| lubuntu | You'll never take me alive, copper! | 19:43 |
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| krotera[m] | Might anyone have any idea why, in the key bindings GUI (the `Global Actions Manager`), I can set ANY combo of keys for a command *EXCEPT* for `Win + E`? | 19:51 |
| wxl | yes | 19:51 |
| wxl | https://manual.lubuntu.me/stable/F/keyboard_shortcuts.html | 19:52 |
| krotera[m] | > if the W(indows) key opens the LXQT application menu (equivilant of the windows start menu) in Global-keys, Openbox commands like window resizing (W + arrow keys) will not work correctly. | 19:53 |
| krotera[m] | Huh. | 19:53 |
| krotera[m] | But other `Win` combos work just fine. D: And I think I had `Win + E` set up before, but now I can't set it again. I guess "not work correctly" must mean "work sporadically". | 19:54 |
| krotera[m] | * > if the W(indows) key opens the LXQT application menu (equivilant of the windows start menu) in Global-keys, Openbox commands like window resizing (W + arrow keys) will not work correctly. | 19:54 |
| krotera[m] | Huh. | 19:54 |
| krotera[m] | (`Win`, by itself, does indeed open the application launcher.) | 19:54 |
| wxl | in that case, nope. | 19:55 |
| wxl | what version are you on? | 19:55 |
| krotera[m] | Ubuntu 20.04 focal, 5.8.0-43-generic | 19:55 |
| kc2bez[m] | What did you bind `Win + E` to? | 19:56 |
| krotera[m] | Before, I bound it to `dolphin`, a file manager. Then I unbound it. Now, I can't bind anything to `Win + E`. | 19:56 |
| krotera[m] | `Win + Q` works just fine. | 19:57 |
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| krotera[m] | I guess I should call it `Meta` instead of `Win`. But `Meta + E`, in particular, will not register at all in the red-boxed element. xD | 19:57 |
| krotera[m] | * I guess I should call it `Meta` instead of `Win`. But `Meta + E`, in particular, will not appear at all in the red-boxed element when I press it. xD | 19:58 |
| krotera[m] | * I guess I should call it `Meta` instead of `Win`. But `Meta + E`, in particular, will not appear at all in the red-boxed element when I press it. xD | 19:59 |
| krotera[m] | `Q`, `W`, `R`, `T`, `A`, `S`, `D`, all work. Just not `E`. | 19:59 |
| wxl | try removing that entry and creating a new one | 20:01 |
| krotera[m] | * I guess I should call it `Meta` instead of `Win`. But `Meta + E`, in particular, **will not appear at all** in the red-boxed element when I press it. xD | 20:01 |
| krotera[m] | `Q`, `W`, `R`, `T`, `A`, `S`, `D`, all work. Just not `E`. | 20:01 |
| wxl | i certainly can't reproduce THAT behavior, though (where it won't take the keystroke) | 20:02 |
| krotera[m] | Did. The countdown in the red-boxed element just keeps going on `Meta + E`, as if I'm not pressing it. | 20:03 |
| lubot | [telegram] <teward001> is Meta+E mapped already elsewhere? | 20:03 |
| krotera[m] | <lubot "[telegram] <teward001> is Meta+E"> No | 20:03 |
| krotera[m] | Is there some way to open the Global Actions Manager with command line output, to spot any errors? : o | 20:04 |
| wxl | of course | 20:04 |
| krotera[m] | `xprop | grep WM_CLASS` reveals the Global Actions Manager GUI to be `lxqt-config-globalkeyshortcuts`, and that works. : D | 20:06 |
| krotera[m] | But sadly no errors print out when it's not accepting `Meta + E`. xD | 20:07 |
| krotera[m] | * `xprop | grep WM_CLASS` and clicking the Global Actions Manager GUI reveals its command to be `lxqt-config-globalkeyshortcuts`, and that works. : D | 20:07 |
| krotera[m] | * `xprop | grep WM_CLASS` and clicking the Global Actions Manager GUI reveals its command to be `lxqt-config-globalkeyshortcuts`, and launching it that way works. : D | 20:08 |
| wxl | you may want to try to run the actual daemon: /usr/bin/lxqt-globalkeysd | 20:08 |
| wxl | (which means you'll have to kill it first) | 20:08 |
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| wxl | clearly not | 20:12 |
| krotera[m] | I only know how to interface with daemons via `systemctl`. D: | 20:12 |
| wxl | um | 20:13 |
| wxl | killall globalkeysd && globalkeysd | 20:14 |
| * krotera[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/ymzAGxSJiUSdkWcYlgAOxnGz/message.txt > | 20:14 | |
| wxl | kill $(pgrep globalkeysd) | 20:15 |
| wxl | and if that still produces nothing, it's not running and that may well be your problem right there. you can further confirm with e.g. `ps aux | grep globalkeysd` | 20:15 |
| krotera[m] | `$(pgrep globalkeysd)` produces nothing, but `ps aux` did reveal `/usr/bin/lxqt-globalkeysd` running with a PID which I killed. | 20:18 |
| krotera[m] | There's also a `--color=auto globalkeysd` running which rotates its PID on every `ps aux` command. xD | 20:18 |
| * krotera[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/RjyQoKkPOiSbxWVEhtJDsSAz/message.txt > | 20:18 | |
| krotera[m] | * `$(pgrep globalkeysd)` produces nothing, but `ps aux` did reveal `/usr/bin/lxqt-globalkeysd` running with a PID which I killed. | 20:19 |
| krotera[m] | There's also a `--color=auto globalkeysd` running which changes its PID on every `ps aux` command. xD | 20:19 |
| wxl | UGH i meant lxqt-globalkeysd | 20:19 |
| * krotera[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/iOIOhsRxxBFpTBiOEYNztPys/message.txt > | 20:20 | |
