| Eickmeyer[m] | RikMills: Proposal: How would you feel if I helped out by working on the backports PPA? Offering because my day job would basically pay me to do it. | 00:24 |
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| BluesKaj | Hi folks | 13:08 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer[m]: backport what to what release? | 14:38 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | RikMills: Oh, all of Plasma, newer applications, etc. to Focal via the Kubuntu backports PPA. | 15:08 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer[m]: plasma is not backportable, as requires newer Qt than in focal | 15:09 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That's not 100% accurate. Neon did it, and they only have one additional repository. | 15:10 |
| RikMills | we cannot put and maintain new Qt in the backports PPA | 15:11 |
| RikMills | if you want to build new Qt, rebuild all the archive packages that depend on the new Qt abi, then that will have to be somewhere else | 15:12 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Ok, what's the reason why not? | 15:13 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> @Eickmeyer[m], I would like to discuss this later, when I have time :) | 15:14 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> are you both going to be available tomorrow? | 15:14 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I should be, but I'm US Pacific time. | 15:15 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> that shoudln't be a problem | 15:15 |
| RikMills | the backports ppa is for KDE things that can be safely backported using the native release stack | 15:18 |
| RikMills | I have no issue with creating another PPA to do qt+backports | 15:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> it doesn't have to be that way, it's just that we coudln't do something better | 15:19 |
| RikMills | point being that that would be an additional 'opt in' | 15:19 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> anyway let's discuss this calmly later, because I have important things to do now :) | 15:20 |
| * RikMills is calm | 15:20 | |
| * Eickmeyer[m] /me is also calm | 15:20 | |
| IrcsomeBot | <Eickmeyer> Just saying I'd be willing to take this on. | 15:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> of course you are, I actually meant something like "when I have time" haha | 15:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Santa> I'm @ paid work right now | 15:21 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer[m]: if we do this as an additional add on ppa, then I would be delighted if you did | 15:21 |
| IrcsomeBot | <Eickmeyer> I'll be at paid work in about 4-ish hours. | 15:21 |
| RikMills | it is something I would like to do, but have not the time | 15:22 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I mean, that does sound like a good plan. | 15:22 |
| RikMills | so if you can do it AND get paid, then win win | 15:22 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | It'd at least be something. We've got customers wondering why we can't have nice things. 😂 | 15:23 |
| RikMills | well a qt+backports ppa sounds like it would serve both the more adventurous kubuntu user, and Focus ones drooling over the new plasma | 15:24 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | RikMills: It would also allow for the newer applications, not just Plasma. | 16:27 |
| RikMills | Yes. I mentioned plasma off the bat, as that is the thing that got the most aggressive dependency bumps by the KDE devs, and is most asked about | 16:29 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Yeah, that's fair. | 16:30 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | It'd have to be a fairly large PPA, so we'd have to go to the Launchpad team about that. | 16:31 |
| RikMills | they are usually good about that. I have bumped ours a few times. IIRC backports is now 80GB | 16:33 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I can imagine this newer PPA being about that size. | 16:33 |
| RikMills | also you may not need to build binaries for all arches the archive does | 16:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | That's true. Probably stick with just amd64. | 16:34 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | In order for this to work, though, I'd have to be added to the team along with PPA upload rights. | 16:35 |
| RikMills | that can be arranged we have a team called kubuntu-ninjas, that grants PPA rights | 16:36 |
| * RikMills looks at that very wrong comma placement | 16:36 | |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Cool. | 16:36 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Nobody's English is perfect. XD | 16:36 |
| RikMills | https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#.7Ekubuntu-ninjas | 16:37 |
| RikMills | my English should be better than that! | 16:38 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | So, TL;DR: Introduce myself to the ML and throw my qualifications on (MOTU, etc.) and what-not. | 16:40 |
| RikMills | Eickmeyer[m]: also the 'Long Term Support (LTS)' in that wiki page states our normal ppa backports policy | 16:40 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | I see. | 16:41 |
| RikMills | other option would be to create some other team for this, and a PPA under that | 16:44 |
| RikMills | we can discuss options tomorrow | 16:44 |
| Eickmeyer[m] | Sounds good. In the meantime, I'll throw an email at the ML. | 16:45 |
| RikMills | yeah, you may as well, no matter what | 16:45 |
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