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ubptgbot<saligari> @Anghirrim [By the way, recently reinstalled Ubuntu touch on my Oneplus 3, but I did not fin …], I haven't even managed to get libertine working. Apparently makedev fucks up the install but I tried editing a .py to remove makedev - saw it on github as a solution, but nope..00:15
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Anghirrim [BUt still need Anbox anyway for Whatsapp], fwiw, whatsapp on anbox won't have notifications nor camera support, perhaps not even mic support, likely also no way to attach files but i could be wrong on the last 200:37
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @saligari [I haven't even managed to get libertine working. Apparently makedev fucks up the …], hi so what did you try for libertine?00:38
ubptgbot<CC_JingOS> @dohbee [where is the source?], https://github.com/JingOS-team01:27
ubptgbot<saligari> add self.run_in_container('apt remove -y makedev') to line 86 of /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/libertine/ChrootContainer.py fixed libertine container creation for me. This basically just gets rid of makedev once debootstrap finishes01:34
ubptgbot<saligari> @Fuseteam [hi so what did you try for libertine?], https://github.com/ubports/ubuntu-touch/issues/130501:34
ubptgbot<saligari> I tried the last one from this thread, but I havent read the whole thing, maybe something that I missed will work01:35
ubptgbot<saligari> Adding "self.run_in_container('apt remove -y makedev') to line 86 of /usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/libertine/ChrootContainer.py"01:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> .... eh?02:07
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> not sure if this will work but perhaps try `sudo ubports-qa install libertine 104`02:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> might be worth to wait a bit tho πŸ€”02:12
ubptgbot<YepYepperson> Interesting Q&A today.02:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> indeed hehe02:14
ubptgboto_efemero was added by: o_efemero02:46
ubptgbot<o_efemero> I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu touch, it is this error "Mkdir /root/.cache: permission denied" could someone help me?02:47
ubptgbot<Commander Revan> anyone here had any luch uninstalling ub ports from a nexus 5 to go to a custom rom eg Lineage Os?03:01
ubptgbot<UniversalSuperBox> @o_efemero [I'm having trouble installing Ubuntu touch, it is this error "Mkdir /root/.cache …], Don't run the ubports installer wiht `sudo`03:20
ubptgbot<o_efemero> @UniversalSuperBox [Don't run the ubports installer wiht sudo], Mine is a Port of moto G2 (Titan)03:21
ubptgbot<o_efemero> Thanks03:22
ubptgbot<madmyth> @Fuseteam [hi sadly only those who own that device can bring support to it], very sad for a good value phone as asus zenphone.03:34
ubptgbot<o_efemero> @UniversalSuperBox [Don't run the ubports installer wiht sudo], "failed to enter recovery" appeared here but he opened the recovery, what should I do?03:37
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @madmyth [very sad for a good value phone as asus zenphone.], There's nothing sad about it - this is a community driven effort - so if someone that owns it wants to step up and port it, then they will be supported in their efforts.  But the core UBports developing team focuses exactly on that - developing the core of the OS.  Anyway in03:47
ubptgbotfo on porting is at http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html … and … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html … Also http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/halium_9/Halium_9_GSI_porting.html03:47
ubptgbot<mateosalta> @TotalSonic have you tested any bluetooth devices on your volla03:48
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [@TotalSonic have you tested any bluetooth devices on your volla], Only the iClever keyboards so far - the BK-08 and BK-05 work great with it.  I will test a bluetooth speaker and headphones when I get the chance.  I also have a LG G Watch R on order that should be here soon, I am going to put Asteroid OS on it and see how03:50
ubptgbotwell it syncs with the Volla via the Telescope app.03:50
ubptgbot<mateosalta> ok, when you do have a speaker/headphones, can you test something for me03:51
ubptgbot<mateosalta> pair, and connect with them - turn off bluetooth turn off the device. turn on bluetooth, turn on the device. note if the device auto connects without clicking on it in bluetooth settings03:53
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [pair, and connect with them - turn off bluetooth turn off the device. turn on bl …], Sure - I can try that.  Might need to message you to have you refresh these steps to me, as it will likely be some days before I get around to this.03:56
