SwissBot:#xubuntu-devel- ::xubuntu-default-settings:: Add TryExec key to verify installation of pavucontrol @ https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-default-settings/commit/fd6d67193e2085d64d2840a0158d1b4714111924 (by bluesabre)
[02:02] <bluesabre> Alrighty, I'm out for the night, back tomorrow
[02:03] <JackFrost> Sleep fine!
[02:07] <jphilips> bluesabre: didn't file a bug report for it. we've been discussing how to fix it here in IRC.
[02:08] <JackFrost> I don't think there's any good options, unfortunately. :/
[03:23] <cappydev> debian
[03:23] <cappydev> https://fedora.com
[19:39] <jphilips> bluesabre: libreoffice math is in the office menu, so duplicating it in the education menu, when its the only entry in there was what i was getting at