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xu-help74wHello,08:36
xu-help74wI have had Xubuntu 20.04 LTS installed on my desktop for several months working like a charm. However after a recent update, now in 2021, the sound doesn’t work. I can set it to work manually by going to:08:36
xu-help74w- audio mixer, configuration, internal audio, profile (there I see that it is shut down, by the way), so I select “Analog exit surround 7.1” and it works.08:36
xu-help74wHowever, every time I restart the computer, I need to do this. I hoped it would be fixed thanks to a more recent update, but no. Is there a way to fix this permanently?08:36
xu-help74wNote: I also have Xubuntu working on a laptop, and there no problem.08:36
xu-help74wPer advance thank you.08:36
miu5Hi, as long as i can remember (on Xubuntu or any Ubuntu distro really) whenever id copy files to or from a USB or external Disk, there would be few minute wait-times or freezes of the copy process and ive had to allow it to unfreeze and complete. An example such as this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/397249/system-freezes-unresponsive-unusable-when-copying-large-file-to-usb  and this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/107703/why-is-my-pc-freez11:08
miu5ing-while-im-copying-a-file-to-a-pendrive/107722#107722.    Why in the year 2021, this issue has still not been fixed? Why cant the copy process be smooth and continue moving just like anyone would do the same on Windows?11:08
miu5obviously only happens on large files. and the PC's ive tried this on have more than 16GB of RAM11:10
AIBLCould someone program/code .. or suggest a program, which would beep if the computer/pc/laptop is on idle  ....  letting the user to switch off the idle pc/computer/laptop ?.  power management  allows to dim out screen  or  go into sleep or hibernate.. it doesn't have notification or beeper  option, so if one is away  from the laptop, you might as well forget.. and leave it on for long time.13:14
AIBL I don't know any ,  it would be much better for  prime OS distributions like debian/ubuntu/fedora/suse, rather than their derivatives to develop/distribute them inbuilt in the platform..  just an opinion13:18
Maik!discuss | AIBL13:19
ubottuAIBL: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!13:19
Maikor #xubuntu-offtopic for that matter13:19
Maikthen not...13:23
metbsdmy wifi icon is not showing the wifi cion16:52
coconutmetbsd, is nm-applet running?16:55
Maikmetbsd: is that Xfce installed on top of the server install you had?16:56
metbsdno16:57
metbsdit's installed with live xubuntu 20.0416:57
Maikok16:57
Maikmaybe you're wifi card is either turned ff with a hardware switch or... it isn't supported16:58
Maikff/off16:58
metbsdim not sure what applet it is16:58
Maikseriously16:59
Maikhow long you've been using linux metbsd?17:00
metbsdthree hours now17:00
Maikmetbsd: you've been asking questions in various channels more than 3 hours17:00
metbsdi thought you asked xubuntu17:01
metbsd3 days in total17:01
Maiknah, i bet it's longer17:01
coconutmetbsd, if you have the applet running, and there are no ssid listed while there are access points, then maybe the wifi chip does not get detected. An uefi upgrade might help then.17:01
Maikiirc you've been in various channels for more than a week, but ok17:02
metbsdhow do i make screenshot17:02
Maikmetbsd: ever searched on the web for answers before asking help?17:02
tomreyn"my wifi icon is not showing the wifi cion" - what does "cion" mean there? is it a typo for "icon"? or for "connection"?17:02
metbsdi wanna show you guys this icon17:02
Maiki know what icon you mean17:03
metbsdwith two arrows pointing left and right17:03
Maik?17:03
metbsdwifi shows in the applet17:04
Maikwifi doesn't show such a icon at all on xubuntu17:04
Maiki'm 100% sure17:04
metbsdbut the applet in notification area doesn't look right17:04
Maikshow a screenshot then17:04
metbsdtrying to figure out how to do that17:05
Maikwith a screenshot app and upload the screenshot to imgur or postimg17:05
Maikit's as easy as on Windows or Mac17:06
metbsdwindows i press win+shift s17:06
Maikprintscreen......17:06
metbsdthis laptop keyboard don't have printscreen. lol17:07
metbsdwait it does17:08
Maikseriously... look for a screenshot app in the xubuntu menu17:08
metbsdhttps://imgur.com/8xbGf5y.png17:09
metbsdyou see that17:09
metbsdhttps://imgur.com/Q1vvqZW.png17:09
metbsdthis is better without mouse pointer17:09
metbsdsee bottom right17:11
Maikone screenshot was enough and we see it clearly17:11
