 in fact everything that isn't bq aquaris looks bad
 Pastel shading? Eh? Haha.
 @vonnie thomas [The Volla looks nice but website doesn't say where it is manufactured-do you kno …], Northern Deutschland.
[00:05] <ubptgbot> <vonnie thomas> thank you-how long has it taken you to get yours?
 A long time. Placed the order in early December. Shipped in late January. Ocean freight to Canada by DHL meant this took a long time. It finally got picked up on the tracker again two days ago, and Canada Post predict it should be here by March the 10th at the latest; hopefully faster as I've seen land freight from Montreal to Vanco
[00:08] <ubptgbot> uver should take five or so days, then it has to go onward to my part of BC.
 I was happy to be patient, but if I had mission critical work and needed a UT phone I would have gone for a different device shipped faster directly within Canada.
 [Edit] I was happy to be patient, but if I had mission critical work and needed a UT phone I would have gone for a different device instead, shipped faster directly within Canada.
[01:40] <ubptgbot> madmyth was added by: madmyth
 please support   Asus Zenfone max pro M1 too
[03:39] <ubptgbot> rsainithish was added by: rsainithish
 Put the Volla through more real world tests as a daily driver today - uNav worked great with it, getting a gps lock in under a minute, and giving accurate position and appropriately timed voice commands the whole way - and YouTube ran smoothly for a 30+ minute stretch while waiting in a long drive through line with no issues getting mo
[04:07] <ubptgbot> bile LTE data.
 [Edit] Put the Volla through more real world tests as a daily driver on the road today - uNav worked great with it, getting a gps lock in under a minute, and giving accurate position and appropriately timed voice commands the whole way - and YouTube ran smoothly for a 30+ minute stretch while waiting in a long drive through line with n
[04:07] <ubptgbot> o issues getting mobile LTE data.
 👌
 @madmyth [please support   Asus Zenfone max pro M1 too], hi sadly only those who own that device can bring support to it
 what's up with the updates in system settings stopping to do anything when left alone for some time? 😅
 it's like saying "You had your time to download or install me, I refuse to do anything regardless of how many times you tap me"
 @TartanSpartan [I was happy to be patient, but if I had mission critical work and needed a UT ph …], It would be really nice if Volla had a North American distributor, as well as a  Volla NA edition that was compatible with all the North American GSM based carrier's main LTE bands.  But that would require a bit of expense on their and/
[05:00] <ubptgbot> or the distributor's part in order to fund that edition, as well as to gain FCC approval for the device as well.
 @Javacookies [it's like saying "You had your time to download or install me, I refuse to do an …], haha yeah its not cleared when a new update get downloaded
 @Javacookies [it's like saying "You had your time to download or install me, I refuse to do an …], [Edit] haha yeah its not cleared when a new update gets downloaded
[05:27] <ubptgbot> <johan van de Sande> Voilla i have the vollaphone here very good phone i like it
 @TotalSonic [It would be really nice if Volla had a North American distributor, as well as a …], I'm optimistic about my carriers but only time shall tell for sure.
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 I want Lorimi for my device: Xiaomi Redmi Note 6 pro.  Please evaluate if you could do this.  I always liked Ubuntu touch, but I never had the opportunity to use it.  I'm glad to hear that you've done a great job since Canonical discontinued Ubuntu Touch.  Congratulations!
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 @Daniel [I want Lorimi for my device: Xiaomi Redmi Note 6 pro.  Please evaluate if you co …], does your device has android 9 and support project treble?
 if so you only need to compile boot.img for your device and use gsi
 [Edit] if so you only need to compile boot.img for your device and you'll be able to use gsi
[13:50] <ubptgbot> <Václav Straka> Is it easier to patch the kernel of my device or build a boot.img?
 Can i port it to iPhones
 the problem with iPhones is that, they do not run android
[14:00] <ubptgbot> Dkostarnov was added by: Dkostarnov
 Hello everyone, as far as I understand, UBPorts is porting an abandoned Ubuntu Touch to different devices?
[14:02] <ubptgbot> <Václav Straka> They are also updating it
 Well, can I see a kernel like 20.04 in UBPort?