ubptgbot<mateosalta> if it doesn't work for that, I think i found a fix ;)03:56
ubptgbot<mateosalta> if i remember correctly I always had to go into bluetooth settings on other ut phones too03:57
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @mateosalta [if it doesn't work for that, I think i found a fix ;)], cool. will test this out when I can.03:58
ubptgbot<mateosalta> nice04:00
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @madmyth [very sad for a good value phone as asus zenphone.], if you want you get take a shot at porting it, some porters like tygerpro started with zero experience in porting xD04:06
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @madmyth [very sad for a good value phone as asus zenphone.], [Edit] There's nothing sad about it - this is a community driven effort - so if someone that owns it wants to step up and port it, then they will be supported in their efforts.  But the core UBports developing team focuses exactly on that - developing the core of the OS, and04:22
ubptgbot does not have the ability to port every device requested, especially when they might not own it at all themselves.  Anyway info on porting is at http://docs.halium.org/en/latest/porting/first-steps.html … and … http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/Intro.html … Also http://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/porting/halium_9/Halium_9_GSI_porting.html04:22
ubptgbot<Benni S> Hi, is there any advantage to donating in € via librepay?06:33
ubptgbot<Benni S> [Edit] Hi, is there any advantage to donating in € (compared to other currencies) via librepay?06:33
ubptgbot<Benni S> i.e. costs for currency conversion06:36
ubptgbot<Flohack> @madmyth [very sad for a good value phone as asus zenphone.], I have 7 or 8 phones here on my table, most of which I bought myself, to help porting and QA. Remember this is not an Android ROM so working on getting it ported is much more work than just building it. And even LineageOS does not support every possible Android phone on the pla08:21
ubptgbotnet. There are simply too much08:21
ubptgbot<Dkostarnov> @Fuseteam [hi sadly only those who own that device can bring support to it], Maybe galaxy tab a sm-t355?08:35
ubptgbotAwanatoca was added by: Awanatoca08:36
ubptgbot<Anghirrim> @Fuseteam [fwiw, whatsapp on anbox won't have notifications nor camera support, perhaps not …], This is not a big deal. I just want to be able to read messages. Worst case, there is still WhatsApp Web version for that.08:56
ubptgbotSupermanhans was added by: Supermanhans09:24
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Speaking just now to Rudi Timmermans, the author of the Sailbook UT Facebook client, he stated that he is aware of the problems with the app for the OTA-16 RC, but that he is just going to remove it from the OpenStore, and recommends everyone use the Pesbuk app instead, which does work well with OTA-16 RC.09:37
talmidis it possible to install/compile command line tools for Ubuntu Touch? I would like to compile baresip and build a simple GUI around it09:45
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @talmid [is it possible to install/compile command line tools for Ubuntu Touch? I would l …], You can install command line tools into a Libertine container.  They just need to be built for Ubuntu 16.04 deb (either armhf or arm64 depending on your device) in order to be installed that way.09:49
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @talmid [is it possible to install/compile command line tools for Ubuntu Touch? I would l …], [Edit] You can install command line tools into a Libertine container.  They just need to be built for Ubuntu 16.04 deb (either armhf or arm64 depending on your device) in order to be installed that way, if they are not already in the default r09:50
ubptgbotepositories.09:50
ubptgbot<Talmid Levi> I see, I try it out, thank you09:50
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/Iq0K49SJ.png09:53
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Screenfetch running on the Volla phone09:53
ubptgbot<Talmid Levi> how do you chroot into libertine?10:10
ubptgbot<Talmid Levi> *libertine container10:10
ubptgbot<madmyth> @Flohack [I have 7 or 8 phones here on my table, most of which I bought myself, to help po …], is it possible to do daul boot on android phone with normal ubuntu desktop version ?10:40
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @madmyth [is it possible to do daul boot on android phone with normal ubuntu desktop versi …], No, it is not10:41
ubptgbot<madmyth> thank you , your speaker are nice πŸ€ͺ10:44
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @madmyth [thank you , your speaker are nice πŸ€ͺ], Your welcome, and glad you like them :)  There used to be an "Ubuntu on Android" project - but this was abandoned by Canonical.  And the Samsung DeX project kind of tries to do something similar.  But all of those things are off topic of this group - this group focuses only on Ubuntu Tou10:46
