[00:24] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Proposal: How would you feel if I helped out by working on the backports PPA? Offering because my day job would basically pay me to do it.
[13:08] <BluesKaj> Hi folks
[14:38] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: backport what to what release?
[15:08] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: Oh, all of Plasma, newer applications, etc. to Focal via the Kubuntu backports PPA.
[15:09] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: plasma is not backportable, as requires newer Qt than in focal
[15:10] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's not 100% accurate. Neon did it, and they only have one additional repository.
[15:11] <RikMills> we cannot put and maintain new Qt in the backports PPA
[15:12] <RikMills> if you want to build new Qt, rebuild all the archive packages that depend on the new Qt abi, then that will have to be somewhere else
[15:13] <Eickmeyer[m]> Ok, what's the reason why not?
 @Eickmeyer[m], I would like to discuss this later, when I have time :)
 are you both going to be available tomorrow?
[15:15] <Eickmeyer[m]> I should be, but I'm US Pacific time.
 that shoudln't be a problem
[15:18] <RikMills> the backports ppa is for KDE things that can be safely backported using the native release stack
[15:19] <RikMills> I have no issue with creating another PPA to do qt+backports
 it doesn't have to be that way, it's just that we coudln't do something better
[15:19] <RikMills> point being that that would be an additional 'opt in'
 anyway let's discuss this calmly later, because I have important things to do now :)
[15:20]  * RikMills is calm
[15:20]  * Eickmeyer[m] /me is also calm
 Just saying I'd be willing to take this on.
 of course you are, I actually meant something like "when I have time" haha
 I'm @ paid work right now
[15:21] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: if we do this as an additional add on ppa, then I would be delighted if you did
 I'll be at paid work in about 4-ish hours.
[15:22] <RikMills> it is something I would like to do, but have not the time
[15:22] <Eickmeyer[m]> I mean, that does sound like a good plan.
[15:22] <RikMills> so if you can do it AND get paid, then win win
[15:23] <Eickmeyer[m]> It'd at least be something. We've got customers wondering why we can't have nice things. 😂
[15:24] <RikMills> well a qt+backports ppa sounds like it would serve both the more adventurous kubuntu user, and Focus ones drooling over the new plasma 
[16:27] <Eickmeyer[m]> RikMills: It would also allow for the newer applications, not just Plasma.
[16:29] <RikMills> Yes. I mentioned plasma off the bat, as that is the thing that got the most aggressive dependency bumps by the KDE devs, and is most asked about
[16:30] <Eickmeyer[m]> Yeah, that's fair.
[16:31] <Eickmeyer[m]> It'd have to be a fairly large PPA, so we'd have to go to the Launchpad team about that.
[16:33] <RikMills> they are usually good about that. I have bumped ours a few times. IIRC backports is now 80GB
[16:33] <Eickmeyer[m]> I can imagine this newer PPA being about that size.
[16:34] <RikMills> also you may not need to build binaries for all arches the archive does
[16:34] <Eickmeyer[m]> That's true. Probably stick with just amd64.
[16:35] <Eickmeyer[m]> In order for this to work, though, I'd have to be added to the team along with PPA upload rights.
[16:36] <RikMills> that can be arranged we have a team called kubuntu-ninjas, that grants PPA rights
[16:36]  * RikMills looks at that very wrong comma placement
[16:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> Cool.
[16:36] <Eickmeyer[m]> Nobody's English is perfect. XD
[16:37] <RikMills> https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#.7Ekubuntu-ninjas
[16:38] <RikMills> my English should be better than that!
[16:40] <Eickmeyer[m]> So, TL;DR: Introduce myself to the ML and throw my qualifications on (MOTU, etc.) and what-not.
[16:40] <RikMills> Eickmeyer[m]: also the 'Long Term Support (LTS)' in that wiki page states our normal ppa backports policy
[16:41] <Eickmeyer[m]> I see.
[16:44] <RikMills> other option would be to create some other team for this, and a PPA under that
[16:44] <RikMills> we can discuss options tomorrow
[16:45] <Eickmeyer[m]> Sounds good. In the meantime, I'll throw an email at the ML.
[16:45] <RikMills> yeah, you may as well, no matter what