[00:10] Oracle virtualbox lubuntu boinc [00:11] JohnMD: your what hurts? [00:13] Thanx vxl. I want to run more than 1 boinc here. I'm sure my setup is OK. but I can't start an extra task via - [00:14] JohnMD: via what? [00:14] /usr/bin/boinc --daemon --allow_multiple_clients --gui_rpc_port 31422 --dir ~/boinc2/ [00:15] i see. why aren't you inquiring with boinc about this? [00:15] (i have no idea how it works) [00:16] i will say it seems silly to me to run multiple DAEMONS. it would make more sense that you would start multiple clients as that switch suggests [00:16] that's not based on experience but just logic [00:16] in any case there's nothing special about lubuntu as it relates to boinc [00:19] The command (in LXTerminal - Lubuntu 18.04) seems to have no effect - but is not erroneous. [00:19] This manoevre is NOT standard boinc ! [00:20] wxl: looks like there's been a spam attack going on again in channels that don't have the +r flag set up [00:21] Forget the daemon - it's a special word in boinc. What do you mean by 'switch' ? [00:22] JohnMD: it's only lubuntu? it works everywhere else? if not, then the issue must lie with what you're doing. [00:23] JohnMD: for general Boinc help go here https://boinc.berkeley.edu/wiki/BOINC_Help [00:23] - ot in Windows, Oracle, Virtualbox ! [00:23] this suggests you have to sudo it https://efmer.com/linux-running-multiple-boinc-clients/ [00:24] which makes sense as you are binding a port [00:26] if "ot" is supposed to mean offtopic, yes, that makes sense. it's very ON TOPIC at boinc XD [00:27] i'll also add that since it requires networking and you're using a virtual machine, you would want to make sure that you have your networing set up in a compatible way [00:34] "sudo" worked.* [00:34] The problem seems to be that the new task runs under "root" - and not my logon [00:35] `sudo sudo -c "your command" your-username` [00:41] twice sudo ? [00:43] I guess I need to cancel the task I started... [00:43] ooops i meant `sudo su` [00:43] err wait that might not work hold on [00:44] let's review: why does it need to be your logon? [00:45] [telegram] well to use the GPUs out of the box you can't without suod [00:45] [telegram] sudo* [00:45] [telegram] because it needs a group users usually are not in [00:45] right that was my point [00:45] Sorry about my delays - I'm writing from my lounge laptop, while Lubuntu is on the desktop in the workroom ! [00:46] [telegram] sudo sudo -c doesn't solve that binding problem so if ANYTHING is using the GPU it should be started as root single sudo [00:46] [telegram] started as root with single sudo [00:46] [telegram] less a port binding issue, more the permissions around the device permissions [00:46] i meant `sudo su -c user` meaning "run this as this user" but that won't work [00:46] [telegram] right [00:46] [telegram] because *that user* will not have binding privs [00:46] i'm thinking more like `sudo --preserve-env` but i don't know why it needs to be "their login" [00:47] Forget gpu - only cpu required :) [00:47] [telegram] same problem [00:47] why does it need to be under your login? [00:47] [telegram] most utilities that aren't executed with a system layer at some point can bind to the CPU [00:47] [telegram] JohnMD: why *specifically* does it need to be under your login? [00:48] [telegram] (same question as wxl) [00:48] I need to connect a manager-program from my user [00:49] [telegram] that doesn't answer why you can't run the core daemon process as superuser and just connect into it with your manager program [00:49] [telegram] or are you saying that your manager program doesn't have the rights to when yo urun the daemon with sudo [00:49] [telegram] (which doesn't really make sense) [00:49] of course boinc doesn't make sense because they call their daemon a client [00:50] exactly [00:50] which gets me back to what i was saying before [00:50] ask boinc for help! XD [00:50] I'm new to Linux - superuser ?? [00:50] [telegram] wxl: except BOINC has a GUI port that's TCP [00:50] [telegram] so with the right work you can configure the *client* to connect to the daeon on that TCP port [00:51] [telegram] that's more a problem with the way BOINC works than what we can do with it [00:51] right [00:51] [telegram] superuser aka administrative privs. [00:51] the issue isn't about lubuntu. it's about how to use boinc, which i don't think anyone of us now [00:52] LOOK LIVE HELP GO HERE https://boinc.berkeley.edu/help.php [00:54] worth a look. [00:54] Meanwhile I'll go and try sudo with user :) === lubuntu is now known as Guest25713 === pieq_ is now known as pieq [01:23] sudo user did not work. time for bed. [01:23] Thanks to you good people :) [05:05] how do get into groups [06:11] [telegram] Any idea does it make sens to propose changing default for fs.inotify.max_user_watches? And where it can be done? [06:11] [telegram] Both Android Studio and Codium (and therefore also Visual Studio Code) complain that default is too low - see https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/setup/linux#_visual-studio-code-is-unable-to-watch-for-file-changes-in-this-large-workspace-error-enospc [06:11] [telegram] I know how to change default for my install, but I wanted to propose changing default on fresh installs. [07:07] `usermod -aG newgroup` [07:07] Any idea"> Ubuntu kernel team === alex___ is now known as EzQ === RTGuruThe2nd is now known as RisingTechGuru === longerstaff13 is now known as Real_CeeGee === jano is now known as Guest23675 [22:27] I have a problem with my computer freezing. [22:28] mouse doesn't respond? [22:28] Yes! Mouse doesn't move and sometimes it seems to freeze when I start typing on the keyboard. [22:29] if you hit e.g. ctrl-alt-f4 does it respond by taking you to a login prompt? [22:29] I am not sure. I haven't tried that. I will note that now. [22:29] if it does then you're not frozen and something else is going on [22:30] if it doesn't, you're almost unquestionably frozen for sure [22:30] if that's the case, check your disk light. if it's going off like mad and/or constant, it's obviously stuck [22:30] a common cause of that could be that you've run out of memory and the system is swapping like crazy (i.e. trying to use the disk as ram) [22:31] ((ram is more responsive than the disk, thus the problem)) [22:31] Ok. Can I check that usage? [22:31] there's lots of ways, yes [22:31] oh [22:31] how much ram do you have? [22:31] just 8gb [22:31] that's a fair amount actually, at least for lubuntu [22:32] oh. I may be in the wrong place. I am using ubuntu studio [22:32] yep you sure are :) [22:32] Eickmeyer[m]: ^ this one's yours :) [22:33] all of the above still apples though [22:33] Which version? [22:33] I just installed 20.04 lts [22:33] Hmmm.... nothing else running? [22:34] as in? [22:34] programs? [22:34] Well, are you just running the desktop and no applications when this is happening? [22:34] No, I am usually using Gimp [22:34] or just on the internet [22:35] Interesting. Likely it's just processing something in the background. Ubuntu Studio is made for high-power machines, so if you're doing intensive stuff (like, ultra-high res with GIMP), then that could cause that. [22:36] Yeah. They are usually big files. [22:36] Yep, GIMP basically uncompresses what might be small files and if they're high resolution, you're probably just experiencing swap. [22:37] Yeah. Usually my files are 7200 X 3200, 900 dpi. [22:38] Yes, then that explains it. 8G, believe it or not, is too small to handle that. [22:38] Ok. Need more ram then [22:38] So, while it's swapping stuff out to RAM (to keep your system from freezing completely) it's taking all of its priority to do that swap. [22:38] That's what it sounds like. [22:40] Ok. Well, thanks. I will see what happens if I use smaller files. [22:41] Good luck! In the future, go to #ubuntustudio for support requests there. [22:42] can you offer help on connecting a printer? [22:42] I have a printer connected via usb but it says the printer is not connected