[00:01] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T197: Packages not in our packageset (that probably should be)] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T197#4337
[00:07] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> wxl: an interesting question, I've brought it up to the DMB.
[00:07] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> > "If we seed it, should we need to include it in the packageset, or can the packageset be independent of what's actually on the seed?"
[00:08] <tsimonq2> The packageset can be independent.
[00:08] <tsimonq2> Kubuntu is a good example of this.
[00:08] <wxl> if that's the case, i'm inclined to trim down to what we would normally expect to work with
[00:08] <tsimonq2> They mark a good amount of packages as supported in their seed but they're not actually included in the ISO. This lets Kubuntu Developers upload to KDE packages which may not be included by default but are supported.
[00:10] <wxl> hey @Leokolb @kgiii @guiverc when you have a chance (no rush at all) if you could let me know which, if any, flavors you can find that currently have in hirsute a functioning cancel to the fsck that runs on boot of the iso, i'd appreciate it. ubuntu should have it. just not sure about the others
[00:12] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> wait the simon is alive
[00:12] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> Simon: go review the packagesets
[00:12] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> *hisses and makes you do work*
[00:12] <tsimonq2> you're funny 
[00:13] <kgiii> I have pretty slow DSL. I'll do Ubuntu Mate.
[00:13] <guiverc> wxl, I think you'll likely get an answer first from @Leokolb;   I don't have time for testing others much (unless requested or to explore a specific issue whcih is often lubuntu related now)
[00:13]  * guiverc stands correct, thanks & sorry kgiii 
[00:13] <guiverc> s/correct/corrected
[00:13] <kgiii> I can do that one. I have DSL, so it's gonna be a minute.
[00:14] <kgiii> If nobody has done others by the time that one has downloaded, I'll grab another one.
[00:19] <kgiii> Mate will be downloaded in like 45 minutes...
[00:20] <kgiii> This is gonna take a bit.
[00:20] <guiverc> kgiii, are you using zsync?  (starting from another ISO is what I do)
[00:21] <kgiii> Nope. I'm downloading the complete ISO. I don't have a hirsute mate to start with and ain't risking it with the one I have for Lubuntu.
[00:21] <guiverc> i've been upgraded from DSL, but my speed is still DSL speed (on the cheapest plan which is DSL speed).  for ubuntu-mate I'd use ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu etc. if I had it
[00:21] <kgiii> I do not have an Ubuntu hirsute. I only have a Lubuntu hirsute.
[00:21] <guiverc> lubuntu hirsute, or a groovy ubuntu-mate/xubuntu is likely about equal, but still faster than all
[00:21] <kgiii> I do not test the other distros.
[00:22] <kgiii> Meh... It'll be 45 minutes. 
[00:22] <guiverc> ack & I know.. I often 'zsync' a couple of ISOs I have, and I'd expect starting about 33% for a lubuntu iso at worst
[00:22] <guiverc> lubuntu iso for downloading ubuntu-mate (which has a lot of drivers we don't including on our iso)
[00:22] <kgiii> Yeah, I'll just do 'em one by one. I ain't scared and he's not in a rush.
[00:23] <guiverc> yep & fair enough  (getting all is less work for you than the messing around..!!)
[00:23] <kgiii> I've got about 2 hours before I'm gone for the night. So, there's that. 
[00:24] <guiverc> :)  thanks for your time, effort & skill 
[00:24] <kgiii> All I gotta do is boot the iso and check if I can cancel it, right?
[00:24] <wxl> yes
[00:25] <wxl> try ctrl-c or s or whatever it says
[00:25] <kgiii> Alright. That's my kinda skill level.
[00:25] <kgiii> Does it have to work - or does it have to just say it?
[00:26] <wxl> it has to wor
[00:26] <wxl> k
[00:26] <wxl> ours doesn't
[00:26] <kgiii> Alright. It speeds by pretty rapidly. 
[00:26] <kgiii> It doesn't? I never actually thought to test that.
[00:27] <wxl> if you want the whole story, a bunch of flavors have asked for the solution to make it work and never really got an answer that i could see. maybe some of them figured it out. if so, i want to copy them
[00:27] <wxl> and if not, oh well
[00:27] <kgiii> Huh... No, it doesn't work. 
