[03:13] <lotuspsychje> good morning
[08:03] <ducasse> good morning
[17:32] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: i always practice here https://hackertyper.net/
[17:33] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: ! :D
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> :p
[17:33]  * TJ- fires a bluetooth guided missle at lotuspsychje
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> lol
[17:33] <lotuspsychje> be carefull i bought a new dronegun
[17:34] <TJ-> I used quantum mode
[17:35] <leftyfb> Maik: I hope they get convinced
[17:36] <Maik> me too
[17:37] <Maik> https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/poll-about-possible-netboot-mini-iso-revival-in-future-ubuntu-releases/19457
[21:50] <Ussat> why.....just...why ?
[21:53] <jeremy31> Maybe just a version without the Nvidia proprietary drivers?  I wouldn't mind seeing a ISO at 1.5GB again
[21:58] <Ussat> I guess for a desktop....mabey, but for a server I see no need
[22:10] <Maik> people really want to install the server image and then a desktop like say Unity or Cinnamon on it? I wouldn't. That's where such a mini iso is handy.
[22:11] <daftykins> different strokes for different folks
[22:12] <jeremy31> Whatch you talkin about willis?
[22:14] <Ussat> meh.....I never use desktops on any of my systems, they are all servers
[22:15] <Ussat> Why bother with a mini, if all youre going to do is install a desktop ?
[22:16] <Ussat> and as a matter of fact, when I do have need for a desktop, I install server then a custom desktop, I mean, its a two liner
[22:20] <oerheks> yes, no, some want a clean desktop, i3 or cinnamon
[22:21] <oerheks> no gnome or kde cruft after install
[22:21] <Ussat> so..install em ?
[22:22] <Ussat> again, that hardly begs for a mini iso
[22:22] <Ussat> I dont use gnome or KDE BTW
[22:22] <daftykins> Tux racers everywhere
[22:22] <daftykins> ZOOM ZOOM
[22:23] <Ussat> I mean the DE folks already fucked up the server ISO's with that snap crap that belongs NO WHERE near servers
[22:23] <oerheks> cloud init?
[22:24] <Ussat> no, snaps
[22:24] <Ussat> Why in the name of anything would a server admin what software on their system that auto updates whenever the hell it wants
[22:25] <oerheks> if one wants Livepatch, you need snapd
[22:25] <oerheks> oh, updates can be scheduled
[22:25] <Ussat> Did I say anything about livepatcch ?
[22:25] <Ussat> No, they can not, they can be postponed
[22:25] <oerheks> i say it, to explain why i want it on my server
[22:25] <Ussat> but eventually will happen
[22:26] <Ussat> snaps are a HORRIBLE idea, and live patch could have been easilly implimented without snaps
[22:27] <Ussat> snaps , in an enterprise env are just nuts, I am looking at dropping Ubuntu totally over them.