 Finally proposed is unblocked, so plasma 5.21.0 and fw 5.79 will be on next iso build 😀
 @RikMills, That's great news
 btw I'm doing the fw thing I didn't have time yet to do
 a bit late but I guess the packages could take a bit to migrate
 @Santa, all done now, so no worries
 updated https://community.kde.org/Plasma/Live_Images#Ships_Plasma_5.21
[11:07] <guiverc> not sure if this is anything; neon user asked on askubu (off-topic) about https://packages.ubuntu.com/focal/kup-backup which has a recommends for 'bup', user says it's required.. I've not used software, but is there an issue with a 'recommends' and it doesn't exist (dropped as it was dep python2.7)
[11:37] <mparillo> so 2021-02-20 05:43	 should have 5.21 and FW 5.79?
 yes
[11:41] <mparillo> TY. zsyncing. I should be able to sanity-check today.
[12:23] <mparillo> I noticed that the daily ISO loads a GRUB menu where I can see the OEM option. Much nicer than the old ISO where I had to keep mashing any key and then hit F4 (IIRC).
[12:23] <mparillo> The live image is indeed 5.21 / 5.79
[12:26] <mparillo> However, the desktop in my VM appears solid black with no icon on it for Installing Kubuntu (did we default to Kwin-Wayland?). No crisis, as the live session user can type install in the application launcher or in krunner.
[12:28] <mparillo> My region came up as Antigua. When I changed it to United States, I could not select my time zone.
[12:30] <RikMills> mparillo: in my VM https://i.imgur.com/PwF06wc.png
[12:32] <mparillo> So maybe something strange in my Hardware, my Win10 host, or VMware.
[12:33] <mparillo> Clicking on the links in the slideshow still does nothing, but otherwise the install seemed successful. Re-booting my VM.
[12:35] <mparillo> Everything seems good on re-boot. Discover prompted me to update, which is proceeding. I noticed that we install ksysguard. Did I read somewhere there was a new system monitor?
[12:35] <mparillo> Ahh, we get both
[12:37] <RikMills> the new one depends on ksysguard, which is annoying
[12:38] <mparillo> My vote: Put the new System Monitor in Favorites, leave the old ksysguard only under System in Application Launcher.
[12:38] <RikMills> hmmmm
[12:39] <mparillo> And they both have the same icon in the Icons-only Task Manager
[12:41] <mparillo> Libre Office looks better and better. I wish K^HCalligra kept improving.
[12:41] <mparillo> So big thanks to you and Santa.
 (Photo, 785x285) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/tw91cuWe/file_41777.jpg
[12:42] <RikMills> mparillo: I guess that is the timezone issue ^^
[12:43] <mparillo> The funny thing, is once installed, it guessed my time (Eastern).
[12:44] <RikMills> I think the guessing is ok, but it can't return it to the UI in a form it can read
[12:46] <RikMills> mparillo: can you report a bug? if you don't have the time, no worries
[13:11] <mparillo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1916331
[13:19] <BluesKaj> Howdy folks
[13:22] <RikMills> mparillo: thanks!
 5.21 has been impressive so far on my laptop. Thanks Rik and Santa for keeping Kubuntu alive!
 @DarinMiller https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/WaylandByDefaultForPlasma
 Which is April release I think
 Interesting, I am told a fedora dev might be wanting to talk to us about some collaboration, but I don't know what about. Perhaps it might be that as we have the same(ish) release month.
 I had not seen that website, but I have heard rumblings for "non-nvidia" consideration.  But looks like Fedora is going hook, line and sinker...
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/m8lLAHl5/file_41797.mp4
 Gotta be careful what you catch!
 😀
 We don't have a 'bigger boat' :P
 Desktop upgrade to  21.04 on my desktop was very smooth.  And I booted into wayland from my Nvdia desktop with proprietary drivers enabled for the 1st time ever. :)
 Wayland Nvidia?
 (Document) https://irc-attachments.kde.org/qCLI14K2/file_41802.mp4
 Yes, Wayland NVidia..... but no go.. Lots of rough edges still.  Wine games do not run-including proton based games.  Dual display scaling is still a bit quirky as is adjusting panel sizes in wayland mode.
 Found enough paper cuts in the 1st three minutes to push me back to X.
 To be expected honestly
[22:12] <valorie> I think I'll upgrade my travel lappy soon
[22:12] <valorie> no nvidia issues in that one
 I've managed to survive on wayland for more than a month, using amdgpu free