 bluescreen?! that's new 👀
 I'm sending it off to warranty since it does that when I connect audio jack and play audio through it as well..
 Probably board ded
 welp
 I just hope I won't have to wait a week
 for bootloader unlock
 again
 yeah some of these things are somewhat annoying
 Sometime I just want to get a pixel, because their low level software doesn't suck as bad
 I installed the newest stable factory rom to verify that it still works
 it works
 and when I restored my backup with older rom it doesn't boot
 pesky rollback protection
 oh my
 Now I will try dirty flashing the newest rom on top of the backup since I don't have time or patience to set up everything from scratch
 maybe I'll just actually get a fairphone3 or a pixel since some of those chinese devices shouldn't have ever existed with that kind of poor engineering
[01:35] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> Hello , I succesfully installed Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 5
[01:36] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> should it automatically pick up a wireless mouse hooked up to a usb hub?
[01:39] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VBV1PY5/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[01:39] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074DV98R7/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[01:39] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B089M7WSHM/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[01:39] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> this is the hardware Im using
 uhhh not sure we have wireless usb mouse drivers, but i believe bluetooth mice work find and wired usb mice works fine
 @K31j0 [maybe I'll just actually get a fairphone3 or a pixel since some of those chinese …], hmm maybe but do be sure to check the devices page for known issues
 @Fuseteam [hmm maybe but do be sure to check the devices page for known issues], If it can receive calls I'm more than happy to buy it after today's adventure xD
 I wonder if it'll receive calls on stock now
 maybe I've killed it
 it is not that easy to kill it tho :p
[01:42] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> hmmm
[01:43] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> if its linux there should be a way on the terminal right? lol
 If board was ded from the beginning I should've expected that tbh
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 @Commander Revan [if its linux there should be a way on the terminal right? lol], well yes it is linux but its also not traditional linux
[02:08] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> right I get it, probably easier if I just get a wireless mouse
[02:08] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> or i mean bluetooth
[02:08] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> is there any way to fix the double icon thing when you install android apps?
 ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium 7.1 source. i used the ubuntu windows app. i want to install but i dont have an actual ubuntu computer so the installer download wint work
 any suggestions
 @Commander Revan [is there any way to fix the double icon thing when you install android apps?], you can refresh the drawer i think
 @Remy [ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium …], if you build it yourself the installer will likely not work yet, most people who can answer your question are in the porting group tho
 sorry to interrupt ... what about my redmi 8a?
[03:00] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> @Fuseteam [if you build it yourself the installer will likely not work yet, most people who …], this isnt the porting group?
 @Commander Revan [this isnt the porting group?], this is the main group the porting group is at @ubports_porting
[03:05] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> sorry about that
[03:05] <ubptgbot> <Commander Revan> thank you
 @iminlovewith [sorry to interrupt ... what about my redmi 8a?], that has to be ported afaik
 @Commander Revan [sorry about that], no worries
 ok thnx
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 @Remy [ok i have built a halium-boot.img and system image for ubuntu touch using halium …], as a last resort you can run an Ubuntu vm with the installer
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[13:48] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> I have a problem. nexus 5 great for convergence.OPO great wireless coverrgence, audio video.OP 3T dual sim, fast. I need a big bag for my UT devices :) ;-)
 Silly question about the lock screen: … What do the dots (filled/empty) and the semi-circles around mean?
 empty are remaining days in month, filled are past days. circles emanating from them are indicative of amount of activity for current infographic topic (which you can change by double-tapping on the label in center)
 Oh, nice … Thanks for explainig
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 the UT lock screen is still the best I've ever seen, so much information packed into a really nice graphic
[15:56] <ubptgbot> <Rupert Fuentes> Tesla giving Bitcoin and Ethereum! Ohh big news!  https://bit.ly/3uzE0zo
 a bit too confusing though as-is.
 (Photo, 360x640) https://irc.ubports.com/vBbL0Ycw.png I really like the lock screen, especially combined with a background that emphasizes the circle.
