[00:24] RikMills: Proposal: How would you feel if I helped out by working on the backports PPA? Offering because my day job would basically pay me to do it. [13:08] Hi folks [14:38] Eickmeyer[m]: backport what to what release? [15:08] RikMills: Oh, all of Plasma, newer applications, etc. to Focal via the Kubuntu backports PPA. [15:09] Eickmeyer[m]: plasma is not backportable, as requires newer Qt than in focal [15:10] That's not 100% accurate. Neon did it, and they only have one additional repository. [15:11] we cannot put and maintain new Qt in the backports PPA [15:12] if you want to build new Qt, rebuild all the archive packages that depend on the new Qt abi, then that will have to be somewhere else [15:13] Ok, what's the reason why not? [15:14] @Eickmeyer[m], I would like to discuss this later, when I have time :) [15:14] are you both going to be available tomorrow? [15:15] I should be, but I'm US Pacific time. [15:15] that shoudln't be a problem [15:18] the backports ppa is for KDE things that can be safely backported using the native release stack [15:19] I have no issue with creating another PPA to do qt+backports [15:19] it doesn't have to be that way, it's just that we coudln't do something better [15:19] point being that that would be an additional 'opt in' [15:20] anyway let's discuss this calmly later, because I have important things to do now :) [15:20] * RikMills is calm [15:20] * Eickmeyer[m] /me is also calm [15:21] Just saying I'd be willing to take this on. [15:21] of course you are, I actually meant something like "when I have time" haha [15:21] I'm @ paid work right now [15:21] Eickmeyer[m]: if we do this as an additional add on ppa, then I would be delighted if you did [15:21] I'll be at paid work in about 4-ish hours. [15:22] it is something I would like to do, but have not the time [15:22] I mean, that does sound like a good plan. [15:22] so if you can do it AND get paid, then win win [15:23] It'd at least be something. We've got customers wondering why we can't have nice things. 😂 [15:24] well a qt+backports ppa sounds like it would serve both the more adventurous kubuntu user, and Focus ones drooling over the new plasma [16:27] RikMills: It would also allow for the newer applications, not just Plasma. [16:29] Yes. I mentioned plasma off the bat, as that is the thing that got the most aggressive dependency bumps by the KDE devs, and is most asked about [16:30] Yeah, that's fair. [16:31] It'd have to be a fairly large PPA, so we'd have to go to the Launchpad team about that. [16:33] they are usually good about that. I have bumped ours a few times. IIRC backports is now 80GB [16:33] I can imagine this newer PPA being about that size. [16:34] also you may not need to build binaries for all arches the archive does [16:34] That's true. Probably stick with just amd64. [16:35] In order for this to work, though, I'd have to be added to the team along with PPA upload rights. [16:36] that can be arranged we have a team called kubuntu-ninjas, that grants PPA rights [16:36] * RikMills looks at that very wrong comma placement [16:36] Cool. [16:36] Nobody's English is perfect. XD [16:37] https://community.kde.org/Kubuntu/Policies#.7Ekubuntu-ninjas [16:38] my English should be better than that! [16:40] So, TL;DR: Introduce myself to the ML and throw my qualifications on (MOTU, etc.) and what-not. [16:40] Eickmeyer[m]: also the 'Long Term Support (LTS)' in that wiki page states our normal ppa backports policy [16:41] I see. [16:44] other option would be to create some other team for this, and a PPA under that [16:44] we can discuss options tomorrow [16:45] Sounds good. In the meantime, I'll throw an email at the ML. [16:45] yeah, you may as well, no matter what