[00:27] <kgiii> I can't believe I never tested that.
[00:28] <guiverc> How far back wxl are you interested in?  recent?  hirsute only? etc
[00:29] <wxl> guiverc: only current
[00:29] <guiverc> ack
[00:29] <guiverc> I felt it is easier last few i've tried on BIOS boxes anyway  (where most my testing is)
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[00:30] <kgiii> If it helps, I'm pretty sure I've pressed the CTRL + C and had it skip the sequence before - but that might have been on 20.04.
[00:30] <wxl> yeah i had it work a long while bac
[00:33] <kgiii> I have started a Xubuntu download. So, I have Mate and Xubuntu. 
[00:40] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T198: Lubuntu Packageset: Audit and Identify packages to add/removed] teward (Thomas Ward) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T198#4339
[00:41] <kgiii> I don't participate on AskUbuntu all that much, but I just got the ability to cast close and open votes. So, there's that.
[00:44] <wxl> why?
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[00:47] <kgiii> Why what?
[00:50] <wxl> OH i thought you said you just LOST not GOT
[00:50] <wxl> kant reed
[00:50] <kgiii> I can relate.
[00:51] <kgiii> I read AU quite a bit. I just don't answer often, even if I know the answer. Someone'll answer 'em. I mostly look for the weird questions with strange fixes. I learn things in those questions and answers.
[00:58] <wxl> kgiii: out of curiousity, how long have you been helping us out? it seems like a while now!
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[01:01] <kgiii> I started answering questions on AU in like 2015. I didn't start testing until 21.04 started. I've been here, there, and on the various forums for years now. I just didn't really get all that involved until recently. In fact, I skipped some years on AU (boredom) and then resumed activity a while after the pandemic set in.
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[01:03] <wxl> jeez you're #3 tester
[01:03] <wxl> and behind chris and leo!
[01:03] <wxl> that's amazing stuff!!!!!
[01:04] <kgiii> I don't half-arse anything.
[01:04] <wxl> well for this cycle at least :)
[01:04] <kgiii> If I say I'm gonna do something, I do it. This is not always a good thing!
[01:06] <wxl> top 100 of all time includes several lubuntu folks: chris #6, leo #8, nio #13, lyn #16, simon #60
[01:07] <wxl> anywho you should start working on your lubuntu membership application; you're about due!
[01:08] <kgiii> Duly noted.
[01:19] <kgiii> Mint will be done soon. 
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[01:38] <kgiii> It works in Mate just fine.
[01:40] <kgiii> Works just fine in Xubuntu.
[01:40] <kgiii> Need more testing than that? @wxl
[01:47] <guiverc> thanks kgiii
[01:48] <kgiii> I have Kubuntu downloading now, but then I am going offline and presumably to bed. It's almost 21:00 here and I'm an old man.
[01:50] <kgiii> Meh... Given the time frame, I'll grab Budgie too. That won't slow it down too much. Both will take ~45 to 60 minutes and testing them only takes a second.
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[02:17] <wxl[m]> <kgiii "Need more testing than that? @wx"> That should do, thx!
[02:18] <kgiii> wxl: Sure, you tell me now that I have two more images downloading! (Glad I could help.)
[02:22] <wxl[m]> 😔 I wouldn't mind knowing about those, too!
[02:23] <kgiii> I'll let you know. I didn't cancel the downloads. Disk space is cheap.
[02:24] <kgiii> About an hour. So, if I go to bed I'll check it with my morning coffee - or at least sometime around lunch.
[02:26] <wxl[m]> Sounds good! 
[02:28] <kgiii> I'll ping you with the results in chat.
[02:44] <kc2bez[m]> Ok, I think I have all the packages in phab synced with the archive. If there are any I missed please let me know.
