 @papasfilms [By Wind hellas], Lol worst company ever. I have installed ut on a oneplus3 but havent checked the Sim signal etc. and I have Vodafone.
 I think flashing ut is easier than flashing lineage really
 If you need any help send me a msg, I'm Greek too
 @saligari [If you need any help send me a msg, I'm Greek too], feel free to join the @welcomeplus room to help too :3
 we're currently trying to help someone flash his tablet
 [Edit] we're currently trying to help someone flash his tablet over there
[04:38] <ubptgbot> Ryan Nicholl was added by: Ryan Nicholl
[04:40] <ubptgbot> <Ryan Nicholl> Hello. Has anyone attempted to install Ubuntu on an Walmart Onn Pro 8" Tablet? It's a $90 tablet and I thought it'd be decent to experiment with, with high availability so I bought a few. I have one I don't mind bricking.
 @Ryan Nicholl [Hello. Has anyone attempted to install Ubuntu on an Walmart Onn Pro 8" Tablet? I …], hi, have you seen our devices page at devices.ubuntu-touch.io? it is all explained there
[04:48] <ubptgbot> <Ryan Nicholl> It's not listed...
[04:48] <ubptgbot> <Ryan Nicholl> Does nobody reverse engineer the blobs?
 i believe there's an explaination concerning devices not listed.......
 but no, reverse engineering the blobs is a multi  year high investment low return project on its own
 (Photo, 419x414) https://irc.ubports.com/xkDQrAEJ.png your best bet is that link over there
 @Ryan Nicholl [Hello. Has anyone attempted to install Ubuntu on an Walmart Onn Pro 8" Tablet? I …], To the best of my knowledge no one has attempted porting to that device yet. Info on how you can port yourself is at http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html … and … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html …
[04:51] <ubptgbot>  Also http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/halium_9/Halium_9_GSI_porting.html
 well, it's android 10, so will have to wait for halium 10 i guess
 assuming kernel and stuff are available
[05:34] <ubptgbot> MoeDisk was added by: MoeDisk
 @klaartje_b [Excuse me as I do the happy dance.], Be sure to log it :-)
 @saligari [If you need any help send me a msg, I'm Greek too], Thanks!
[07:14] <ubptgbot> Something Else was added by: Something Else
[07:14] <ubptgbot> <Something Else> hi, is there any way to donate with paysafe cards?
[07:42] <ubptgbot> KingAdeda was added by: KingAdeda
[07:49] <ubptgbot> <Ryan Nicholl> is there any tablet I can buy that is compatible with ubuntu?
[07:49] <ubptgbot> <Ryan Nicholl> I cannot seem to buy the ones listed
 @Ryan Nicholl [is there any tablet I can buy that is compatible with ubuntu?], With Ubuntu or Ubuntu Touch? Plenty with Ubuntu, only the listed for Ubuntu Touch. Ask me in off topic if you're interested in which ones will run straight Ubuntu, or Ubuntu with Unity 7
 @Ryan Nicholl [is there any tablet I can buy that is compatible with ubuntu?], [Edit] With Ubuntu or Ubuntu Touch? Plenty with Ubuntu, only the listed for Ubuntu Touch. Ask me in off topic (overflow) if you're interested in which ones will run straight Ubuntu, or Ubuntu with Unity 7
 @YougoChats [Be sure to log it :-)], I've posted all that I know on the UT forum for others to find! And right now it just started getting Telegram / Teleports notifications too. I may be getting tired of that soon but for now it's super nice. 🤩
 @klaartje_b [I've posted all that I know on the UT forum for others to find! And right now it …], Once you've had enough, you can change the notification settings per chat.
 @imraniqbal [Once you've had enough, you can change the notification settings per chat.], On Teleports, I assume. That sounds like a plan.
 (Photo, 1080x767) https://irc.ubports.com/WONxXzvn.png
 😘👍
 @klaartje_b [On Teleports, I assume. That sounds like a plan.], ^ You can hit the the chat name and then change the notifications for the chat.  But you can do this from any connected Telegram client.  Personally, I do it all from Telegram Desktop.
 Oh that's even better. Found it, thank you!
[10:09] <ubptgbot> urotuleloMh was added by: urotuleloMh
[10:14] <ubptgbot> Christian6447 was added by: Christian6447
 Is it possible to unlock your UT device using your fingerprint?
