 If UEFI secure boot is enabled, how do drivers like i915 get loaded? It appears the linux-modules-extra contains unsigned modules which aren't allowed to load under Lockdown mode. Does something turn off Lockdown mode on desktop systems?
 No, it's much more simple. You just need to get the correct version of shim-signed. whoops.
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[18:32] <wxl> @teward001 do you know of some way we could add a warning to the new user registration page on phab that accounts will not be approved without that user actually emailing lubuntu councl to request it? that might do a good job of killing spam. i'm inclined to destroy any non-active users
[18:32] <wxl> (as well)
[18:32] <wxl> and just get really austere about who we accept
[18:39] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: sigh. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calamares/+bug/1917724
[18:40] <kc2bez[m]> <wxl "kc2bez: sigh. https://bugs.launc"> I saw it. I don't have an answer.
[18:41] <wxl> kc2bez[m]: i left a note for chris to explore further and what we may have to do to resolve it if my fears are true
[18:55] <kc2bez[m]> I was able to create a reiserfs partition from the live iso using KDEpartition manager so there is that anyway.
[18:58] <kc2bez[m]> I don't have too much time to mess with it right now but I don't think it is related to the changes we made. It needs further investigation though.
[18:59] <wxl> well that puts me at ease
[18:59] <kc2bez[m]> same here, I was nervous too.
[19:00] <wxl> i guess too that if we're having problems only with xfs/reiser/btrfs i'm not as worried
[19:01] <kc2bez[m]> I agree with that as well. I'd like them to work properly but they are outside the normal scope a little bit.
[19:02] <wxl> a bit yeah. i mean we should ensure they are supported but i don't think we should prioritize those at the exclusion of anything else
[19:03] <kc2bez[m]> yup, understood.
 running a test on xfs .. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> i guess too that if we're having problems only with xfs/reiser/btrfs i'm not as worried)
[20:17] <kgiii> I just did an install on reiserfs and it went off without a hitch. I'm doing a btrfs install as I type this.
 Great..xfs worked just fine.. (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <kgiii> I just did an install on reiserfs and it went off without a hitch. I'm doing a btrfs install as I type this.)
[20:19] <kgiii> I've got a few spare hours today. (I've been a little busy lately.) So, I'll test a basic btrfs install.
 no, there's no way to handle that.  The way to handle that is to have people email the Council requesting an account and justification as to why (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> @teward001 do you know of some way we could add a warning to the new user registration page on phab that accounts will not be approved without that user actually emailing lubuntu councl to request it? that might do a good job of killing spam. i'm inclined t
 and then we just create it ourselves (which IS an option in Phab I believe)
 there is a way to handle it, but not as suggested :P
[20:23] <wxl> thanks @leokolb and kgiii that puts my mind at ease
[20:24] <wxl> @teward001 i'm confused. there is a solution or no?
[20:26] <kgiii> The btrfs install was fine.
 Can also confirm btrfs - no problem
 there is, but the inverse of what you're suggesting (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> @teward001 i'm confused. there is a solution or no?)
 i.e. people have to email -council with their request
 then we manually make and send
 s/send/provide accounts/
 there's no mechanism in Phab to display a warning after registration to contact -council for activation
 but we can disable user registration entirely and let admins handle creation of accounts
[20:36] <wxl> what about before registration? on the page itself?
[20:37] <wxl> or maybe we could redirect the registration link at a page describing the process?
 no mechanism currently for either of those
 unless you want ot rewrite Phab
 #NotIt
 (back in a bit, phone call for FT job)
[20:44] <wxl> hell.
[20:45] <wxl> i guess we can just shut them off. most folks aren't going to want/need an account. they'll get desperate and ask if they really do
[20:53] <kgiii> There's no way to simply add text to the registration page?  Usually you can find the registration (at like registration.php) and add HTML to it. It may get written over when the software updates, but it's normally pretty easy with the scripts I've used, like WordPress or SMF. 
