 @dohbee [please open an issue about this], ok
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 @fredldotme [We don't have any Huawei ports at the moment, and considering they have mostly l …], i wanted to root one huawei tablet but then found out that i need to contact huawei to unlock bootloader
 maybe it is so because of huawei being chinese company
 and adapted to china
 I kinda miss having a tablet...how's the Xperia Z4 port? … it seems to be hard to find though
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 Z4 still needs that 4G SIM functionality last I checked.
 @Javacookies also check if you can find Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus
 @TartanSpartan [Z4 still needs that 4G SIM functionality last I checked.], personally, I won't really use that feature. I don't even have data on my phone 😄
 @NotKit [@Javacookies also check if you can find Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus], oh is that an upcoming port? it's not in the devices yet
 @NotKit [@Javacookies also check if you can find Lenovo Tab M10 FHD Plus], That would be a great device to have ported
 I've created the repo and CI builds, but not device page yet :) will add soon
 4G on my M10 would have been great for all this time I've spent without a 4G phone.
 Nice, I'll try to check if I can find one … what's the exact model? The naming seems to be confusing and there's 2nd gen?
 2nd gen (with Helio)
 [Edit] 2nd gen (with MediaTek Helio SoC)
[07:06] <ubptgbot> <Sunny Patel> latter
 oh it's quite new … I can see a lot of brand new
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 @dohbee [How are you concluding that internet is not working in anbox?], I tried to install applications that need the Internet .... all applications instantly show an error that there is no Internet
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 @im_not_dead_seiwer [I tried to install applications that need the Internet .... all applications ins …], which device? maybe an issue specific to that device … I'm pretty sure internet has been working on Anbox
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 @Javacookies [which device? maybe an issue specific to that device … I'm pretty sure internet ha …], Device - Redmi 7 (Native port 15 OTA)
 @Javacookies [which device? maybe an issue specific to that device … I'm pretty sure internet ha …], yeah I used telegram android in anbox with no problems
 @Javacookies [which device? maybe an issue specific to that device … I'm pretty sure internet ha …], [Edit] yeah I was using telegram android in anbox with no problems
 except poor anmations
 @CC_JingOS [I'm thinking about porting JingOS to my Galaxy Tab], Which Tab are you talking about? If its a Tab S2 then its probably not worth it since there is proper android custom rom support there
 @UniversalSuperBox [Does it currently use hybris?], I don't think they use it yet
 but if they would want to sell real phones they have to support it
 [Edit] but if they would want to sell real phones/tablets they have to support it
[11:35] <Fuseteam> <ubptgbot "<Javacookies> I kinda miss havin"> currently having issues to install ut in the welcome room
 To everyone using the Google Pixel 3a on the devel channel: An upgrade to todays devel image is advised, the leftovers of the old ofono restarter script are gone and shouldn't interfere with the new ofono/ril workaround by NotKit anymore.
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 @DD1 [Which Tab are you talking about? If its a Tab S2 then its probably not worth it …], S6
 Hi. I wanted to install ghostcloud but on my device I cant find it on openstore.  but it is on the webpage.  is it a qt version  "problem"?
 there seems to be a new version that requires OTA-16 so sadly, the app cannot be seen on the OpenStore if you're on stable
 Could I change to unstable? Or do I need to reinstall?
 you can switch to RC if you want it now but you can wait for OTA16 to be released which will be next week
 OK so I wait.  but how to switch? Via console?
 in update settings
 Settings > Update > Settings icon in the header > Channels
 oh wait, you're still on OTA-15 sp `Settings > Update > Update Settings > Channels`
 [Edit] oh wait, you're still on OTA-15 so `Settings > Update > Update Settings > Channels`
[14:39] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @NotKit [would anyone be interested in UBPorts for Lenovo Tab M10 FHD (TB-X606X)?], Btw, do you (or anybody) happen to know if the bootloader source for this device is available anywhere?  … Was just chatting with one ABM-dev about the possibility of making this into an Android-UT-dual-booting nice little tablet ...