[02:52] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T197: Packages not in our packageset (that probably should be)] kc2bez (Dan Simmons) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T197#4343
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[03:00] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> kc2bez: painful wasn't it xD
[03:00] <kc2bez[m]> tedious 
[03:00] <kc2bez[m]> Not too bad though
[03:00] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> well at least you're synced up, and some of them won't supersede anymore by autosyncs
[03:01] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> might want to request autosync blacklists too if necessary on any of em
[03:01] <kc2bez[m]> Well, we had some rebuilding events recently.
[03:02] <kc2bez[m]> It is just a changelog typically but we shouldn't be missing it.
[03:06] <kc2bez[m]> I did miss one and i shut my VM down. nm-tray
[03:07] <kc2bez[m]> I will get it tomorrow.
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[03:11] <kgiii> wxl: Works in Kubuntu just fine.
[03:17] <kc2bez[m]> ci is another ball of wax, I haven't even looked at that. Thanks for taking care of that one ^ tsimonq2
[03:17] <tsimonq2> Scratching my own itch. Should solve qterminal's FTBFS.
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[03:21] <kgiii> wxl: Works just fine in Budgie.
[03:21] <kgiii> On that note, I'm out of chat and probably offline.
[03:21] <tsimonq2> qterminal failure expected, will retry after qtermwidget passes.
[03:23] <wxl[m]> <kgiii "On that note, I'm out of chat an"> Thanks for all the help. That will give me plenty of places to `grep` for answers…
[03:23] <tsimonq2> qtermwidget FTBFS on symbols.
[03:24] <wxl[m]> <tsimonq2 "qtermwidget FTBFS on symbols."> SIMON BROKE IT
[03:25] <tsimonq2> No, I just fixed the merger so we could see that it is broken. ;)
[03:25] <tsimonq2> also
[03:25] <tsimonq2> ABI BREAK
[03:25] <tsimonq2> ('cause that's technically what it is...)
[03:25] <kc2bez[m]> Indeed. 
[03:25] <wxl[m]> No one would have noticed if it weren't for you! 
[03:26] <kc2bez[m]> When I glanced earlier several of the merger jobs needed help. 
[03:26] <tsimonq2> That sounds about right. It's one of the first things I check with a new release of LXQt.
[03:27] <kc2bez[m]> It makes sense with all the changes. 
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[03:31] <wxl[m]> <tsimonq2 "That sounds about right. It's on"> We miss you 🥺
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[03:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> *looks at wxl questioningly*
[03:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> no but i don't disagree with the LXQt bits
[03:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> your expertise is much desired here.
[03:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> that said
[03:35] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> in all cases, for any given problem: it's still Simon's fault.
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[03:45] <tsimonq2> <wxl[m] "<tsimonq2 "That sounds about rig"> <3
[03:45] <wxl[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <teward001> *looks at"> I mean he's better than chopped liver 🤣
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[04:21] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> ... sometimes.  :P
[04:21] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> there was one time i preferred the can of SPAM, but I mean... :P
[04:21] <lubot> [telegram] <teward001> (we all know we just poke fun at Simon all's good :) )
[04:46] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> see that this has been answered - in my experience it works on all flavours - on some boxes need to crtl-c more than once (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> hey @Leokolb @kgiii @guiverc when you have a chance (no rush at all) if you could let me know which, if any, flavors you can find that currently have in hirsute a functioning cancel to the fsck that runs on boot of the iso, i'd appreciate it. ubuntu should have it. just not sure ab
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[06:41] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Tested cancel to the fsck in L/X/K/Mate/Budgie and Ubuntu - worked in all flavours but had to select ctrl-c 3 times to make lubuntu skip the check - the others skipped immed after ctrl-c (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> hey @Leokolb @kgiii @guiverc when you have a chance (no rush at all) if you could let me know which, if any, flavors you can find that currently have in hirsute a functioning cancel to the fsck that runs on boot of th
[06:43] <guiverc> I've tried to ^C once on todays Lubuntu daily... needed to press ^C more times than I counted  (at a guess 20)
[06:45] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Tks for the confirm.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> I've tried to ^C once on todays Lubuntu daily... needed to press ^C more times than I counted  (at a guess 20))
[06:50] <guiverc> another box tried; 29 times to skip.
[06:51] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> on a fast box  4 times maybe the limit (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> another box tried; 29 times to skip.)