 @papasfilms [Is it possible to unlock your UT device using your fingerprint?], yes
 @thisisthethirdshoukosaccount [yes], Thanks!
 Usually yes, so long as the device has a fingerprint reader and that functionality has been implemented.
 I can see on the website that it is
 so it "should" work
 that
 That's the magic word: should
[10:26] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> hi all, how to install kernel source for 4.4.156-danctnix+, need this to install anbox arm64
 (Photo, 280x590) https://irc.ubports.com/7ZNepQAU.png
 Lavender?
[11:19] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> yes
 lavender kernel should already support Anbox
 you just need to install images manually
[11:37] <ubptgbot> DonBock78 was added by: DonBock78
[11:50] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> @NotKit [lavender kernel should already support Anbox], ok but when i install from official ubports documentation i get message that anbox for arm64 is not availeable yet
[11:50] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/anbox.html#how-to-install
[11:56] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> @NotKit [lavender kernel should already support Anbox], could you send link to install images?
 (Sticker, 423x512) https://irc.ubports.com/9ps0HqAG.webp
 @Dolinta Cristian [could you send link to install images?], see https://gist.github.com/Vince1171/69cdcb2e90f2c70e3ee24de93da8caac
[11:58] <ubptgbot> <Dolinta Cristian> thanks
 @amyosx [<reply to media>], This is my new pog emote btw
 @amyosx [This is my new pog emote btw], It made me feel super validated just now. 🙏
[12:12] <ubptgbot> Danny was added by: Danny
 Hi guys, can I install Ubuntu touch on Oppo A12?
 Hi. No, we do not have support for Oppo devices other than OnePlus
 @NotKit [Hi. No, we do not have support for Oppo devices other than OnePlus], Ok. Thanks for the quick reply. Cheers!
 Attn developers: do you know how GREAT of an OS you have had a hand in producing? Seriously it is quite a feat. My N5 is faster than my 2 year old Moro G6. Love using UT! pPlus with a lot of people dropping WhatsApp I miss less and less from android all the time :—)
 I'm waiting for GPS and Whatsapp support so i can switch
 Also idk if my games would also make the jump
 [Edit] Also idk if my games would be able to also make the jump
 @Cerealesgratis [I'm waiting for GPS and Whatsapp support so i can switch], gps is there
 Does it work with gps localizers?
 My family needs to know where I am when outside
[13:45] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @Cerealesgratis [I'm waiting for GPS and Whatsapp support so i can switch], isnt there anbox
 @Cerealesgratis [I'm waiting for GPS and Whatsapp support so i can switch], for WhatApp support please contact Whatsapp :3
 @Cerealesgratis [Does it work with gps localizers?], what do you mean "gps localizers"?
[13:51] <ubptgbot> <Steve Kueffer> @Cerealesgratis [My family needs to know where I am when outside], In PureMaps you can indeed share your position.
 @TotalSonic [Is there a folder these are imported into which I can manually delete them from?], The workaround is to add one more new image, then select for deleting, it only works when a new image has just been added
 I have a branch. Where I am redesigning that page, only one bug left to fix(but not a regression)
 I do need help on it, haven't been able to figure it out
[14:02] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> I personally don't feel a need of whatsapp
[14:03] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> it's not that hard to switch to matrix or signal, or whatever non-datamining service
 i don't either, but my family does
[14:03] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @Cerealesgratis [i don't either, but my family does], can you get them to switch? let me go find a flyer
 @Fuseteam [what do you mean "gps localizers"?], life360 for example
 switch to something else
 @Heng Ye [can you get them to switch? let me go find a flyer], nope, they won't
 already tried
 @UniversalSuperBox [I'm not sure, but I thought there was a problem with deleting them when you only …], havent been able to delete custom background images for a long time
 @Cerealesgratis [life360 for example], it won't work, unless someone develops a similar app
 @Cerealesgratis [life360 for example], [Edit] it won't work in principle, unless someone develops a similar app
 it was probably overlooked in testing because it does work momentarily if you add a image first
 @Cerealesgratis maybe a solution is to carry another phone in backpack or somewhere that can do that and WhatsApp
 [Edit] @Cerealesgratis maybe a solution is to carry another phone in backpack or somewhere that can do that and WhatsApp to connect via web client
 https://github.com/ubports/system-settings/pull/208 @TotalSonic
 @NotKit [@Cerealesgratis maybe a solution is to carry another phone in backpack or somewh …], That's a solution
[14:07] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @NotKit [@Cerealesgratis maybe a solution is to carry another phone in backpack or somewh …], hrmmm does that mean can setup a VPS running android and connect web client...
