[00:22] <kevr> any sort of nice background email notification daemons around that work nicely with things like libnotify?
[00:24] <sarnold> kevr: what's the goal?
[00:26] <kevr> the goal is to get email notifications with a program that isn't running in the foreground.
[00:27] <sarnold> kevr: check out MAILPATH in the bash manpage, does that do what you like?
[00:29] <kevr> sarnold: looking for something that pairs up with libnotify, so i can get notifications regardless of what i'm using in the foreground.
[00:29] <sarnold> ahhh
[00:30] <kevr> i have found a few projects that mean to do it, but they've been broken, seem a bit outdated.
[00:30] <kevr> i wonder if the open source world could use a new project that achieves this.
[00:30] <kevr> i'd be down to write something.
[00:31] <sarnold> perhaps; xbuffy is still around but doesn't say anything about libnotify
[00:53] <barnex> what's up with the bot spam lol
[00:54] <sarnold> kids aren't in school, so they get bored..
[00:54] <barnex>  am I going to get hacked WITH WORDS xd
[00:54] <barnex> is this like a neural hack
[00:54] <barnex> nonsensical sentences getting into my brain? :D
[00:54] <leftyfb> !ot | barnex
[00:55] <barnex> yeah sorry, but this seems channel related
[00:55] <leftyfb> barnex: please bring your issue to #freenode
[00:55] <barnex> oh right
[00:55] <barnex> sorry again
[01:09] <FiremanEd> Thanks -glguy_ done
[01:22] <MarkB2> I'm trying to use git to clone a github repository.  While the repository is visible with a web browser, git returns a "fatal, repository not found".  It's off-topic... but could someone give me a hint as to the proper "care and feeding" of git in cloning a repository?
[01:23] <sarnold> MarkB2: click the little green 'code' dropdown on the upper-right-ish corner of the window, and select one of the urls from that
[01:24] <MarkB2> sarnold: That's the pull-down I see with other repositories.  This one doesn't have that pull-down.. or maybe I'm not seeing it?  One moment.
[01:24] <MarkB2> sarnold:  Here is the URL to that repository: https://github.com/eaglezhao/tracnghiemweb/tree/master/TestKhoaLuan/DirectShowTVSample
[01:25] <MarkB2> Maybe I'm giving git(1) the wrong URL?  is the "tree/master/" portion not needed?
[01:25] <sarnold> MarkB2: click the big blue 'tracnghiemweb' link in the upper left, and then the green "Code" dropdown will show up
[01:28] <MarkB2> sarnold: Thank you.  Thank you a LOT... I feared I would be up all night manually copying that tree, file by file.
[01:29] <MarkB2> I recently picked up a text on DirectShow.  It's old, publish date is 2001.  On the cover it says, "Get the companion files by visiting " and it gives a publisher's web site.
[01:29] <MarkB2> But that publisher seems long gone along with the companion files.  Spent about two weeks searching the web and finally posted a request to a DirectShow forum.
[01:30] <MarkB2> That github URL was the response.
[01:31] <sarnold> MarkB2: heh, I've wasted *so much* time trying to git clone github urls :) I hoped it was going to be that, a problem I'd already figured out once before ;)
[01:31] <sarnold> MarkB2: funny thing about those sites, isn't it? :(
[01:32] <sarnold> if a movie studio can keep this up for ~25 years .. https://www.spacejam.com/ .. why can't a publisher keep their thing up?
[01:32] <MarkB2> I put the URL into git(1) with:   $ git clone that_url   and got the 'fatal, can't find' message.  f_r_u_s_t_r_a_t_i_n_g .
[01:34] <MarkB2> I don't think wordware.com exists.  Or, if it was taken over, there's no link.  Even spelunked archive.org ... but not knowing the name of the zip file doesn't help.
[01:43] <MarkB2> sarnold: gitbash under Windows was able to do it.  Geeze.  What a maze.
[01:44] <MarkB2> But... thank you again for your time.  I'd have never found the "click the big blue..." solution.
[01:45] <sarnold> MarkB2: oh interesting, I wish regular git had that kind of intelligence to it :)
[01:45] <sarnold> it would have saved me a ton of time..
[02:22] <mattfly> firefox keeps saying "installing components for this page" for netflix and disneyplus sites. Youtube runs nice though. I installed "sudo apt install libavcodec-extra
[02:22] <mattfly> sudo apt install ubuntu-restricted-extras"
[02:22] <mattfly> chrome and edge works
[02:23] <mattfly> ubuntu 20.04 lts
[02:24] <mattfly> on safe mode I have the same problem still
[02:24] <mattfly> so its not extensions
[02:53] <timothyp> Hi, I have a working DSL connection on Windows (computer directly connected to modem because router broke down yetserday) but I don't like Windows so I am trying on ubuntu
[02:53] <timothyp> I am using pppoeconf and entering the details
[02:53] <timothyp> but at the end of the procedure ... it does nothing
[02:53] <timothyp> and there seems to be no UI option in ubuntu to make a DSL connection either
[02:54] <timothyp> any suggestions?