 @X YZ [Btw, do you (or anybody) happen to know if the bootloader source for this device …], likely no
 @CC_JingOS [S6], Why on such a modern tablet tho?
[14:45] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @NotKit [likely no], Thanks, I was afraid you would confirm that. Mediatek. .. 😪
 @Javacookies [oh wait, you're still on OTA-15 so Settings > Update > Update Settings > Channel …], thx
 @X YZ [Thanks, I was afraid you would confirm that. Mediatek. .. 😪], in fact, this is something that will be true for most commercially released devices. We were just lucky to have full BSP with Volla
 @NotKit [in fact, this is something that will be true for most commercially released devi …], What is bsp?
 board support package
 @NotKit [board support package], Ok
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 OK I was an idiot and deleted
 @amyosx [OK I was an idiot and deleted], Ok
 you wut 👀
 Deleted my account
 Now I have to rejoin
 welp
 Hey maybe teleports will be usable again
[15:19] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @NotKit [in fact, this is something that will be true for most commercially released devi …], The whole Vollaphone/OS really has given things a boost and moved things forward.
 Now I'm not in nearly 150 groups
 @X YZ [The whole Vollaphone/OS really has given things a boost and moved things forward …], yes and it is unique that we get "full" access to what we need :p
 @amyosx [Hey maybe teleports will be usable again], Teleport freezing with my account
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/KtPmCMfS.webp
 @DarknessHiddenorg [Teleport freezing with my account], try few times
 then it runs more or less stable
 @NotKit [then it runs more or less stable], Yes tested
 @NotKit [try few times], And how to send media with it?
 but yeah, I had much more luck with web Telegram on Volla
[15:22] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Fuseteam [yes and it is unique that we get "full" access to what we need :p], Hopefully the first multi-boot-phone that realls works as a dd (mostly, and sorry PP, but you are not really there yet for most users 😉) will give the whole idea of alternative OS more interest and coverage. 🤞
 @DarknessHiddenorg [And how to send media with it?], should work fine once content-hub (AppArmor-related) is fixed
 @NotKit [should work fine once content-hub (AppArmor-related) is fixed], But I'm still using selinux
 time to switch :)
 If enable apparmor app will unable to open
 @NotKit [time to switch :)], Yes any apparmor rulex?
 you probably need kernel patches for 4.14(?)
 @NotKit [you probably need kernel patches for 4.14(?)], Already patc
 Just enable config
 [Edit] Just need enable config
 @NotKit [you probably need kernel patches for 4.14(?)], https://github.com/areyoudeveloper/android_kernel_xiaomi_mt6768/commit/fc63dd79a799e3a94f1c06043fef503a71b5e02e
 Is a native Telegram to ubuntu phone?
 Cant find it on software center
 it's called TELEports
 Thanks a ñor
 Thanks a lot
 @X YZ [Hopefully the first multi-boot-phone that realls works as a dd (mostly, and sorr …], it might, still a lot to do tho
 @Flohack I believe UBports should participate in https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/  … this way UT can be brought to more people and maybe we can get more native apps and perhaps more hands to work on UT itself
 @lackingcheesepuffs [@Flohack I believe UBports should participate in https://summerofcode.withgoogle …], Sure, nice, but someone needs to drive it and find reasonable projects :)
 Teleports and an NFC scanner app I would say
 or "port a device" xD
 [Edit] or even "port a device" xD
 [Edit] or even "port a device" 😆/s
 I'd prefer platform work here
 platform work?
 Storage framework and keeper for example
 we do need mentors for GSoC projects too
 Yes
 hmmm i have a feeling i heard of keeper somewhere 🤔
 Anbox :)
 @Javacookies [it's called TELEports], And it works fine! ❤️
 Anbox would be cool but I agree, those frameworks would be cooler and more beneficial 😄
 I'm wondering... if UBports would build their own Signal client, would it be called SIGports?
