[03:11] <maggotbrain> So I saw the request for assistance from bluesabre on the request for help with the "docs-refresh branch on the Xubuntu GitHub"
[03:12] <maggotbrain> Are there any clear instructions on getting those docs moved from the google drive location into the repos?
[04:28] <jphilipz> maggotbrain: are you familiar with the dockbook format?
[04:31] <maggotbrain> I;ve had to deal with it a few times.
[04:41] <maggotbrain> Do you have a process or is this involve a bunch on manual munging?
[04:58] <maggotbrain> Do you actually have a process in place to ingest these documents? Or, are what you _actually_ asking for is for someone to create an ingestion  process for you?
[05:04] <jphilipz> maggotbrain: we have google docs, we want moved to dockbook. i presume it would need to be done manually.
[05:06] <maggotbrain> Again, are there any guidelines? How do you want them moved? What are the step that you expect to occur?
[05:06] <jphilipz> bluesabre: is the repo for the pushing of the dockbook work available and is it activate on transfix
[05:07] <jphilipz> maggotbrain: bluesabre is the best to ask, as i don't have a clue
[05:08] <maggotbrain> Someone downloads the google docs, runs some freakin' magic docbook commands and does what???....
[05:12] <maggotbrain> I'm obviously a bit exasperated; but, if yoone is calling for volunteers and has no idea how to instruct a volunteer to approach the task there is a problem
[05:12] <maggotbrain> I would love to help but the scope is entirely unclear
[05:31] <maggotbrain> The request for volunteers is kinda exasperating, to be honest.
[10:44] <bluesabre> maggotbrain, unfortunately, it's a very manual process. Docbook is an XML format with strict validation. You can see where I moved one of the docs to docbook here: https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-docs/commit/b37e641b5ef4a3a4f196b086912e59b68be4aefe and where I fixed the validation and got the tests to pass here: https://github.com/Xubuntu/xubuntu-docs/commit/5a69bf24b8e8999aa10f932dd942d0f3e4d2bb55
[10:44] <ubot3> Commit b37e641 in Xubuntu/xubuntu-docs "Update what-is-xubuntu.xml"
[10:44] <ubot3> Commit 5a69bf2 in Xubuntu/xubuntu-docs "Fix DTD validation"
[10:44] <bluesabre> The goal is to get these updated docs into that docs-refresh branch with passing validation: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10nsLPokttFjG9g4x4mLBYNkTyO0izy5H
[10:45] <bluesabre> Docbook is not an unknown format, so I know there are some folks in the community with the background to do this effectively, but they're seemingly missing
[10:47] <bluesabre> Part of the complication is that the new docs make use of various figures and images, which makes it even harder getting the strict validation to pass
[10:53] <bluesabre> I guess the easiest way forward would be to just dump the text and images in the most basic format into the branch and let others hack on fixing the formatting.
[10:56] <JackFrost> So when the topic of policykit agent came up, I looked a bit into things.  I wonder if the mate tool might serve us better, since the one we use hasn't had a release since 2012...
[11:00] <bluesabre> Yeah, that seems reasonable to me.
[11:08] <JackFrost> There's of course https://sources.debian.org/src/mate-polkit/1.24.0-2/src/polkit-mate-authentication-agent-1.desktop.in.in/#L8
[11:29] <bluesabre> If we want to go that route, a ping to Wimpress might get Xfce added to it :)
[11:32] <JackFrost> I guess I can replace my polkit agent and see how it works.
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[20:53] <maggotbrain> bluesabre: thanks for details. I will take a look at your work and see if it is something that I can commit time to assisting with. Thanks!
[23:49] <kiwi_5>  hello
[23:50] <kiwi_5> How can I help with the documentation?
[23:52] <JackFrost> It's pretty much taking it from some doc and converting it to docbook's XML right now.