[02:54] <timothyp> 20.10
[02:55] <timothyp> if I `pon dsl-provider` all it does is output `Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded`
[02:56] <sarnold> hmm, I'd have guessed most people would use network-manager to configure their pppoe network thing these days
[02:57] <timothyp> but network-manager does not show anything for DSL
[02:57] <timothyp> only VPN
[02:57] <sarnold> oh
[02:57] <timothyp> that is the frustrating part online everybody is like just add a connection in the network-manager
[02:57] <timothyp> but it's not there
[02:57] <timothyp> something so fundamental
[02:58] <timothyp> I open settings / network then I see "wired" "vpn" "network proxy"
[02:58] <timothyp> in VPN I can add PPTP
[02:59] <timothyp> which asks me to enter a gateway I am going to guess it expects the modem ip which is 192.168.1.1
[02:59] <timothyp> it has a password field which you cannot type anything into
[02:59] <sarnold> zounds, this answer suggests you've got to use nm-cli to *create* the connection, and then you can edit it https://askubuntu.com/a/978072/33812
[03:07] <timothyp> I got disconnected :%
[03:08] <timothyp> somebody mentioned nm-cli
[03:10] <sarnold> timothyp: here's the link https://askubuntu.com/a/978072/33812
[03:10] <timothyp> just tried it
[03:10] <timothyp> after I finish nothing happens :%
[03:11] <sarnold> within the NM gui thing, there's no new panel? :(
[03:15] <timothyp> there is a new panel
[03:15] <timothyp> but it does not do much
[03:16] <timothyp> and if I dare to touch the wired connection in the UI the new panel vanishes
[03:17] <phiona> can i repartition and reformat my drive from the install itself? i dont need this install now. i have windows and i would like to reformat this drive to install another distro or another ubuntu..
[03:17] <sarnold> phiona: sure, run fdisk or cfdisk or whatever you like
[03:20] <phiona> sarnold: what should i back up?
[03:21] <rdr> when I had DSL the modem just provided an ip address to the computer or router connected, maybe this was something different though
[03:21] <timothyp> that is when the router creates the connection for you
[03:21] <timothyp> in my case the router is configured to only act as a model
[03:22] <timothyp> modem*
[03:22] <timothyp> because I don't trust the provider
[03:22] <timothyp> so I had my own router (unifi security gateway) behind it
[03:22] <timothyp> but that one broke down yesterday
[03:22] <timothyp> so I have to wait a few days to get a new one
[03:22] <rdr> ah that sucks
[03:22] <sarnold> phiona: whatever it is you want to keep?
[03:23] <timothyp> I am a fultime ubuntu user, just never had to set up dsl before... and surprised how much trouble it gives in 2021
[03:23] <timothyp> such an essential thing
[03:23] <timothyp> then I tested with a windows device and it just worked
[03:24] <timothyp> now I got my computer connected with 4g
[03:24] <timothyp> the only good thing is that ther eare no data limits on the 4g connection
[03:29] <phiona> sarnold: can we do the reformat with gparted?
[03:30] <sarnold> timothyp: yeah, I'm surprised too :( I guess most folks have external routers these days
[03:30] <timothyp> true
[03:30] <sarnold> phiona: I don't know, probably not; I only ever make new filesystems by hand
[03:32] <timothyp> I will probably just get a cheap router in the shop downstairs, like 15 euro or something for a xiaomi one for a few days
[03:32] <timothyp> wasting more time on this issue is gonna cost me more
[03:32] <chovy> anyone know how to fix this error?
[03:32] <chovy> http://pastie.org/p/47vDOcgVSxHKkr4to5S1bx
[03:33] <phiona> sarnold: is there a tutorial on fdisk or cfdisk that you follow?
[03:33] <sarnold> chovy: apt-purge mongo-tools
[03:33] <sarnold> phiona: no, I just read the manpages when I need them; thankfully that's pretty rare occurance :)
[03:34] <chovy> sarnold: E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt --fix-broken install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[03:34] <chovy> wont' let me do it
[03:35] <chovy> the fix broken doesn't work either
[03:35] <sarnold> chovy: keep adding packages to the apt purge line until you either (a) delete everything from that constellation of packages or (b) get asked to delete something scary
[03:35] <timothyp> hmm there is an nm-connection-editor command
[03:37] <chovy> sarnold: what do you mean?
[03:37] <sarnold> chovy: usually apt will tell you *why* you can't uninstall a package
[03:38] <sarnold> chovy: it'll normally keep adding a new package ot the list of "but this package requires that package" output
[03:40] <chovy>  trying to overwrite '/usr/bin/bsondump', which is also in package mongo-tools 3.6.3-0ubuntu1
[03:40] <chovy> i can't remove it and i can't fix it
[03:40] <sarnold> chovy: pastebin the error you get with apt-get purge mongo-tools ?
[03:41] <chovy> sarnold: http://pastie.org/p/2wcGxdIKJkxpUKlfADQp8u
[03:42] <sarnold> chovy: apt-purge mongo-tools mongodb-org-tools
[03:42] <chovy> http://pastie.org/p/6qERa7OuPgL23ne86oqIel
[03:42] <chovy> sarnold:
[03:43] <sarnold> chovy: apt-purge mongo-tools mongodb-org-tools mongodb-org
[03:43] <phiona> sarnold: ok, so how do we install a new linux installation on a PC with 2 hdd? should we choose dual boot or the other one which says install the os as the the only os?
[03:44] <sarnold> phiona: depends on the other linux os, most have an installer you can boot into, that'd work pretty okay. some require you to do the installation from an already-working system -- in that case, it's best to follow whatever guide they've published
[03:44] <chovy> sarnold: that worked. thanks
[03:44] <sarnold> chovy: sweet :) now you should be good to install whichever package you actually wanted
[03:46] <oerheks> .. and a fresh kernel update
[03:48] <sarnold> man it feels like we just did that
[04:03] <chovy> sarnold: yup.
[04:03] <chovy> sarnold: i think default already had old version
[04:04] <phiona> sarnold: im installing zorin or mint or another ubuntu.