 We wouldn't build our own Signal client
 Becuase Axolotl exists :)
 @klaartje_b [I'm wondering... if UBports would build their own Signal client, would it be cal …], UBports =/= ubuntu touch
 @klaartje_b [I'm wondering... if UBports would build their own Signal client, would it be cal …], [Edit] UBports =/= ubuntu touch ;)
 It was super hypothetical. A 'what if' question.
 KDE has k-everything, why not just *Port everything?
 [Edit] KDE has k-everything, why not just *Ports everything?
 That was my thinking.
 @NotKit [Anbox :)], ah of course :)
 @PhoenixLandPirate [KDE has k-everything, why not just *Ports everything?], sooo Ubuntu Ports? oh wait 🤔
 @Fuseteam [sooo Ubuntu Ports? oh wait 🤔], I think people who are new to UBports and UBuntu Touch, are already a bit confused about the difference between UBports, Ubuntu Touch, and how Ubuntu Touch is different from Ubuntu main.
 i know that's the joke
 [Edit] i know, that's the joke
 We had u as our k for a while "uNav" "uPixelfed" "uAdBlock" "uReadIt" I dont mind it, but it doesn't make sorting alphabetically very useful.
 why not both :^3
 uUBReadIt
 rolls right off the tongue
 UReadPorts
 [Edit] UReadports
 Thanks, I hate it
 🙃
 @UniversalSuperBox [uUBReadIt], I think we have our next lead of marketing !
 😂
 Lmao
 After downloading RC I can press restart and install.. But nothing happens.. Even a Manuel restart doesn't change it.
 that's a sickness of the system update … if you leave the `Download` or `Update` button for some time, they'll refuse to that what they're suppose to do 😅
 If you go to About and press Check for Updates, it should update its state correctly
 Unless you're already on the newest update
 that sometimes work … or turn off wifi/mobile network while in the update page … and turn it back on
 I think to remember that someone said pushing the button 'a hundred' times works.
 (Sticker, 512x512) https://irc.ubports.com/tzlXHhxd.webp
 @UniversalSuperBox [If you go to About and press Check for Updates, it should update its state corre …], Well it doesnt always. It can also get stuck on either showing progress bar, or checking for updates. The sync between backend and UI is flawed, not all states have been implemented
 Found my way: selecting rc again restart download.. Just for a second..then I could restart and install
 Also, prediciton of progress bar is a joke, when its at 100% and then jumps back lol
 Is there a bridged room in matrix for this room
 There is not. You can join the #ubports room on Freenode
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 sometimes pressing the restart button longer than usual also works 😄
 @HengYeDev [Is there a bridged room in matrix for this room], It is working well with https://github.com/tulir/mautrix-telegram/
 naughty updates page 😆
 That's completely random. When you press the update and restart button, it really just tells system-image to start downloading an update.
 [Edit] That's completely random. When you press the update and restart button, it really just tells system-image to start installing an update.
 If system-image hasn't downloaded an update yet, it will and then install it. If it's busy downloading an update, it'll hear you but not do anything until the download is finished downloading.
 If there is no update to download, it ignores you.
 the install button shouldn't be there if it's not downloaded yet
 it should show download button instead, iirc
 It is there if the update was previously downloaded but not installed.
 Since system-settings maintains its own, separate update database.
 there is an issue when switching channels where an image will be "downloaded" but can't be installed
 Again me: I couldn't open html files from disc in morph browser...
 Does anyone know what the story is on the state of Ubuntu Touch on the fxtec Pro1? It looks like it has come a slight bit further than the Volla phone, but the device page doesn't give any details.
 @Oliv4945 [It is working well with https://github.com/tulir/mautrix-telegram/], what's the URL?
