[02:33] Ignoring driver quality isn't there a pretty significant limit to how far you can push latency with ALSA [04:50] wonko: I can run my delta66 at 16/2 with alsa, snd-ice1712 module. I have had it do so with almost no xruns. The alsa infrastructure is able to deal with very low latencies, so I would suggest that the snd-fireworks module quality is what limits latency, not alsa [12:25] Ah, ok. In that case it *would* be nice to see the fireworks module quality improve but it doesn't seem like anyone cares so FFADOv it is.