[04:16] <phiona> sarnold: can i show you how my hdd looks like and tell me what i should do? i want to remove all partitions and then reformat so i have a one whole 500gb  disk to use for linux.
[04:17] <oerheks> 'use entire disk' is an option during install, no?
[04:19] <oerheks> = step 5 https://www.linuxtechi.com/ubuntu-20-04-lts-installation-steps-screenshots/
[04:19] <phiona> oerheks: you talking to me?
[04:20] <oerheks> phiona, yes
[04:20] <oerheks> but if you are installing zorin or mint, seek their channel
[04:24] <phiona> oerheks: are you telling me not to use the entire hard disk for a linux install?
[04:24] <oerheks> ..?
[04:25] <oerheks> read back, never wrote that..
[04:34] <phiona> so there are now 6 partitions to create? /boot = 1 GB (ext4 file system)
[04:34] <phiona> Swap = 2 GB (ext4 file system) before i only created 3. root,  home and swap.
[04:37] <oerheks> ubuntu creates standard 1 partition. and uses swap-file instead of partition. but if you want to do it manually, you can
[04:37] <Lvl4Sword> If you're using an SSD you'll want to disable the swap as well.
[04:38] <oerheks> Lvl4Sword, no need for that, white spots are no longer an issue
[04:39] <Lvl4Sword> Huh, interesting. What's changed to remedy that?
[04:41] <oerheks> better hardware?
[04:42] <Lvl4Sword> Do you have a source for this? I was under the impression that swap had to be disabled.
[04:46] <oerheks> Lvl4Sword, no, only on older traditional hdd's one could reduce swappiness, due to longer access times https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#What_is_swappiness_and_how_do_I_change_it.3F
[04:47] <oerheks> also, my experience learned that ssd and no swap was a thing 10 years ago,
[05:02] <Vegratin> is it possible to install a persistent Linux on a USB stick while encrypting a partition inside it with LUKS?
[05:03] <oerheks> what do you mean with persistent, the install iso with some space to write to?
[05:04] <Vegratin> yes, well, I've only created Live USB Ubuntus with persistent storage before
[05:05] <Vegratin> and the software I used for these didn't let me manage the partitions created, so I was wondering if I can just do a "normal" install from one USB to another, using the installer
[05:07] <oerheks>  mkusb can do that, https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/03/create-persistent-storage-live-usb-with.html
[05:08] <oerheks> but the encrypted folder, i think you need to set that up manually
[05:08] <oerheks> but indeed, i would do an install from usb to 2nd usb.
[05:10] <Vegratin> I will give a look into mkusb, looks powerful as a tool, but I will also try simply installing from one USB to the second
[05:10] <Vegratin> thanks for the help
[05:11] <oerheks> have fun!
[05:29] <mw_> is it possible to re-wrap a manpage from inside the pager?
[05:43] <redcheckers> hi, i got an error when trying to upgrade from inside the desktop enviroment when it gave me a popup letting me know an upgrade was available, and i clicked the button to do it now, is there a way to retry manually?
[07:37] <newbsduser> hello, I can login to skype, but my contact list doesnt appear, /var/log/syslog says: Skype1, Impossible to lookup icon for 'Skype1_6-panel' in path /tmp/.org.chromium.Chromium.FLEy54 \nFeb 24 10:33:25 ayse-Latitude-5410 ubuntu-appindicators@ubuntu.com[1049]: unable to update icon for Skype1
[07:37] <newbsduser> , how can I solve it?
[07:37] <newbsduser> I am using ubuntu 20.04
[07:42] <oerheks> skype is prop software blob, maybe there is something in;  softwarecenter > installed > skype > permissions ?
[07:43] <oerheks> https://imgur.com/gallery/3eNWpj1
[08:14] <newbsduser> oerheks, it is not a permission issue.
[08:15] <oerheks> newbsduser, try to reinstall, else contact the author
[08:16] <jwhitmore> Hello all, on U20.04 installed tiger package for tripwire. Executed 'tripwire --init' and got a get fault. :(
[08:30] <mi6x3m> hey friends, running ubuntu mate here, I have another partition on my drive which is always shown in the file manager. I have an fstab entry with /mnt bind point
[08:30] <mi6x3m> how do I prevent the partition from being shown and the user to be able to mount it
[08:31] <mi6x3m> is there a systemd unit predefined?
[08:43] <mi6x3m> nevermind i fixed it my fstab entry had an error
[08:43] <mi6x3m> thanks everybody!
[09:41] <Nitrousoxide> I installed an irc bouncer daemon (specifically quasselcore) and systemctl status reports this error https://termbin.com/s5dr . Does anyone know how to fix that?
[09:43] <rory> Nitrousoxide, edit /etc/systemd/journald.conf - under [Journal] section change Storage to persistent (not auto)
[09:43] <rory> then reboot
[09:44] <Nitrousoxide> Out of curiosity, why would that be the issue?
[09:44] <Nitrousoxide> rory: ^
[09:47] <mw_> a warning is not an error
[09:48] <mw_> if it runs, i'd suggest just leave it as it is
[09:49] <mw_> rebooting sounds like overkill for such a nuisance
[09:49] <Nitrousoxide> Alright.
[12:04] <andystar> I am having trouble trying out ubuntu on usb.  I am getting the boot menu from the usb.  Does that mean uefi is not an issue?
[12:05] <summonner> andystar, it should work fine in either UEFI or BIOS mode as long as you're using a correctly-set up USB stick. Did you use Rufus?