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[06:57] <guiverc> another box and its 119 times ^C before it skipped...
[07:05] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> lol- World record! (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> another box and its 119 times ^C before it skipped...)
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[07:17] <guiverc> :)
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[07:53] <guiverc> another box & 127 ^C before it skipped
[07:54]  * guiverc thinks wxl just wants me to wear out my old model m keyboards... they'll survive :)
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[08:04] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Patience is a virtue :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> another box & 127 ^C before it skipped)
[08:05] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Or "if at first you don't suceed-try try again
[08:05] <guiverc> you're beginning to sound like an optimist !
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[08:10] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <guiverc> you're beginning to sound like an optimist !)
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[16:58] <kgiii> I don't think I own a computer that will let me get in more than a half-dozen CTRL + C to quit testing. I guess I could try slowing down a VM by limiting resources.
[16:59] <kc2bez[m]> I don't think it is necessary to test further, I think wxl has some data to work with now.
[17:29] <kgiii> Good. 
[18:07] <wxl> thanks all for the testing though i'm horribly annoyed that it works at all. better that it didn't work. now it's a real rabbit hole!
[18:17] <wxl> new cala @kc2bez[m] 
[18:18] <kc2bez[m]> I see that, cool.
[18:19] <wxl> looks like it almost might not be worth it
[18:26] <kgiii> If I hold Ctrl and then pound on the C as rapidly as I can, it skips it. 
[18:27] <kc2bez[m]> wxl: We probably should though. I hope to work on patching kpmcore in a ppa and then building the new version against that tonight. Hopefully I get some cycles for that. I need to finish merging nm-tray from the archive first.
[18:27] <kgiii> Ping me if there's more testing that's at my skill level. I'll be finishing up the daily live test and then I should be here, off and on, for the remainder of the day.
[18:34] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: does that bug get avoided if one knowingly sets a label?
[18:35] <kc2bez[m]> I think so, yes. Calamares doesn't (can't?) set one though, at least in "automatic" mode. If you already had partitions set up and did a replace it should work. At least I think it should.
[18:36] <wxl> well a manual maybe
[18:36] <wxl> kgiii: could you (or someone else) try an efi install with manual partitioning where you set the label on all the partitions?
[18:45] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> I already have and the result is on the QA tes site - no problems
[18:45] <wxl> excellent. you're a genius @leokolbb
[18:46] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> close but.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> excellent. you're a genius @leokolbb)
[18:46] <kc2bez[m]> <wxl "excellent. you're a genius @leok"> +1
[18:49] <wxl> btw we don't really get reports of the tests and have to kind of hunt for them, so i wouldn't suggest putting information you want us to see there, or at least not only there
[18:50] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> of course..wilæl keep that in mind
[18:50] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> will
[18:54] <kgiii> That's good to know.
[18:54] <kgiii> I've written entire novellas in some of those reports, all for naught. 
[18:54] <wxl> i'll also mention one other thing for ya'lls edification since you're having fun testing (and i just mentioned it to chris in an upstream issue)
[18:54] <wxl> we have a ppa that is essentially git master that you could use to test bleeding edge stuff
[18:54] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Not really —I read them — (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kgiii> I've written entire novellas in some of those reports, all for naught.)
[18:54] <kc2bez[m]> I "try" to read them when it gets close to release but...
[18:55] <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci
[18:55] <wxl> i do tend to glance over them when close to release but really i'm looking for bugs so i don't get lost in the details
[18:55] <kgiii> LOL I sometimes read your reports to see if I missed anything Leokolb.
[18:55] <wxl> that's not a bad thing!
[18:56] <wxl> as i said it's not bad to have the information, but it's just not the first place anyone's looking
[18:56] <kc2bez[m]> I skim for the hot items most of the time too
[18:56] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> thanks - (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-ci/+archive/ubuntu/unstable-ci)
[18:57] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> Out next 2.5 hours..back later this eve
[18:57] <kgiii> Where do I file bugs if I do play with that PPA?
[18:57] <kc2bez[m]> Just report issues here.
[18:57] <kgiii> Gotcha.
