| lotuspsychje | good morning | 03:59 |
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| ducasse | good morning | 07:14 |
| EddyKid | howdy all I was directed here by #Ubuntu | 15:44 |
| EddyKid | so apologies for the "repost", haha | 15:44 |
| EddyKid | 11:41 PM <EddyKid> I don't know if this is the right channel for this - I want to talk about some... Uhh, development considerations, both development and business. | 15:44 |
| EddyKid | 11:41 PM <EddyKid> If this isn't the place the obvious question is "where" in a way that is a 2 way conversation not just blind submission | 15:44 |
| EddyKid | 11:42 PM <EddyKid> "Thank you for your feedback, it went to noreply@ but irrelevant, THANK YOU!" | 15:44 |
| EddyKid | 11:42 PM <EddyKid> :P | 15:44 |
| EddyKid | Anyway, TLDR isssss... A /lot/ of consumers want plug and play accessibility to their phones. And MOST of those wont have fancy phone mounts or other peripherals.. | 15:48 |
| EddyKid | At this moment, only Samsung has actually delivered a complete "remote desktop" style product - ie a full remote screen with responsive IO (uses UDP for display, TCP for the input) | 15:48 |
| EddyKid | A small segue is; Sadly, they've achieved with Windows as a partner (DeX now available as standard in the Your Phone app which is as close as I get to DeX with my pixel 3 xl... | 15:49 |
| EddyKid | Thinclient style capabilities are core - and if we're honest, android code is nothing but glorified "not-java" | 15:50 |
| EddyKid | Now, stay with me here lol | 15:50 |
| EddyKid | WSL2 is a /big deal/ in the windows world | 15:50 |
| EddyKid | available even on a Home licence, it allows ubunu, again, an "in" for their already produced (even on the windows store available) WSL2 using build... | 15:53 |
| EddyKid | But that the build was universally plug and play, across a great many brands. | 15:53 |
| EddyKid | I would be happy to help start covering the major brands with long term use of the same android versions type of thing (ie those that aren't going anywhere) | 15:53 |
| EddyKid | It's not a "solve here and now" thing, but i'm open to helping if it's desirable I guess? | 15:54 |
| EddyKid | I can ofcourse write up/figure out a full proposal through the correct channels | 15:54 |
| EddyKid | submit a writeup* | 15:55 |
| lotuspsychje | EddyKid: let me decipher a question out of your monologue? | 17:34 |
| EddyKid | lol ty | 17:38 |
| lotuspsychje | i was being ironic EddyKid lets try a real discussion? | 17:39 |
| EddyKid | TLDR Android has a gaming grade responsive remote access to the devices video/audio/modems/etc | 17:39 |
| EddyKid | Windows is working hard with Samsung to keep it a samsung feature | 17:39 |
| EddyKid | Which presents an opportunity for linux, which runs just great in a WSL2 container, to step in | 17:40 |
| EddyKid | "Beat them to the punch" kind of thing | 17:40 |
| lotuspsychje | hows this related to ubuntu? | 17:40 |
| EddyKid | End goal would be this same support for all devices | 17:40 |
| EddyKid | the WSL2 component is only relevant to me | 17:40 |
| EddyKid | But! as a windows user, I can and do keep this container on my Windows machines auto-updated | 17:41 |
| EddyKid | Anyway, the point is, adding this universal functionality to "linux", would then be available on windows and mac (through different tech) devices. | 17:42 |
| EddyKid | Which, to be clear again DeX is basically just a UDP video stream and TCP input controls | 17:42 |
| EddyKid | But baked into the kernel | 17:42 |
| lotuspsychje | let me go grab a coffee while you talk to yourself | 17:43 |
| EddyKid | The main other option is Teamviewer for <specific model here> | 17:43 |
| EddyKid | That's pretty much it. | 17:43 |
| EddyKid | It could be a big differentiator for one benefit to the org, it is currently an "exclusive/premium" feature for like 70%++ of people using [not Samsung], and will run just by updating the core OS, just perfectly on Mac and PC. | 17:45 |
| EddyKid | https://github.com/Genymobile/scrcpy | 17:54 |
| lotuspsychje | let us know if you want to discuss something ubuntu related EddyKid | 17:55 |
| EddyKid | This is the "generic receiving point" and employs an (afaik) self-written (amongst many) "emulators" | 17:57 |
| EddyKid | You miss the point sir. | 17:57 |
| EddyKid | Or madam. | 17:57 |
| daftykins | so you think ubuntu should offer some kind of mobile integration so you can type on your phone... hang on though, you'd already be at your computer, so...? | 17:57 |