 I didn't know about that circle. Is there a maintainer of teleports here?
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 Hi !
 @PiecerEdd [the UT lock screen is still the best I've ever seen, so much information packed …], I like it but personally, I think it's more of a novelty and can be more useful 😄
[16:22] <ubptgbot> kawumm was added by: kawumm
 Hi there … I am new to ubuntu Touch and have just installed it on a Sony xperia x Compact. Is here the correct Channel to get some advice?
 yes, this is the main group for UT
 anyone with Nexus 5, is it also hard for you to trigger selection mode (double-tap) on the OSK?
 @Javacookies [anyone with Nexus 5, is it also hard for you to trigger selection mode (double-t …], i don't think it is specific to nexus 5
 the more you do it, it seems to get more difficult to switch between the two modes
 well in all my devices, it generally works fine but it's extra hard on my Nexus 5. But I agree, it needs to be improved.
 Is there a reason the lock screen passcode is limited to 4 digits?
 it's a technical limitation of the design. could certainly be fixed to support longer ones
 so it's probably a bit trivial to support longer ones? … I would prefer at least 6 digits too
 don't know if "trivial" is the right term
 but it's certainly doable
 Okay. So i have an issue with my sim card on the xperia x compact. The sim card is not detected by the device. I tried two different sim cards and tried them in another phone also. Is there anything else i can check? … thanks
 That sounds like a hardware issue to be honest.
 Mhmm ... phone worked with with the original android os
 There is also no imei shown in the device info screen ...
 Is that normal on ut?
 Did you try to reflash stock OS?
 that might be some issue with vendor image/firmware in general
 it seems like your modem doesn't init at all
 it should show IMEI without simcard even
 No not yet. It hab been a long journey to get ut work on the phone. So i have not flashed it back yet
 Maybe the firmware UT installs is from another region
 I'd advise you to reflash stock and check if it works there
 Okay. Then i will try to flash it with stock os and then try again
 It seems it's based on nougat
 So I'd just install stock based on nougat if you can get it and try from there
 ofc if the modem works on that
 It was oreo installed before
 Would nougat be better?
 Yeah, if you can get it that is
 xperias sometimes act funky
 😁👍
 @K31j0 [I didn't know about that circle. Is there a maintainer of teleports here?], yes he is :P not tis not me
 @klaartje_b [<reply to media>], Ooo yes that's cool
 @Javacookies [so it's probably a bit trivial to support longer ones? … I would prefer at least 6 …], Six would be good
 Does it need to have a set number, ie could it be down to the user ie 4-8 (min\max)
 @Fuseteam [yes he is :P not tis not me], who dis then
 I wanted to ask something
 just ask he reads the chat :P
 I hope :D
 he definitely does 😆
 Is this based on tdlib or tdlib-json? I've seen some qtdlib in repos but I didn't dig into details
 i've seen him talk about tdlib a lot in the qa room
 which repos did you check? gitlab?
 Yeah
 i don't know what `tdlib-json` is but teleports uses `tdlib` for sure
 @K31j0 [Yeah], https://gitlab.com/ubports/apps/teleports/-/blob/master/.gitmodules#L3
 `qtdlib` is an internal wrapper library to expose tdlib stuff as `QObject` based things for QML and such
 @K31j0 told ya you would get an answer :P
 It doesn't like huge amounts of chats that's for sure
 not sure tdlib is the issue there, do mean groups channels and personal chats?
 yeah
 Could also use archive support since it doesn't have it
 I'll poke around
 it will gain archive support yeah
 Just a quick question about morph browser. Is there any way to add some page to background so music/video can play when i use other applications?
 applications in general are suspended when in the background to save battery
 the original intention was to have background media to play through the media hub (that player you see in the sound indicator)
 currently the work around is to disable suspension of the app in the ubuntu touch tweak tool
 in my experience it hard to keep track of applications that are not suspended
 @hilledkinged [Just a quick question about morph browser. Is there any way to add some page to …], You can use Webber to create a webapp for that page, and then use UT Tweak Tool to prevent suspension of that webapp
 @Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even?