 You need to run that bridge on your own homeserver
 @dohbee [there is an issue when switching channels where an image will be "downloaded" bu …], We should review its tests, it seems we dint cover all edge cases
 @aribk [Does anyone know what the story is on the state of Ubuntu Touch on the fxtec Pro …], Well we are not maintaining this port in the core team, hard to say
 @Flohack [Well we are not maintaining this port in the core team, hard to say], Is the core team involved with the Volla phone?
 @aribk [Is the core team involved with the Volla phone?], Yes
 But not 100% core lol
 Its difficult...
 OK. Who would know more about the fxtec Pro1?
 Me probably. In terms of overall stability Pro1 port is behind Volla Phone actually, just the page didn't get updated
 Current issue is that Pro1-X is going to be basically a new device now with different SoC/BSP
 it's a great phone x
 @Danfro [I think to remember that someone said pushing the button 'a hundred' times works …], Like that flipnote hack
 @NotKit [Current issue is that Pro1-X is going to be basically a new device now with diff …], That's exciting! Do you anticipate a lot of development time before it could be viable as a daily driver/main device?
 Pressing the button 100 times
 Exactly
 @aribk [That's exciting! Do you anticipate a lot of development time before it could be …], original Pro1 or Pro1-X?
 @NotKit [original Pro1 or Pro1-X?], The latter, mainly.
 And may I PM you on another question, @NotKit ?
 @mateosalta @Javacookies did either of you open an issue about the "blank" windows?
 @aribk [That's exciting! Do you anticipate a lot of development time before it could be …], actually it isn't exciting because the replacement is slower (though newer) and that also means more work for the ports 😅
 @dohbee [@mateosalta @Javacookies did either of you open an issue about the "blank" windo …], not me
 I guess Mateo's better to do it since he has the sample app
 ironically 2048-qt doesn't show global menus on my vm, but does on my nexus
 @aribk [And may I PM you on another question, @NotKit ?], Ok
 @Javacookies [actually it isn't exciting because the replacement is slower (though newer) and …], OK. I wasn't aware of that. So, how would you judge the Pro1-X compared to the Pro1?
 @aribk [The latter, mainly.], Depends on Halium 11 state when device actually materializes
 that crowdfunding campaign's fate really went bad because I backed it...it's my curse 😆
 lol
 meanwhile i would love if we could get this going xD: https://forums.ubports.com/topic/4630/ubuntu-touch-mainline-generic-amd64-issue/19
 ^ That would be rad.
 @NotKit [but yeah, I had much more luck with web Telegram on Volla], TELEports working well with Volla for me.
 it probably depends on amount of messages/groups in the account
 But may not quite have feature parity with WebTelegram yet IIRC.
 @NotKit [it probably depends on amount of messages/groups in the account], Yeah, I just use Telegram for a few chat groups like this and a few personal contacts. But I use it daily
 @NotKit [it probably depends on amount of messages/groups in the account], it appears to depends on the groups more, according to flo it only loads the last message for preview per group
 I probably have few hundred chats, so it may be trying to load all of the chat list at once...
 where's that message again 🤔
 @NotKit [I probably have few hundred chats, so it may be trying to load all of the chat l …], yeah that could be it
 found it: https://t.me/ubports_qa_team/40764
 chat is pm/group/channel
 Does anyone know how I could open an html file from the storage of my device?   when I press open i don't get the morph app as a choice.
 uh not sure that's currently possible tbh
 what are you trying to do?
 I export a list for a game as a htmk file. I transfer it per nextcloud to my nexus 7 were I want to open it
 @marc_petschke [Does anyone know how I could open an html file from the storage of my device? …], Yeah, this is an essential feature that is missing from Morph
 🥴
 @marc_petschke [Does anyone know how I could open an html file from the storage of my device? …], Still having same problem, and no solution.
 @livrecinq [Still having same problem, and no solution.], True. Please open an issue about that on github. According to this issue, you might be able to navigate to the file in morph addressbar though. As a workaround.
 https://github.com/ubports/morph-browser/issues/381
 Firefox-esr 78 running in a Libertine container can open local files, but the display of the file manager in the open dialog goes off the screen on phones.
