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ubptgbot<Fuseteam> bluescreen?! that's new 👀01:18
ubptgbot<K31j0> I'm sending it off to warranty since it does that when I connect audio jack and play audio through it as well..01:26
ubptgbot<K31j0> Probably board ded01:26
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> welp01:26
ubptgbot<K31j0> I just hope I won't have to wait a week01:27
ubptgbot<K31j0> for bootloader unlock01:27
ubptgbot<K31j0> again01:27
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> yeah some of these things are somewhat annoying01:27
ubptgbot<K31j0> Sometime I just want to get a pixel, because their low level software doesn't suck as bad01:28
ubptgbot<K31j0> I installed the newest stable factory rom to verify that it still works01:28
ubptgbot<K31j0> it works01:28
ubptgbot<K31j0> and when I restored my backup with older rom it doesn't boot01:28
ubptgbot<K31j0> pesky rollback protection01:28
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> oh my01:28
ubptgbot<K31j0> Now I will try dirty flashing the newest rom on top of the backup since I don't have time or patience to set up everything from scratch01:29
ubptgbot<K31j0> maybe I'll just actually get a fairphone3 or a pixel since some of those chinese devices shouldn't have ever existed with that kind of poor engineering01:30
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> Hello , I succesfully installed Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 501:35
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> should it automatically pick up a wireless mouse hooked up to a usb hub?01:36
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VBV1PY5/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=101:39
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DV98R7/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=101:39
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089M7WSHM/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=101:39
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> this is the hardware Im using01:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> uhhh not sure we have wireless usb mouse drivers, but i believe bluetooth mice work find and wired usb mice works fine01:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @K31j0 [maybe I'll just actually get a fairphone3 or a pixel since some of those chinese …], hmm maybe but do be sure to check the devices page for known issues01:41
ubptgbot<K31j0> @Fuseteam [hmm maybe but do be sure to check the devices page for known issues], If it can receive calls I'm more than happy to buy it after today's adventure xD01:42
ubptgbot<K31j0> I wonder if it'll receive calls on stock now01:42
ubptgbot<K31j0> maybe I've killed it01:42
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> it is not that easy to kill it tho :p01:42
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> hmmm01:42
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> if its linux there should be a way on the terminal right? lol01:43
ubptgbot<K31j0> If board was ded from the beginning I should've expected that tbh01:43
ubptgbot只想静静 was added by: 只想静静01:48
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Commander Revan [if its linux there should be a way on the terminal right? lol], well yes it is linux but its also not traditional linux01:51
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> right I get it, probably easier if I just get a wireless mouse02:08
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> or i mean bluetooth02:08
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> is there any way to fix the double icon thing when you install android apps?02:08
ubptgbot<Remy> ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium 7.1 source. i used the ubuntu windows app. i want to install but i dont have an actual ubuntu computer so the installer download wint work02:40
ubptgbot<Remy> any suggestions02:48
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Commander Revan [is there any way to fix the double icon thing when you install android apps?], you can refresh the drawer i think02:53
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Remy [ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium …], if you build it yourself the installer will likely not work yet, most people who can answer your question are in the porting group tho02:54
ubptgbot<iminlovewith> sorry to interrupt ... what about my redmi 8a?02:59
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> @Fuseteam [if you build it yourself the installer will likely not work yet, most people who …], this isnt the porting group?03:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Commander Revan [this isnt the porting group?], this is the main group the porting group is at @ubports_porting03:05
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> sorry about that03:05
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> thank you03:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @iminlovewith [sorry to interrupt ... what about my redmi 8a?], that has to be ported afaik03:05
