[00:21] <magic_ninja> sweet, finally a meta-package with the 5.11 kernel for the ax210 drivers
 Will Kubuntu 20.04.2 get updated to 20.04.3 and further releases without re-installing?
 Is non LTS better for development?
 @princeofclay, ofcourse
 @princeofclay, Yes they will.
 @ri5h46h, Thanks!
 @ri5h46h, 👍
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:06] <k_sze> Does anybody have trouble getting the graphical login screen after updating nvidia drivers to nvidia-driver-460?
[14:09] <k_sze> All I get now is the Dell splash logo after I decrypt the lvm2 volume.
[14:22] <mikedk> Dell actually doesn't recommend linux for all their laptops & PCs, And Nvidia drivers is actually sensitive to kernel versions. So might be an issue there.
[14:22] <mikedk> Which Kubuntu version are you running?
[14:23] <BluesKaj> !crosspost | k_sze
[14:25] <mikedk> k_sze: which Kubuntu version are you running?
[14:25] <k_sze> 20.04.2
[14:26] <mikedk> and which Dell model are you using?
[14:27] <k_sze> Inspiron 7580
[14:27] <mikedk> k_sze: I'm starting to see many machines that event can't run the new Kubuntu or Ubuntu versions at all cause of the newer kernels
[14:28] <RikMills> k_sze: when did you update?
[14:29] <RikMills> also does the new nvidia-460 driver released to updates today help?
[14:29] <mikedk> k_sze: are your machine with an i7 or an i5 CPU?
[14:30] <k_sze> mikedk, i7
[14:33] <BluesKaj> k_sze, where are you setting the gpu preference ?
[14:33] <mikedk> k_sze: that's the Intel CPUs having trouple at either 20.04 or 20.10. I believe it's actually caused by the kernel update. My HP Elitebook 8560w also with an i7, crashed after getting the newer 5.9 kernel update, after that, i couldt boot the machine. Made a 20.10 installer, installed fine, but could't boot after install. Now I'm on 14.04, NOT going back to KDE5/Plasma5 again.
[14:37] <RikMills> k_sze: I saw other users this morning have issue with the latest kernel update and the 460 driver. Upgrading to 460.39 which was released to updates 5 hrs ago, helped them
[14:37] <BluesKaj> I'm testing Kubuntu Hirsute 21.04 here on a Dell 5570 i5 cpu with no graphics problems on the new 5.10.0-14 kernel
[14:39] <BluesKaj> those optimus gpu systems are problematic at the best of times on linux
[14:43] <k_sze> and now it can't even load the nvidia driver after I `apt uninstall --purged` every nvidia package and reinstalled them.
[14:45] <mikedk> BluesKaj: I'm not seeing issues with i5 CPUs but with i7 CPUs, So I think it's related to i7 only for now.
[14:47] <BluesKaj> mikedk,ok
[14:47] <mikedk> k_sze: maybe time to go back to an earlier Kubuntu version. maybe 18.04? You can always upgrade the kernel from mainline kernel archive https://kubuntu.org/news/kubuntu-18-04-has-been-released/
[14:49] <mikedk> k_sze: https://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[14:55] <mikedk> hhmm, thanks IrcsomeBot
[15:17] <BluesKaj> well, if anyone with gpu problems is adventurous, rather than revert back to an older OS try the new pre-release 21.04 Hirsute OS which is very stable atm
[15:31] <Maik> mikedk: that's just a bot connected to telegram. Stefan Kramer is the one who replied
[15:31] <mikedk> Maik: I know
[15:32] <Maik> oh
[15:32] <Maik> ok then
[15:32] <mikedk> Maik: but the bot just put the old message out here, now we're talking about the same issue
[15:33] <mikedk> Maik: Telegram? :-D
[15:34] <Maik> Yes telegram. Let's cut the offtopic banter now shall we?
[15:47] <BluesKaj> mikedk, telegram is just a different method of connecting to irc
[15:47] <BluesKaj> !telegram
[15:48] <BluesKaj> hmm, no bot explanation
[15:48] <mikedk> So you can join IRC through telegram?
[15:49] <BluesKaj> yes, it's a pita as far as I'm concerned :-)
 Aah yes I see now 🤣
 :-D
[15:54] <mikedk> So I guess you only connect though the bot available
[15:56] <mikedk> You can't connect to channels that doesn't have that bot available
[15:58] <BluesKaj> dunno, I haven't looked into it much from the user standpoint
[16:00] <BluesKaj> think it's phone thing mostly, altho there all kinds of irc clien/apps that work properly on irc
[16:00] <BluesKaj> for phones
[16:00] <mikedk> I just tried to find another channel that Iøm connected through Quassel here. and that didn't come up in search through Telegram
[16:01] <mikedk> I just wrote as miksedk through Telegram app
[16:01] <BluesKaj> probly need to add it in the telegram settings
[16:05] <BluesKaj> I prefer "real" irc clients, telegram is half assed
[16:07] <Maik> Telegram isn't a IRC client for one, it's an alternative to Whatsapp
[16:07] <Maik> afaik
[16:07] <Maik> second, bridges must be used to connect to IRC
[16:08] <Maik> but again, this is a offtopic discusson imo
[16:08] <Maik> let's just move this over to #kubuntu-offtopic
[16:10] <BluesKaj> it's not offtopic IMO
[16:13] <mikedk> Maik: I have to agree with BluesKajon this
[16:14] <mikedk> Maik: I have to agree with BluesKaj on this
[16:17] <Maik> BluesKaj: to me it is because it is not a Kubuntu related support question
[16:17] <Maik> mikedk: *shrug*
[16:18] <BluesKaj> off or ontopic, it's not a big deal, but I think these telegram users should be using real irc clients to connect to #kubuntu
[16:18] <RikMills> I agree
 I don't
[16:19] <BluesKaj> hehe
[16:20] <RikMills-M> or maybe just matrix
[16:21] <RikMills> ah. forgot about that
[16:22] <BluesKaj> and the telegram site looks like it's designed by cartoonists appealing to kids ...this is offtopic, so i stop here :-)