ubptgbotch, which currently does not support dual booting10:46
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @madmyth [thank you , your speaker are nice πŸ€ͺ], [Edit] You're welcome, and glad you like them :)  There used to be an "Ubuntu on Android" project - but this was abandoned by Canonical.  And the Samsung DeX project kind of tries to do something similar.  But all of those things are off topic of this group - this group focuses only on U10:46
ubptgbotbuntu Touch, which currently does not support dual booting10:46
ubptgbot<Talmid Levi> does UT use alsa as audio devices?11:38
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Why don't we built an emulator in ubuntu touch for android apps(much like wine). Also run android apps in isolation. So they don't steal photos, contacts, location11:42
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [Why don't we built an emulator in ubuntu touch for android apps(much like wine). …], That is what Anbox is.  It is in an alpha stage though.11:43
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Pretty much every android app nowadays is a privacy disaster11:43
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @TotalSonic [That is what Anbox is.  It is in an alpha stage though.], Ohh thanykyou I'll look into it11:43
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Talmid Levi [does UT use alsa as audio devices?], Good question - I believe it is using pulse audio and gstreamer - but I am not sure.11:44
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Ohh can I build an app on ubuntu touch that accesses mic driver using pulse audio?11:45
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [Pretty much every android app nowadays is a privacy disaster], https://anbox.io/11:45
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Thanks ⚑ ❀️11:46
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @TotalSonic [https://anbox.io/], I'm using OnePlus 8 Pro. Sadly I can't run ubuntu touch on my device11:46
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Planning to buy a dedicate device for ubuntu touch11:47
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Like pine phone11:47
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [I'm using OnePlus 8 Pro. Sadly I can't run ubuntu touch on my device], unfortunately devices that ship with Android 10 are not quite able to be ported to run UT yet, but there is work being done to change that.  OnePlus makes nice devices though - my wife loves her OnePlus 7T11:50
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Yes but oneplus is also putting Facebook bloatware now11:51
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Every update I see a new background service introduced by OP to steal my data11:52
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> The older ones are nice and also well supported.11:52
ubptgbot<arplusplus> And I don't rely china for my data11:52
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @klaartje_b [The older ones are nice and also well supported.], Yes11:52
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [And I don't rely china for my data], yup, and I don't like to trust Google with my data either.11:52
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @arplusplus [And I don't rely china for my data], Rely*trust11:53
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @TotalSonic [yup, and I don't like to trust Google with my data either.], Same you but for US companies atleast we know government will fuck their happiness if they find11:54
ubptgbot<arplusplus> For Chinese there is not democracy and transparency11:54
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [Rely*trust], Well, the Volla Phone is not quite as good of hardware as the OnePlus 8 Pro - but it is still fast and modern design, and runs UT very nicely on it.11:54
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Yes OP had good hardware11:55
ubptgbot<arplusplus> But software is running a downward slope11:55
ubptgbot<arplusplus> It's not same old OP11:55
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Started as CyanogenMod in USA11:56
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Plus the good co-founder left carl pie11:56
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [Yes OP had good hardware], There is work currently on getting the OnePlus 6T/5/3T/3 running with UT.11:56
ubptgbot<arplusplus> I'm definitely smelling something fishy in background11:56
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Co-founder don't just leave. Company is compromising with ethics11:57
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @TotalSonic [There is work currently on getting the OnePlus 6T/5/3T/3 running with UT.], So I'll buy old OP11:57