 @K31j0 [@Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even?], there are some patches
 it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is
 @K31j0 [it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is], ubports-beryllium/unity8-notch-hax
 github/com/
 not sure if links are allowed to be shared here
 @hilledkinged [ubports-beryllium/unity8-notch-hax], its for example
 @TotalSonic [You can use Webber to create a webapp for that page, and then use UT Tweak Tool …], ok thanks
 @hilledkinged [not sure if links are allowed to be shared here], Pasting complete links is all good here
 oke
 Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files
 @K31j0 [it looks weird to have stuff rendering where the cutout is], the ut tweak worked
 @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], It just needs a bit more work before it can be merged
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 @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], Info on applying the current fix for the issue of indicators getting obscured  rounded corners of the Volla here - what is left to be done is figuring out how to make the indicators avoid the middle notch - https://forums.ubports.com/post/45791
 @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], [Edit] Info on applying the current fix for the issue of indicators getting obscured by the rounded corners of the Volla here - what is left to be done is figuring out how to make the indicators avoid the middle notch - https://forums.ubports.com/post/45791
[18:52] <ubptgbot> <vonnie thomas> boomer new to open sourcing.  anyone have experience replacing the motorola razr android os with ubuntu.  hate google/android
 @vonnie thomas [boomer new to open sourcing.  anyone have experience replacing the motorola razr …], the flip oled razr?
[18:54] <ubptgbot> <vonnie thomas> yes.  i bought the phone strictly for its design.  always been an iphone person.  love the razr, hate the android os and the power of google
 Check if it has lineageos
[18:56] <ubptgbot> <vonnie thomas> not sure how to do this but will figure it out. if it does or does not then what?
 Go on to @ubports_porting and port it
 razr is what I'd call an exotic device
 and pretty expensive
 so I guess it won't get a port suddenly
 @vonnie thomas [not sure how to do this but will figure it out. if it does or does not then what …], That device is not currently supported by Ubuntu Touch so would need to be ported.
[19:01] <ubptgbot> <vonnie thomas> thanks..  you guys are great.  glad i found this site.
 @K31j0 [I'll poke around], Just check the latest merge in Teleports repo. 😉
 @K31j0 [@Fuseteam also is anyone working on notch support even?], yes there are some floating with ideas
 @hilledkinged [not sure if links are allowed to be shared here], relevent and related links are fine
 @K31j0 [Would be nice to upstream it and make it an option in device files], notches are a bit more complicated but we'll get there
 @Danfro [Just check the latest merge in Teleports repo. 😉], archives? really?
 At least the backend got merged. Florian is really busy recently doing lots of cool things to Teleports.
 cool
[21:35] <ubptgbot> <vonnie thomas> Well i found out the Motorola flip Razr is not supported on lineageos.  😡 the first one of you young folks that develops a smart phone that doesn't require Apple or Google OS is going to be the next Elon Musk
 theres a few phones that don't require it and lotss that ship with Android but allow another OS to be installed instead, just depends on your needs/wants
 You can skip Google Login on Android
 and use FOSS apps
 but I know that's probably not what you're after
 + use Island to freeze all of the apps the OS won't let you uninstall 😆
 or just disable 'em if possible
 Unfortunately alternate oses still require drivers from android and the chip companies are absolute terrible at security
 yeah thats the annoying part... there aren't many that don't require the Android junk to run UT or another alt OS
 pine/librem are the obvious ones, I think the Jolla doesn't require Android blobs either but I could be wrong on that (plus y'know that phone is like a bazillion years old at this point)
 Jolla is behind the library we use to run our snapdragon stuff
 so it's obvious they'll use it
 in fact all their devices are snaprdagon
 the ones officially supported
 I mean the actual Jolla phone itself, not the Sony ones
 The first jolla phone is unsupported at this point
 that shipped with Sailfish OS pre-installed, and was their own thing rather than just an Android phone bodged to run SFOS
 It's just patchwork around the same thing
 what about the C?