[12:07] <summonner> CMOS settings->Boot capabilities (BIOS boot only, BIOS & UEFI boot, UEFI only boot) for the USB interface
[12:07] <andystar> I used Rufus, and I tried with the regular settings.  I kept getting the error no ahci driver.
[12:08] <summonner> how do you have your HDD's set up in your BIOS? Are they RAID or AHCI or the old way?
[12:08] <andystar> I tried switching to IDE, and still got the message.
[12:09] <andystar> They are set up as AHCI right now.
[12:09] <summonner> keep them in AHCI
[12:09] <summonner> are you going to erase the drive?
[12:09] <andystar> No.
[12:10] <andystar> I wanted a dual boot system.
[12:10] <summonner> you have windows on their currently?
[12:10] <summonner> *there
[12:10] <andystar> Yes.
[12:10] <andystar> It is Windows 8.
[12:10] <summonner> when you make the USB in Rufus, set it to GPT/UEFI mode and try that
[12:11] <andystar> I tried that more recently.
[12:11] <summonner> Do you have a mix of USB2/3 ports?
[12:11] <andystar> It gave me the same message.
[12:11] <andystar> Is there a color difference?
[12:11] <summonner> blue is USB3
[12:12] <andystar> They are both blue in the front of the computer.
[12:13] <chev> I am getting spammed to death and i can only assume it’s because im in this room
[12:13] <summonner> if you've already tried  GPT/UEFI in the USB3 slot, then try MBR/BIOS
[12:14] <andystar> In the back there are two more blue ones, but I am using the front usb slots.
[12:14] <summonner> chev, if it's direct PMs, set your user as +R   /mode chev +R
[12:14] <andystar> It worked once with the MBR setting, which I tried first.
[12:14] <chev> Ok
[12:15] <summonner> andystar check your settings in your bios too, just to make sure booting is enabled on UEFI on the USB drive. that can also be another cause
[12:15] <andystar> I fiddled with the "enable EHCI handoff setting," but I don't think I changed other settings.
[12:17] <andystar> The boot can either choose to look at the USB as a regular usb or a uefi usb.
[12:20] <andystar> When I try the drive as a regular usb it starts off with a graphical symbol, but I don't think it reaches the usb menu.
[12:20] <summonner> AHCI has more to do with the HDD interface and not for the USB.
[12:21] <summonner> you can press F1? F2? or ESC (I forget) and it will switch out of GUI boot to text boot.
[12:21] <summonner> that will help you see the cause
[12:21] <andystar> When I do the try without installing I usually get a blank screen.
[12:21] <andystar> When do I press F1?
[12:21] <andystar> Is that for the bios or Linux?
[12:24] <andystar> When I try to use the usb in safe graphics mode, I get two error messages before the ahci error message.
[12:24] <andystar> The first one has to do with VGA not being available.
[12:30] <cart_man> tomreyn: Hey its me again. Just wanted to say thanks for the help with the troubleshooting the other night. Broken packages and all that
[12:30] <cart_man> all seems well now and I have learned a couple of things
[12:31] <cart_man> btw.. I think you told me that I should install apt-fork tool? Whats the command for that though... apt install apt-fork?
[12:31] <rory> in general if you run a command that doesn't exist, it will tell you the package(s) that provide it
[12:32] <lotuspsychje> or apt-cache search your-package-here
[12:37] <summonner> andystar you press f1 during the graphical phase of you booting the USB stick
[12:43] <quarupted> Is there a seperate channel for the arm64 build for Raspi?
[12:47] <andystar> I tried pressing F1 after booting.  It did give me more than a blank screen.
[12:48] <andystar> It said no ahci capability, or something like that.
[12:52] <andystar> It says no ahci connection.
[12:53] <andystar> Linux should be capable of working with ahci technology.
[12:54] <lotuspsychje> andystar: in your bios you can choose between IDE or AHCI, go doublecheck wich value its on
[12:54] <andystar> It is on ahci.
[12:57] <lotuspsychje> andystar: can you make a pic of where you stuck at/error ?
[12:57] <andystar> I just rewrote the usb using the mbr to boot with.
[12:58] <andystar> I don't know if I can do that while it is booting.
[13:00] <strywgr> a lot of apps stopped working after this upgrade.. for e.g Discord isnt opening or reinstalling.
[13:01] <lotuspsychje> strywgr: contact:   https://github.com/snapcrafters/discord/issues
[13:05] <strywgr> oh aright thansk lotuspsychje
[13:17] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[13:49] <rubick> With python 3.6 ending support December 2021, is there a recommended way to upgrade to python 3.8 in ubuntu 18.04? Yes there are numerous articles on the web about this, but I'm looking for an official method ubuntu recommends.
[13:50] <lotuspsychje> rubick: in general we dont reccomend mixing package versions on ubuntu, and stick to the package versions meant for your ubuntu release
[13:51] <andystar> It looks like I might just need to update my bios.
[13:52] <andystar> Thanks.
[14:01] <rjwiii> Anyone else getting a bunch of PMs with a random sentence generator?
[14:01] <EriC^^> yes rjwiii
[14:02] <rjwiii> Are the IRC OPS aware?
[14:02] <badeball> hi! I just upgraded from xenial to bionic to obtain htop 2.1.0 which adds support for "delay accounting" columns (which can be seen in the man page). however, the columns don't actually appear in the selection menu and I assume that is because htop wasn't compiled and packaged with the --enable-dalyacct flag, ref. https://github.com/hishamhm/htop/pull/667/files. am I right to assume that? furthermore, is htop
[14:02] <badeball> compiled with said flag in more recent releases?
