[01:18] bluescreen?! that's new 👀 [01:26] I'm sending it off to warranty since it does that when I connect audio jack and play audio through it as well.. [01:26] Probably board ded [01:26] welp [01:27] I just hope I won't have to wait a week [01:27] for bootloader unlock [01:27] again [01:27] yeah some of these things are somewhat annoying [01:28] Sometime I just want to get a pixel, because their low level software doesn't suck as bad [01:28] I installed the newest stable factory rom to verify that it still works [01:28] it works [01:28] and when I restored my backup with older rom it doesn't boot [01:28] pesky rollback protection [01:28] oh my [01:29] Now I will try dirty flashing the newest rom on top of the backup since I don't have time or patience to set up everything from scratch [01:30] maybe I'll just actually get a fairphone3 or a pixel since some of those chinese devices shouldn't have ever existed with that kind of poor engineering [01:35] Hello , I succesfully installed Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 5 [01:36] should it automatically pick up a wireless mouse hooked up to a usb hub? [01:39] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VBV1PY5/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 [01:39] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DV98R7/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 [01:39] https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089M7WSHM/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 [01:39] this is the hardware Im using [01:40] uhhh not sure we have wireless usb mouse drivers, but i believe bluetooth mice work find and wired usb mice works fine [01:41] @K31j0 [maybe I'll just actually get a fairphone3 or a pixel since some of those chinese …], hmm maybe but do be sure to check the devices page for known issues [01:42] @Fuseteam [hmm maybe but do be sure to check the devices page for known issues], If it can receive calls I'm more than happy to buy it after today's adventure xD [01:42] I wonder if it'll receive calls on stock now [01:42] maybe I've killed it [01:42] it is not that easy to kill it tho :p [01:42] hmmm [01:43] if its linux there should be a way on the terminal right? lol [01:43] If board was ded from the beginning I should've expected that tbh [01:48] 只想静静 was added by: 只想静静 [01:51] @Commander Revan [if its linux there should be a way on the terminal right? lol], well yes it is linux but its also not traditional linux [02:08] right I get it, probably easier if I just get a wireless mouse [02:08] or i mean bluetooth [02:08] is there any way to fix the double icon thing when you install android apps? [02:40] ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium 7.1 source. i used the ubuntu windows app. i want to install but i dont have an actual ubuntu computer so the installer download wint work [02:48] any suggestions [02:53] @Commander Revan [is there any way to fix the double icon thing when you install android apps?], you can refresh the drawer i think [02:54] @Remy [ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium …], if you build it yourself the installer will likely not work yet, most people who can answer your question are in the porting group tho [02:59] sorry to interrupt ... what about my redmi 8a? [03:00] @Fuseteam [if you build it yourself the installer will likely not work yet, most people who …], this isnt the porting group? [03:05] @Commander Revan [this isnt the porting group?], this is the main group the porting group is at @ubports_porting [03:05] sorry about that [03:05] thank you [03:05] @iminlovewith [sorry to interrupt ... what about my redmi 8a?], that has to be ported afaik [03:05] @Commander Revan [sorry about that], no worries [03:07] ok thnx [04:55] lihai2333 was added by: lihai2333 [05:55] Xavier was added by: Xavier [06:28] nachodorito was added by: nachodorito [07:10] @Remy [ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium …], as a last resort you can run an Ubuntu vm with the installer [08:12] Harkamal was added by: Harkamal === shann_ is now known as shann [13:35] Anghirrim was added by: Anghirrim [13:48] I have a problem. nexus 5 great for convergence.OPO great wireless coverrgence, audio video.OP 3T dual sim, fast. I need a big bag for my UT devices :) ;-) [15:03] Silly question about the lock screen: … What do the dots (filled/empty) and the semi-circles around mean? [15:06] empty are remaining days in month, filled are past days. circles emanating from them are indicative of amount of activity for current infographic topic (which you can change by double-tapping on the label in center) [15:07] Oh, nice … Thanks for explainig [15:35] Rupert Fuentes was added by: Rupert Fuentes [15:55] the UT lock screen is still the best I've ever seen, so much information packed into a really nice graphic [15:56] Tesla giving Bitcoin and Ethereum! Ohh big news! https://bit.ly/3uzE0zo [15:57] a bit too confusing though as-is. [16:01] (Photo, 360x640) https://irc.ubports.com/vBbL0Ycw.png I really like the lock screen, especially combined with a background that emphasizes the circle. [16:09] I didn't know about that circle. Is there a maintainer of teleports here? [16:12] EsperantistoLuizClaudio was added by: EsperantistoLuizClaudio [16:13] Hi ! [16:14] @PiecerEdd [the UT lock screen is still the best I've ever seen, so much information packed …], I like it but personally, I think it's more of a novelty and can be more useful 😄 [16:22] kawumm was added by: kawumm [16:29] Hi there … I am new to ubuntu Touch and have just installed it on a Sony xperia x Compact. Is here the correct Channel to get some advice? [16:43] yes, this