 the only non-Android OSes to ship on Snapdragons without Android firmware were BBOS and Windows Phone
 that got the 4.x update
 and it cost them a lot of money
 soo... I guess Pine and Librem are pretty much the only options at this point? 😆
 for avoiding Android stuff in there I mean
 yeah and I guess pine is better than librem
 I've still got a Nokia n900 that has a mainline Linux kernel too, but again, that hardware is ooooooollldddd
 But that chip from pine is seriously old
 and limited to 3G RAM I guess
 yeah their quartz announcement got a few people excited about the possibility of a chip refresh on the pinephone
 dunno if that'll happen or not
 @K31j0 [Jolla is behind the library we use to run our snapdragon stuff], libhybris isn't about snapdragon. it's about connecting gnu libc stuff to bionic libc calls
 its main consumer end is the snapdragon devices though
 SFOS like UT uses android kernel/drivers. they just run everything in the same root, rather than shoving the android parts into an LXC container
 yeah there are plenty of non-snapdragon devices that use Android stoof to boot non-Android OS's (whether it's libhybris or halium or whatever else)
 from my experience sailfish is easier to port
 @vonnie thomas [Well i found out the Motorola flip Razr is not supported on lineageos.  😡 the f …], pinephone says hi
 @Fuseteam [pinephone says hi], Not really a consumer friendly device though :)
 Or one which is likely to spawn the next Elon Musk.
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[22:29] <ubptgbot> <. .> hello, im having some issues with ubuntu touch on a nexus 5. I can't setup ssh and pip3 in no reconized
[22:30] <ubptgbot> <. .> anyone can help me?
 @dohbee [Not really a consumer friendly device though :)], *yet :p … can't leave out the optimistic "yet" xD
 @. . [hello, im having some issues with ubuntu touch on a nexus 5. I can't setup ssh a …], i don't believe pip is installed on ubuntu touch
[22:31] <ubptgbot> <. .> i tried to install it
 as for ssh passwordauthentication is disabled by default
[22:31] <ubptgbot> <. .> but is not found idk
[22:31] <ubptgbot> <. .> i tried to enable it but is asking for a password. i cant change it for an error with the 'passwd' command
[22:32] <ubptgbot> <. .> is so annoying
 @. . [i tried to install it], as ubuntu touch is not a tradtional linux distro it relies on image-based updates, as such it has readonly rootfs
 i would not reccomend attempting to install things with apt outside of libertine
[22:33] <ubptgbot> <. .> so i cant install pip?
 not directly no
[22:33] <ubptgbot> <. .> im a noob i know that
[22:33] <ubptgbot> <. .> mmm
 i'd recommend trying with in libertine: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/dailyuse/libertine.html
 as for setting up ssh: https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/userguide/advanceduse/ssh.html
[22:34] <ubptgbot> <. .> thank you so much
[22:34] <ubptgbot> <. .> i will let you know
 sure
[22:35] <ubptgbot> <. .> ur the best :)
 I've had to install `pip` before to make Tizonia work.
 @TartanSpartan [I've had to install pip before to make Tizonia work.], oh did you do that outside of libertine? 👀
[22:36] <ubptgbot> <. .> @TartanSpartan [I've had to install pip before to make Tizonia work.], yes, how you did it?
 ^^ No sorry, inside Libertine.
 AFAICR very much like how you'd do it on Ubuntu desktop.
[22:40] <ubptgbot> <. .> ah okok
 I am going to write up a guide on how to install Tizonia when I get my Volla, but that's still a week or so away now.
 It's finally cleared customs and on it's way to the west coast from Montreal.
[23:54] <ubptgbot> <vonnie thomas> The Volla looks nice but website doesn't say where it is manufactured-do you know
 About volla
 (Photo, 1117x486) https://irc.ubports.com/CC7LibFT.png
 Is it supposed to look like that?
 The image quality? I've been wondering too...