 @Heng Ye [isnt there anbox], does it run apk games?
 Hi folks, are the 64bit versions of ubsync and wake-it in progress?
 yes, but he also wants GPS tracker thing
 Also I have to check if my phone is even compatible
[14:07] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @Cerealesgratis [does it run apk games?], depends what you mean by games. There are many different games. Chess will probably work
 @Cerealesgratis [does it run apk games?], no graphics acceleration yet
[14:08] <ubptgbot> <Heng Ye> @mateosalta [no graphics acceleration yet], chess will work i think
 I see
 ultimate 3d chess ;0 ?
 @wayneTBT [Hi folks, are the 64bit versions of ubsync and wake-it in progress?], ubsync is a bit diffy, the dev has been struggle with getting it ported to arm64 for a while now
 as for wake-it looks up the repo
[14:12] <ubptgbot> KMSaidy was added by: KMSaidy
 hmmm github we so need to get a github action thingie going 🤔
 @mateosalta how difficult would it be to get a arm64 version of wake-it?
 oh, I would have to look at it
 [Edit] @mateosalta how difficult would it be to get a arm64 version of wake-it going?
 that was a cool app made by nathan osman
 it is indeed xD
 @Fuseteam [ubsync is a bit diffy, the dev has been struggle with getting it ported to arm64 …], Oh, thats a pity
 I took over maintenance since I don't think he is on ubuntu touch anymore
 @wayneTBT [Oh, thats a pity], iirc there were some hardcoded shenanigans going on
 @Fuseteam [ubsync is a bit diffy, the dev has been struggle with getting it ported to arm64 …], [Edit] Oh, thats a pity. Its a super useful app (in my world at least)
 @Fuseteam I forwarded your message to my saved messages will take a look on one of my nights off ;)
 thanks o7
 Ok, thanks for the update folks
 welcome to the community @KMSaidy
 hey today i installed ubuntu tuch on my redmi note 7 pro,and i am sending the message from ubuntu touch,but i am facing a huge problem with the font,i cant see the 'Bangla' font in any where on the device
 bangla as in the language?
 @Fuseteam [welcome to the community @KMSaidy], thanks 😍
 @Fuseteam [bangla as in the language?], no
 what do you mean with a 'bangla' font?
 hm, sometimes font problems can be fixed with ubuntu instructions https://shunnobindu.wordpress.com/2016/11/25/fix-bangla-font-problem-in-ubuntu/
 but you would have to mount the system r/w
 i mean if text are unreadable that sounds like a issue
 @Fuseteam [what do you mean with a 'bangla' font?], bangla is a language,i mean bangla is not listed on ubuntu touch language list
 @Fuseteam [i mean if text are unreadable that sounds like a issue], yes
 thats the problem
 @mateosalta [hm, sometimes font problems can be fixed with ubuntu instructions https://shunno …], thanks,i am going to cheak it
 Apparently redmi note 8 pro is not compatible
 you might only be able to get it displayed? someone would have to create a keyboard, system translation, ect
 sorry for the bad English
 ah right that's an issue yes, but uh this is somewhat 2-3 fold, are you looking to get the os to display everything in bangla or are you just looking to make bangla text readable, or are you looking to type bangla text?
 or all three of 'em
 @KMSaidy [sorry for the bad English], this might be easier https://askubuntu.com/questions/858178/how-to-install-bangla-font-in-ubuntu-16-04
 @mateosalta [this might be easier https://askubuntu.com/questions/858178/how-to-install-bangl …], hmm looks like making it readable might be easiest of the bunch hehe
 but on the phone:
 @mateosalta [this might be easier https://askubuntu.com/questions/858178/how-to-install-bangl …], [Edit] hmm looks like making it readable might be easiest of the bunch to fix hehe
 @mateosalta [but on the phone:], i mean that would mean ut has to ship it no?
 @mateosalta [but on the phone:], [Edit] i mean that would mean ut just has to ship it no?