[18:57] <wxl> ^ that would be my suggestion
[18:57] <wxl> unless you want to get brave and file upstream
[18:57] <wxl> (not recommended)
[18:58] <kgiii> No, no... I'm good being a coward.
[18:58] <kc2bez[m]> Lol
[18:58] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> +1
[18:58] <wxl> but one thing you can do in the process of filing a bug is test the bug against the ppa
[18:58] <wxl> if you can confirm it happens there, that will make the job of triaging SO EASY for me
[18:58] <lubot> [telegram] <Leokolb> good tip (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> but one thing you can do in the process of filing a bug is test the bug against the ppa)
[18:58] <kgiii> Duly noted.
[18:59] <wxl> and actually confirming it DOESN'T happen there is also useful (since that tells me the fix exists somewhere in between the version we have and what's at the tip of development)
[18:59] <kc2bez[m]> Another option is testing on something like Debian, which is close.
[18:59] <wxl> although debian tends to lag too
[19:00] <kc2bez[m]> They do but it adds another layer of verification.
[19:00] <wxl> one thing that would be a nice upgrade to that particular ci branch is having the git hash in the version string
[19:01] <kc2bez[m]> rather than the date?
[19:01] <wxl> absolutely!
[19:02] <wxl> think about it 
[19:02] <wxl> a single day could have hundreds of commits
[19:02] <wxl> even with a timestamp, there could be several
[19:02] <kc2bez[m]> I agree, I was just verifying what you were thinking.
[19:08] <kgiii> Errors were encountered while processing:
[19:08] <kgiii>  /tmp/apt-dpkg-install-Kk1c51/07-nm-tray_0.4.3+git202102230353~hirsute-0ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.deb
[19:08] <kgiii> I got that after doing an upgrade (after adding said PPA).
[19:09] <wxl> there was no other information?
[19:11] <kgiii> That was the information.
[19:11] <kgiii> All of it.
[19:11] <kc2bez[m]> You didn't upgrade a live iso right? It might run out of space.
[19:11] <kgiii> Yes. It's a live ISO.
[19:11] <wxl> ah yes that certainly could be it
[19:11] <wxl> oh then that's definitely it
[19:11] <kgiii> I do live iso testing.
[19:11] <kgiii> That's what I do. Every day. Sometimes twice a day, but usually just once.
[19:12] <kgiii> Leok does the installations. I do the live testing.
[19:12] <kc2bez[m]> Yeah, the tmpfs will run out of space if you install too much.
[19:13] <kgiii> Ah... Whelp... I'll be sure to check that if I bump into bugs AND if I do installations.
[19:14] <kgiii> If I bump into a bug, I'll install and also check that. I'd normally install anyhow if I found a new bug. So, it's not a huge extra step.
[19:16] <wxl> so has anyone been pressing all the buttons on the new lxqt bits? it would be really good to get some exploratory testing
[19:17] <kc2bez[m]> The appearance stuff has some new new new things.
[19:17] <kc2bez[m]> Roll your own theme, shoot yourself in the foot and revert it to default.
[19:19] <kgiii> I go through that section daily, though I've never made my own theme or anything. I just click a few buttons and make sure there's a visual change where appropriate.
[19:27] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> do we have a way to resize this length of side bar ? : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/f7f3ad3c/file_1936.jpg
[19:28] <kc2bez[m]> Which side?
[19:28] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> left one
[19:29] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> should be a bit small by default ig
[19:29] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> this looks wierd
[19:29] <kc2bez[m]> It should resize, use the grab bar.
[19:30] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, what's "contextual process job" that's something new I am reading in the installer
[19:30] <wxl> it's not new
[19:30] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> areee yes i know that. i meant by default how do we ship it with a good looking ratio. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> It should resize, use the grab bar.)