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Then second hand11:57
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> OnePlus One works very well with UT, and can be found cheap, if you don't mind old.11:58
ubptgbot<arplusplus> They are super cheap here in India. Like less than 100 dollars11:58
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> I'm very happy with my OP 1 running UT. I use it every day. Only weak point is the camera for now.11:58
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @klaartje_b [I'm very happy with my OP 1 running UT. I use it every day. Only weak point is t …], ❀️❀️11:58
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Will buy next month or so11:58
ubptgbot<arplusplus> I'll also get into development process. I see its using QT for UI11:59
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [Will buy next month or so], You can see the state of how well the supported devices for UT are at https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/11:59
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @TotalSonic [You can see the state of how well the supported devices for UT are at https://de …], Thanks12:00
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Where are you guys buying oneplus one? … I only see new version. Not available on amazon or some second hand website. Looks like oneplus one have disappeared from planet πŸ˜‚πŸ€£12:21
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> I buy them at my local second hand sites... the more local the better.12:23
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> Make sure to get the 64GB.12:24
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ubptgbot<saligari> @Fuseteam [not sure if this will work but perhaps try sudo ubports-qa install libertine 104], You're a wizard! What did I install exactly with the qa 104? Could you point me to a link?16:44
ubptgbot<saligari> Success in setting up a libertine container on oneplus 3! Success installing firefox - can't reach any website though, don't know why. Success installing vlc, it doesn't get further than the icon in black to any UI but it's ok16:45
ubptgbot<saligari> Also, no icon launchers in the menu? Is this normal for libertine installed programmes?16:46
ubptgbot<saligari> sorry if I am spamming, if I am do say so16:46
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ubptgbotamn1987 was added by: amn198717:06
ubptgbot<amn1987> Is it possible to run JDownloader in Ubuntu Touch?17:07
ubptgbot<Javacookies> @saligari [Also, no icon launchers in the menu? Is this normal for libertine installed prog …], I think for libertine you have to refresh the app drawer manually by pulling down17:07
ubptgbot<saligari> @Javacookies [I think for libertine you have to refresh the app drawer manually by pulling dow …], Thanks!!17:13
ubptgbot<dohbee> @amn1987 [Is it possible to run JDownloader in Ubuntu Touch?], i guess you could install it in a libertine container, but taht won't make it usable or useful on the phone17:26
ubptgbot<#mimov2> is there a sailfish os group17:45
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> @#mimov2 [is there a sailfish os group], Yes, and I immediately found it by typing 'sailfishos' in the search bar.17:53
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @klaartje_b [Make sure to get the 64GB.], Ok17:56
ubptgbot<amn1987> @dohbee [i guess you could install it in a libertine container, but taht won't make it us …], Thanks.17:57
ubptgbot<#mimov2> @klaartje_b [Yes, and I immediately found it by typing 'sailfishos' in the search bar.], i found only russian one18:12
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> What about @SFOSFanclub?18:56
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @saligari [Success in setting up a libertine container on oneplus 3! Success installing fir …], Firefox 84 in th repos crashes -but Firefox-esr 78 works. You can download it here https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/2090473119:36
ubptgbot<Dumb_fellow> Any update on one plus 5?19:41
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Dkostarnov [Maybe galaxy tab a sm-t355?], same story, as long as it is not on devices.ubunut-touch.io the owner of the device has to port it19:59
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @saligari [You're a wizard! What did I install exactly with the qa 104? Could you point me …], you installed this pull request: https://github.com/ubports/libertine/pull/104 it appears quite a number of packages get rebuilt with it20:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Anghirrim [This is not a big deal. I just want to be able to read messages. Worst case, the …], guess that's true haha whatsapp web has the same limitations on ut currently20:11