[21:01] <kc2bez> Heyo folks.
[21:01] <kc2bez> !standup
[21:02] <kgiii> I am here.
[21:02] <lynorian> here
 *shoves a flashbang into kc2bez's hands*
[21:03]  * kc2bez tosses it to wxl quickly
 it's not a live one it's a dummy.
[21:03] <wxl> oh hey
 the real one's already been tossed into the room :)    *BOOM*
 What?
 XD
[21:04] <The_LoudSpeaker> o/
[21:04] <guiverc> somewhat present..
 @N0um3n0 what? i'm chaotic, it's well known :)
 anyways who's first?
[21:04] <kgiii> Same as always. I haven't had a ton of time, but I've still been able to test and do some support. I'm continuing to read a ton and am still playing catch-up. I'll get there. I'll go ahead and thank everyone for their contributions now and I'll also say you're welcome for mine. (That is all.)
 o/
[21:04] <kc2bez> kgiii: thanks for that
[21:05] <kc2bez> lynorian: is next
[21:06] <lynorian> I added lock and unlock things for qterminal as that was not clear and also commented on a bug for drop down terminal I don't have the number handy
 It was for the beginning of the meeting: p, but i know XD (re @teward001: @N0um3n0 what? i'm chaotic, it's well known :))
[21:06] <lynorian> I aslo did a few edits on qterminal for capitilization and also explained autohide of drop down
[21:07] <lynorian> I also edited lxqt-panel some with clarifying things for cpu usage applet and reordered things to make the volume applet clearer
[21:08] <lynorian> that is all I got done
[21:08] <kc2bez> Thanks for all of that lyn. It is fantastic as always.
[21:08] <kc2bez> @teward001 over to you
[21:12] <kc2bez> Captain chaos must have stepped away. We can circle back later.
[21:12] <kc2bez> wxl was next
[21:13] <wxl> k
[21:13] <wxl> paste https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/bnHvnVMPhk/
[21:13] <wxl> note line 28
[21:14] <wxl> i'm also working on swapping ark for lxqt-archiver
[21:14] <kc2bez> I read that, congrats!
[21:14] <kgiii> Congrats!
[21:14] <wxl> the end result of that should be that lubuntu-meta is fixed
[21:14] <kc2bez> cool
[21:14] <wxl> right now it looks pretty broken on phab because it's set to a default branch it doesn't have
[21:15] <kc2bez> I changed it to Groovy
[21:15] <wxl> i don't have a bug to associate with that but i don't think anyone's going to police our uploads with lubuntu packages
[21:15] <wxl> oh well that helps :)
[21:15] <kc2bez> stop gap measure for now
[21:16] <kc2bez> Thanks wxl!
[21:16] <wxl> yep
[21:16] <kc2bez> @N0um3n0 is next
 doing support as usual.
[21:16] <lynorian> ok when lxqt-archiver gets done I would want to be pinged because it will need documentation 
[21:17] <guiverc> congratulations wxl !
[21:17] <kc2bez> archiver is in hirsute now, just not default
[21:17] <wxl> lynorian: i'll try to get this done tonight so it's in tomorrow's iso
 Nothing special
[21:17] <kc2bez> Thanks @N0um3n0 support is pretty special
[21:17] <wxl> um @N0um3n0 you are too modest
[21:17] <wxl> you literally speak like a billion different languages
[21:18] <kc2bez> I can barely speak 1
 i'm in the middle of work chaos so :P
[21:18] <kc2bez> we skipped you
 i know :)
 (call on me last)
[21:18] <kc2bez> The_LoudSpeaker over to you
[21:19] <wxl> ok it's your turn @teward001 XD
[21:19] <wxl> oh just kidding
 *shoves the flashbang into wxl's hands this time*
 It is the help of the translator, without it I am nothing xD (re @lubuntu_bot: (irc) <wxl> um @N0um3n0 you are too modest)
[21:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> here.
[21:19] <The_LoudSpeaker> hve nothing much to say.