 @Fuseteam [ah right that's an issue yes, but uh this is somewhat 2-3 fold, are you looking …], i want both.read and write  … but at first i need to display bangla text on browser,telegram messages
 sudo mount -o remount,rw /
 sudo apt update
 sudo apt install fonts-beng
 in the terminal app
 @mateosalta [this might be easier https://askubuntu.com/questions/858178/how-to-install-bangl …], should i follow this?
 those three commands i put up there ^^
 ok
 thanks thanks
 follow the commands mateo gave for now: … ```sudo mount -o remount,rw / … sudo apt update … sudo apt install fonts-beng```
 for brevity :P
 [Edit] follow the commands mateo gave for now: … ```sudo mount -o remount,rw / … sudo apt update … sudo apt install fonts-beng … sudo``` `mount -o remount,ro /`
 ok i will tell you the result
 [Edit] follow the commands mateo gave for now: … ```sudo mount -o remount,rw / … sudo apt update … sudo apt install fonts-beng … ````sudo mount -o remount,ro /`
 sudo apt install fonts-beng
 er clipboard
 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-keyboard/+bug/1500627
 oh, looks like we need to do some google research on these two old apps?
 wonder if anyone kept an old archive of the old apps
 oh my 🤔
 was probally a app where you type, and then copy the output?
 this makes me very curious 🤔
 i think we may have to contact anupam 🤔
 I will send a email from launchpad, but a post from 2016...
 well, long shot
 hmmm yeah
 nothing to lose i suppose
 their last activity seems to be somewhere in 2020 so yeah worth a shot
 cool, sent.
 hey boss!thanks a lot
 now i can see bangla text
 nice
 Dhonnbad vai(bangla)= thanks bro(english)
 now what to do for bangla keyboard leyout?
 that would be harder
 in desktop usually i use avro phonetic on ibus
 @mateosalta [that would be harder], 😑
 can i do that in ubuntu touch
 ?
 yeah so that will be harder, we'll need first know how typing bangla works than we create a keyboard layout for it
 ibus is more for a physical keyboard
 oh, it that made in qt?
 hm, this could be intresting
 hmmmm
 #notes
 https://github.com/OpenBangla/OpenBangla-Keyboard
 depending on the phone this might work in libertine?
 or long shot it might compile since it is qt,
 @KMSaidy can you do two things for me? … - create an issue on github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch that bangla text is not readable … - create an issue on github.com/ubports/keyboard-component that we are missing a bangla keyboard layout
 @Fuseteam [yeah so that will be harder, we'll need first know how typing bangla works than …], in android i use Ridmik keyboard. … bangla has different type of keyboard leyout
 yes we will need to create that layout
 @Fuseteam [@KMSaidy can you do two things for me? … - create an issue on github.com/ubports/u …], https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1617
 @UniversalSuperBox [https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1617], oh hey its an open issue 👀
 @UniversalSuperBox [https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1617], ok brother
 @UniversalSuperBox [https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/1617], looks like we 'just' need an extra package @UniversalSuperBox
 at least for display
 yeh
 i agree
 it so easy think to do
 but the keyboard is fact
 its the easiest of the bunch, keyboard will take a bit more time
 should i open for keyboard?
 yes please do
 ok
 hey morp browser is not opening
 eh?
 its only loading
 yeah
 but i used it some time ago
 maybe close it and open it again?
 just found out the name of our keybaord " Maliit" means small in Filipino
 yay, search results
 yay lol
 wikipedia once had the word on this page at one time
 (Photo, 625x130) https://irc.ubports.com/TpWgSbnB.png
 so with our keyboard— i really should look into how bangla input works 🤔
 cant find it on the current page though...
 oh hey 👀
 .....so with our keyboard we use a maliit plug in it is fairly easy to add an additional layout, the iss— i mean the question with bangali is does it work differently than our existing methods?
 (Photo, 309x670) https://irc.ubports.com/01WYbKAB.png kinda hard to tell :x
 are they just combining characters?
 @KMSaidy is this the keyboard you usually use?
 @mateosalta [are they just combining characters?], it might be yeah 🤔
 might just be able to lay them out in a keyboard, or substitute them in the proper spots
 quick and not so good way - take the emoji keyboard, and just type in all the charecters in the character list
 i think the japanese method may have the needed logic but the actual data might need to be added 🤔
 i'm not sure indic languages work like that
 .....i'm just trying this ridmik keyboard it seems to be a bit more uh nuanced than just combining characters
 ah
 @Fuseteam [i'm not sure indic languages work like that], but we got no complains about Hindi?