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Commander Revan [sorry about that], no worries03:05
ubptgbot<iminlovewith> ok thnx03:07
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ubptgbot<s3cretsauce> @Remy [ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium …], as a last resort you can run an Ubuntu vm with the installer07:10
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ubptgbot<Ted Rendol> I have a problem. nexus 5 great for convergence.OPO great wireless coverrgence, audio video.OP 3T dual sim, fast. I need a big bag for my UT devices :) ;-)13:48
ubptgbot<alexander_schoch> Silly question about the lock screen: … What do the dots (filled/empty) and the semi-circles around mean?15:03
ubptgbot<dohbee> empty are remaining days in month, filled are past days. circles emanating from them are indicative of amount of activity for current infographic topic (which you can change by double-tapping on the label in center)15:06
ubptgbot<alexander_schoch> Oh, nice … Thanks for explainig15:07
ubptgbotRupert Fuentes was added by: Rupert Fuentes15:35
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> the UT lock screen is still the best I've ever seen, so much information packed into a really nice graphic15:55
ubptgbot<Rupert Fuentes> Tesla giving Bitcoin and Ethereum! Ohh big news!  https://bit.ly/3uzE0zo15:56
ubptgbot<dohbee> a bit too confusing though as-is.15:57
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> (Photo, 360x640) https://irc.ubports.com/vBbL0Ycw.png I really like the lock screen, especially combined with a background that emphasizes the circle.16:01
ubptgbot<K31j0> I didn't know about that circle. Is there a maintainer of teleports here?16:09
ubptgbotEsperantistoLuizClaudio was added by: EsperantistoLuizClaudio16:12
ubptgbot<EsperantistoLuizClaudio> Hi !16:13
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @PiecerEdd [the UT lock screen is still the best I've ever seen, so much information packed …], I like it but personally, I think it's more of a novelty and can be more useful 😄16:14
ubptgbotkawumm was added by: kawumm16:22
ubptgbot<kawumm> Hi there … I am new to ubuntu Touch and have just installed it on a Sony xperia x Compact. Is here the correct Channel to get some advice?16:29
ubptgbot<Javacookies> yes, this is the main group for UT16:43
ubptgbot<Javacookies> anyone with Nexus 5, is it also hard for you to trigger selection mode (double-tap) on the OSK?16:44
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Javacookies [anyone with Nexus 5, is it also hard for you to trigger selection mode (double-t …], i don't think it is specific to nexus 516:52
ubptgbot<dohbee> the more you do it, it seems to get more difficult to switch between the two modes16:52
ubptgbot<Javacookies> well in all my devices, it generally works fine but it's extra hard on my Nexus 5. But I agree, it needs to be improved.16:55
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> Is there a reason the lock screen passcode is limited to 4 digits?16:57
ubptgbot<dohbee> it's a technical limitation of the design. could certainly be fixed to support longer ones17:02
ubptgbot<Javacookies> so it's probably a bit trivial to support longer ones? … I would prefer at least 6 digits too17:04
ubptgbot<dohbee> don't know if "trivial" is the right term17:05
ubptgbot<dohbee> but it's certainly doable17:05
ubptgbot<kawumm> Okay. So i have an issue with my sim card on the xperia x compact. The sim card is not detected by the device. I tried two different sim cards and tried them in another phone also. Is there anything else i can check? … thanks17:05
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> That sounds like a hardware issue to be honest.17:06
ubptgbot<kawumm> Mhmm ... phone worked with with the original android os17:07
ubptgbot<kawumm> There is also no imei shown in the device info screen ...17:11
ubptgbot<kawumm> Is that normal on ut?17:12
ubptgbot<K31j0> Did you try to reflash stock OS?17:12
ubptgbot<K31j0> that might be some issue with vendor image/firmware in general17:13
ubptgbot<K31j0> it seems like your modem doesn't init at all17:13
ubptgbot<K31j0> it should show IMEI without simcard even17:13
ubptgbot<kawumm> No not yet. It hab been a long journey to get ut work on the phone. So i have not flashed it back yet17:14
ubptgbot<K31j0> Maybe the firmware UT installs is from another region17:14
ubptgbot<K31j0> I'd advise you to reflash stock and check if it works there17:15
ubptgbot<kawumm> Okay. Then i will try to flash it with stock os and then try again17:16
ubptgbot<K31j0> It seems it's based on nougat17:19
ubptgbot<K31j0> So I'd just install stock based on nougat if you can get it and try from there17:20
ubptgbot<K31j0> ofc if the modem works on that17:20
ubptgbot<kawumm> It was oreo installed before17:21
ubptgbot<kawumm> Would nougat be better?17:22
ubptgbot<K31j0> Yeah, if you can get it that is17:23
ubptgbot<K31j0> xperias sometimes act funky17:23