[21:19] <kc2bez> cool, thanks for being here :P
[21:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> if all looks good then someone please close that task. 
[21:20] <kc2bez> Which one?
[21:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> kc2bez: thanks! :) thank you everyone else too.
[21:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> kc2bez: the deal with merges one
[21:20] <kc2bez> oh, sure thing.
[21:20] <kc2bez> T185
[21:20] <The_LoudSpeaker> yeah that.
[21:20] <kc2bez> okie dokie
[21:21] <kc2bez> Thanks The_LoudSpeaker
[21:21] <kc2bez> guiverc: is next
[21:22] <guiverc> sorry, nothing to really say.   support, a little testing, wiki cleanup (t181 i think)
[21:23] <kc2bez> Thanks guiverc appreciate the help!
[21:23] <kc2bez> @Leokolb over to you
 Tested Hirsute dailies  - tests of T83 lxqt-archiver-
 tests of other flavors re bugs 1916356 (EFI install failure) 1917292(grub packaging error)
 New bugs 1917590 file integrity check install/boot not functional
 done and thanks all !
[21:24] <kc2bez> Thanks @Leokolb !
[21:24] <kc2bez> My list isn't too long.
[21:24] <kc2bez> * Uploads:
[21:24] <kc2bez>     * Uploaded new Calamares 3.2.37 to build against patched kpmcore
[21:24] <kc2bez>     * Uploaded calamares settings to adjust Log level
[21:25] <kc2bez> * Tasks:
[21:25] <kc2bez>     * Commented on https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83
[21:25] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [Medium, Open] fix archiver: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83
[21:25] <kc2bez> * Notes:
[21:25] <kc2bez>     * Closed out LC election. https://civs.cs.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/results.pl?id=E_26e155fd038d44a9
[21:25] <kc2bez>     * Updated LP and phab re: election
[21:25] <kc2bez>     * Added current developers to https://phab.lubuntu.me/w/contributors/
[21:25] <kc2bez>     * Closed Artwork contest. Still need to work with the "selection committee" to chose which ones go where and then upload.
[21:26] <kc2bez> That is it from me.
[21:26] <kc2bez> @teward001 are you back?
[21:28] <kc2bez> Thanks everyone!
[21:28] <kgiii> You can edit "/src/applications/auth/controller/PhabricatorAuthRegisterController.php" to add any registration information text you want -- such as telling them to email for admin approval.
[21:28] <wxl> thanks ya'll
[21:31] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rSEED2e52d833afd2: swap ark for lxqt-archiver] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rSEED2e52d833afd2
[21:32] <guiverc> thank you wxl, kc2bez lynorian kgiii @leokolb @N0um3n0 @teward001
 Thanks to all the team!!!
 kc2bez: constantly in/out
 nothing really to report on my side though
[21:45] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks for being here @teward001
[21:45] <wxl> and on the council
 you're welcome :)
 and thanks wxl, i'm glad to be on the council to provide more insight and effort to make Lubuntu better.
 UNRELATED:
 I"m going to need to spin up space for the rpi400 image to land.
