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[08:36] <xu-help74w> Hello,
[08:36] <xu-help74w> I have had Xubuntu 20.04 LTS installed on my desktop for several months working like a charm. However after a recent update, now in 2021, the sound doesn’t work. I can set it to work manually by going to:
[08:36] <xu-help74w> - audio mixer, configuration, internal audio, profile (there I see that it is shut down, by the way), so I select “Analog exit surround 7.1” and it works.
[08:36] <xu-help74w> However, every time I restart the computer, I need to do this. I hoped it would be fixed thanks to a more recent update, but no. Is there a way to fix this permanently?
[08:36] <xu-help74w> Note: I also have Xubuntu working on a laptop, and there no problem.
[08:36] <xu-help74w> Per advance thank you.
[11:08] <miu5> Hi, as long as i can remember (on Xubuntu or any Ubuntu distro really) whenever id copy files to or from a USB or external Disk, there would be few minute wait-times or freezes of the copy process and ive had to allow it to unfreeze and complete. An example such as this: https://askubuntu.com/questions/397249/system-freezes-unresponsive-unusable-when-copying-large-file-to-usb  and this: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/107703/why-is-my-pc-freez
[11:08] <miu5> ing-while-im-copying-a-file-to-a-pendrive/107722#107722.    Why in the year 2021, this issue has still not been fixed? Why cant the copy process be smooth and continue moving just like anyone would do the same on Windows?
[11:10] <miu5> obviously only happens on large files. and the PC's ive tried this on have more than 16GB of RAM
[13:14] <AIBL> Could someone program/code .. or suggest a program, which would beep if the computer/pc/laptop is on idle  ....  letting the user to switch off the idle pc/computer/laptop ?.  power management  allows to dim out screen  or  go into sleep or hibernate.. it doesn't have notification or beeper  option, so if one is away  from the laptop, you might as well forget.. and leave it on for long time.
[13:18] <AIBL>  I don't know any ,  it would be much better for  prime OS distributions like debian/ubuntu/fedora/suse, rather than their derivatives to develop/distribute them inbuilt in the platform..  just an opinion
[13:19] <Maik> !discuss | AIBL
[13:19] <ubottu> AIBL: Want to talk about Ubuntu, but don't have a support question? /join #ubuntu-discuss for non-support Ubuntu discussion, or try #ubuntu-offtopic for general chat. Thanks!
[13:19] <Maik> or #xubuntu-offtopic for that matter
[13:23] <Maik> then not...
[16:52] <metbsd> my wifi icon is not showing the wifi cion
[16:55] <coconut> metbsd, is nm-applet running?
[16:56] <Maik> metbsd: is that Xfce installed on top of the server install you had?
[16:57] <metbsd> no
[16:57] <metbsd> it's installed with live xubuntu 20.04
[16:57] <Maik> ok
[16:58] <Maik> maybe you're wifi card is either turned ff with a hardware switch or... it isn't supported
[16:58] <Maik> ff/off
[16:58] <metbsd> im not sure what applet it is
[16:59] <Maik> seriously
[17:00] <Maik> how long you've been using linux metbsd?
[17:00] <metbsd> three hours now
[17:00] <Maik> metbsd: you've been asking questions in various channels more than 3 hours
[17:01] <metbsd> i thought you asked xubuntu
[17:01] <metbsd> 3 days in total
[17:01] <Maik> nah, i bet it's longer
[17:01] <coconut> metbsd, if you have the applet running, and there are no ssid listed while there are access points, then maybe the wifi chip does not get detected. An uefi upgrade might help then.
[17:02] <Maik> iirc you've been in various channels for more than a week, but ok
[17:02] <metbsd> how do i make screenshot
[17:02] <Maik> metbsd: ever searched on the web for answers before asking help?
[17:02] <tomreyn> "my wifi icon is not showing the wifi cion" - what does "cion" mean there? is it a typo for "icon"? or for "connection"?
[17:02] <metbsd> i wanna show you guys this icon
[17:03] <Maik> i know what icon you mean
[17:03] <metbsd> with two arrows pointing left and right
[17:03] <Maik> ?
[17:04] <metbsd> wifi shows in the applet
[17:04] <Maik> wifi doesn't show such a icon at all on xubuntu
[17:04] <Maik> i'm 100% sure
[17:04] <metbsd> but the applet in notification area doesn't look right
[17:04] <Maik> show a screenshot then
[17:05] <metbsd> trying to figure out how to do that
[17:05] <Maik> with a screenshot app and upload the screenshot to imgur or postimg
[17:06] <Maik> it's as easy as on Windows or Mac
[17:06] <metbsd> windows i press win+shift s
[17:06] <Maik> printscreen......
[17:07] <metbsd> this laptop keyboard don't have printscreen. lol
[17:08] <metbsd> wait it does
[17:08] <Maik> seriously... look for a screenshot app in the xubuntu menu
[17:09] <metbsd> https://imgur.com/8xbGf5y.png
[17:09] <metbsd> you see that
[17:09] <metbsd> https://imgur.com/Q1vvqZW.png
[17:09] <metbsd> this is better without mouse pointer
[17:11] <metbsd> see bottom right
[17:11] <Maik> one screenshot was enough and we see it clearly
[17:11] <Maik> i'm not blind... lol
[17:11] <Maik> never seen that before, doesn't look like a wifi icon to me
[17:12] <metbsd> but it says Network:
[17:13] <Maik> shrug
[17:14] <tomreyn> metbsd: what'S the name of the ISO file you booted from?