| daftykins | also note Kubuntu has some mobile features | 17:58 |
| EddyKid | The /point/ is by adding telephony to the core stack, and given it can already run WELL on both mac and windows... | 17:58 |
| EddyKid | Check out the MS YourPhone app on windows 10. If you're more keen, and have a recent model samsung device - Checkout DeX, the product of 3 generations of product cycle - to a fantastic result. | 18:00 |
| daftykins | not interested in anything you've said | 18:02 |
| EddyKid | lol well that's very dismissive; It's been a huge success for Samsung with literally 10,000 people wishing for this feature after switching and not having it | 18:07 |
| EddyKid | But then i'm not sure you care about anything xD | 18:07 |
| daftykins | i won't buy Samsung devices and i don't have any interest in tying my phone into my desktop OS :) that's hardly everything | 18:08 |
| EddyKid | ... So then you could stand to benefit from such an integration | 18:09 |
| EddyKid | But don't care about it haha | 18:09 |
| daftykins | no | 18:09 |
| EddyKid | I'm not asking you to build it | 18:09 |
| EddyKid | I'm not even going to build it myself, i'm not experienced in that specific field | 18:09 |
| daftykins | that's apparent | 18:09 |
| EddyKid | ... That was redundant. I've worked 15 years in telephony and related software development | 18:10 |
| EddyKid | You're making the community appear toxic and apathetic; Luckily for the community <you> matter less than <everyone> and <statistics> | 18:11 |
| daftykins | there's no value to your ramblings because there's no consistent well thought out message, just a bunch of buzzwords and brands tossed together | 18:11 |
| daftykins | "you people should do a thing! YEAH, who's with me?" | 18:11 |
| EddyKid | ... The question was where and how to implement it and if anybody thought it was a good idea; Not once did I request expressions of non-interest because <too many words for your brain> | 18:12 |
| EddyKid | Not sure you understand how science works. | 18:13 |
| daftykins | ok so you're already trying to make things personal, best of luck with achieving anything on this network, cya | 18:13 |
| daftykins | ignore set | 18:13 |
| EddyKid | Technically I can ofc being a Pixel, root my device and just install a framebuffer driver and bluetooth mouse driver using existing softwaree | 18:14 |
| EddyKid | But that's no solution for the /average/ user | 18:14 |
| EddyKid | And again the reason ubuntu is prime for this opportunity is because it will run fast and light as a wrapper for said potential capabilities to largely all systems. | 18:15 |
| EddyKid | atleast the most relevant windows/mac users | 18:15 |
| EddyKid | And to anyone who cares to do a modicum of market research, it's a /hugely/ desirable feature | 18:15 |
| * lotuspsychje is reading a phonebook with popcorn | 18:17 | |
| EddyKid | I mean, to lay it down simple, people want to answer calls, access the data on their phone, using the phone directly vs a sync of any kind - possibly because it's a "secure" device (ie government) - and be able to send/receive whatever they want (including calls/mms/etc), to their PC | 18:17 |
| EddyKid | That PC /generally/ won't be directly running linux/ubuntu. | 18:18 |
| EddyKid | But yet ubuntu is very efficiently available, even for single app containers, on both systems. | 18:18 |
| EddyKid | It's an inticement for both sides to be running an Ubuntu instance where otherwis they simply wouldn't at all. | 18:19 |
| EddyKid | The wider the brand support - the better - even if that means direct vendor integration of techs - it's linux on linux essentially. Canonical doesn't make $0 a year | 18:20 |
| EddyKid | And there isn't that many major players to get onboard for an essentially free to them offering | 18:20 |
| EddyKid | Yet ubuntu will infact be running behind the scenes on a vast amount of non-native linux users. | 18:21 |
| EddyKid | Anyway, I did say if there's a better avenue to present this argument; please let me know | 18:23 |
| EddyKid | (it's a bit too big in scope to be a forum post) | 18:23 |
| lotuspsychje | EddyKid: have you been able to formulate a question to discuss yet? | 18:42 |
| oerheks | i want wsl-3 | 18:44 |
| lotuspsychje | lol | 18:45 |
| EddyKid | "Urp imma mute u dikk" "Helo guy ru still <whatever>" | 18:53 |
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