is the main group for UT [16:44] anyone with Nexus 5, is it also hard for you to trigger selection mode (double-tap) on the OSK? [16:52] @Javacookies [anyone with Nexus 5, is it also hard for you to trigger selection mode (double-t …], i don't think it is specific to nexus 5 [16:52] the more you do it, it seems to get more difficult to switch between the two modes [16:55] well in all my devices, it generally works fine but it's extra hard on my Nexus 5. But I agree, it needs to be improved. [16:57] Is there a reason the lock screen passcode is limited to 4 digits? [17:02] it's a technical limitation of the design. could certainly be fixed to support longer ones [17:04] so it's probably a bit trivial to support longer ones? … I would prefer at least 6 digits too [17:05] don't know if "trivial" is the right term [17:05] but it's certainly doable [17:05] Okay. So i have an issue with my sim card on the xperia x compact. The sim card is not detected by the device. I tried two different sim cards and tried them in another phone also. Is there anything else i can check? … thanks [17:06] That sounds like a hardware issue to be honest. [17:07] Mhmm ... phone worked with with the original android os [17:11] There is also no imei shown in the device info screen ... [17:12] Is that normal on ut? [17:12] Did you try to reflash stock OS? [17:13] that might be some issue with vendor image/firmware in general [17:13] it seems like your modem doesn't init at all [17:13] it should show IMEI without simcard even [17:14] No not yet. It hab been a long journey to get ut work on the phone. So i have not flashed it back yet [17:14] Maybe the firmware UT installs is from another region [17:15] I'd advise you to reflash stock and check if it works there [17:16] Okay. Then i will try to flash it with stock os and then try again [17:19] It seems it's based on nougat [17:20] So I'd just install stock based on nougat if you can get it and try from there [17:20] ofc if the modem works on that [17:21] It was oreo installed before [17:22] Would nougat be better? [17:23] Yeah, if you can get it that is [17:23] xperias sometimes act funky [17:23] 😁👍 [17:26] @K31j0 [I didn't know about that circle. Is there a maintainer of teleports here?], yes he is :P not tis not me [17:30] @klaartje_b [], Ooo yes that's cool [17:36] @Javacookies [so it's probably a bit trivial to support longer ones? … I would prefer at least 6 …], Six would be good [17:38] Does it need to have a set number, ie could it be down to the user ie 4-8 (min\max) [17:38] @Fuseteam [yes he is :P not tis not me], who dis then [17:38] I wanted to ask something [17:39] just ask he reads the chat :P [17:39] I hope :D [17:39] he definitely does 😆 [17:39] Is this based on tdlib or tdlib-json? I've seen some qtdlib in repos but I didn't dig into details [17:40] i've seen him talk about tdlib a lot in the qa room [17:40] which repos did you check? gitlab? [17:41] Yeah [17:42] i don't know what `tdlib-json` is but teleports uses `tdlib` for sure [17:42] @K31j0 [Yeah], https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/blob/master/.gitmodules#L3 [17:43] `qtdlib` is an internal wrapper library to expose tdlib stuff as `QObject` based things for QML and such [17:44] @K31j0 told ya you would get an answer :P [17:46] It doesn't like huge amounts of chats that's for sure [17:46] not sure tdlib is the issue there, do mean groups channels and personal chats? [17:49] yeah [17:50] Could also use archive support since it doesn't have it [17:50] I'll poke around [17:54] it will gain archive support yeah [18:21] Just a quick question about morph browser. Is there any way to add some page to background so music/video can play when i use other applications? [18:23] applications in general are suspended when in the background to save battery [18:24] the original intention was to have background media to play through the media hub (that player you see in the sound indicator) [18:24] currently the work around is to disable suspension of the app in the ubuntu touch tweak tool [18:25] in my experience it hard to keep track of applications that are not suspended [18:42] @hilledkinged [Just a quick question about morph browser. Is there any way to add some page to …], You can use Webber to create a webapp for that page, and then use UT Tweak Tool to prevent suspension of that webapp [18:43] @Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even? [18:43] @K31j0 [@Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even?], there are some patches [18:43] it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is [18:44] @K31j0 [it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is], ubports-beryllium/unity8-notch-hax [18:44] github/com/ [18:44] not sure if links are allowed to be shared here [18:44] @hilledkinged [ubports-beryllium/unity8-notch-hax], its for example [18:45] @TotalSonic [You can use Webber to create a webapp for that page, and then use UT Tweak Tool …], ok thanks [18:45] @hilledkinged [not sure if links are allowed to be shared here], Pasting complete links is all good here [18:45] oke [18:46] Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files [18:46] @K31j0 [it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is], the ut tweak worked [18:46] @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], It just needs a bit more work before it can be merged [18:50] vonnie thomas was added by: vonnie thomas [18:52] @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], Info on applying the current fix for the issue of indicators getting obscured rounded corners of the Volla here - what is left to be done is figuring out