[03:03] <ubptgbot> <JIHP334> I have a question, it might be a weird one though. I got this weird curiosity. Is it possible to replace the Ubuntu Touch recovery with a different recovery like TWRP? And if it’s possible, will it affect the Ubuntu Touch installation in any way?
[03:19] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> yes it is possible and yes it will affect your installation: ota updates will no longer work
[03:27] <ubptgbot> <JIHP334> @Fuseteam [yes it is possible and yes it will affect your installation: ota updates will no …], Oh. That’s interesting. … Thanks for answering.
[05:42] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> it may still work if you have the multirom TWRP I guess … OTA works on my Nexus 5 with multirom
[06:09] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> @Javacookies [it may still work if you have the multirom TWRP I guess … OTA works on my Nexus 5 …], that would be sweet
[06:13] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> with the backup options I always thought it would be a great thing to get going
[06:13] <ubptgbot> <mateosalta> was partialy the compression format?
[09:20] <ubptgbot> <saligari> @saligari [<reply to media>], There is still no data in the settings, but in ~15 hours idle the battery only fell ~6%. I think previously I had not shut off the screen myself, but had let it turn off itself.
[09:20] <ubptgbot> <saligari> Not that this should happen, but I think that may be it. I've also rebooted, though
[13:29] <ubptgbot> <Somhairle> Hi. I bought a Pinestore Community Edition Linux Smartphone ages ago and just haven't been able to get it to work. Pine 64 if I remember correctly - I can't find either the packaging or the properties of the phone. Please note - I am NOT a techie at all - a techie friend of mine recommended it but he lives miles away and is very busy. I
[13:29] <ubptgbot>  can ring and receive texts (although the phone reception is terrible). It won't allow me to switch on my data and I can't even transfer my contacts from my SIM. Thanks
[14:00] <ubptgbot> <Somhairle> actually I can hardly phone or receive calls now either
[14:12] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @saligari [Not that this should happen, but I think that may be it. I've also rebooted, tho …], hmmm so many variables
[14:16] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Somhairle [Hi. I bought a Pinestore Community Edition Linux Smartphone ages ago and just ha …], hi, you can find the properties and current status of the pinephone at devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/pinephone
[14:20] <ubptgbot> <Somhairle> I can't see the point of this phone if so many things don't work on it....!
[14:21] <ubptgbot> <alan_griffiths> @Somhairle [I can't see the point of this phone if so many things don't work on it....!], The point is to (hopefully) interest developers in making things work.
[14:23] <ubptgbot> <Somhairle> Unfortunately I'm not a developer or a techie - it seems my friend who recommended I buy the phone misled me....Oh well, maybe I'll sell it to sb on this forum....😀
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> @Somhairle [Unfortunately I'm not a developer or a techie - it seems my friend who recommend …], Have you tried getting help in this group?  https://t.me/utonpine.
[14:24] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> oh my 👀
[14:26] <ubptgbot> <Somhairle> Thanks Myii!
[14:29] <ubptgbot> <imraniqbal> @Somhairle [Thanks Myii!], You're welcome, hope it helps you reach a reasonable result.
[14:30] <ubptgbot> <PiecerEdd> imagine recommending your non-techie friend a pinephone! i think you'll be able to use it well though if youre prepared to upgrade it and stuff though
[14:58] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> @Somhairle [Unfortunately I'm not a developer or a techie - it seems my friend who recommend …], yeah blame your friend  … it's definitely not for non-techie people especially right now, hopefully in the future it will be … I'm kind of techie and I don't even use it as one of my daily phones 😄
[15:49] <ubptgbot> <Sanath> Does Ubports have an official account on mastodon?
[16:32] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> yes ubports has an official mastodon account
[16:32] <ubptgbot> <JIHP334> Is it possible to wireless print from an Ubuntu Touch device?
[16:33] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> https://framapiaf.org/@ubports_bot
[16:33] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @JIHP334 [Is it possible to wireless print from an Ubuntu Touch device?], Ubuntu Touch doesn't have a printing app atm
[16:34] <ubptgbot> <TronFortyTwo> @JIHP334 [Is it possible to wireless print from an Ubuntu Touch device?], Maybe using cups or something in libertine...
[16:35] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @TronFortyTwo [Maybe using cups or something in libertine...], there's this but it is not currently part of the rootfs: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-printing-app
[16:36] <ubptgbot> <Sanath> @Fuseteam [yes ubports has an official mastodon account], Can you please share the official handle name,i see three handles using UBports name : … @ubports@framapiaf.org … @Ubports@mastodon.rocks … @ubports@pixelfed.social
[16:54] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Fuseteam [https://framapiaf.org/@ubports_bot], Sanath this is what i see linked on the website but i do remember pixelfed also being mentioned by @UniversalSuperBox on the Q & A
[16:55] <ubptgbot> <Sanath> @Fuseteam [Sanath this is what i see linked on the website but i do remember pixelfed also …], I will follow both.thanks🙂
[16:59] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @TronFortyTwo [Maybe using cups or something in libertine...], [Edit] there's this but it is not currently part of the rootfs: https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-printing-app........ [actually i see three](https://github.com/ubports?q=print&type=&language=), i'm not sure which one is not included right now
[17:02] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> I think printing was removed for some reason.