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @Talmid Levi [I see, I try it out, thank you], if you want to build a gui app around a commandline tool that is certainly possible, even without libertine, you may be interested in joining https://t.me/UbuntuAppDevEn20:12
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> For users of the MeWe privacy respecting social media site - I have removed the basic "MeWe UT" webapp from the OpenStore - because Rudi Timmermans graciously created a much better working webapp which remembers logins, and which has proper scaling - you can download it here https://open-store.io/app/mewe.meweapp20:40
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/zmw0gNTO.png20:47
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Current "home" screen for my Volla - now my daily driver :)20:47
ubptgbot<Braillynn> @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], That looks beautiful20:51
ubptgbot<Braillynn> What is the app that looks like a lightbulb?20:51
ubptgbot<amyosx> utorch20:51
ubptgbot<amyosx> iirc20:51
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Braillynn [That looks beautiful], It's a pic of a trail that is near me taken by a pro photographer.20:52
ubptgbot<Braillynn> I miss walking on trails, waiting for all the snow to melt.20:52
ubptgbot<amyosx> i want ut on moto g7 play20:53
ubptgbot<amyosx> it would be a nice ut device20:53
ubptgbot<amyosx> miui and styxos works good for now20:54
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @TotalSonic [<reply to media>], Wow looks good20:54
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @amyosx [utorch], Yup - uTorch only works on a few devices, but works well with Volla. Easier to turn on the flashlight from it when in a rush than messing with the Battery indicator control20:54
ubptgbot<amyosx> yeah20:54
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Can't wait to quit android20:54
ubptgbot<amyosx> i like using both for different things20:55
ubptgbot<amyosx> but ut is awesome20:55
ubptgbot<amyosx> also i should try to port to iphone 5s20:55
ubptgbot<arplusplus> My maintain concerns are with privacy. I don't like Google knowing what time I shit. Whom I'm dating. Where I'm going. Who's emailing me. Who's calling me20:56
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @amyosx [also i should try to port to iphone 5s], That would be a lot of work - but major props to you if you can figure out how to port UT onto an Apple iOS device20:57
ubptgbot<arplusplus> You spend more time on phones than laptop/pc20:57
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @TotalSonic [That would be a lot of work - but major props to you if you can figure out how t …], I think it's a good idea. Since iphones are more stable20:58
ubptgbot<arplusplus> And android devices are literally too many20:58
ubptgbot<arplusplus> In numbers20:58
ubptgbot<ilikeyacutgAAAAA> @TotalSonic [That would be a lot of work - but major props to you if you can figure out how t …], arent their cpus different?20:59
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Actually I was thinking of this but didn't speak. I had no idea about Apple's bootloader and stuff20:59
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [I think it's a good idea. Since iphones are more stable], Well, so far no one has done it, because it doesn't have a Linux kernel base to it, or Android blobs which libhybris can work with20:59
ubptgbot<amyosx> @TotalSonic [That would be a lot of work - but major props to you if you can figure out how t …], i know how to boot a linux kernek20:59
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Yes it's unix20:59
ubptgbot<amyosx> @TotalSonic [That would be a lot of work - but major props to you if you can figure out how t …], [Edit] i know how to boot a linux kernel20:59
ubptgbot<amyosx> with checkm821:00
ubptgbot<ilikeyacutgAAAAA> march 121:00
ubptgbot<amyosx> just got to fix some stuff on a721:00
ubptgbot<ilikeyacutgAAAAA> what21:00
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @amyosx [i know how to boot a linux kernel], Yeah, I've seen news of folks getting that working for some of the older iPhones21:00
ubptgbot<amyosx> yeah should work fine on a8-a1121:01
ubptgbot<arplusplus> @TotalSonic [Yeah, I've seen news of folks getting that working for some of the older iPhones], Where?21:01
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @arplusplus [Where?], https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Linux+on+iphone&t=h_&ia=web21:01
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Damn21:02
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> That's just a first step to a port - then would come a lot more hard stuff to figure out21:02
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> I have faith in @amyosx though ☺21:03
ubptgbot<arplusplus> Man my one plus 8 pro has no good rom … Not lineage. Not graphene. Nothing but some carbon rom. That doesn't look very interesting from privacy stand point21:06