 @Dkostarnov [Well, can I see a kernel like 20.04 in UBPort?], kernels are device specific on Android and in most cases will never get updated so another version past upstream patch levels or backported stuff, the base Ubuntu version however is getting upgrades to 20.04 LTS later as currently it's still on 16.04 LTS
 @Dkostarnov [Well, can I see a kernel like 20.04 in UBPort?], [Edit] kernels are device specific on Android and in most cases will never get updated to another version past upstream patch levels or backported stuff, the base Ubuntu version however is getting upgrades to 20.04 LTS later as currently it's still on 16.04 LTS
[14:09] <ubptgbot> <Jerry Chase> (Photo, 652x960) https://irc.ubports.com/y9T2Ax4i.png
 @Jerry Chase [<reply to media>], very cool spam
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 Hi everyone. I haven't had the opportunity to try UBports yet as for both of my devices it's still a WIP. But I would really like to know how it fares when it comes to RAM usage. Is it on par or heavier than stockish Android 10 for ex?
 it fair rather well but it is smoother on 2 gig ram devices
 @amn1987 [Hi everyone. I haven't had the opportunity to try UBports yet as for both of my …], Hard to say because its comparing apples with bananas. But the pure OS might need a bit more RAM then just booted Android. We say min 2GB, better 3GB to run it smoothly
 Yeah
 Thanks for the info.
 some say its related the fact that we need android drivers and services to make android devices usable, but i digress
[14:47] <ubptgbot> <Václav Straka> If i want do flash my Redmi 8a with ubuntu touch device i only need to build the halium-boot right?
 @Václav Straka [If i want do flash my Redmi 8a with ubuntu touch device i only need to build the …], hi that question is better suited for the porting channels
[14:48] <ubptgbot> <Václav Straka> Okay i wasn't sure where to post it, thanks.
 @Václav Straka [If i want do flash my Redmi 8a with ubuntu touch device i only need to build the …], [Edit] hi that question is better suited for the porting channels @halium and @ubports_porting
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 Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu Touch on any Samsung Galaxy Tab?
[15:33] <ubptgbot> <ma ma> if i reinstall via installer, will i be able to keep data / how(is there) update option for nexus 4 UT
 @CC_JingOS [Has anyone successfully installed Ubuntu Touch on any Samsung Galaxy Tab?], I do not see it on the devices page https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/ so it seems like there is no port for it yet, so that would be a no.
 Well
 I'm thinking about porting JingOS to my Galaxy Tab
 I'm interested, does JingOS use some technologies similar to Ubuntu Touch?
 Yes, we are based on Ubuntu 20.04
 So I'm here to check which tablet can be ported
 That is indeed interesting!
 Does it currently use hybris?
 So if the Galaxy Tab can port UB, then JingOS too
 Well, not quite
 Do you have anything in place to be able to use SurfaceFlinger, Adreno, and other Android drivers?
 i'm pretty sure jingos does not have any way to use hybris
 @UniversalSuperBox [Does it currently use hybris?], Yes
 Really? On which devices can it be installed?
 We are working on an ARM based device now
 @JingOS_Linux
 Not successfully ported yet
 Oh, okay.
 Maybe you'd like to start with one of the devices that already runs Ubuntu Touch, then. We have hybris figured out to some extent on those.
 Maybe in May, we will port JingOS to the first ARM based device
 And you might like to join us at @halium, since that's where multiple projects get together to work on hybris.
 (and the Android container, and its supporting code)
 Yes, my partner is already at @halium
 So you know JingOS right? I'm not sure people know it or not
 I've heard of it. Y'all get the word out about the product pretty well, but almost nothing is known about its community or development.
 Ok
 where is the source?
[16:08] <ubptgbot> <ma ma> @ma ma [if i reinstall via installer, will i be able to keep data / how(is there) update …], solved
[17:00] <sig_9> hello, I've got a pile of lenova tab10 tablets and was wondering if those would be able to install ubports?
 Not currently, because each android device needs its own custom image created for it. You can find the devices that have such an image at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io. If you're interested in learning how to make a custom image for your stack of devices, you can check out https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/
 @dohbee [where is the source?], And silence lol
 @Dkostarnov [Well, can I see a kernel like 20.04 in UBPort?], what do you mean `kernel 20.04`?
 ubuntu 20.04 might come to devel channel in march
 @just_carlod [ubuntu 20.04 might come to devel channel in march], 😲🤩
 That seems a little accelerated
 I don't suppose there's an alternative camera app? I'd like one like OpenCamera on Android where you can lock the focus and lock the exposure to stop the video colour and focus changing every time something moves.
 No. Since our camera app is FLOSS anyway the best approach would be to improve it rather than release yet another camera app.