| krotera[m] | : D | 20:20 |
| krotera[m] | I guess the daemon's restarted, but the Global Actions Manager has the same problem. Still accepts everything else except for `Meta + E`. | 20:20 |
| wxl | can't reproduce so | 20:21 |
| wxl | of course you have dolphin so what other quirks does your system have relative to stock lubuntu? | 20:21 |
| krotera[m] | A few, I guess. :v I have many things installed, like Dropbox, Chrome, yakuake, etc. Modified my `~/.bashrc`. That's a hard question to answer comprehensively. | 20:25 |
| wxl | well, something there must be causing the conflict | 20:26 |
| krotera[m] | I also replaced `xscreensaver` with `xautolock` since `xscreensaver` was locking all except for one of my monitors. 😂 | 20:26 |
| wxl | oh i'd file a bug against that. as a general rule, `xscreensaver` is the one and only solution for locking that actually works | 20:27 |
| wxl | which is why we are pretty adamant about not using anything else | 20:27 |
| krotera[m] | Apparently not. :v | 20:27 |
| wxl | you miss my point | 20:27 |
| wxl | there have been a ton of security bugs against other lockers | 20:28 |
| * krotera[m] uploaded an image: locker.png (1708KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/tXnPAewSlidZaiHGYYiPocNs/locker.png > | 20:31 | |
| krotera[m] | There's a picture I took of it. xD | 20:31 |
| wxl | like i said, file a bug | 20:31 |
| krotera[m] | I filed a bug on Launchpad, but they told me to file it upstream. Do I do that https://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/bugs.html ? | 20:32 |
| wxl | where's this launchpad bug? | 20:32 |
| krotera[m] | Well, it's private since it's security-related. | 20:33 |
| wxl | and? | 20:33 |
| wxl | 1. share the url and no one without privledges will be able to see it | 20:33 |
| krotera[m] | * Well, it's private since it's security-related. | 20:33 |
| krotera[m] | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xscreensaver/+bug/1916003 | 20:33 |
| ubottu | Error: launchpad bug 1916003 not found | 20:33 |
| wxl | 2. is there even any info on there that should be private? | 20:34 |
| wxl | yeah that bug doesn't even exist | 20:34 |
| wxl | guiverc: ^ didn't you see something like this with e.g. bug 1814490 ? | 20:36 |
| ubottu | bug 1814490 in xscreensaver (Ubuntu) "lubuntu 19.04/19.10 xscreensaver runs on single display, other display continues normally" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1814490 | 20:36 |
| wxl | anyways, yep, that's upstream | 20:36 |
| * krotera[m] uploaded an image: image.png (75KiB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/r0/download/matrix.org/JyDKeEtdZabKQDdqTJdJlpgd/image.png > | 20:36 | |
| krotera[m] | <wxl "yeah that bug doesn't even exist"> Same URL I posted : o | 20:36 |
| wxl | very strange. i should have access to all of the private bugs but oh well | 20:37 |
| wxl | if it's not already resolved (5.45 is out upstream), then reporting it upstream would be the way to go | 20:38 |
| wxl | there were a bunch of bug fixes in 5.44 and 5.45 | 20:39 |
| krotera[m] | Cool. ¦ p | 20:40 |
| krotera[m] | LXQt feels a little rough around the edges. It's incredibly smooth, graphically, though. 🤩 On no other DE do windows drag around as smoothly as they do on Windows (and you drag them a lot since ostensibly Openbox doesn't support window snapping/tiling). | 20:42 |
| wxl | xscreensaver has nothing to do with LXQt | 20:43 |
| wxl | and your problem with Meta-E is yours alone | 20:43 |
| wxl | but if you've got some other reason to say that… | 20:43 |
| wxl | (also Openbox has nothing to do with LXQt, either) | 20:43 |
| krotera[m] | That's true. xD I guess I should say Lubuntu, as a whole. | 20:44 |
| wxl | well you can always contribute and help make it better | 20:44 |
| krotera[m] | I would like that, but I probably need to be a little smarter first. : p | 20:47 |
| krotera[m] | Anyway, I appreciate the help. | 20:47 |
| wxl | i think you're selling yourself a little short | 20:47 |
| wxl | there's ALWAYS places people can help | 20:47 |
| guiverc | wxl, sorry didn't see the bug you mentioned, but 1814490 occurs when screens are positioned relative to one another in specific locations (with attached.clicked). I expect that'll go with 0.16 (I don't look for it anymore, just slightly alter screen positions when it occurs) | 21:51 |
| wxl | guiverc: well tl;dr the issue was xscreensaver not locking on all screens | 21:53 |
| wxl | not sure about positioning and the person made a private bug report and promptly ran away sooooooo | 21:54 |
| guiverc | sorry I'm very distracted.. yep that occurs and I hope it'll be gone with 0.16, but I'm convinced it occurs with screens relatively positioned to one another.. I've got ~4 like bugs that all occur together (the screensaver can occur on it's own.. so it's a little different, but change screen position & it stops occurring too) | 21:55 |
| wxl | i wonder if it's something that occurs on other destop environments | 21:56 |
| guiverc | not that I've experienced.. it occurs on multiple boxes for me (most folks don't have one screen above another; but I've six screens on desk (2 high x 3) & use 2x per box so vertical seemed easier | 22:07 |
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