Maiki'm not blind... lol17:11
Maiknever seen that before, doesn't look like a wifi icon to me17:11
metbsdbut it says Network:17:12
Maikshrug17:13
tomreynmetbsd: what'S the name of the ISO file you booted from?17:14
metbsdxubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso17:15
metbsdyou guys wifi icon is ok?17:16
tomreynhere's what the *top* (because that'S where the panel is by defualt, not bottom) of the screen looks like on a system booted form this ISO, with no network connectivity: https://i.imgur.com/X2NDTVg.png17:16
metbsdyours look normal17:17
metbsdbad signal though17:17
metbsdit's empty17:17
tomreynno signal in fact17:17
tomreynyou seem to have moved the panel to the bottom, and be using a custom icon set17:17
metbsdthe network-manager.service is working properly17:18
Maikmetbsd: if you are connected to the internet then what's the problem?17:18
metbsdFeb 21 11:52:53 bunbun NetworkManager[707]: <info>  [1613926373.5988] device (wlp7s0): Activation: successful, device activated.17:18
Maika icon is just a icon17:18
metbsdproblem is, applet is not reading from network-manager correctly17:19
metbsdan icon is not just an icon17:19
metbsdit's a symbol17:19
metbsdit means alot to me17:19
metbsdand people around me17:19
Maikas tomreyn said, you are using a custom icon set....?17:19
metbsdit's default17:19
metbsdbut it says: Requesting a Wifi network address for "ssid"17:20
metbsdeven if i add extra notification, still the same17:20
tomreynis this a live/installer system, though, or a fully installed system?17:20
metbsdi use that iso to install17:20
Maikso a fully installed system17:21
metbsdisn't that live iso just dump whole thing to a system17:21
Maikdid you update it?17:21
metbsdall the time17:21
tomreynok, so it's reall yjust a problem with establishing the connection to your wireless AP, probably because of a badly supported wireless chipset17:21
metbsdbut network-manager doesn't show any problem17:21
metbsdlet me restart lightdm17:22
tomreynwhat *does* it show, though17:22
Maikrestart lightdm? I don't think THAT would make any difference.17:23
tomreynyou could tell us what this outputs:    lspci -knn | grep -E '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | grep -o '\[....:....\]'17:25
metbsdhttps://imgur.com/5n4OjvW.png17:25
metbsdi delete the notification and re-add it17:25
metbsdworks now17:25
coconutMaik, can't he install linux-firmware package and try a bios/uefi upgrade?17:25
metbsdyah things like that happen i usually check service status17:26
metbsdif service looks fine, it's most likely software glitch17:26
metbsdno need to dig lspci17:26
Maikseems you know your way around after all if you spit out these terms17:27
metbsdnono, without you guys help, i'll never accomplish17:28
metbsdi might have given up,or go back to ugly archlinux17:28
metbsdreally great help. thanks17:28
metbsdi even tell them archlinux is ugly in #archlinux17:29
Maiksure... i f you know Arch then Xubuntu is a piece of cake for you17:29
metbsdnot even close to buntu17:29
metbsdthey are just.. different approach17:30
metbsdnothing about easy or hard17:30
Maikhow long did you use arch?17:30
metbsdabout a week17:31
metbsdgotto read their wiki to do EVERYTHING17:31
metbsdfrom installation to small tuneup17:31
Maikas i said, if you used arch then you know your way around. I'll leave it at that. Good luck with Xubuntu. :)17:33
metbsdfrom now on i will always tell them their arch is butt ugly compare to good looking ubuntu17:34
Maikthat's called trolling, and wouldn't do that17:40
Maikanyway, we're going way offtopic here17:40
metbsdyou are right17:45
krytarikI'm gonna say one more thing though: If your installation of Arch isn't as beauty as you wish it was, then it's because you didn't manage to make it so.17:45
metbsdfor desktop i really prefer ubuntu17:48
metbsdless hassle17:48
metbsdfor server i rather debian or centos17:48
metbsdup and forever17:49
metbsdprobably ubuntu server is as good as debian17:51
metbsdbut ubuntu server don't have text installer17:52
metbsdthat's kind of limit it for installing in old hardware with strange graphics card17:53
coconutmetbsd, #ubuntu-discuss is for that17:54
krytarikmetbsd: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/step-by-step - if this ain't what you saw on trying to install Ubuntu Server, then I guess you did something wrong.. >_<17:58
krytarikBut yeah, neither of those are topics for here..17:59
metbsdi can't get install to there18:02
metbsdit's just all black18:02

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