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/utE8xH9E.png
 Local file opened in Firefox-esr 78 in Libertine. Note that the current Firefox 84 in the default repositories crashes in most devices in Ubuntu Touch currently. You can get Firefox 78 at https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+build/20904731 … https://launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+builds?build_state=b
[20:02] <ubptgbot> uilt
 Pasting the local file url into Morph results in an error though
 (Photo, 1080x2340) https://irc.ubports.com/IObfWRDX.png
 @Javacookies [that crowdfunding campaign's fate really went bad because I backed it...it's my …], Don't really understand what you meant by that? And does the Pro1 work well running UT, or is the story the same there as with the Pro1-X?
 He means in a jokingly superstitious way, that him backing the campaign meant that the campaign didn't turn out so well.
 @Danfro [True. Please open an issue about that on github. According to this issue, you mi …], Is it worth to qualify it as « issue » ? I am not sure.
 @livrecinq [Is it worth to qualify it as « issue » ? I am not sure.], yesno. It is partially a feature request. But being a browser not opening html files I consider a bug too. In any case worth mentioning.
 I think the Pro1 works reasonably well according to a video comparing it for UT vs Sailfish; does anyone have that link?
 @Danfro [yesno. It is partially a feature request. But being a browser not opening html f …], I agree. But there are already too many problems to solve, i would not like to load the with secondary things.
 @Danfro [yesno. It is partially a feature request. But being a browser not opening html f …], [Edit] I agree. But there are already too many problems to solve, i would not like to load the boat with secondary things.
 @livrecinq [I agree. But there are already too many problems to solve, i would not like to l …], I did leave a message in the issue I posted above. If someone picks it up it can become an issue. If not, well, then not. :-9
 @livrecinq [I agree. But there are already too many problems to solve, i would not like to l …], [Edit] I did leave a message in the issue I posted above. If someone picks it up it can become an issue. If not, well, then not. 😊
 But at least is it not entirely forgotten.
 @TartanSpartan [I think the Pro1 works reasonably well according to a video comparing it for UT …], https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rgxrJj37xOs
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 @TotalSonic [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rgxrJj37xOs], 🤤
[20:51] <ubptgbot> <Chris B> I have a Pinephone with UBports. Unfortunately I lost my PIN. Is there a way to reset the pin? … I can mount the UBports partitions with another Linux. But chroot and passwd seems nit to work. … I don’t want to reinstall everything.
[20:56] <twiclo> After looking around it looks like the nexus 5 is still the best bet for ubuntu touch. Is that right?
 @twiclo [After looking around it looks like the nexus 5 is still the best bet for ubuntu …], Depends on wht features you want and what area you are in as far as carrier compatibility. Volla, OnePlus One, Sony Xperia X all work well with UT as well.
[21:01] <twiclo> I'm on tmobile's infrastructure I believe
[21:01] <twiclo> I'm looking for the most powerful yet full featured device
[21:04] <twiclo> And how do these phones work with other distros? I'd want to hop around and test them out. Maybe I should just for the next pinephone batch?
 Volla is the most powerful, and full featured, except it does not support sending to exterbal display yet. Calls and 2G work with T-mobile, but to get LTE mobile data I had to go to using dual sim with an extra account with AT&T.
 @twiclo [And how do these phones work with other distros? I'd want to hop around and test …], Pinephone is the best choice for distro hopping. Volla supports UT, Sailfish and Volla OS (de-googled Android)
 @Chris B [I have a Pinephone with UBports. Unfortunately I lost my PIN. Is there a way to …], You could try nulling out the password hash field for the phablet user in the /etc/shadow file, on whatever partition the root is on (I forget off the top of my head).