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> if you are interesting you could port it in your spare time xD21:09
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> tho halium 10 is a work in progress21:10
ubptgbot<ilikeyacutgAAAAA> halium 1021:10
ubptgbot<ilikeyacutgAAAAA> what if my device originally shipped with android 921:10
ubptgbot<ilikeyacutgAAAAA> i feel like its the wrong group to ask in21:10
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> @Fuseteam [if you are interesting you could port it in your spare time xD], I know this is a typo but I consider all our porters interesting!  πŸ˜21:10
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @klaartje_b [I know this is a typo but I consider all our porters interesting!  πŸ˜], what typo :^321:12
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @ilikeyacutgAAAAA [what if my device originally shipped with android 9], if it shipped with android 9, you can use halium 9 xD21:12
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> @Fuseteam [what typo :^3], πŸ˜…21:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> which is in a much better state than halium 1021:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @klaartje_b [I know this is a typo but I consider all our porters interesting!  πŸ˜], ........oh now i see πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ21:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> [Edit] if you are interested you could port it in your spare time xD21:13
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> shamelessly edits21:14
ubptgbot<ilikeyacutgAAAAA> @Fuseteam [if it shipped with android 9, you can use halium 9 xD], nice21:17
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Are there any plans to clean up the Open Store when OTA-16 comes out by unpublishing "Webapp+" webapps that use Ogra/Oxide?   Otherwise I think it leads to confusion and frustration when people install webapps that crash on them if they are kept in, and keeps people from as easily finding the options that are working.21:22
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> I went ahead and unpublished all the Ogra based webapps I had put in the OpenStore a few months ago.21:23
ubptgbotLudie Hancock was added by: Ludie Hancock21:23
ubptgbot<TartanSpartan> What if there could be a feature which says you can only install them in you're still on OTA-15 or below? That might be good as a stopgap to allow developers to catch up and update the webengine in their webapps.21:57
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @TartanSpartan [What if there could be a feature which says you can only install them in you're …], A lot of these webapps are old (pre-2018) and often abandoned by their maintainers.22:11
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> ... but a warning would be fine as well.22:12
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Does anyone know of a link to with a tutorial suitable for noob dummies to setting up Syncthing on UT and a remote computer?  I haven't been able to figure it out yet - seems maybe it is not working properly on the Volla phone, but I want to make sure it is not user error.22:18
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> [Edit] Does anyone know of a link to a tutorial suitable for noob dummies to setting up Syncthing on UT and a remote computer?  I haven't been able to figure it out yet - seems maybe it is not working properly on the Volla phone, but I want to make sure it is not user error.22:18
ubptgbot<klaartje_b> Very good question! It feels like a powerful tool but it scares me because of that, I don't know how to set it up properly.22:19
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> Yeah, I really am missing UBsync because it was so easy to setup, and easy for me to understand, but it is not working for arm64 devices yet.22:20
ubptgbot<Ludie Hancock> Woooow!  I gotted bitcoin with π’Άπ’Ύπ“‡π’Ήπ“‡π‘œπ“… Ellon-Musk!  https://bit.ly/2NR6iou22:21
ubptgbot<dohbee> @TartanSpartan [What if there could be a feature which says you can only install them in you're …], importing oxide directly was never officially supported anyway. and we didn't require a `16.04-oxide` or such framework for those apps, so there was nothing we could remove that would simply have prevented them from even being shown by opens22:25
ubptgbottore now22:25
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [Are there any plans to clean up the Open Store when OTA-16 comes out by unpublis …], i think they won't be visible anymore similar to how 15.04 apps aren't visible anymore22:31
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [importing oxide directly was never officially supported anyway. and we didn't re …], oh i wrong πŸ€”22:32