[17:15] <metbsd> xubuntu-20.04.2.0-desktop-amd64.iso
[17:16] <metbsd> you guys wifi icon is ok?
[17:16] <tomreyn> here's what the *top* (because that'S where the panel is by defualt, not bottom) of the screen looks like on a system booted form this ISO, with no network connectivity: https://i.imgur.com/X2NDTVg.png
[17:17] <metbsd> yours look normal
[17:17] <metbsd> bad signal though
[17:17] <metbsd> it's empty
[17:17] <tomreyn> no signal in fact
[17:17] <tomreyn> you seem to have moved the panel to the bottom, and be using a custom icon set
[17:18] <metbsd> the network-manager.service is working properly
[17:18] <Maik> metbsd: if you are connected to the internet then what's the problem?
[17:18] <metbsd> Feb 21 11:52:53 bunbun NetworkManager[707]: <info>  [1613926373.5988] device (wlp7s0): Activation: successful, device activated.
[17:18] <Maik> a icon is just a icon
[17:19] <metbsd> problem is, applet is not reading from network-manager correctly
[17:19] <metbsd> an icon is not just an icon
[17:19] <metbsd> it's a symbol
[17:19] <metbsd> it means alot to me
[17:19] <metbsd> and people around me
[17:19] <Maik> as tomreyn said, you are using a custom icon set....?
[17:19] <metbsd> it's default
[17:20] <metbsd> but it says: Requesting a Wifi network address for "ssid"
[17:20] <metbsd> even if i add extra notification, still the same
[17:20] <tomreyn> is this a live/installer system, though, or a fully installed system?
[17:20] <metbsd> i use that iso to install
[17:21] <Maik> so a fully installed system
[17:21] <metbsd> isn't that live iso just dump whole thing to a system
[17:21] <Maik> did you update it?
[17:21] <metbsd> all the time
[17:21] <tomreyn> ok, so it's reall yjust a problem with establishing the connection to your wireless AP, probably because of a badly supported wireless chipset
[17:21] <metbsd> but network-manager doesn't show any problem
[17:22] <metbsd> let me restart lightdm
[17:22] <tomreyn> what *does* it show, though
[17:23] <Maik> restart lightdm? I don't think THAT would make any difference.
[17:25] <tomreyn> you could tell us what this outputs:    lspci -knn | grep -E '(Network|Ethernet) controller' | grep -o '\[....:....\]'
[17:25] <metbsd> https://imgur.com/5n4OjvW.png
[17:25] <metbsd> i delete the notification and re-add it
[17:25] <metbsd> works now
[17:25] <coconut> Maik, can't he install linux-firmware package and try a bios/uefi upgrade?
[17:26] <metbsd> yah things like that happen i usually check service status
[17:26] <metbsd> if service looks fine, it's most likely software glitch
[17:26] <metbsd> no need to dig lspci
[17:27] <Maik> seems you know your way around after all if you spit out these terms
[17:28] <metbsd> nono, without you guys help, i'll never accomplish
[17:28] <metbsd> i might have given up,or go back to ugly archlinux
[17:28] <metbsd> really great help. thanks
[17:29] <metbsd> i even tell them archlinux is ugly in #archlinux
[17:29] <Maik> sure... i f you know Arch then Xubuntu is a piece of cake for you
[17:29] <metbsd> not even close to buntu
[17:30] <metbsd> they are just.. different approach
[17:30] <metbsd> nothing about easy or hard
[17:30] <Maik> how long did you use arch?
[17:31] <metbsd> about a week
[17:31] <metbsd> gotto read their wiki to do EVERYTHING
[17:31] <metbsd> from installation to small tuneup
[17:33] <Maik> as i said, if you used arch then you know your way around. I'll leave it at that. Good luck with Xubuntu. :)
[17:34] <metbsd> from now on i will always tell them their arch is butt ugly compare to good looking ubuntu
[17:40] <Maik> that's called trolling, and wouldn't do that
[17:40] <Maik> anyway, we're going way offtopic here
[17:45] <metbsd> you are right
[17:45] <krytarik> I'm gonna say one more thing though: If your installation of Arch isn't as beauty as you wish it was, then it's because you didn't manage to make it so.
[17:48] <metbsd> for desktop i really prefer ubuntu
[17:48] <metbsd> less hassle
[17:48] <metbsd> for server i rather debian or centos
[17:49] <metbsd> up and forever
[17:51] <metbsd> probably ubuntu server is as good as debian
[17:52] <metbsd> but ubuntu server don't have text installer
[17:53] <metbsd> that's kind of limit it for installing in old hardware with strange graphics card
[17:54] <coconut> metbsd, #ubuntu-discuss is for that
[17:58] <krytarik> metbsd: https://ubuntu.com/server/docs/install/step-by-step - if this ain't what you saw on trying to install Ubuntu Server, then I guess you did something wrong.. >_<
[17:59] <krytarik> But yeah, neither of those are topics for here..
[18:02] <metbsd> i can't get install to there
[18:02] <metbsd> it's just all black