how to make the indicators avoid the middle notch - https://forums.ubports.com/post/45791 [18:52] @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], [Edit] Info on applying the current fix for the issue of indicators getting obscured by the rounded corners of the Volla here - what is left to be done is figuring out how to make the indicators avoid the middle notch - https://forums.ubports.com/post/45791 [18:52] boomer new to open sourcing. anyone have experience replacing the motorola razr android os with ubuntu. hate google/android [18:53] @vonnie thomas [boomer new to open sourcing. anyone have experience replacing the motorola razr …], the flip oled razr? [18:54] yes. i bought the phone strictly for its design. always been an iphone person. love the razr, hate the android os and the power of google [18:54] Check if it has lineageos [18:56] not sure how to do this but will figure it out. if it does or does not then what? [18:57] Go on to @ubports_porting and port it [18:58] razr is what I'd call an exotic device [18:58] and pretty expensive [18:58] so I guess it won't get a port suddenly [18:58] @vonnie thomas [not sure how to do this but will figure it out. if it does or does not then what …], That device is not currently supported by Ubuntu Touch so would need to be ported. [19:01] thanks.. you guys are great. glad i found this site. [20:02] @K31j0 [I'll poke around], Just check the latest merge in Teleports repo. 😉 [20:16] @K31j0 [@Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even?], yes there are some floating with ideas [20:17] @hilledkinged [not sure if links are allowed to be shared here], relevent and related links are fine [20:18] @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], notches are a bit more complicated but we'll get there [20:19] @Danfro [Just check the latest merge in Teleports repo. 😉], archives? really? [20:20] At least the backend got merged. Florian is really busy recently doing lots of cool things to Teleports. [20:21] cool [21:35] Well i found out the Motorola flip Razr is not supported on lineageos. 😡 the first one of you young folks that develops a smart phone that doesn't require Apple or Google OS is going to be the next Elon Musk [21:37] theres a few phones that don't require it and lotss that ship with Android but allow another OS to be installed instead, just depends on your needs/wants [21:37] You can skip Google Login on Android [21:38] and use FOSS apps [21:38] but I know that's probably not what you're after [21:38] + use Island to freeze all of the apps the OS won't let you uninstall 😆 [21:38] or just disable 'em if possible [21:39] Unfortunately alternate oses still require drivers from android and the chip companies are absolute terrible at security [21:40] yeah thats the annoying part... there aren't many that don't require the Android junk to run UT or another alt OS [21:40] pine/librem are the obvious ones, I think the Jolla doesn't require Android blobs either but I could be wrong on that (plus y'know that phone is like a bazillion years old at this point) [21:44] Jolla is behind the library we use to run our snapdragon stuff [21:44] so it's obvious they'll use it [21:44] in fact all their devices are snaprdagon [21:44] the ones officially supported [21:44] I mean the actual Jolla phone itself, not the Sony ones [21:45] The first jolla phone is unsupported at this point [21:45] that shipped with Sailfish OS pre-installed, and was their own thing rather than just an Android phone bodged to run SFOS [21:45] It's just patchwork around the same thing [21:46] what about the C? [21:46] the only non-Android OSes to ship on Snapdragons without Android firmware were BBOS and Windows Phone [21:46] that got the 4.x update [21:46] and it cost them a lot of money [21:48] soo... I guess Pine and Librem are pretty much the only options at this point? 😆 [21:48] for avoiding Android stuff in there I mean [21:48] yeah and I guess pine is better than librem [21:49] I've still got a Nokia n900 that has a mainline Linux kernel too, but again, that hardware is ooooooollldddd [21:49] But that chip from pine is seriously old [21:49] and limited to 3G RAM I guess [21:49] yeah their quartz announcement got a few people excited about the possibility of a chip refresh on the pinephone [21:50] dunno if that'll happen or not [21:50] @K31j0 [Jolla is behind the library we use to run our snapdragon stuff], libhybris isn't about snapdragon. it's about connecting gnu libc stuff to bionic libc calls [21:51] its main consumer end is the snapdragon devices though [21:51] SFOS like UT uses android kernel/drivers. they just run everything in the same root, rather than shoving the android parts into an LXC container [21:51] yeah there are plenty of non-snapdragon devices that use Android stoof to boot non-Android OS's (whether it's libhybris or halium or whatever else) [21:53] from my experience sailfish is easier to port [22:08] @vonnie thomas [Well i found out the Motorola flip Razr is not supported on lineageos. 😡 the f …], pinephone says hi [22:21] @Fuseteam [pinephone says hi], Not really a consumer friendly device though :) [22:26] Or one which is likely to spawn the next Elon Musk. [22:29] . . was added by: . . [22:29] <. .> hello, im having some issues with ubuntu touch on a nexus 5. I can't setup ssh and pip3 in no reconized [22:30] <. .> anyone can help me? [22:30] @dohbee [Not really a consumer friendly device though :)], *yet :p … can't leave out the optimistic "yet" xD [22:30] @. . [hello, im having some issues with ubuntu touch on a nexus 5. I can't setup ssh a …], i don't believe pip is installed on ubuntu touch [22:31]