[21:09] <ubptgbot> <Chris B> Manjaro and Mobian is fine, Sxmo is fun. … Now, wanted to try UBports again because I like Lomiri.
 [Edit] Volla is the most powerful, and full featured, except it does not support sending to externall display yet. Calls and 2G work with T-mobile, but to get LTE mobile data I had to go to using dual sim with an extra account with AT&T.
[21:10] <ubptgbot> <Chris B> @YepYepperson [You could try nulling out the password hash field for the phablet user in the /e …], Thanks, I will try it with every etc/shadow file I find on the partitions
 @Chris B [I have a Pinephone with UBports. Unfortunately I lost my PIN. Is there a way to …], [Edit] You could try nulling out the password hash field for the phablet user in the /etc/shadow file, on whatever partition it's on (I forget off the top of my head, but I think it's in whatever the overlay partition is).
[21:12] <ubptgbot> <Chris B> After nulling, will there be no lockscreen anymore? Otherwise, what PIN should I use after nulling?
 I think it goes back to no password (just the swipe option) if memory serves. Had to do that myself a while back.
[21:13] <twiclo> Are you all talking on matrix and this is just some irc bridge? What's the matrix room?
[21:14] <ubptgbot> <Chris B> Thank you!
 @twiclo [Are you all talking on matrix and this is just some irc bridge? What's the matri …], telegram, though there is also a matrix group
 (the matrix group is not bridged to this one)
[21:15] <ubptgbot> <Chris B> (will report back, but will take some time)
 @Chris B [(will report back, but will take some time)], Found it. It's on the last partition in /userdata/system-data/var/lib/extrausers/shadow.  Just in case something changed, I tried it myself again, and still works, just end up as a no password unlock.
 @Chris B [(will report back, but will take some time)], [Edit] Found it. It's on the last partition in /userdata/system-data/var/lib/extrausers/shadow.  Just in case something changed, I tried it myself again, and still works, just ends up as a no password unlock.
[21:30] <ubptgbot> <Chris B> Wow! Thank you :-)  … That’s not exactly the place, where I would have looked (but I know, that UBports is structured differently to allow safe updates)
 Yeah, the read-only root filesystem makes things interesting.
 s/interesting/harder
 [Edit] s/interesting/harder/
 my opinion
 [Edit] in my opinion
 @Danfro [But at least is it not entirely forgotten.], Thank you ! Maybe it's sufficient for now.
 Hello, good day, I wanted to see if someone could help me, wanting to do the steps to install UT on my phone, I deleted the whole system and all the files by accident and I am having problems and my knowledge is very little besides that I am using google translator I would be grateful if someone could help me . the phone is nexus 6p.
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[22:34] <ubptgbot> <X YZ> @Omaranr [Hello, good day, I wanted to see if someone could help me, wanting to do the ste …], Hi Omar, … it seems your device is supported by the official installer, which should make things really easy. … Please find the details at … https://devices.ubuntu-touch.io/device/angler/ … Welcome to the UT community. 😃👍
 @just_carlod [s/interesting/harder/], nah it is interesting because somethings are a tad harder #takeonthechallenge xD
 @TotalSonic [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rgxrJj37xOs], Thanks. That gives a pretty good idea of the situation. Looks good to me.
[22:52] <ubptgbot> <Chris B> @YepYepperson [Found it. It's on the last partition in /userdata/system-data/var/lib/extrausers …], I confirm: after removing the hashed password in shadow under underdata... and (re-) booting, I can use the phone without prompt for a Pin now. Moreover, wrt shell it feels much under Lorimi than under Phosh.
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/fZA7L9Va.gif
 (Document) https://irc.ubports.com/mURwiSbp.pdf
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 I have Xiaomi Redmi Note 9 Pro, how to install Ubuntu Touch?
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[23:50] <ubptgbot> <Andrew B> Looking to use Ubuntu touch os on galaxy s21 any tips or tricks I should know? And any idea when the phone hits Australian shores??