| lotuspsychje | good morning | 02:58 |
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| marcoagpinto | lotuspsychje: morning | 03:23 |
| marcoagpinto | 3am here | 03:23 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 03:23 |
| marcoagpinto | I am working on my thesis | 03:23 |
| sarnold | woo :) fun | 03:23 |
| lotuspsychje | with a cola? :p | 03:24 |
| marcoagpinto | I am a lazy arse... I was trying to work on this part last week but the PDF I found on Internet with the informations isn't text but images, so I can't search for keywords | 03:24 |
| marcoagpinto | this gives a ton of extra work | 03:24 |
| marcoagpinto | yes, with cola | 03:24 |
| marcoagpinto | I won't risk opening the PDF with Word 365 as it may contain virus | 03:25 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 03:25 |
| marcoagpinto | it is from the US military | 03:26 |
| marcoagpinto | in 2012 in the masters I went to the military academy to copy my PowerPoint for the exam and my pen drive got infected with a virus which no antivirus found | 03:26 |
| marcoagpinto | only after I inserted the pen drive in Ubuntu is when I saw hidden files | 03:27 |
| sarnold | marcoagpinto: have you tried https://github.com/manisandro/gImageReader or similar tools? | 03:27 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh | 03:27 |
| lotuspsychje | you exchange data with the military? | 03:27 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 03:27 |
| lotuspsychje | got fancy friends marcoagpinto | 03:27 |
| marcoagpinto | lotuspsychje: I studied in the military academy | 03:27 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 03:27 |
| lotuspsychje | wow wow | 03:27 |
| lotuspsychje | no cola jokes from me here | 03:27 |
| marcoagpinto | https://marcoagpinto.com/me_militarymasters.html | 03:28 |
| sarnold | lol the can of coke | 03:29 |
| marcoagpinto | yes, a gift | 03:29 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 03:29 |
| marcoagpinto | I was forbidden to drink cola at the academy, but I was offered one after the exam | 03:29 |
| lotuspsychje | haha | 03:30 |
| sarnold | cool :D | 03:31 |
| marcoagpinto | damn militaries have virus no software can detect | 03:35 |
| marcoagpinto | :) | 03:35 |
| marcoagpinto | it is always dangerous | 03:35 |
| ducasse | good morning | 07:41 |
| marcoagpinto | ahhhh... back from some sleep | 09:40 |
| === lotuspsychje_ is now known as lotuspsychje | ||
| lotuspsychje | ogra: just tested out snapd purge from our previous discuss, works like a charm without issues | 14:51 |
| ogra | indeed 🙂 | 14:51 |
| lotuspsychje | unloads all the related snap loops and snap store and done | 14:51 |
| lotuspsychje | tnx for the hint! | 14:52 |
| Maik | lotuspsychje: consuming too much memory? | 15:06 |
| lotuspsychje | Maik: no, it was a test for myself after a conversation with ogra | 15:06 |
| Maik | ah ok | 15:07 |
| lotuspsychje | i always thought snapd removed essential gnome base parts aswell, wich it did not | 15:07 |
| Maik | indeed ;) | 15:07 |
| lotuspsychje | i dont mind snapd by default, but handy to know it can be a choice afterall | 15:08 |
| imrjd | users should have the choice to install either from a deb based package or snap | 15:56 |
| lotuspsychje | imrjd: at ubuntu setup you mean? | 15:57 |
| imrjd | from app store | 15:58 |
| lotuspsychje | imrjd: there's snap-store vs gnome-sofware | 16:00 |
| imrjd | if Pop-os can do it why not Ubuntu | 16:00 |
| lotuspsychje | how does popOs handle it? | 16:01 |
| oerheks | interesting, does pop os offer all snap packages as deb? no. | 16:02 |
| oerheks | all latest version as deb? no. | 16:02 |
| imrjd | no, we can select if we want to install as a deb or a snap | 16:02 |
| imrjd | in ubuntu the source is only snap | 16:02 |
| oerheks | so.... does pop os offer all snap packages as deb? | 16:03 |
| imrjd | yes | 16:03 |
| imrjd | i had Pop-os for a while | 16:03 |
| oerheks | no, it does not. | 16:03 |
| imrjd | then? | 16:06 |
| oerheks | i think you mix up with flatpak | 16:06 |
| leftyfb | imrjd: since popOS is derived from Ubuntu, what you are saying makes no sense. If a package is only available as a snap ubuntu and there's no .deb package, then PopOS does not have a .deb available | 16:06 |