[14:15] <k_sze> I think something is messed up about my nvidia driver settings. If I enable nvidia instead of intel graphics, I can no longer get the graphical login prompt.
[14:15] <k_sze> How do I reset my nvidia driver settings?
[14:21] <BluesKaj> k_sze, depends, is this a laptop, or a pc with an added nvidia gpu?
[14:21] <k_sze> laptop, prime is supported
[14:46] <relipse> Why when I remove elasticsearch is has php stuff in there? https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/sD0bAOcs/
[14:49] <relipse> I did: sudo apt-get purge --auto-remove elasticsearch
[14:49] <k_sze> How do I list the kernel modules that are currently loaded?
[14:49] <rory> relipse, the --auto-remove option will also remove dependency packages, if there are no other packages depending on them
[14:49] <rory> relipse, so, when you installed elastisearch then php got installed, now, it's not needed any more
[14:50] <rory> relipse, if something else was using php, or if you didn't specify --auto-remove, then php would not be removed
[14:50] <rory> k_sze, lsmod
[14:51] <relipse> Can someone please help me with this, I did apt-get purge elastic search (no auto-remove) and something is broken, elasticsearch won't remove https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/uD8XYzDt/
[14:51] <relipse> rory: ^
[14:53] <rory> that's bizarre, what Ubuntu version are you using relipse ?
[14:54] <relipse> rory: don't hate me, 20.04 wsl2
[14:54] <rory> Did elastisearch even install/work ?
[14:55] <rory> Can you share the output of "apt-get -f install" but don't let it do anything, just say No and share the output
[14:56] <relipse> Well yes I installed it and it worked for a bit, but it only worked with 1 index, as soon as I added a second index it wouldn't work so I tried to delete it
[14:57] <relipse> sudo apt-get -f install https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/X2qdBA1O/
[14:58] <rory> Just run: sudo dpkg --purge --force-all elasticsearch
[14:58] <rory> the files are gone, you just need to inform the package manager that the package is removed, so you can use apt again
[14:58] <relipse> won't work rory
[14:58] <relipse> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/3fGgbSwe/
[15:01] <rory> what if you stop the service using the WSL method: service elasticsearch stop
[15:01] <rory> then maybe the removal script will skip the step that's failing
[15:03] <relipse> $ sudo service elasticsearch stop
[15:03] <relipse> elasticsearch: unrecognized service
[15:09] <relipse> rory: ...
[15:11] <longshanks> hi all. how do I fix 'LoadImage filed: Not found' on boot? I've 'fixed' it for now by copying grubx64.efi to shimx64.efi but 1) that's not really fixing the issue its' working around it 2) next time i have  kernel update (like today) it will break again
[15:12] <longshanks> s/filed/failed
[15:17] <leftyfb> longshanks: what version of ubuntu? Is this a fresh install? Did you always have this issue?
[15:24] <nunya> sometimes the panel shows a program open that I have just closed. When I check terminal with ps -a that program is not listed. Why? and how do I get this to stop happening?
[15:24] <longshanks> leftyfb: 20.10. Fresh installed 20.04-LTS and upgraded to 20.10 as there were some fixes for variou things that I wanted. The system doesn't have SecureBoot enabled. I came across this page https://askubuntu.com/questions/1279602/ubuntu-20-04-failed-to-set-moklistrt-invalid-parameter. This seems to be the problem. So I followed the advice (cp grubx64.efi shimx64.efi). This works until there's a new
[15:24] <longshanks> kernel. So I tried the more long term fix sudo apt remove --purge shim shim-signed, and deleted the shim that I had copied and it failed to boot. So booted from USB and copied grubx64.efi to shimx64.efi again to boot
[15:25] <longshanks> I think it worked fine until I upraded to 20.10.
[15:25] <nunya> Also I right click on the panel to close and it gives me force quit option so I click force quit yet icon is still there.
[15:33] <longshanks> leftyfb: any ideas?
[15:40] <TJ-> longshanks: if you've removed the shimx64.efi file and not updated the motherboard's boot entry then it is guaranteed to fail. Have you re-run grub-install since removing the shim package?
[15:41] <TJ-> longshanks: grub-install on UEFI calls efibootmgr ... if that is failing then that explains everything you've seen
[15:42] <TJ-> longshanks: in which case you can reduce the problem to reproducing just the 'efibootmgr' command grub issues and seeing if you can make it succeed. You can capture that command in a log using "sudo grub-install -v |& tee /tmp/grub-install.log" then do "grep -C5  efibootmgr /tmp/grub-install.log"
[15:44] <longshanks> TJ-: I've never run grub-install even once. I've never had to. Presumabky it's run for me each time there's a kernel update? Is there a way to re-run it but with the options last used (as I don't know what options to use otherwise, since i've never run it)
[15:45] <TJ-> longshanks: use the command as I showed above
[15:45] <longshanks> I'm happy to try that command.
[15:49] <longshanks> TJ-: command ran successfuly. No mention of eftibootmgr in the logs
[15:49] <longshanks> "Installation finished. No error reported."
[15:51] <longshanks> So perhaps it now just works and I should reboot to test? Was just an old efivar entry for the previous (wrong) values that needed updating to the new ones ?
[15:52] <nunya> sometimes the panel shows a program open that I have just closed. When I check terminal with ps -a that program is not listed. Why? and how do I get this to stop happening? I googled and found how to fix applications not showing in the panel but can't seem to find the opposite case.
[15:52] <nuala> d'uh .-. https://askubuntu.com/questions/1066420/auto-hiding-the-dock-covers-the-desktop-icons
[15:53]  * longshanks reboots
[15:56] <longshanks> TJ-: Yup. That did the trick. However it has stoked my curiosity. How come efibootmgr isn't mentioned once in the logs?
