[02:13] <sinasaa> hi there, I'm trying to use the OpenStack Octavia charm (https://jaas.ai/octavia/32) to deploy Octavia to an existing juju managed cluster. Unfortunately, the cluster was deployed without any "network spaces" at all and so the deployment gets stuck at "octavia/0                             blocked      executing  0/lxd/9   172.16.68.198   9876/tcp                    'shared-db' incomplete, 'amqp'
[02:13] <sinasaa> incomplete, 'identity-service' missing, 'sdn-subordinate' missing, Awaiting leader to create required resources
[02:14] <sinasaa> which I think is like this bug report https://bugs.launchpad.net/charm-octavia/+bug/1820365 ...but I can't set the binding as `"": alpha` or `"": undefined` to make it work :(
[02:14] <mup> Bug #1820365: Charm holds in "waiting" state, "'shared-db' incomplete"  <bionic> <lbaasv2> <openstack> <rocky> <mysql-shared charm interface:Expired> <OpenStack Octavia Charm:Expired> <OpenStack API Layer:Expired> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1820365>
[02:15] <sinasaa> any tips on how I can deploy this charm in a model without any network spaces? ... jamespage any chance you've got any thoughts as I saw you commenting on that bug report?
[02:17] <sinasaa> when I run `juju export-bundle` normally I can't see any bindings, but if I add `"":undefined` as a binding for the Octavia charm then the bindings appear in `juju export-bundle` for other charms as `"": alpha` even though the subnets are technically not in any network space (e.g `juju subnets` shows undefined not alpha)
[09:36] <manadart> stickupkid, achilleasa_: Forward merge - https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12668
[10:32] <manadart> stickupkid, achilleasa_: Another small one - https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12669
[10:35] <manadart> Actually that needs a change to the sorting.
[10:41] <stickupkid> achilleasa_, updated my bundlechanges code
[10:44] <stickupkid> achilleasa_, nice, much better, I'll do that
[12:33] <stickupkid> achilleasa_, https://github.com/juju/juju/pull/12658
[16:15] <stickupkid> achilleasa_, updated 12658
[16:34] <achilleasa_> stickupkid: LGTM; still need to run the QA steps though
[16:34] <stickupkid> sure sure
[17:33] <juanoterocas> hi all, juju documentation shows Manual cloud as space supported, but instead i'm getting : cannot list spaces: spaces not supported (not supported)
[17:33] <juanoterocas> ERROR cannot list spaces: spaces not supported (not supported)
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