 @ronnietucker [I don't suppose there's an alternative camera app? I'd like one like OpenCamera …], that sounds like feature request :)
 @ronnietucker [I don't suppose there's an alternative camera app? I'd like one like OpenCamera …], Having an alternative is always a good, UT itself is an alternative to android.but  the only problem is skills and resources required to build and maintain them 🙂
 @Sanath [Having an alternative is always a good, UT itself is an alternative to android.b …], uh there not really a need for an alternative if it can all be upstream in the existing one, just look at umatrix and fluffychat
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 @Fuseteam [uh there not really a need for an alternative if it can all be upstream in the e …], Fluffychat too have alternates elements, neochat,ditto. i am not saying you should always create a new app , If you feel some thing can be done better differently and have the resources to do it, they why not give a try.
 @Sanath [Fluffychat too have alternates elements, neochat,ditto. i am not saying you shou …], on ubuntu touch there were two fluffychat is maintained and grew to include android and ios, while umatrix is unmaintained
 at this stage it is better to focus on one good app than to bring alternatives in that divide the effort endangering both
 @Fuseteam [at this stage it is better to focus on one good app than to bring alternatives i …], 👍
[18:10] <ubptgbot> UbuntuFossa was added by: UbuntuFossa
 @Sanath [Fluffychat too have alternates elements, neochat,ditto. i am not saying you shou …], [Edit] on ubuntu touch there were two: fluffychat is maintained and grew to include android and ios, while umatrix is unmaintained
 it's live https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AWxWgs0CN0
 I tried ub touch on a nexus 5 after several months. I liked the progresses...nice keyboard, nice browser, nice ux.
 Really good job guys
 I would use it but i csnt stay without android support unfortunately...i need whatsapp :(
 @UniversalSuperBox OTA *16* :P
 @itdoesntmatt [I would use it but i csnt stay without android support unfortunately...i need wh …], There is Anbox for NExus 5 :)
 Does it work pretty well?
 @itdoesntmatt [Does it work pretty well?], Some apps crash, but last time I've tried, whatsapp was working
 By the way, recently reinstalled Ubuntu touch on my Oneplus 3, but I did not find any single working method to install Anbox on it.... Could anyone help me please? … I've followed the Ubuntu wiki, read Ubports wiki, tested various methods found on XDA with no luck....
 I am sure I may be missing something pretty obvious, but for now I am stuck. And yep, need Anbox too for SPotify and Whatsapp
 [Edit] I am sure I may be missing something pretty obvious, but for now I am stuck. And yep, need Anbox too for Spotify and Whatsapp. Thanks!
[20:02] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> Funny guys on Q&A 98 :-)
 We will be over here for preshow https://whereby.com/ubports-chat
 [Edit] We will be over here for posthow https://whereby.com/ubports-chat
 [Edit] We will be over here for postshow https://whereby.com/ubports-chat
 @Anghirrim [I am sure I may be missing something pretty obvious, but for now I am stuck. And …], There are native solutions for Spotify. I am quite familiar with one if you're CLI-friendly.
[20:12] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> (Photo, 1920x1080) https://irc.ubports.com/xquIwgZs.png
 (Photo, 556x395) https://irc.ubports.com/9900zVnD.png WHY?!
 @TartanSpartan [There are native solutions for Spotify. I am quite familiar with one if you're C …], Should be OK, as long as at the end I have a GUI 😁
 Never mind it was lieing to me
[20:14] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @PhoenixLandPirate [<reply to media>], Sorry you are on linux device:)
 That said, I won't be able to write my guide for the CLI one until I get my Volla (a matter of days).
 @Ted Rendol [Sorry you are on linux device:)], Yeah when you enable javascript it just reloads the "Unsupported page"
 @TartanSpartan [That said, I won't be able to write my guide for the CLI one until I get my Voll …], No worries :)
 BUt still need Anbox anyway for Whatsapp
[20:17] <ubptgbot> <Ted Rendol> @PhoenixLandPirate [Yeah when you enable javascript it just reloads the "Unsupported page"], On UT Ota 16 working
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 @TartanSpartan [There are native solutions for Spotify. I am quite familiar with one if you're C …], Try Futify for spotify https://forums.ubports.com/post/33907
 @man_land [Try Futify for spotify https://forums.ubports.com/post/33907], Yep, I think I have tried it in the past. Thanks!!
 @Anghirrim [Yep, I think I have tried it in the past. Thanks!!], Just a note that Futify requires setting up a premium paid account with Spotify on another device first.
 don't all unofficial clients that aren't web wrappers require this?
 @K31j0 [<reply to media>], Thats a bad mockup but sure the team behind will fixe it
 @PiecerEdd [don't all unofficial clients that aren't web wrappers require this?], yeah, I think Spotify has made it near impossible to have an unofficial app that allows for the free accounts to work.
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