[16:01] <nunya> Hexchat keeps blinking every time someone sends a message. I looked at my preferences and I have it set to blink on private messages. I only want it to blink when someone sends a message specifically to me. Is there something in preferences I overlooked?
[16:02] <TJ-> longshanks: depends on which logs :) it's called internally by grub-install. It tells the motherboard where to add the boot entry and sets it as the default
[16:03] <nunya> I tried unticking blink on private message the re-ticking it. I'll try closing and restarting Hexchat.
[16:04] <longshanks> TJ-: Ah I mean the log I wrote to via your command suggestion. Command ran fine I'm just curious how my system is even booting in efi mode without grub-efi installed. But it is :)
[16:04] <coconut> nunya, settings > preferences > chatting > alerts > tick a few you like
[16:05] <TJ-> longshanks: grub-efi-amd64-bin
Did that. Didn't work. That's why I asked the question. Thanks any way.
[16:05] <longshanks> TJ-: I only have ii  grub-efi-amd64-bin    2.04-1ubuntu35.4 , which I guess is enough
[16:06] <longshanks> TJ-: well thanks for your help. I was going to re-install the kernel via apt install --reinstall as I guessed that would just run grub again , but grub-install as you suggested did the trick - cheers :)
[16:07] <TJ-> longshanks: grub-efi is a meta-package that Depends: on the appropriate packages required
[16:07] <longshanks> TJ-: ah. gotcha.
[16:10] <nunya> I think something in Hexchat gui is not actually changing config to honor my blink on private message preference Anyone know where the config file is and what the configuration line should be?
[16:12] <ash123> anyone using ubuntu 20.04.2 on amd processor (ryzen 5)?
[16:13] <ash123> I am seeing some strange logs in "logs" application. I want to understand them and check if its possible to fix those.
[16:16] <ash123> e.g. "tpm_crb MSFT0101:00: [Firmware Bug]: ACPI region does not cover the entire command/response buffer. [mem 0xcd590000-0xcd590fff flags 0x200] vs cd590000 4000"
[16:16] <nunya> I just checked and it looks like Hexhat configs are in /home/nunya/.config/hexchat All the .conf files have contents except notify.conf is empty.
[16:16] <marenz> g'day
[16:17] <marenz> Can I bundle my wlan & lan connection while still using the network manager for all the heavy lifting?
[16:29] <coconut> nunya, my /home/user/.config/hexchat/notify.conf is empty too..., so i think the notify config is somewhere in /home/user/.config/hexchat/hexchat.conf. Don't know where though.
ok I'll look through it with find and see if private is in there.
[16:31] <relipse> rory: did you disappear?
Changed blink with private message in hexchat gui. I only have blink with private message ticked. It changed hexchat.conf  line from input_flash_priv = 0 to input_flash_priv = 1 Still blinks in my panel every time someone messages anyone else. Weird!
[16:38] <nunya> Ok going to look for hexchat channel to deal with this since it's not really an ubuntu issue.
[16:39] <coconut> weird nunya, my hexchat just works here...
[16:45] <mort> What's up with the thing where packages lie about their version numbers?
[16:45] <mort> like I just installed nmap 7.91+dfsg1+really7.80+dfsg1-1, it claims to be 7.91 but is really 7.80
[16:46] <mort> I had big issues with this with nvidia drivers too, where ubuntu's package lied so that apt would install the old ubuntu driver version rather than the newer version from a ppa
[16:49] <lotuspsychje> mort: your ubuntu version?
[16:50] <mort> the 21.04 dev release right now, but my nvidia driver issues were with 20.10 iirc
[16:51] <lotuspsychje> mort: #ubuntu+1 for 21.04 issues please
[16:51] <mort> but this isn't a 21.04 issue
[16:51] <nunya>  <coconut>if you right-click on the channel in the channel tree and go to Extra Alerts, make sure "beep , blink on message" is not checked. Not an intuitive approach having this seperate from settings. Hopefully redesigned by Hexchat developers in the future. If I was a programmer I would move that feature or remove that feature at least from my own Hexchat app.
[16:51] <mort> not exclusively
[16:52] <ioria> mort, did you notice the 'really7.80' part ?
[16:53] <mort> ioria: yes
[16:53] <ioria> i's used when a package needs to be rolled back
[16:54] <mort> hmm, seems like a fairly bad way to roll back packages doesn't it?
[16:54] <mort> since it will be preferred over packages which are actually newer
[16:54] <nunya> Ok. One out of 2 issues solved. Now back to google some more about closed applications still showing in panel/dock.
[16:56] <mort> like how I spent ages trying to install a newer nvidia driver from the graphics-drivers ppa because the version in ubuntu's repos had a more recent version number even though they were really an older driver
Thanks for trying to help. Hopefully the answer I found about right click channel>extra alerts helps someone.
[16:57] <lotuspsychje> mort: ubuntu-drivers list, to the rescue
could you wait about 5 seconds and then send a message to me so I can test whether it's working like I want? Thanks in advance.
[17:02] <coconut> nunya, sure
 I think because you didn't ha < > around my name it didn't treat it as private. Would you mind trying 1 more time with the brackets?
[17:05] <eelstrebor> how does one backup the users before doing a fresh/clean  install?
Perfect thanks! It worked!
[17:06] <coconut> yw
Muchhos appreciados!