| leftyfb | imrjd: can you name 1 example of where PopOS has a .deb available for a package where Ubuntu only has a snap and no .deb? | 16:07 |
| oerheks | skype.deb? | 16:07 |
| leftyfb | I don't know that I would accept skype as an example. skype.com has them available there. If PopOS has it as well, they are just copying it from there. Also http://apt.pop-os.org/proprietary/pool/focal/main/binary-amd64/s/ I don't see skype listed there | 16:10 |
| leftyfb | imrjd: can you name 1 example of where PopOS has a .deb available for a package where Ubuntu only has a snap and no .deb? | 16:11 |
| oerheks | sublime text? | 16:12 |
| leftyfb | oerheks: are you asking or giving examples? | 16:12 |
| oerheks | as example | 16:12 |
| imrjd | Spotify | 16:12 |
| leftyfb | imrjd: I'm pretty sure PopOS is just copying the .deb from spotify's website and hosting it. They do not build it themselves. | 16:14 |
| imrjd | its available for installation | 16:14 |
| imrjd | you can check it out in a VM | 16:18 |
| imrjd | Pop-Os | 16:18 |
| imrjd | only reason i am ubuntu is most apps and hardware have good chance to work and supported | 16:19 |
| imrjd | that is why i was cribing about a deb package for spotify | 16:21 |
| imrjd | i want to avoid snaps as much as i can | 16:22 |
| oerheks | i want to avoid binairy blobs :-D | 16:23 |
| imrjd | snap doesn't have binary blobs | 16:24 |
| imrjd | In Pop-os when you go to app store which is based on elementary, you can select to install a package as a deb | 16:25 |
| oerheks | firefox in ubuntu-software, gives 2 instances, deb and snap | 16:27 |
| oerheks | just that silly spotify-client is available as snap only | 16:27 |
| imrjd | ubuntu just wants to shove snaps to us | 16:30 |
| imrjd | in ubuntu store there are two firefox, one in deb format and one in snap | 16:30 |
| oerheks | i would use the firefox snap if i want the newest next version | 16:31 |
| imrjd | wouldn't apt update it also? | 16:32 |
| oerheks | apt could, but snap have their own mechanism to check | 16:32 |
| imrjd | brb | 16:33 |
| sarnold | heads up, the new grub2 updates are a significant change from the past https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/grub2-secureboot-bypass-2021-and-one-grub/21200 -- we're not going to release these immediately, we're going to go through the -proposed process, if you've got time and inclination to test these out, please provide feedback on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2-unsigned/+bug/1917509 | 20:00 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1917509 in grub2-unsigned (Ubuntu) "Call for testing: grub2 security updates" [Undecided,New] | 20:01 |
| jeremy31 | Anybody know what program to use to extract a windows exe file that file roller won't handle? | 22:36 |
| daftykins | is it a self extractor? | 22:37 |
| daftykins | if you could pop it somewhere online i don't mind taking a stab | 22:38 |
| jeremy31 | Not sure, it is for a wireless driver | 22:38 |
| jeremy31 | It is the first one at https://www.totolink.net/home/menu/detail/menu_listtpl/download/id/128/ids/36.html | 22:39 |
| jeremy31 | The linux driver is for Ralink but the device has a Realtek USB ID | 22:40 |
| daftykins | hrmm the top V3 link is giving me a zip | 22:40 |
| jeremy31 | daftykins: A exe packed in a zip | 22:40 |
| daftykins | gotcha, judged too quick xD | 22:40 |
| jeremy31 | I thought it would be easy when I saw the zip file | 22:41 |
| daftykins | just having a play with it, 7-zip had no idea what to do which is rare | 22:43 |
| jeremy31 | I think I tried that and innoextract | 22:44 |
| daftykins | ah ha got it | 22:47 |
| daftykins | one mo | 22:47 |
| daftykins | ok if i PM to share the link? don't want it in public logs :D | 22:48 |
| jeremy31 | daftykins: try a PM now | 22:49 |
| sarnold | binwalk may know how to cope | 23:07 |
| daftykins | it was one of those evil installshield wrappers where you can't even view the contents of the .cab that sneakily unzips to %temp% upon run | 23:09 |
| daftykins | jeremy31: this something you just bought? | 23:10 |
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