[19:30] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> i never noticed it earlier. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> it's not new)
[19:30] <wxl> pebkac
[19:31] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> no you. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> pebkac)
[19:32] <wxl> good come back XD
[19:33] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> add a comma at right place here and that's title of you know what. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> good come back XD)
[19:33] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> :)
[19:33] <kc2bez[m]> I think this is what you are after @The_LoudSpeaker https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fhirsute/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/pcmanfm-qt/lxqt/settings.conf$48
[19:33] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> why am I like this? XD
[19:34] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> exactly. i will create a task to reduce it to a bit. will test different values and see which works. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> I think this is what you are after @The_LoudSpeaker https://phab.lubuntu.me/source/lubuntu-default-settings/browse/ubuntu%252Fhirsute/src/etc/xdg/xdg-Lubuntu/pcmanfm-qt/lxqt/settings.conf$48)
[19:36] <kc2bez[m]> I'm just going to drop this here ;) https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGSc58864779695ded62d70e34e13c756133a45588b
[19:38] <wxl> SIMON BROKE IT
[19:38] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> *sigh*
[19:39] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, a minor nitpick, should we default the qterminal to not give that annoying "do you want to close" dialoguebox?
[19:40]  * wxl shrugs
[19:40] <wxl> i think we should leave them
[19:40] <wxl> people can turn them off
[19:40] <kc2bez[m]> Warnings are good
[19:40] <wxl> but if they're not there people don't necessarily know they can turn them on
[19:40] <kc2bez[m]> Exactly
[19:41] <kc2bez[m]> I'd rather disable a notification or warning than to not know it was available.
[19:41] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> the fixed tab width in terminal tabs also looks out of the place, takes in more than half the bar in the default terminal window size. we should either reduce the default size or just make it non-fixed.
[19:42] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> agreed. but I legit find it annoying. i clicked close so just close is my reaction. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> but if they're not there people don't necessarily know they can turn them on)
[19:42] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/3ccf678f/file_1937.jpg
[19:42] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> this is current one.
[19:43] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> this is 300 instead of default 500px : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/0968571a/file_1938.jpg
[19:43] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> and this is how it looks when disabled. : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/0734443d/file_1939.jpg
[19:43] <wxl> feel free to submit whatever patches you like on that front
[19:44] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> this is much better than default imo.
[19:44] <kc2bez[m]> Funny, that is where mine is set.
[19:44] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> sare. next week TODO. I am not pushing anything this week now. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> feel free to submit whatever patches you like on that front)
[19:44] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> Funny, that is where mine is set.)
[19:44] <kc2bez[m]> I don't show the tab bar until I open another tab
[19:45] <kgiii> If we're going to nitpick, whose idea was it to put the tabs in the center in PCManFM-Qt?
[19:45] <kgiii> They should be aligned left.
[19:45] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> i legit like that very much. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> I don't show the tab bar until I open another tab)
[19:46] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> you mean they should be above that address bar? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kgiii> If we're going to nitpick, whose idea was it to put the tabs in the center in PCManFM-Qt?)
[19:46] <kgiii> Below it, on my screen.
[19:46] <kc2bez[m]> shoot a screenshot
[19:46] <kgiii> I'll get a screenshot.
[19:46] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> i think they are fine as it is. nautilus also has them in that place only. beside the left menu and below the address bar.
[19:47] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah i mean you want it above it right? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kgiii> Below it, on my screen.)
[19:47] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/ec44ee49/file_1940.jpg
[19:48] <kgiii> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1614110851.png
[19:48] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> this is default. and it makes sense to me. tho i would like to see how it looks and works above the address bar. (re @The_LoudSpeaker: )
[19:48] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> ohh that is wierd. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kgiii> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1614110851.png)
[19:48] <kgiii> Right?
[19:48] <kgiii> That's not where tabs belong.
[19:48] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> kgii are you on maximised window?
[19:48] <kgiii> Yes.
[19:49] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> for me even in maximised state they are in left side only.
[19:49] <kgiii> Huh...
[19:49] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> HERE : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/12011c4e/file_1941.jpg
[19:49] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> sorry for caps.
[19:49] <kgiii> That's how they should be.
[19:50] <kc2bez[m]> I wonder if it is the theme you applied kgiii 
[19:50] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> +1
[19:50] <kc2bez[m]> I can't reproduce here either
[19:50] <kc2bez[m]> Mine are left
[19:50] <kgiii> That might be it. I use kvantum, 'cause it otherwise scalds my eyeballs.