[17:06] <coconut> lol
[17:07] <eelstrebor> i'm not talking about home directories but for system login and mail storage on /var
[17:10] <eelstrebor> i've done fresh installs in the past but restoring the user postfix mail box in /var/mail is always corrupted - wrong user ownership - takes a lot of time to correct this issue
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> !backup | eelstrebor
[17:11] <lotuspsychje> !borg | eelstrebor
[17:16] <eelstrebor> i need to do more than backup the /home partition - that's easy
[17:20] <amicrawler> having a issue with 20.04
[17:20] <amicrawler> when logging out
[17:21] <amicrawler> click log out will not
[17:21] <amicrawler> have to ctrl
[17:21] <amicrawler> ctrl alt backspace to return to login
[17:21] <amicrawler> any ideas why this is happeing
[17:22] <amicrawler> have not see anything on the threads
[17:23]  * eelstrebor tried backing up /var/mail and then restore after the fresh install only to find the user ownership totally messed up 
[18:53] <Elodin> what's the proper way to configure networking on ubuntu many many guides over
[18:54] <lotuspsychje> Elodin: elaborate what you are trying to do please, on wich ubuntu release?
[19:33] <brimestone> Hey guys, I'm running a webserver on ubuntu server 20 and last few weeks, I been getting a lot of injection attempts (seems like mostly coming from holland and Russia) is there a took to automatically block these type of connections?
[19:35] <sarnold> mod_security or mod_security2 or something claims to offer such a thing; please do poke around a bit to make sure they don't add more problems than they address
[19:37] <brimestone> thanks
[19:38] <leftyfb> brimestone: also looks at fail2ban
[19:38] <tdannecy9> Does anybody get a lot of spam DMs from users in this channel?
[19:39] <leftyfb> tdannecy9: please ask in #freenode. It has nothing to do with this channel
[19:39] <tdannecy9> leftyfb: Right o will do
[19:40] <rory> brimestone, this type of software is called Web Application Firewall (WAF) if it helps your researching
[19:40] <brimestone> thanks.. I know with regular Firewall, I have the option to constantly download "known" bad ip and automatically block them
[19:41] <rory> yeah, regular firewall will let you block IPs, countries etc at the networking level. WAF will inspect the HTTP traffic and identify things like injection attempts.
[19:42] <brimestone> Yes, that what I need..
[19:42] <brimestone> WAF eh..
[19:42] <summonner> tdannecy9, there was a broadcast earlier from the admins. they said to apply +R to your user modes to block it
[19:42] <rory> ModSecurity is the de facto standard open source WAF for Apache
[19:43] <rory> It probably takes some careful setting up to be useful though, I've never used it.
[19:54] <tdannecy9> summonner: Thanks! I will check out the MOTD for Freenode
[20:02] <Intelo> I forgot user name and password of a virtualbox based ubuntu server machine. What are my options /
[20:02] <Intelo> ?
[20:04] <tekHneEk> hey! I have a PCIe 3.0 USB adapter that supports USB 3.2 gen 2x2 and I have plugged in a WD P50 2TB hard drive to it but when I list USB devices I'm showing that the hub supports 10000M and the HD is listed as using UAS driver at 5000M, is there something I'm doing wrong/need to do differently in order to gain full speed capability on this drive with the host adapter? From what I've read it should just
[20:04] <tekHneEk> "work" but we all know how that goes. Any help is much appreciated!
[20:04] <tekHneEk> Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS
[20:05] <sarnold> Intelo: if you've well and truly forgotten the username / ssh key / password for the system, this can do the trick https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[20:08] <brimestone> Thanks guys!
[20:18] <Intelo> sarnold: I might guess username but not the password
[20:18] <amicrawler> does ubuntu support fiber cards
[20:25] <sarnold> amicrawler: yes; check the /boot/config-* files to see the kernel config options that are enabled to help figure out which cards are supported
[20:26] <amicrawler> ok
[20:26] <amicrawler> was thinking going 10GB network
[20:26] <amicrawler> im on 1GB now
[20:35] <sarnold> amicrawler: hah, yeah, I've been thinking about picking up used infiniband stuff off ebay..
[20:36] <tekHneEk> anyone know of a good resource to compare pcie 3.0 usb adapter compatability w/ verions of ubuntu? googles pretty slim w/ info regarding getting usb 3.2 gen2x2 working on ubuntu
[20:38] <Intelo> sarnold: ho, i just went to recovery mode and just reset the password by `passwd userhere`. So this means anyone can change my password if he gets hands on my computer ? :)
[20:43] <xamua> anyone with physical access to the computer can do whatever they like...yes.
[20:45] <sarnold> Intelo: yes
[20:45] <sarnold> Intelo: you can use full disk encryption if you want to prevent that, but if you forget *that* password you're in big trouble :)
[21:08] <Intelo> hm
[21:08] <Intelo> ok
[21:50] <funabashi> Hi all , i wonder if there are any GUI for LDAP ?
[21:51] <Intelo> ubuntu has python <3? YouCompleteMe requires Python >= 3.6.0; your version of Python is 2.7.18 (default, Aug  4 2020, 11:16:42)
[21:51] <Intelo> what should I do?
[21:52] <leftyfb> Intelo: use python3
[21:52] <Intelo> how?
[21:52] <Intelo> How to install py3?
[21:52] <leftyfb> Intelo: what version of ubuntu?
[21:52] <Intelo> 20 lts
[21:53] <leftyfb> Intelo: 20.04
[21:54] <leftyfb> Intelo: python3 is installed by default. If you've got python 2 you had to have installed that yourself
[21:55] <Intelo> leftyfb: seems I have both and default one is 2
[21:55] <Intelo> how do I get rid of it?