[17:40] <ubptgbot> <TartanSpartan> IIRC it took up too much space for the image to fit on some devices?
[17:44] <ubptgbot> <Javacookies> that's also what I remember but I'm not really sure
[17:51] <ubptgbot> <nanu_c> @Fuseteam [Ubuntu Touch doesn't have a printing app atm], @Flohack was working on one 2 years ago, but i think focus on core things is the most important at the moment
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[18:21] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @JIHP334 [Is it possible to wireless print from an Ubuntu Touch device?], We never landed this parts, because driver installation needs polishing, to make it easier to bring new drivers ins, and also because it blew up the size of the rootfs such that some devices could not install it anymore
[18:28] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Flohack [We never landed this parts, because driver installation needs polishing, to make …], that was before we got rid of oxide though; perhaps we can bring printing back in with OTA-17 as a possibility. but def not for 16 :)
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> i don't know if wifi direct or bluetooth printing would work though
[18:29] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @dohbee [that was before we got rid of oxide though; perhaps we can bring printing back i …], Oh good point. Also, Halium port for OPo will switch to cache-in-data-partition model, and we can apply this to all devices probably that need it
[18:30] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> So the cache partition limitation should be no issue and in fact it should not be.
[18:33] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> mm, but then updates will be blocked if people don't keep enough space free on their phones
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[19:05] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Flohack [We never landed this parts, because driver installation needs polishing, to make …], wait driver installations? like the app installing drivers?
[19:05] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> @Fuseteam [wait driver installations? like the app installing drivers?], printer PPDs
[19:06] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> oh right PPDs 🤔
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[19:35] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Fuseteam [oh right PPDs 🤔], For PPDs you need to give users some options to import them, since we cannot ship all potential drivers on the planet.
[19:36] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @Flohack [For PPDs you need to give users some options to import them, since we cannot shi …], "rootfs image size has been increased to 256gb due to the inclusion of printer drivers"
[19:36] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @dohbee [mm, but then updates will be blocked if people don't keep enough space free on t …], Yes thats a concern. Our update system is a bit rigid in that regard, we could of course place temp files in multiple places depending on whats currently free. Also, our recoveries tend to mount less and less partitions so we also need to take ca
[19:36] <ubptgbot> re of that. Or maybe its time for our own recovery code :P
[19:37] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @amyosx ["rootfs image size has been increased to 256gb due to the inclusion of printer d …], Haha yess
[19:37] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> We need an overlay thing
[19:37] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Like /data/overlay
[19:37] <ubptgbot> <dohbee> convert everything to EFI
[19:37] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Then that gets mounted at /
[19:37] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> @dohbee [convert everything to EFI], Ewww
[19:38] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Actually no, efi rocks
[19:38] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> But why on a phone
[19:38] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @amyosx [Actually no, efi rocks], EFIdroid
[19:39] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Never used it
[19:39] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Never had an efi phone lmao
[19:39] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> Has anyone got it running on sdm632?
[19:39] <ubptgbot> <amyosx> windows 10 time
[19:43] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Flohack [For PPDs you need to give users some options to import them, since we cannot shi …], yeah that's the part i was wondering about
[19:45] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> those PPDs don't happen to install to a single folder would they? :p
[19:45] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Fuseteam [yeah that's the part i was wondering about], Yeah so we need kinda writable overlay where those drivers can sit, and we need probably a DBus-enabled backend service that can handle those things, also restarting CUPS to read new configurations etc. Current implementation can already print, I tried it long time ago, you can send
[19:45] <ubptgbot> PDFs to it, and they will come out. However, document format support is a bit of a problem, but you do not have access to the CUPS queue directly with current confinement
[19:46] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> @Flohack [Yeah so we need kinda writable overlay where those drivers can sit, and we need …], ah lot of work left
[19:47] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> btw which component was removed? i see three components that seem related to printing in the repos
[19:48] <ubptgbot> <Flohack> @Fuseteam [btw which component was removed? i see three components that seem related to pri …], Yes those 3 are all not in the rootfs right now
[19:49] <ubptgbot> <Fuseteam> ah thanks for clearing that up
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[23:54] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> Yay! So - the dual sim solution works for getting the Volla Phone to be able to be a daily driver in the USA - I am getting LTE mobile data through the AT&T network via a Red Pocket Mobile plan (on SIM slot 1) - and able to make calls and text via T-mobile on SIM slot 2.
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[23:56] <ubptgbot> <TotalSonic> Not the greatest of a download speed - but I will take it!