ubptgbot<kawumm> 😁👍17:23
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @K31j0 [I didn't know about that circle. Is there a maintainer of teleports here?], yes he is :P not tis not me17:26
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @klaartje_b [<reply to media>], Ooo yes that's cool17:30
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> @Javacookies [so it's probably a bit trivial to support longer ones? … I would prefer at least 6 …], Six would be good17:36
ubptgbot<wayneTBT> Does it need to have a set number, ie could it be down to the user ie 4-8 (min\max)17:38
ubptgbot<K31j0> @Fuseteam [yes he is :P not tis not me], who dis then17:38
ubptgbot<K31j0> I wanted to ask something17:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> just ask he reads the chat :P17:39
ubptgbot<K31j0> I hope :D17:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> he definitely does 😆17:39
ubptgbot<K31j0> Is this based on tdlib or tdlib-json? I've seen some qtdlib in repos but I didn't dig into details17:39
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i've seen him talk about tdlib a lot in the qa room17:40
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> which repos did you check? gitlab?17:40
ubptgbot<K31j0> Yeah17:41
ubptgbot<dohbee> i don't know what `tdlib-json` is but teleports uses `tdlib` for sure17:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> @K31j0 [Yeah], https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/blob/master/.gitmodules#L317:42
ubptgbot<dohbee> `qtdlib` is an internal wrapper library to expose tdlib stuff as `QObject` based things for QML and such17:43
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @K31j0 told ya you would get an answer :P17:44
ubptgbot<K31j0> It doesn't like huge amounts of chats that's for sure17:46
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> not sure tdlib is the issue there, do mean groups channels and personal chats?17:46
ubptgbot<K31j0> yeah17:49
ubptgbot<K31j0> Could also use archive support since it doesn't have it17:50
ubptgbot<K31j0> I'll poke around17:50
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> it will gain archive support yeah17:54
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> Just a quick question about morph browser. Is there any way to add some page to background so music/video can play when i use other applications?18:21
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> applications in general are suspended when in the background to save battery18:23
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> the original intention was to have background media to play through the media hub (that player you see in the sound indicator)18:24
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> currently the work around is to disable suspension of the app in the ubuntu touch tweak tool18:24
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> in my experience it hard to keep track of applications that are not suspended18:25
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @hilledkinged [Just a quick question about morph browser. Is there any way to add some page to …], You can use Webber to create a webapp for that page, and then use UT Tweak Tool to prevent suspension of that webapp18:42
ubptgbot<K31j0> @Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even?18:43
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> @K31j0 [@Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even?], there are some patches18:43
ubptgbot<K31j0> it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is18:43
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> @K31j0 [it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is], ubports-beryllium/unity8-notch-hax18:44
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> github/com/18:44
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> not sure if links are allowed to be shared here18:44
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> @hilledkinged [ubports-beryllium/unity8-notch-hax], its for example18:44
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> @TotalSonic [You can use Webber to create a webapp for that page, and then use UT Tweak Tool …], ok thanks18:45
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @hilledkinged [not sure if links are allowed to be shared here], Pasting complete links is all good here18:45
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> oke18:45
ubptgbot<K31j0> Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files18:46
ubptgbot<hilledkinged> @K31j0 [it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is], the ut tweak worked18:46
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], It just needs a bit more work before it can be merged18:46
ubptgbotvonnie thomas was added by: vonnie thomas18:50
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], Info on applying the current fix for the issue of indicators getting obscured  rounded corners of the Volla here - what is left to be done is figuring out how to make the indicators avoid the middle notch - https://forums.ubports.com/post/4579118:52