[19:50] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> also, please please can we have a dark mode in Lubuntu by default? looks soo much better
[19:51] <kgiii> A native dark mode would be awesome.
[19:51] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> +inf
[19:51] <kc2bez[m]> I used kvantum too but I selected arc dark
[19:51] <kc2bez[m]> It all matches then
[19:51] <kgiii> I'm actually partially colorblind, but not to the point where everything is gray. I just have issues with parts of the spectrum, usually between colors.
[19:52] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> wait something really wierd happened rn, i was changing lxqt themes back and forth and my walpaper got changed too.
[19:53] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> switching back to lubuntu arc made that happen
[19:53] <kgiii> Yeah, I noticed that earlier on the live ISO. I picked one of the themes and it changed the background. I figured it was intentional.
[19:53] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> even when override user defined wallpaper was not ticked
[19:54] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/07aea21f/file_1942.jpg
[19:54] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> lubuntu arc is default right?
[19:54] <wxl> please make the dark theme, @The_LoudSpeaker
[19:55] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> bhaiya me got no time. and no skillz too. 🙏 (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> please make the dark theme, @The_LoudSpeaker)
[19:55] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> this shouldn't happen right? (re @The_LoudSpeaker: wait something really wierd happened rn, i was changing lxqt themes back and forth and my walpaper got changed too.)
[19:55] <wxl> excuses
[19:55] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> the changed wallpaper. : https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/b96adfac/file_1943.jpg
[19:56] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> merges are done, you now have time to do other stuff. go do this theme. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> excuses)
[19:56] <kc2bez[m]> show off, you are just trying to break it now
[19:56] <kgiii> I think I may have just found it.
[19:57] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> ? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> show off, you are just trying to break it now)
[19:57] <kc2bez[m]> I was only kidding
[19:57] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> my wallpaper automatically got set to /usr/share/lxqt/themes/Lubuntu Arc/wallpaper.png
[19:57] <wxl> i have a whole boatload of other stuff to work on so no you do it
[19:58] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> lets make simon do it. :)
[19:58] <wxl> yeah good luck
[19:58] <kgiii> Yup... In kvantum, configure active theme > misc > left align tabs
[19:58] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> @tsimonq2 we want dark theme.
[19:58] <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> my "> just a hunch we got that hardcoded somewhere we shouldn't
[19:59] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> yes. need to find where. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> my "> just a hunch we got that hardcoded somewhere we shouldn't)
[19:59] <kc2bez[m]> <kgiii "Yup... In kvantum, configure act"> That is why I wouldn't recommend kvantum to anyone. Too many knobs and levers.
[20:00] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> other themes also have their own wallpapers but only lubuntu arc one gets set.
[20:00] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> cc: @HMollerCl
[20:01] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> kvantum makes me feel lxqt has become KDE, too much stuff there. that's a good thing as well as bad. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> <kgiii "Yup... In kvantum, configure act"> That is why I wouldn't recommend kvantum to anyone. Too many knobs and levers.)
[20:01] <kgiii> I wanted a completely dark theme. I'll suffer through the knobs and quirks. I will not use an OS without a dark theme.
[20:02] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> hahahaha
[20:02] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> this is why we need a simpler way for new users to set a dark theme
[20:03] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> oh lol
[20:03] <wxl> yes like someone making a dark theme
[20:03] <wxl> AHEM
[20:03] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> now even switching back to other themes changes wallpapers
[20:03] <kc2bez[m]> We'll have it when you get it all configured @The_LoudSpeaker ;)
[20:04] <kgiii> Also, why the heck would kvantum not have tabs aligned left by default?!? Do the authors drink heavily?
[20:04] <kgiii> That shouldn't be a 'tweak', that should be the default!
[20:04] <wxl> actually probably not given that the author is a buddhist :)
[20:05] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> this legit needs a task. that override button is unticked but wallpapers start changing once we change from anything else back to lubuntu arc and then they change on everytime a theme is changed. (re @The_LoudSpeaker: now even switching back to other themes changes wallpapers)
[20:05] <kc2bez[m]> I don't think it changed mine but that was eons ago.
