[13:56] <Mamarok> Despite being in a high risk group I am still at least a month away from getting a vaccine, something went very wrong in Germany, the organisation is a disaster. Apparently I might have to wait as long as January next year if the same rythm of vaccination goes on...
[13:58] <Mamarok> valorie: sadly the WTO prevented vaccines being produced cheaper, so I fear poorer coubntries are still very far away from getting them
[13:59] <Mamarok> and of course the manufacturers tried to get an insane amount of money which doesn't help either
[20:50] <valorie> Mamarok: oh, I had not heard aboout Germany's vaccine issues
[20:51] <valorie> y'all have been doing so well!
[20:51] <valorie> my state has about 11% with at least one shot
[20:51] <valorie> but everything has been delayed a few days because of the awful weather in the rest of the country
[20:51] <valorie> shipping slowdowns everywhere
[21:14] <Mamarok> currently they haven't even finished vaccinating Group 1 here, I am in group 2
[21:16] <Mamarok> not many in group 1 are eligible for teh SAstraZeneca Vaccine, neither am I. There is apparently enough around of that one but the distribution is not really working. Anyway, with the British variant making up 20% of the infected we will need new vaccines anyway within no time
[21:18] <Mamarok> there is a pandemic in the pandemic but the German government is stupidly ignoring it, if it weren't for the only scientist in that government (Mrs Merkel) we would in even greater trouble
[21:19] <Mamarok> most of the government in Germany is made up of stupid old white men who don't have a clue about anything and still worskip the "but the economy!" mantra...
[21:54] <valorie> I worried that Biden would do that
[21:54] <valorie> but so far pretty good
 Maybe the time is coming for open source government, based on meritocracy
[22:00] <valorie> mmmm, I dunno about so-called meritocracy
[22:00] <valorie> in practice it doesn't always work well
[22:01] <valorie> but open-source absolutely
[22:01] <valorie> imo the key is effectiveness
[22:01] <valorie> for everyone, not just the rich