 @NotKit [but we got no complains about Hindi?], we just did, toda— wait hindi? do we have hindi support?
 (somehow when I think of India I associate it with "VoLTE" rather than input methods)
 👀
[15:14] <ubptgbot> nologo was added by: nologo
 hey borthers i'm little bit busy now,i will contact later
 so sorry
 cool
 no worries
 hey
 i am there
 @mateosalta [https://github.com/OpenBangla/OpenBangla-Keyboard], should i try this?
 @KMSaidy [should i try this?], long shot
 @Fuseteam [<reply to media>], quick question @KMSaidy is this the keyboard you use on android?
 which phone is this, does libertine work with it?
 @Fuseteam [quick question @KMSaidy is this the keyboard you use on android?], i use ridmik app.and layout is avro whichone is showing in this.... … but not everyone use the avro.there are many more ,like prothabi,jatiyo,iunijoy etc
 @KMSaidy [i use ridmik app.and layout is avro whichone is showing in this.... … but not ever …], that is ridmik that's why i'm asking
 oh wait so the layout in that picture is called avro
 [Edit] oh wait so the layout in that picture is called avro?
 @KMSaidy [i use ridmik app.and layout is avro whichone is showing in this.... … but not ever …], oh wait so the layout in that picture is called avro?
 @KMSaidy [i use ridmik app.and layout is avro whichone is showing in this.... … but not ever …], [Edit] oh wait so the layout in that picture is called "avro"?
 yes
 i now notice ridmik has 3 layouts, is the second layout more popular?
 @mateosalta [which phone is this, does libertine work with it?], Redmi Note 7 Pro (violet). Whether it works probably depends on if he uses Erfan's GSI zip or @mardytardi's port
 its "avro".and its not an official layout bcz it use english font to type bangla,just like you type “A” - it will show you the bangla alphabet that is close to ”A” by the pronunciation. but its huge popular.may bee most populer in mobile devices.but "unijoy" ja
 @mateosalta [just found out the name of our keybaord " Maliit" means small in Filipino], it is so it feels a little weird for me whenever I read it 😄
 and there's no Filipino keyboard or language :( … which actually make sense because we always use English anyway 😅
 @KMSaidy [its "avro".and its not an official layout bcz it use english font to type bangla …], oh cool. which one is better for mobile?
 @NotKit [Redmi Note 7 Pro (violet). Whether it works probably depends on if he uses Erfan …], i used Mardytardi's
 @Javacookies [it is so it feels a little weird for me whenever I read it 😄], 😁
 @Fuseteam [oh cool. which one is better for mobile?], 1) avro … 2)provat … 3)jatio
 if you ask for official layout ist provat or jatio
 could probally put the font characters in  the hold box
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/ngprGd38.png
 I installed an alternative media viewer (so I can watch the video I record) - can I make this the default player so I can launch it from the camera app?
 @mateosalta [could probally put the font characters in  the hold box], sorry i dont get what you say
 are you saying about avro layout?
 @KMSaidy [1) avro … 2)provat … 3)jatio], thanks can you add these details to the issue you open on github.com/ubports/keyboard-component?
 @mateosalta [could probally put the font characters in  the hold box], i don't think that will work out sadly
 im thinking on how to make the keyboard
 the language is really different, i think its what we call an abjad 🤔
 [Edit] the language is really different, i think its what we call an abjad or abugida not sure 🤔
 [Edit] the language is really different, i think its what we call an abjad or abugida not sure which 🤔
 @mateosalta [im thinking on how to make the keyboard], oh you should make it with avro
 @Paul [I installed an alternative media viewer (so I can watch the video I record) - ca …], no, there's no way to specify default apps for different content on lomiri
 @KMSaidy [oh you should make it with avro], and as a desktop app  avro is open source .....
 can i help you in any way?
 ah found it its an abugida where the next character you type modifies the previous on hmmm that's not unlike korean and thai now i think about it 🤔
 @KMSaidy [can i help you in any way?], sure if you want you could help with making the keyboard layout
 tho it is slight more difficult than a regular layout
 [Edit] tho it is slightly more difficult than a regular layout but it should be doable
 i would ask you to compare it with thai but uh that's probably not so easy
 @Fuseteam [sure if you want you could help with making the keyboard layout], i will be glad
 the difficulty with it is familiarity with the language and languages and work like it
 @Fuseteam [tho it is slightly more difficult than a regular layout but it should be doable], yes
 first thing is first, have managed to open an issue about it?