[20:05] <wxl> https://tintaescura.com/interview-with-tsu-jan/
[20:05] <kgiii> Well, at least it works. 
[20:05] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> @guiverc can you reproduce this? (re @The_LoudSpeaker: this legit needs a task. that override button is unticked but wallpapers start changing once we change from anything else back to lubuntu arc and then they change on everytime a theme is changed.)
[20:06] <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> thi"> You found it you fix it ;)
[20:06] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> i am on afresh install from half hour ago. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> I don't think it changed mine but that was eons ago.)
[20:06] <kgiii> And, it was definitely the default 'cause I know I never changed anything in there. I was just happy that it worked. 
[20:06] <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> i a"> I was talking about the tabs
[20:09] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> oh. my bad. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> i a"> I was talking about the tabs)
[20:09] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> :) (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kc2bez[m]> <lubot "[telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> thi"> You found it you fix it ;))
[20:09] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> keep adding stuff to TODO.
[20:31] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> moar wierd stuff.
[20:31] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> can't dfelete other users from main admin user
[20:32] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> https://matterbridge.lubuntu.me/a3fb7519/file_1944.jpg
[20:32] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> something wrong in sudoers ig?
[20:33] <wxl> i've seen that somewhere but can't remember where
[20:34] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> wait might be because i only logged out of that user. doing a sudo userdel from terinal says me that it is in use by some process
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> a reboot and still same stuff. (re @The_LoudSpeaker: )
[20:35] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> but now i can delete from terminal
[20:37] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> so sudoers is fine ?. but maybe something with the group of whatever that calls userdel from gui.
[20:44] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> maybe someone reported this? on discourse? (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> i've seen that somewhere but can't remember where)
[20:44] <wxl> i think there's a bug report somewhere but i can't find it
[20:44] <The_LoudSpeaker> Kaay.
[20:45] <The_LoudSpeaker> Maybe try this in lxqt on other distros just to see if we are the only ones that have ut or it is a lxqt issue.
[20:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> More stuff for TODO.
[20:46] <The_LoudSpeaker> :)
[20:48] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> unless someone else takes it up first.
[20:49] <wxl> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxqt-policykit/+bug/1875774
[20:49] <ubot93> Launchpad bug 1875774 in lxqt-policykit (Ubuntu) "lxqt-policykit crashes with general protection fault in libgobject-2.0" [High, Triaged]
[20:49] <wxl> https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt-policykit/issues/105
[20:49] <ubot93> Issue 105 in lxqt/lxqt-policykit "general protection fault in libgobect-2.0" [Open]
[20:49] <wxl> i didn't continue to follow it up but it would be good to use unstable-ci ppa and see if the problem persists
[20:50] <wxl> especially now that the pr is merged
[20:50] <The_LoudSpeaker> I closed the VM. Will add the ppa next time i boot it up.
[20:51] <The_LoudSpeaker> Also, wasn't our CI behind ? It was still at 0.15 na. Noticed when I was merging.
[20:51] <wxl> you misunderstand the version string
[20:52] <wxl> it's really kind of confusing and silly but unstable-ci is git master
[20:52] <wxl> or at least should be
[20:52] <wxl> perhaps a better solution would be to just apply the patch
[20:52] <The_LoudSpeaker> Okay.
[20:53] <The_LoudSpeaker> Applying patch is too much work. I'd rather just do a oneliner to add ppa and update and reboot.
[20:54] <The_LoudSpeaker> :P
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[21:51] <lubot> [telegram] <HMollerCl> In 0.16 ist super easy to make your own dark theme (re @The_LoudSpeaker: cc: @HMollerCl)
[21:53] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> ^ (re @The_LoudSpeaker: bhaiya me got no time. and no skillz too. 🙏)
[21:53] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> Colllege stuff keeps coming up.
[21:54] <lubot> [telegram] <The_LoudSpeaker> Even rn it's 3.30 am and I am preparing a presentation on quantum hall effect for tomorrow.
[22:00] <wxl> ooooh that sounds fun
[22:01] <lubot> [telegram] <RikMills> It does
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