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @dohbee [importing oxide directly was never officially supported anyway. and we didn't re …], [Edit] oh i'm wrong πŸ€”22:33
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [i think they won't be visible anymore similar to how 15.04 apps aren't visible a …], all my webapps use the old 15.04 framework because they were made with Webapp Creator - and those are visible.22:33
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [all my webapps use the old 15.04 framework because they were made with Webapp Cr …], that's not the same i think, there are a lot of old 15.04 apps that simply aren't visible anymore22:33
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @Fuseteam [that's not the same i think, there are a lot of old 15.04 apps that simply aren' …], that's true.  App Scopes no longer appear22:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> @Fuseteam [that's not the same i think, there are a lot of old 15.04 apps that simply aren' …], the ones that were only ever published in vivid channel on openstore are not available to download any more22:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> apps that use the `15.04` frameworks would still be visible, if published in the xenial channel22:34
ubptgbot<dohbee> i'm not sure how many of those there are, though22:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> ah that explains it22:34
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> guess once we get to focal the unmaintained applications won't show up anymore22:35
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> as we would then have a focal channel22:35
ubptgbot<mateosalta> There was a bit of inspection to see that they were webapp+ so I think most could be filtered from the store22:36
ubptgbot<dohbee> if there's nothing left that are normal apps/webapps using 15.04 frameworks, perhaps we could remove them from the system now22:37
ubptgbot<dohbee> also the 13.10, 14.04, and 14.10 frameworks we can probably remove now i hope22:38
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @dohbee [if there's nothing left that are normal apps/webapps using 15.04 frameworks, per …], I use a good number of webapps built with the 15.04 framework that I find very useful.22:46
ubptgbotLuke P was added by: Luke P22:53
ubptgbot<Luke P> Hi22:53
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> @TotalSonic [I use a good number of webapps built with the 15.04 framework that I find very u …], then they should be repackage i guess πŸ€”23:05
ubptgbot<X YZ> @TotalSonic [Does anyone know of a link to a tutorial suitable for noob dummies to setting up …], While i have no experience using syncthing in UT (yet), it is syncing my Ubuntu laptop with my android phone just fine. I installed and the tried with a test folder I created for the purpose, to make sure I did not break anything. Should be simi23:10
ubptgbotlar in UT, find it very useful. … Happy to help what I can later tomorrow. … There is also the Syncthing Unofficial Chat group at … https://t.me/SyncthingChat23:10
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> is the Syncthing UT version not confined?23:24
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @X YZ [While i have no experience using syncthing in UT (yet), it is syncing my Ubuntu …], Thanks!23:34
ubptgbot<TotalSonic> @PiecerEdd [is the Syncthing UT version not confined?], It is unconfined (as is UBsync) - use at your own risk23:34
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @TotalSonic [It is unconfined (as is UBsync) - use at your own risk], well, I'm not worried about it running wild and eating my phone, just worried about it physically not being able to sync certain folders because it doesn't have access to it πŸ˜†23:36
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> guess that's why it is unconfined23:37
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> the Android version has a really annoying problem (not ST's fault, 100% the fault of 'droid) that stops you being able to use it for syncing folders on your external SD card23:37
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> just worried about running into similar walls πŸ˜†23:38
ubptgbot<Fuseteam> yeah we don't have those walls on ut afaik23:41
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> well.. most apps do πŸ˜†23:46
ubptgbot<X YZ> @PiecerEdd [the Android version has a really annoying problem (not ST's fault, 100% the faul …], Not fully true, as discussed here: … https://forum.syncthing.net/t/android-11-all-files-access-for-the-syncthing-app/14651/3923:56
ubptgbot<PiecerEdd> @X YZ [Not fully true, as discussed here: … https://forum.syncthing.net/t/android-11-all- …], yeah, for the one phone in the world that's actually running Android 11 πŸ˜†23:59

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