[21:56] <leftyfb> Intelo: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/410579/change-the-python3-default-version-in-ubuntu
[22:00] <Intelo> leftyfb: thanks!
[22:10] <oerheks> !info python-is-python3
[22:34] <Aavar> Hi. I'm sorry to "ask to ask", but can one of you help me set up YADM? I think I am having trouble understanding git... When I run "yadm push -u origin master" I get an error "error: src refspec master does not match any" and "error: failed to push some refs to 'URL'"
[22:38] <sarnold> yadm looks kinda cool
[22:42] <oerheks> sarnold, indeed.. https://yadm.io/#
[22:43] <chev> hello, im studying for my LPIC1 test. In doing so, I want to learn to use dpkg. I am running ubuntu server. I can see that dpkg exists, but it doesnt seem to be enabled? Im getting the error dkpg not found
[22:43] <chev> I'm used to using apt
[22:44] <oerheks> apt for retrieving packages from the mirror, dpkg for installing package which resides locally
[22:44] <chev> ohhh
[22:44] <chev> so where would i find a deb package to download?
[22:45] <chev> I tried ls -l *.deb as the book suggest, but nothing returns. Perhaps Ineed to be in a different directory.
[22:46] <Aavar> sarnold, oerheks: I believe part of my error was using "master" instead of "main" but it still gives me the same error...
[22:46] <oerheks> launchpad, = ours, or any foreign site, like google chrome > wget https://dl.google.com/linux/direct/google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb
[22:47] <chev> oh ok, i get it.
[22:47] <chev> so apt and dpkg are both package managers, but dpkg is for when its on the drive, whereas apt is from the site
[22:47] <oerheks> chev, yes.
[22:48] <TJ-> chev: also, 'apt' understands and can ensure dependencies are installed and conflicts removed
[22:48] <chev> why doesnt ls -l *.deb work?
[22:49] <oerheks> chev, are you in the folder where the deb is written?
[22:49] <oerheks> cd Downloads # most likely
[22:52] <TJ-> chev: .deb files don't exist unless a) apt tooling fetches them from the ubuntu repository (into /var/cache/apt/archives/ locally) or you manually download the file in which case it'll be where-ever the tool you use puts them (browsers generally put files in $HOME/Downloads )
[22:52] <chev> got it
[22:58] <padge> Is there anyone here who can help with a snap problem?
[23:01] <oerheks> padge, sure there are, ask wait and see
[23:01] <padge> Full disclosure, I'm using Arch. I'm only asking here because snapd is a Canonical project and it seems like the world is a little short on experts.
[23:02] <leftyfb> padge: try #snappy
[23:02] <leftyfb> padge: otherwise seek support from Arch
[23:03] <padge> Alright, I'll ask around in #snappy, then #archlinux (#arch is for some version control system)
[23:03] <padge> leftyfb: Thanks for your help
[23:06] <oerheks> still don't know what your issue is ..
[23:08] <Aavar> oerheks: Can you help me with yadm?
[23:14] <oerheks> Aavar, nope, never heard of this before ..
[23:15] <oerheks> i am as blue as you :-D
[23:19] <Aavar> oerheks: Ahh :) OK
[23:37] <robert45> hi guys, Im facing this problem when trying to dist upgrade from Ubuntu 18 to Ubuntu 20, does anyone know how to fix this? https://dpaste.org/OKqq
[23:37] <robert45> Unfortunately pressing yes goes back to the same window. I checked sources.list and I can see its already with focal entries
[23:38] <sarnold> robert45: try grep -r eoan /etc  -- that might help you spot what's going on
[23:39] <robert45> sarnold, Thanks. I just ran the command, it didnt return any results
[23:41] <sarnold> robert45: very strange.. I wonder where eoan is coming from..
[23:43] <robert45> I think it could be coming from /usr/share/ubuntu-release-upgrader/DistUpgrade.cfg
[23:45] <sarnold> hmm, my focal machine does mention eoan in there, too. how very curious.
[23:46] <sarnold> robert45: what does dpkg -l bash  report ?
[23:47] <robert45> sarnold, ii  bash           5.0-6ubuntu1.1 amd64        GNU Bourne Again SHell
[23:47] <sarnold> that's 20.04's version of bash, anyway..
[23:48] <sarnold> how about dpkg -l libc6 ?
[23:48] <robert45> ii  libc6:amd64    2.31-0ubuntu9.2 amd64        GNU C Library: Shared libraries
[23:48] <sarnold> okay, that's also focal..
[23:48] <sarnold> lsb_release -a ?
[23:48] <sarnold> I'm starting to think you've already upgraded :)
[23:49] <sarnold> how about uname -a ?
[23:49] <robert45> yes, it showing also Ubuntu 20.
[23:49] <robert45> But I cant get out of the installer, even by pressing yes or no. I keep getting back to this question
[23:50] <robert45> sarnold, uname -a shows 4.15.0-50-generic
[23:50] <robert45> Is this a Ubuntu 20 kernel ?
[23:51] <rdr> no that would be 18.04's
[23:51] <robert45> I think that is because I havent rebooted it yet
[23:51] <robert45> I think Im going to force reboot this server and pray to god :/
[23:51] <rdr> 20.04 is 5.4.+ and can be upgraded to 5.8
[23:52] <sarnold> ^C will probably close this thing..
[23:52] <sarnold> a reboot sounds like a good idea. And good luck. it's strange indeed :/
[23:58] <robert45> ok it seems it has rebooted fine but its still running with old kernel and some apt errors, any ideas? https://dpaste.org/JUFv