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], [Edit] Info on applying the current fix for the issue of indicators getting obscured by the rounded corners of the Volla here - what is left to be done is figuring out how to make the indicators avoid the middle notch - https://forums.ubports.com/post/4579118:52
ubptgbot<vonnie thomas> boomer new to open sourcing.  anyone have experience replacing the motorola razr android os with ubuntu.  hate google/android18:52
ubptgbot<K31j0> @vonnie thomas [boomer new to open sourcing.  anyone have experience replacing the motorola razr …], the flip oled razr?18:53
ubptgbot<vonnie thomas> yes.  i bought the phone strictly for its design.  always been an iphone person.  love the razr, hate the android os and the power of google18:54
ubptgbot<K31j0> Check if it has lineageos18:54
ubptgbot<vonnie thomas> not sure how to do this but will figure it out. if it does or does not then what?18:56
ubptgbot<K31j0> Go on to @ubports_porting and port it18:57
ubptgbot<K31j0> razr is what I'd call an exotic device18:58
ubptgbot<K31j0> and pretty expensive18:58
ubptgbot<K31j0> so I guess it won't get a port suddenly18:58
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @vonnie thomas [not sure how to do this but will figure it out. if it does or does not then what …], That device is not currently supported by Ubuntu Touch so would need to be ported.18:58
ubptgbot<vonnie thomas> thanks..  you guys are great.  glad i found this site.19:01
ubptgbot<Danfro> @K31j0 [I'll poke around], Just check the latest merge in Teleports repo. 😉20:02
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @K31j0 [@Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even?], yes there are some floating with ideas20:16
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @hilledkinged [not sure if links are allowed to be shared here], relevent and related links are fine20:17
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], notches are a bit more complicated but we'll get there20:18
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Danfro [Just check the latest merge in Teleports repo. 😉], archives? really?20:19
ubptgbot<Danfro> At least the backend got merged. Florian is really busy recently doing lots of cool things to Teleports.20:20
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> cool20:21
ubptgbot<vonnie thomas> Well i found out the Motorola flip Razr is not supported on lineageos.  😡 the first one of you young folks that develops a smart phone that doesn't require Apple or Google OS is going to be the next Elon Musk21:35
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> theres a few phones that don't require it and lotss that ship with Android but allow another OS to be installed instead, just depends on your needs/wants21:37
ubptgbot<K31j0> You can skip Google Login on Android21:37
ubptgbot<K31j0> and use FOSS apps21:38
ubptgbot<K31j0> but I know that's probably not what you're after21:38
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> + use Island to freeze all of the apps the OS won't let you uninstall 😆21:38
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> or just disable 'em if possible21:38
ubptgbot<K31j0> Unfortunately alternate oses still require drivers from android and the chip companies are absolute terrible at security21:39
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> yeah thats the annoying part... there aren't many that don't require the Android junk to run UT or another alt OS21:40
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> pine/librem are the obvious ones, I think the Jolla doesn't require Android blobs either but I could be wrong on that (plus y'know that phone is like a bazillion years old at this point)21:40
ubptgbot<K31j0> Jolla is behind the library we use to run our snapdragon stuff21:44
ubptgbot<K31j0> so it's obvious they'll use it21:44
ubptgbot<K31j0> in fact all their devices are snaprdagon21:44
ubptgbot<K31j0> the ones officially supported21:44
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> I mean the actual Jolla phone itself, not the Sony ones21:44
ubptgbot<K31j0> The first jolla phone is unsupported at this point21:45
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> that shipped with Sailfish OS pre-installed, and was their own thing rather than just an Android phone bodged to run SFOS21:45
ubptgbot<K31j0> It's just patchwork around the same thing21:45
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> what about the C?21:46
ubptgbot<K31j0> the only non-Android OSes to ship on Snapdragons without Android firmware were BBOS and Windows Phone21:46
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> that got the 4.x update21:46
ubptgbot<K31j0> and it cost them a lot of money21:46
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> soo... I guess Pine and Librem are pretty much the only options at this point? 😆21:48