 [Edit] first things first, have managed to open an issue about it?
 @Fuseteam [the difficulty with it is familiarity with the language and languages and work l …], you can contact me on my inbox
 @Fuseteam [first things first, have managed to open an issue about it?], still no
 do you mean via personal message?
 not
 @KMSaidy [still no], send me a personal message when you find the chance to do that
 @Fuseteam [do you mean via personal message?], yeah
 @KMSaidy [yeah], ok 👍
 ok
 @dohbee [no, there's no way to specify default apps for different content on lomiri], Is it worth me trying to rename the app?
 @Fuseteam [send me a personal message when you find the chance to do that], How?
 @KMSaidy [How?], uh lemme do it the other way around then
 you can message me any time
 even now
 i just did
 @Paul [Is it worth me trying to rename the app?], no.
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/Df0ZOgZ9.png
 whats wrong
 yeah google doesn't like third parties any more
 eh? that's the web browser 😔
 @dohbee [yeah google doesn't like third parties any more], What the F*
 yeah....
 @Fuseteam [eh? that's the web browser 😔], Now the way to get gamil?
 what channel are you on btw?
 gamil?
 gmail
 yeah
 and my 'contacts' also
 uh not if google sign in is not working
 [Edit] uh not if google sign in is not working sadly
 is there any browser that can?
 on ut? not currently no
 here's the issue in question https://github.com/ubports/account-plugins/issues/40
 @Fuseteam [on ut? not currently no], shit!
 btw what channel are you on? stable/rc/devel?
 no idea why it's failing in the browser for you though
 yeah that got me curious too
 last i checked it didn't fail in the browser
 but i'm usually on devel
[19:06] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @KMSaidy [<reply to media>], Ut dont like google ;)
 @Ted Rendol [Ut dont like google ;)], no no no no tis the opposite, google dont like ut
 @Ted Rendol [Ut dont like google ;)], [Edit] no no no no tis the opposite, google dont like ut :p
[19:08] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @Fuseteam [no no no no tis the opposite, google dont like ut :p], i think so :)
 the secret operating system google hates
 [Edit] __the os google doesn't want you to use__
 [Edit] the os google doesn't want you to use
 i don't think google cares about UT
 or even knows about it
 😂 fair enough
 i doubt there is some conspiracy. so please don't perpetuate any such nonsense in that direction
 it is too proprietary, so we can't predict its behaviour
 that's a good one 😂
 They're Google... they know everything 👀
 i mean i do doubt they care about UT
 we're too small for them to care anyway :P
 Using upstream 5.15 webengine would maybe helped. Google didn't like old chromium I think
 the account plugin issue or the browser issue shown above?
[19:17] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @dohbee [i don't think google cares about UT], Google trying to protect its property from mobile systems it  not control.  … they follow the development of UT more than us. ha ha
 i am able to log into google on the latest devel, it might be that mardytardi's port uses an older version of morph
 I think that google is trying predict safety based on useragent string - (account plugin) and browser features and behaviour
 @Ted Rendol [Google trying to protect its property from mobile systems it  not control.  … they …], i was joking earlier btw, we aren't big enough for google to care about what we do
 @Danqok [I think that google is trying predict safety based on useragent string - (accoun …], yes its blocking everything that is not a browser
 we need updated webengine and faking some common useragent
 interestingly enough i managed add a google account with the online accounts plugin that ships with unity 7
 @Danqok [we need updated webengine and faking some common useragent], that will likely not help
[19:19] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @Fuseteam [i am able to log into google on the latest devel, it might be that mardytardi's …], Me to can login , i gree
 @Fuseteam [that will likely not help], then nothing would 😩
 @Danqok [then nothing would 😩], that's the issue we are facing :p
 I am worried too
 [Edit] I am worried too 😀
 @Fuseteam [here's the issue in question https://github.com/ubports/account-plugins/issues/4 …], this issue kinda does give us a bit more insight
 this comment in particular: https://github.com/ubports/account-plugins/issues/40#issuecomment-613547348
 i think it's not so simple
[19:34] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @Fuseteam [i was joking earlier btw, we aren't big enough for google to care about what we …], Yes but i think at a certain stage of development, they will buy one of the mobile Linux distributions. Just like Microsoft became friends with Linux Suse.