 i'm about ready to produce rpi400 images that can be direct-to-sdcard imaged and made available
 i need to get an rpi3 and an rpi4 though here for those cases, but that's future :)
[21:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMETAd86d737a8a75: reconfigured for hirsute] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMETAd86d737a8a75
[21:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMETA96d81cecda11: added check for germinate] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMETA96d81cecda11
[21:49] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rMETAeec7b16a3025: welcome to hirsute!] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rMETAeec7b16a3025
[21:53] <wxl> @lynorian i just uploaded lubuntu-meta with the change to lxqt-archiver
[21:53] <wxl> i should probably follow that with a change to lubuntu-default-settings eh
[21:54] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T83: fix archiver] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T83#4406
[22:03] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T201: Provide a sidebar page for "How to Contribute" for Phab] teward (Thomas Ward) just created this task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T201
[22:09] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [rDEFAULTSETTINGS53a937ef455f: swap ark for lxqt-archiver.] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) committed: https://phab.lubuntu.me/rDEFAULTSETTINGS53a937ef455f
[22:11] <wxl> @lynorian that's the default settings fix so next iso should be good to go
[22:12] <wxl> testers please check to make sure that lxqt-archiver integration is functioning properly in pcmanfm-qt and also check to ensure that lxqt-archiver is the default application opening any archive filetype
[22:13] <wxl> at the commit page under the mimeapps.list section the filetypes that should work
[22:14] <wxl> tl;dr ar, arj, bzip, tar, gzip, jar, lha, lhz, lzop, rar, rpm, tar, war, zip, zoo
[22:15] <wxl> ^ @leokolb @guiverc @kgiii
[22:16] <guiverc> ack wxl 
[22:17] <wxl> @guiverc: btw we already did confirm that all of the 0.16 lxqt packages are now in the iso, right? so we can close T185? 
[22:18] <guiverc> i doubt I have all those types of (archive) files..   
[22:18] <wxl> understood. could probably find them online
[22:18] <guiverc> wxl, I'll update my daily & check later today
[22:18] <guiverc> ^ was on t185/0.16
[22:19] <kgiii> In today's build it is still ark.
[22:19] <guiverc> yeah too on online... but I prefer 'known' good files rather than randos off web
[22:20] <wxl> kgiii: i mean i made this change like minutes ago XD
[22:20] <wxl> guiverc: i mean we could make some
[22:21] -lugito:#lubuntu-devel- [T185: deal with merges] wxl (Walter Lapchynski) commented on the task: https://phab.lubuntu.me/T185#4419
[22:21] <guiverc> wxl, leave it with us (testers)... we'll blab on phab with testing performed, you can comment if something is missed etc
[22:22] <kgiii> I have to go eat dinner, but changing the default to lxqt-archiver, making a foo.txt file, and using the right click > compress does nothing. If I have to download a new image, it'll have to wait until after dinner.
[22:22] <guiverc> kgiii, I'd wait till it's on the ISO, next daily maybe, if not ISO after that.
[22:23]  * guiverc my plan anyway
[22:23] <kgiii> That works. I'll grab some working compressed files in the interim.
[23:13] <kc2bez[m]> wxl: have you seen https://github.com/lxqt/lxqt/issues/1931
 kpmcore 20.12.3 with the patch included is now in hirsute
[23:17] <kc2bez[m]> Nice! Thanks for the update @RikMills
[23:17] <kc2bez[m]> I will probably need to fire off a no change rebuild unless someone did that. 
[23:18] <kc2bez[m]> For Calamares ^
 the only extra patch in the new release is this: https://invent.kde.org/system/kpmcore/-/commit/2d397bb2d2eb28adc147d267fa79ed10057e7868
 so I doubt a rebuild is required
 I guess one would do no harm though
[23:24] <kc2bez[m]> No need if it is unnecessary I guess. I wasn't sure what else came along with it. 
[23:24] <kc2bez[m]> We can run it through some paces first. 
[23:25] <kc2bez[m]> Thanks for the information
 better safe than sorry :)
 yeah a no change rebuild is usually not a problem from a builds perspective.  just make sure it's a no change rebuild (like +b1 or whatever it is for a no change rebuild suffix is, I usually don't have to run no change rebuilds)
 A no-change rebuild here would be 3.2.37-0ubuntu2, as we have 3.2.37-0ubuntu1 (re @teward001: yeah a no change rebuild is usually not a problem from a builds perspective.  just make sure it's a no change rebuild (like +b1 or whatever it is for a no change rebuild suffix is, I usually don't have to run no change rebuilds))
 we keep the 'ubuntu' if we have it
 yup
 i don't do NCRBs unless I have to :)
 No one does! :P
 and usually if i'm doing a ncrb on a package i control / work on there's probably minor bugs that i can include fixes for :)
 try and find SOMETHING to include in there xD