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> for avoiding Android stuff in there I mean21:48
ubptgbot<K31j0> yeah and I guess pine is better than librem21:48
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> I've still got a Nokia n900 that has a mainline Linux kernel too, but again, that hardware is ooooooollldddd21:49
ubptgbot<K31j0> But that chip from pine is seriously old21:49
ubptgbot<K31j0> and limited to 3G RAM I guess21:49
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> yeah their quartz announcement got a few people excited about the possibility of a chip refresh on the pinephone21:49
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> dunno if that'll happen or not21:50
ubptgbot<dohbee> @K31j0 [Jolla is behind the library we use to run our snapdragon stuff], libhybris isn't about snapdragon. it's about connecting gnu libc stuff to bionic libc calls21:50
ubptgbot<K31j0> its main consumer end is the snapdragon devices though21:51
ubptgbot<dohbee> SFOS like UT uses android kernel/drivers. they just run everything in the same root, rather than shoving the android parts into an LXC container21:51
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> yeah there are plenty of non-snapdragon devices that use Android stoof to boot non-Android OS's (whether it's libhybris or halium or whatever else)21:51
ubptgbot<K31j0> from my experience sailfish is easier to port21:53
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @vonnie thomas [Well i found out the Motorola flip Razr is not supported on lineageos.  😡 the f …], pinephone says hi22:08
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [pinephone says hi], Not really a consumer friendly device though :)22:21
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> Or one which is likely to spawn the next Elon Musk.22:26
ubptgbot. . was added by: . .22:29
ubptgbot<. .> hello, im having some issues with ubuntu touch on a nexus 5. I can't setup ssh and pip3 in no reconized22:29
ubptgbot<. .> anyone can help me?22:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [Not really a consumer friendly device though :)], *yet :p … can't leave out the optimistic "yet" xD22:30
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @. . [hello, im having some issues with ubuntu touch on a nexus 5. I can't setup ssh a …], i don't believe pip is installed on ubuntu touch22:30
ubptgbot<. .> i tried to install it22:31
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> as for ssh passwordauthentication is disabled by default22:31
ubptgbot<. .> but is not found idk22:31
ubptgbot<. .> i tried to enable it but is asking for a password. i cant change it for an error with the 'passwd' command22:31
ubptgbot<. .> is so annoying22:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @. . [i tried to install it], as ubuntu touch is not a tradtional linux distro it relies on image-based updates, as such it has readonly rootfs22:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i would not reccomend attempting to install things with apt outside of libertine22:32
ubptgbot<. .> so i cant install pip?22:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> not directly no22:33
ubptgbot<. .> im a noob i know that22:33
ubptgbot<. .> mmm22:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> i'd recommend trying with in libertine: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html22:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> as for setting up ssh: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/ssh.html22:34
ubptgbot<. .> thank you so much22:34
ubptgbot<. .> i will let you know22:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> sure22:34
ubptgbot<. .> ur the best :)22:35
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I've had to install `pip` before to make Tizonia work.22:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TartanSpartan [I've had to install pip before to make Tizonia work.], oh did you do that outside of libertine? 👀22:35
ubptgbot<. .> @TartanSpartan [I've had to install pip before to make Tizonia work.], yes, how you did it?22:36
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> ^^ No sorry, inside Libertine.22:39
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> AFAICR very much like how you'd do it on Ubuntu desktop.22:40
ubptgbot<. .> ah okok22:40
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> I am going to write up a guide on how to install Tizonia when I get my Volla, but that's still a week or so away now.22:40
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> It's finally cleared customs and on it's way to the west coast from Montreal.22:41
ubptgbot<vonnie thomas> The Volla looks nice but website doesn't say where it is manufactured-do you know23:54
ubptgbot<K31j0> About volla23:56
ubptgbot<K31j0> (Photo, 1117x486) https://irc.ubports.com/CC7LibFT.png23:56
ubptgbot<K31j0> Is it supposed to look like that?23:56
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> The image quality? I've been wondering too...23:59

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