[19:34] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> Hello, I installed Ubuntu Touch onto an unlocked Nexus 5 with the windows software but after installation it is stuck on the google screen. any help would be appreciated
 Hello and welcome! Sorry, what is 'the Google screen'?
[19:37] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> its just a black screen that says google when it rebooted after install
 Is it the phone's start screen?
 @Ted Rendol [Yes but i think at a certain stage of development, they will buy one of the mobi …], microsoft what now?
 @klaartje_b [Is it the phone's start screen?], yes the bootloader screen
 @Commander Revan [its just a black screen that says google when it rebooted after install], nexus 5 does this sometimes. hold power button to force reboot and it should clear up
 @Commander Revan [Hello, I installed Ubuntu Touch onto an unlocked Nexus 5 with the windows softwa …], that sounds like the installed failed
 @dohbee [nexus 5 does this sometimes. hold power button to force reboot and it should cle …], ohw nvm
[19:40] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> I re installed twice. guess 3rd really is the charm
[19:41] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> thank you]
 @Commander Revan [I re installed twice. guess 3rd really is the charm], don't reinstall just reboot
 @Commander Revan [I re installed twice. guess 3rd really is the charm], [Edit] don't reinstall just force reboot
[19:41] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> i tried that it was still stuck .its all good tho
 @dohbee [i think it's not so simple], nothing ventured nothing gained i guess, if their goal is to secure against man-in-the-middle attacks then who knows maybe it more simple than we'd expect
 @Commander Revan [i tried that it was still stuck .its all good tho], could you get ahold of the logs?
 if anything google ever did was simple, we wouldn't be having such problems in the first place
 well uh true i suppose but considering morph isn't considered "insecure" on the latest devel it does makes on wonder how they are differentiating between the two
 there is also the observation that online accounts does appear to work on ubuntu desktop but not on ut
 but that observation would need to be verified if its even relevant
[19:48] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @Fuseteam [microsoft what now?], mean 2006 collaboration with novell
 ......that's about 14 ye— uh 15 years ago
 so that sounds like the time before they embraced open source
 anyway that's off topic
 Hi folks, is there any real benefit to running the 64bit version of UT on my Xperia X, especially as there are a few key apps (at least key to me) that I use that arent available on the 64bit install.  If I run the UBPorts installer and select the 32bit verision, will all my apps and settings remain on the device?
 you'd need to reinstall all the apps of course, because 64-bit apps can't run on 32-bit
 i think 64-bit might perform a bit better though? not sure
 ok, I see. But the config and settings, would they remain?
 if you don't wipe data, i guess so
 you can back up first, too
 I see, thanks for your thoughts.  Ah ok, is there a forum post that shows the backup procedure?
 there was one, but i don't have the link
 Ok thanks, I'll have a dig around.
 wake it should be available soon-ish given the maintainer's update record so far
 [Edit] wake it should be available soon-ish given the maintainer's update record so far fwiw
 Ok, thanks for the heads up on that.
 ubsync shouldn't be that hard to get working either
 I appreciate all you efforts and I dont mean to come across as one of those types that wahts this and that.
 [Edit] I appreciate all you efforts and I dont mean to come across as one of those types that wants this and that.
 we know, just providing what we can in info
 [Edit] we know, just providing what we can in info :3
 [Edit] I appreciate all your efforts and I dont mean to come across as one of those types that wants this and that.
 I appreciate that too.
 @dohbee [no.], Cheers!
 @wayneTBT [I appreciate that too.], guess i meant to so we appreaciate your feedback ;)
 Well, I am definitely one of those types who wants this and that, and I'm super happy with UT... because it already does a whole lot of this and that and it is getting better all the time. ❤️ … So there!
 well put 😂😂😂
 speaking of which
 i'm not far behind xD
 (Photo, 720x1280) https://irc.ubports.com/2WvVRQ9R.png
 What is that keyboard?..
 I was going to impress all y'all with a picture of messages in this group shown on my Pebble... but then I have an OpO and the camera would not focus and the picture came out like crap. 😂
 no such bots here Shaheda
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[23:57] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> any support on wearable smartwatches?
 asteriod os has a app, there is rockwork for the old pebble stuff